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AuH20
11-05-2013, 08:13 AM
This just broke.

AuH20
11-05-2013, 09:50 AM
dun dun dun dun. I love the puritatians who jumped onto this trojan horse outfit. Too funny. A little cheese works perfectly for a trap...Sarvis originally voted for Cuccinelli as AG to boot but he suddenly switched horses? ROFL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/05/revealed-obama-campaign-bundler-helping-fund-libertarian-in-tight-va-gubernatorial-race/

FrankRep
11-05-2013, 09:58 AM
Excellent strategy by the Democrats. If I were a Big Government Democrat, I would totally campaign for the Libertarian party.

dinosaur
11-05-2013, 09:58 AM
Big L libertarians really need to apply some of the suspicion that they reserve for social conservatives to the embarrassing parade of greeks bearing gifts.

FrankRep
11-05-2013, 09:59 AM
Flashback:

Ron Paul to Virginians: 'Insane' to Vote for 'Libertarian' Robert Sarvis
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/04/Ron-Paul-to-Virginians-Insane-to-Vote-for-Libertarian-Robert-Sarvis

klamath
11-05-2013, 10:03 AM
Everybody knows libertarians are pure and never play politics or compromise their principle... Only the R and D parties do that!

AuH20
11-05-2013, 10:05 AM
Everybody knows libertarians are pure and never play politics or compromise their principle... Only the R and D parties do that!

Some libertarians have a nefarious agenda similar the mainstream GOP. The whole Sarvis affair has been proof positive of this. No one did any research on this guy, while at the same time demonizing Cuccinelli as Satan Jr.

specsaregood
11-05-2013, 10:06 AM
I cant imagine why this would bother a Libertarian. Using your enemies money for good isn't something I have a problem with. If I understand most Libertarians position on Sarvis, it isn't that they think he is a good candidate; but rather to support their party. So this enemies money only help them in that endeavor.

belian78
11-05-2013, 10:06 AM
Source for anyone claiming anywhere on these boards that their affiliation with the Libertarian party is source to their convictions and principles? I'll wait...

Barrex
11-05-2013, 10:14 AM
Why is this revealed just now? Little too late?

Cleaner44
11-05-2013, 10:15 AM
This is democrats smartly using the libertarian/neocon division in the GOP to their advantage. The smart counter move for the GOP would be to embrace the libertarian movement and stop treating them like outsiders. If the GOP doesn't stop assaulting libertarians they will continue to lose many races that are winnable.

klamath
11-05-2013, 10:17 AM
Source for anyone claiming anywhere on these boards that their affiliation with the Libertarian party is source to their convictions and principles? I'll wait...I'll wait for someone to find anywhere where people claim the GOP as the source of their convictions...

phill4paul
11-05-2013, 10:18 AM
This is democrats smartly using the libertarian/neocon division in the GOP to their advantage. The smart counter move for the GOP would be to embrace the libertarian movement and stop treating them like outsiders. If the GOP doesn't stop assaulting libertarians they will continue to lose many races that are winnable.

The GOP offered absolutely nothing for the L.P. party in exchange for their votes. This could have played out much differently. It was a missed opportunity on the part of the GOP to form a coalition.

AuH20
11-05-2013, 10:24 AM
The GOP offered absolutely nothing for the L.P. party in exchange for their votes. This could have played out much differently. It was a missed opportunity on the part of the GOP to form a coalition.

Who knows what happened? I have a hard time believing that the Cuccinelli campaign did not reach out Sarvis.

compromise
11-05-2013, 10:26 AM
The GOP offered absolutely nothing for the L.P. party in exchange for their votes. This could have played out much differently. It was a missed opportunity on the part of the GOP to form a coalition.

Other than offering a candidate that agreed with much of the LP's platform?

HOLLYWOOD
11-05-2013, 10:38 AM
Why is this revealed just now? Little too late?Yeah, everyone I have been chatting with are saying the same thing... WHY is this coming out now, on election day? Who's doing the vetting? What took them so long on the background checks? Who forgot to follow the money trails? etc..


Who knows what happened? I have a hard time believing that the Cuccinelli campaign did not reach out Sarvis.

Yes indeed, especially when the pole were showing Sarvis with 13%... that would immediately send a peace offering for a coalition... there's more to all of this than on the surface.

Wonder if Obama is using the IRS, NSA, DOJ as covert ops for McAwfull? You know what Ron just said last night... "The 'Thugs' in Washington DC..."

phill4paul
11-05-2013, 03:24 PM
Who knows what happened? I have a hard time believing that the Cuccinelli campaign did not reach out Sarvis.

I don't know. I would have a hard time believing that Ron Paul with his creds couldn't have brokered a deal. Perhaps a bone thrown to the LP to allow them in future debates. Something. It seems to me that it was a forgone conclusion that just having the name of Paul attached would get them their desired results. The LP is a political party. They want more access to the two-party stage. It seems to me a missed opportunity to form a better coalition. I don't think that the GOP is going to accuse the LP of being inconsequential again depending on how this works out.

phill4paul
11-05-2013, 03:26 PM
Other than offering a candidate that agreed with much of the LP's platform?

