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donnay
11-13-2013, 10:39 PM
Judge to Soldier: “Your time in Iraq makes you a threat to society…”

Stress of combat left soldier a nervous wreck

Adan Salazar
Infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com/judge-deems-soldier-threat-to-society-after-tours-of-duty-in-iraq/)
November 13, 2013

A former soldier who conducted two tours of duty in Iraq gave a Tedx talk last month from prison where he described how the army taught him to harness an uncontrollable rage and how it ultimately led him to become, what one judge termed, a “threat to society.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6AYmzunPlQ

In an October video posted of a TEDx correctional facility talk, Army veteran Andrew “Sarge” Chambers gave a heartfelt account of his difficult transition to civilian life after the events of 9/11 convinced to march to war.

Chambers, who is from Pickerington, Ohio, depicted one memory in which he awoke to a chaotic battle scene and gunfire, and remembered being astonished to hear someone laughing through it.

“In the middle of all this chaos, I could hear somebody laughing and I thought to myself, ‘Who could be laughing at a time like this?’ and then I realized it was me laughing,” Chambers said. “I felt like I was finally losing control of that rage they taught me to harness.”

Following his first tour, Chambers says the Army asked for volunteers to stay for an additional length of time, for which he says he volunteered as he was not married and did not have children.

Chambers recalled losing seven fellow soldiers during his second tour, in which he and others would find and neutralize roadside IEDs.

He says when he returned to the United States, the stress of combat left him on edge.

“I was paranoid. I carried a pistol on me at all times. I assessed the threat level of every person or place I came in contact with,” he stated. “Driving through my family’s neighborhood, I drove in the middle of the street in fear that the side of the road was gonna blow up and kill me.”

Chambers recollected seeking help from the Veterans Administration and being prescribed a sleep aid, but says the medication did little to quell his inner rage.

Then one night, an argument erupted over a girl. “Someone pulled out a knife and I snapped.”

“I pulled out my pistol. The prosecutor said I moved through the room in a tactical manner, clearing the room, laid everybody on the ground I took the knife from him and I began beating him.”

The army vet was charged with attempted murder, as well as other charges. “When I went in for sentencing, my judge told me, “Mr. Chambers, your service is a double-edged sword. Your time in Iraq makes you a threat to society and I have a civil obligation to lock you up. I received ten years and here I am today.”

The veteran’s story shines light on how many enlistees consider suicide as an alternative to coping with pent-up rage. It also shows how the establishment casts the mental health needs of returning veterans by the wayside, and deems them threats once their honed warrior instincts surface.

Chambers says he hopes his story brings insight to the mindset of military veterans, and urges people to “Find a veteran and listen to his story. A lot of us just need someone to talk to.”

The speech was given as part of a TEDx correctional facility series, which showcases stories about “incarceration and reintegration.”

According to the video’s YouTube description, parts of Chambers’ speech will be included in the documentary “Operation Resurrection: The Warrior Returns.”

Scrapmo
11-13-2013, 10:49 PM
“I was paranoid. I carried a pistol on me at all times. I assessed the threat level of every person or place I came in contact with,” he stated. “Driving through my family’s neighborhood, I drove in the middle of the street in fear that the side of the road was gonna blow up and kill me.”

Should have become a cop.

Christian Liberty
11-13-2013, 11:08 PM
The State screws people over time and time again.

I wonder how many apologists (Not here) will say this man's suffering was "Worth it." He should confine any rage he has to those sick people.

donnay
11-13-2013, 11:33 PM
Yes this is how they support the troops--give them sleeping pills and tell them to come back in six months. :mad:

Since we are told he went over there to fight for freedom, he has none. And when he gets out of jail he also looses his second amendment right.

pcosmar
11-13-2013, 11:38 PM
Wait a minute,,
He defended a woman from a knife wielding assailant..

and he is a threat to society.

@ bizzaro world

donnay
11-14-2013, 12:36 AM
Wait a minute,,
He defended a woman from a knife wielding assailant..

and he is a threat to society.

@ bizzaro world

Yeah sad isn't it?

enhanced_deficit
11-14-2013, 12:56 AM
Judge to Soldier: “Your time in Iraq makes you a threat to society…”

Stress of combat left soldier a nervous wreck

Adan Salazar
Infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com/judge-deems-soldier-threat-to-society-after-tours-of-duty-in-iraq/)
November 13, 2013

A former soldier who conducted two tours of duty in Iraq gave a Tedx talk last month from prison where he described how the army taught him to harness an uncontrollable rage and how it ultimately led him to become, what one judge termed, a “threat to society.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6AYmzunPlQ

In an October video posted of a TEDx correctional facility talk, Army veteran Andrew “Sarge” Chambers gave a heartfelt account of his difficult transition to civilian life after the events of 9/11 convinced to march to war.

Chambers, who is from Pickerington, Ohio, depicted one memory in which he awoke to a chaotic battle scene and gunfire, and remembered being astonished to hear someone laughing through it.

“In the middle of all this chaos, I could hear somebody laughing and I thought to myself, ‘Who could be laughing at a time like this?’ and then I realized it was me laughing,” Chambers said. “I felt like I was finally losing control of that rage they taught me to harness.”

Following his first tour, Chambers says the Army asked for volunteers to stay for an additional length of time, for which he says he volunteered as he was not married and did not have children.

Chambers recalled losing seven fellow soldiers during his second tour, in which he and others would find and neutralize roadside IEDs.

He says when he returned to the United States, the stress of combat left him on edge.

