Town Hall Discovers Vince Vaughn Is Conservative

[angelatc]

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2013/11/09/another-celebrity-comes-out-as-conservative-n1743779

They're totally on top of things over there, aren't they?

[FrankRep]

Welcome to 2011. :-p


Vince Vaughn "Comes Out" and Declares His Conservatism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p23stV9LD0I#t=28)
Vince Vaughn & Ron Paul at LPAC 2011



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p23stV9LD0I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p23stV9LD0I#t=28

[ctiger2]

If he pretty much agrees with Ron he's a libertarian, not a conservative.

[FrankRep]

If he pretty much agrees with Ron he's a libertarian, not a conservative.

Ron Paul says he's a Conservative, in fact, the "Most Conservative."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8FXvqlMCig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8FXvqlMCig



Vince Vaughn is, indeed, a Conservative.


In a telephone interview with Adam Carolla, Hollywood A-lister Vince Vaughn made a strong declaration about his conservative principles. When Carolla asked him very directly, “Do you count yourself a conservative?” Vaughn did not hesitate or stammer, he merely replied, “I do, yeah…I mean I’m very supportive of Ron Paul, but I’ve always been more conservative than not."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/08/huge-movie-star-breaks-rank-with-hollywood-in-revealing-chat-on-individual-rights-the-constitution-and-principles-of-liberty/

[angelatc]

If he pretty much agrees with Ron he's a libertarian, not a conservative.

Well Ron describes himself as conservative, and Vince describes himself as conservative.

[fr33]

This is the in-between election cycle where they discover a famous Ron Paul supporter and claim him as one of their own. Too late bitches. Romney was severely conservative, right?

[FrankRep]

This is the in-between election cycle where they discover a famous Ron Paul supporter and claim him as one of their own. Too late bitches. Romney was severely conservative, right?

This is excellent press for Ron Paul. Not a good idea to attack people/media that positively promote Ron Paul.

[LibertyEagle]

This is the in-between election cycle where they discover a famous Ron Paul supporter and claim him as one of their own. Too late bitches. Romney was severely conservative, right?

Not in the slightest, no.

[enhanced_deficit]

I'm not convinced he is "conservative" by prevalent use of term, US conservatives have been one of the biggest supporters of Iraq and other wars and VV is against these wars from what I had heard before.
If that is factual, then he is more like a Libertarian.

[compromise]

Can't wait till his reality show with Glenn Beck hits: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/12/heres-your-first-chance-to-watch-a-sneak-peek-of-glenn-beck-vince-vaughns-new-reality-show/

[Lucille]

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2013/11/09/another-celebrity-comes-out-as-conservative-n1743779

They're totally on top of things over there, aren't they?

Cutting edge! It came as to a surprise to Breitbart too. Weird. I heard Vince was a conservative during the Bush admin., then a Paulian during the '08 campaign. In '09, Vince was telling everyone to read End the Fed, and then invited Ron and Carol to the Couples Retreat premier. I don't know where those guys have been.

[LibertyEagle]

I'm not convinced he is "conservative" by prevalent use of term, US conservatives have been one of the biggest supporters of Iraq and other wars and VV is against these wars from what I had heard before.
If that is factual, then he is more like a Libertarian.

Is this conservative-bashing day? I'm getting pretty sick and tired of it, personally. This board is not a libertarian board. It is for all lovers of liberty and supporters of Ron and Rand Paul, regardless of label.

You guys better quit this shit, because it's going to run off a whole lot of people from supporting our candidates.

NOTE: This isn't just directed at you ed. Yours was just the most recent one today that I've seen.

[phill4paul]

Cutting edge! It came as to a surprise to Breitbart too. Weird. I heard Vince was a conservative during the Bush admin., then a Paulian during the '08 campaign. In '09, Vince was telling everyone to read End the Fed, and then invited Ron and Carol to the Couples Retreat premier. I don't know where those guys have been.

:eek: I so hope they didn't take him up on the offer. I would have been embarassed for Mrs. Paul.