The LP is it's own party. They want more access. That is how the game is played. As so many here that claim to know it all constantly impress.

FrankRep
11-05-2013, 03:29 PM
I don't know. I would have a hard time believing that Ron Paul with his creds couldn't have brokered a deal. Perhaps a bone thrown to the LP to allow them in future debates. Something. It seems to me that it was a forgone conclusion that just having the name of Paul attached would get them their desired results. The LP is a political party. They want more access to the two-party stage. It seems to me a missed opportunity to form a better coalition. I don't think that the GOP is going to accuse the LP of being inconsequential again depending on how this works out.

If things turn out bad in Virginia, I would imagine that large amounts of Republicans would view the Libertarian party as just an extension of the Democrat party.

phill4paul
11-05-2013, 03:34 PM
If things turn out bad in Virginia, I would imagine that large amounts of Republicans would view the Libertarian party as just an extension of the Democrat party.

Well, they did view them as inconsequential. If the GOP doesn't win then they are going to have to point the blame somewhere. There was a seven percent voting block that they failed to gain. They probably could have if they went about it right. As to the blame game, I didn't see the L.P. end it's campaign and throw support to the Dems.

pcosmar
11-05-2013, 03:39 PM
If things turn out bad in Virginia, I would imagine that large amounts of Republicans would view the Libertarian party as just an extension of the Democrat party.

You Know,, I could really give a shit about what Republicans think..

I have seen enough to know that I want nothing to do with them,, and these fucking threads are pushing me to become militant in my hatred.

Reagan,, Created FEMA,, promoted Socialized Health Care,, increased the Police State,, (War on Drugs)
G Bush I,, "Read My Lips" ,, "New World Order",, He was fucking CIA for Gods sake
G BUSH II,, War,, Lies and WAR,, Gave us the TSA and the Patriot Act.


Certainly not a full list of accomplishments,,
Oh,, and the last two presidential candidates,, McCain and Romney. @puke

CaptLouAlbano
11-05-2013, 03:47 PM
If things turn out bad in Virginia, I would imagine that large amounts of Republicans would view the Libertarian party as just an extension of the Democrat party.


One of the reasons why to most people, I will not describe myself as a libertarian (even though the views I hold are most closely aligned with that ideology). The stench of the LP is not one I want to have on my person.

Feeding the Abscess
11-05-2013, 03:48 PM
Who knows what happened? I have a hard time believing that the Cuccinelli campaign did not reach out Sarvis.

What is known is that it was Cuccinelli blocking access to Sarvis/LP. That effectively burned any potential bridge-making.


dun dun dun dun. I love the puritatians who jumped onto this trojan horse outfit. Too funny. A little cheese works perfectly for a trap...Sarvis originally voted for Cuccinelli as AG to boot but he suddenly switched horses? ROFL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/05/revealed-obama-campaign-bundler-helping-fund-libertarian-in-tight-va-gubernatorial-race/

The puritans stayed away from Sarvis, too.

pcosmar
11-05-2013, 04:32 PM
One of the reasons why to most people, I will not describe myself as a libertarian (even though the views I hold are most closely aligned with that ideology). The stench of the LP is not one I want to have on my person.

That is the way I feel about Republicans.

I made an exception for Ron... but the Republicans didn't want him either.

angelatc
11-05-2013, 04:34 PM
dun dun dun dun. I love the puritatians who jumped onto this trojan horse outfit. Too funny. A little cheese works perfectly for a trap...Sarvis originally voted for Cuccinelli as AG to boot but he suddenly switched horses? ROFL $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/05/revealed-obama-campaign-bundler-helping-fund-libertarian-in-tight-va-gubernatorial-race/

They don't care about anything except keeping their ballot access. Which might make sense if they ever came remotely close to winning an election.

angelatc
11-05-2013, 04:38 PM
Well, they did view them as inconsequential. If the GOP doesn't win then they are going to have to point the blame somewhere. There was a seven percent voting block that they failed to gain. They probably could have if they went about it right. As to the blame game, I didn't see the L.P. end it's campaign and throw support to the Dems.

Well, the Libertarians spent mot of their time attacking KC, which is sort of indirect support.

But the candidates's only job is to win an election. When it comes to laying blame for a loss, it is only on the candidate. People have a right to run against him.

The GOP moves back and forth on their opinion of the Libertarians. They're either inconsequential, or they're absolutely to blame for everything.

Feeding the Abscess
11-05-2013, 04:42 PM
Well, the Libertarians spent mot of their time attacking KC, which is sort of indirect support.

But the candidates's only job is to win an election. When it comes to laying blame for a loss, it is only on the candidate. People have a right to run against him.

The GOP moves back and forth on their opinion of the Libertarians. They're either inconsequential, or they're absolutely to blame for everything.

Same with liberals. First, libertarians are tools of the corporate elite. Next minute, they're losers living in their mom's basement whose ideas would crash the world economy and send us back to the dark ages.