“I was paranoid. I carried a pistol on me at all times. I assessed the threat level of every person or place I came in contact with,” he stated. “Driving through my family’s neighborhood, I drove in the middle of the street in fear that the side of the road was gonna blow up and kill me.”

Chambers recollected seeking help from the Veterans Administration and being prescribed a sleep aid, but says the medication did little to quell his inner rage.

Then one night, an argument erupted over a girl. “Someone pulled out a knife and I snapped.”

“I pulled out my pistol. The prosecutor said I moved through the room in a tactical manner, clearing the room, laid everybody on the ground I took the knife from him and I began beating him.”

The army vet was charged with attempted murder, as well as other charges. “When I went in for sentencing, my judge told me, “Mr. Chambers, your service is a double-edged sword. Your time in Iraq makes you a threat to society and I have a civil obligation to lock you up. I received ten years and here I am today.”

The veteran’s story shines light on how many enlistees consider suicide as an alternative to coping with pent-up rage. It also shows how the establishment casts the mental health needs of returning veterans by the wayside, and deems them threats once their honed warrior instincts surface.

Chambers says he hopes his story brings insight to the mindset of military veterans, and urges people to “Find a veteran and listen to his story. A lot of us just need someone to talk to.”

The speech was given as part of a TEDx correctional facility series, which showcases stories about “incarceration and reintegration.”

According to the video’s YouTube description, parts of Chambers’ speech will be included in the documentary “Operation Resurrection: The Warrior Returns.”

Excellent video.

Although US tax payers have tried to apologize for Iraq symbolically by electing son of an african muslim man with popular Iraqi middle name, there is in reality no major shift in foreign policy of supporting occupations/oppressions except minor scaling back due to debt deficits. At some point, Americans have to make a decision if they want to continue foreign interventions of funding occupation of Palestinians/supporting dictators or stop that (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?433114-One-World-Trade-Center-named-tallest-US-building&p=5307732&viewfull=1#post5307732). Untill then, blowbacks like past decades and resulting emotional/physical/financial costs at home are likley to keep piling up. If someone keeps doing the same thing and expects different results, that is defined as insanity.

aGameOfThrones
11-14-2013, 02:18 AM
Then one night, an argument erupted over a girl. “Someone pulled out a knife and I snapped.”

“I pulled out my pistol. The prosecutor said I moved through the room in a tactical manner, clearing the room, laid everybody on the ground I took the knife from him and I began beating him.”

If a cop had done this he would be called a hero and given a parade. 10 years? Really?

Philhelm
11-14-2013, 08:08 AM
I take it that the judge had read the "DHS Report on Rightwing Extremists?"

pcosmar
11-14-2013, 08:24 AM
I take it that the judge had read the "DHS Report on Rightwing Extremists?"

I think you could bet on that safely. :(

donnay
11-14-2013, 08:25 AM
It's clear they are going after veterans like gangbusters. The problem is any vet who has done tours on the front lines sees lots of bad things happen. Then they make it back home alive and cannot deal with the fact they made it home alive. Once they are labeled PTSD, they start losing their rights. I wished some of these guys/gals would take this negative energy and put it to good use and speak to the boys and girls out there that the recruiters are trying to coerce into the military.

belian78
11-14-2013, 08:54 AM
I wished some of these guys/gals would take this negative energy and put it to good use and speak to the boys and girls out there that the recruiters are trying to coerce into the military.
PTSD plus they hate America? Surenly they are a perfect candidate for a drone strike.

cjm
11-14-2013, 10:25 AM
Unless there is oncoming traffic, I drive down the middle of the street in neighborhoods too. I'm not concerned about IEDs, but kids and pets sometimes dart into the street. I guess now I can be profiled with PTSD.

FloralScent
11-14-2013, 10:58 AM
Wait a minute,,
He defended a woman from a knife wielding assailant..

and he is a threat to society.

@ bizzaro world

He should've just double-tapped him in the chest and he could've walked away from this.

aGameOfThrones
11-14-2013, 11:37 AM
What would be the opinion of the judge regarding this POS murderer cop?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?433000-Cop-who-admitted-to-drinking-before-executing-man-CLEARED

Just-us...

enhanced_deficit
11-14-2013, 12:14 PM
I take it that the judge had read the "DHS Report on Rightwing Extremists?"

Not sure if Judge in this case should get sole or even most of blame, imo real culprit here is insane foreign policy that uses such young men as fodder for needless wars. While there maybe double standard in courts between cops and plain veterans with PTSD, he himself seems to be saying he could be danger to others as he brought "war" home with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6AYmzunPlQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=342

Pericles
11-14-2013, 03:19 PM
Wait a minute,,
He defended a woman from a knife wielding assailant..

and he is a threat to society.

@ bizzaro world

Just about at the point where society is not worth defending because it is the enemy.

pcosmar
11-14-2013, 10:19 PM
Not sure if Judge in this case should get sole or even most of blame, imo real culprit here is insane foreign policy that uses such young men as fodder for needless wars. While there maybe double standard in courts between cops and plain veterans with PTSD, he himself seems to be saying he could be danger to others as he brought "war" home with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6AYmzunPlQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=342

He sounds to me like he has gotten some really bad counseling and has bought into the psychobabble.

kcchiefs6465
11-14-2013, 10:28 PM
He sounds to me like he has gotten some really bad counseling and has bought into the psychobabble.
I imagine some of the shit isn't easy to shake. Who knows what he did or saw.

You're probably right though. A laundry list of trial and error drugs.

oyarde
11-15-2013, 12:50 AM
And here I thought it was law school that made people a threat to society .