[Lucille]

:eek: I so hope they didn't take him up on the offer. I would have been embarassed for Mrs. Paul.

They absolutely did go! I'm sure Ron appreciated "The Fed is a pimp" comment during the scene when the credits were rolling, if he stayed that long!

http://cmsimg.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=U0&Dato=20091006&Kategori=CWS05&Lopenr=910060805&Ref=PH&Item=21&Maxw=600&Maxh=500

[heavenlyboy34]

Ron Paul says he's a Conservative, in fact, the "Most Conservative."


Well Ron describes himself as conservative, and Vince describes himself as conservative.
Do I really need to quote RP referring to himself as "libertarian" for you again? Haven't I and others done that enough for you yet? :confused:

[LibertyEagle]

Do I really need to quote RP referring to himself as "libertarian" for you again? Haven't I and others done that enough for you yet? :confused:

Has it dawned on you, EVER, that someone can consider themselves to be BOTH?

[compromise]

Do I really need to quote RP referring to himself as "libertarian" for you again? Haven't I and others done that enough for you yet? :confused:

Rand Paul is not a Libertarian, he's a libertarian Republican, which is even better.

[mad cow]

Do I really need to quote RP referring to himself as "libertarian" for you again? Haven't I and others done that enough for you yet? :confused:

Do I really have to point out again that Ron Paul's definition of libertarian is "Strict Constitutionalist"?

[Feeding the Abscess]

:eek: I so hope they didn't take him up on the offer. I would have been embarassed for Mrs. Paul.

I'm sure Ron and Carol aren't so stiff that they can't have a laugh at some crude humor.

[phill4paul]

I'm sure Ron and Carol aren't so stiff that they can't have a laugh at some crude humor.

I wouldn't think so. But when I think of Carol I think of my mother and would have felt uncomfortable during the yoga scene. I realize that that is just my personal hang up. Carol might have been fine with it.

[Feeding the Abscess]

Do I really have to point out again that Ron Paul's definition of libertarian is "Strict Constitutionalist"?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55d6nAJoqlo

7:45, why Ron Paul uses the constitution as an argument. He's literally telling a conference of Austrians that he's a true believer, and that he uses the constitution as an argument because people will typically give him a pass if he uses that instead of economic or moral arguments for voting against flood insurance and other stuff.

[mad cow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55d6nAJoqlo

7:45, why Ron Paul uses the constitution as an argument. He's literally telling a conference of Austrians that he's a true believer, and that he uses the constitution as an argument because people will typically give him a pass if he uses that instead of economic or moral arguments for voting against flood insurance and other stuff.


Feeding the Abscess:
Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
I call myself a libertarian
Originally Posted by Ron Paul
...And if anybody wants to know what that is,it is a strict Constitutionalist.
There,I just wanted to finish his quote from tonight for you.
I'm sure it was just an oversight that you didn't finish his quote yourself.

The quote in question comes up at 6:19 in Eduardo's Tube,for anyone interested.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?432330-Video-added-LIVE-from-Richmond-Ken-Cuccinelli-amp-Ron-Paul-Tonight-11-4-8-30pm&p=5294337#post5294337

Way back in the mists of time(6 days ago!!1!!),you and I had this same discussion.Now was Ron Paul lying through his teeth or not when he gave that definition of a libertarian?

[angelatc]

I wouldn't think so. But when I think of Carol I think of my mother and would have felt uncomfortable during the yoga scene. I realize that that is just my personal hang up. Carol might have been fine with it.

Carol is not his mother. Carol is his wife.

[Feeding the Abscess]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?432330-Video-added-LIVE-from-Richmond-Ken-Cuccinelli-amp-Ron-Paul-Tonight-11-4-8-30pm&p=5294337#post5294337

Way back in the mists of time(6 days ago!!1!!),you and I had this same discussion.Now was Ron Paul lying through his teeth or not when he gave that definition of a libertarian?

I just posted a video that, in his own words, details why he uses the constitution as an argument.

Should I post the video where he answers, after being asked how he feels about those who want to go beyond the constitution, that he agrees with that stance, and even says that that is what his goal is?

[phill4paul]

Carol is not his mother. Carol is his wife.

Yes. I understand that. I said that when I think of her I think of my mother.

[angelatc]

I hear dog whistles.

[angelatc]

Yes. I understand that. I said that when I think of her I think of my mother.

I thought you meant you would feel awkward watching the yoga scene with your mother.

[phill4paul]

I hear dog whistles.

???

[phill4paul]

I thought you meant you would feel awkward watching the yoga scene with your mother.

Yes. As much as I would watching it with Mrs. Paul.

[mad cow]

I just posted a video that, in his own words, details why he uses the constitution as an argument.

Should I post the video where he answers, after being asked how he feels about those who want to go beyond the constitution, that he agrees with that stance, and even says that that is what his goal is?

And there is a video from 6 days ago where he clearly states that his definition of a libertarian is a Strict Constitutionalist.
Follow the link if you have forgotten what he clearly said 6 days ago.

[angelatc]

Yes. As much as I would watching it with Mrs. Paul.

But would you feel awkward watching it with your wife?

[phill4paul]

But would you feel awkward watching it with your wife?

I'm not married. I wouldn't have a problem watching it with my ex. As I was saying I am just projecting. I wouldn't feel comfortable watching that scene with someone I identify with my mothers generation and social conservatism. Mrs. Paul, Carol, may not be like that at all. I would not be offended if she enjoyed the scene tremendously. I would just be surprised. Again, because of my own projection.

[mello]

At the end of Couples Retreat, there is a stinger after the credits where Vaughn talks about the Fed.

[Brett85]

If he pretty much agrees with Ron he's a libertarian, not a conservative.

1) A lot of conservative Republicans supported Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012.
2) Ron Paul has mostly conservative positions on the issues.
3) You don't have to agree with a candidate on every single issue in order to support him or her.

[FrankRep]

And there is a video from 6 days ago where he clearly states that his definition of a libertarian is a Strict Constitutionalist.
Follow the link if you have forgotten what he clearly said 6 days ago.


Ron Paul: What is a Libertarian? A Strict Constitutionalist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVZKHYRfyoE)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVZKHYRfyoE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVZKHYRfyoE

[jkr]

...if you can dodge town hall...

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

You guys have never heard play to your audience and you're using pieces where Ron obviously does this to try and prove some ridiculous point. Trying to claim Ron in your exclusive camp to try and 'legitimize' yourselves or something. I don't even fucking understand. Ron is not infallible. He holds many good positions, some bad too. He also is not Kantian in the sense that he prescribes to universalism, so he obviously has no problems telling slight of hands to whatever audience he is in front. (e.g. using the Constitution argument because it isn't as 'off-putting' or is more 'accepting' to certain audiences rather than for his base beliefs of economic or moral imperative, because after-all, appealing to the Constitution, is a logical fallacy (appeal to authority)).

[enhanced_deficit]

Is this conservative-bashing day? I'm getting pretty sick and tired of it, personally. This board is not a libertarian board. It is for all lovers of liberty and supporters of Ron and Rand Paul, regardless of label.

You guys better quit this shit, because it's going to run off a whole lot of people from supporting our candidates.

NOTE: This isn't just directed at you ed. Yours was just the most recent one today that I've seen.

Although I don't understand which part was "bashing" in my post, I should have used "conservative" in quotes. I agree Ron Paul often used to say that US conservatives have moved away from principles of conservatism. My statement was somewhat backward looking and things are in a flux as Republicans and "conservatives" of recent years are trying to find a change in direction, but there is no denying that vast majority of Republicans/so called "conservatives" have been one of the largest supporters of Iraq invasion, Patriot Act, Gitmo and pretty much everything done under Bush regime.

VV is a Ron Paul conservative slash Libertarian and I hope this brand comes to define "conservatives" in America tomorrow. But I do not believe it does today and certainly did not in yester years.

Actor Vince Vaughn: I'm a Ron Paul Conservative : Libertarian (http://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/1qbeg7/actor_vince_vaughn_im_a_ron_paul_conservative/)