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Zippyjuan
10-31-2013, 02:47 PM
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/tec?guid=20131031/5c17ad50-1ff6-4016-8091-f3f678db9276


WASHINGTON (AP) — Airline passengers won't have to "turn off all electronic devices" anymore — they'll be able to read, work, play games, watch movies and listen to music from gate to gate under new guidelines from the Federal Aviation Administration. But they still can't talk on their cellphones through the flight.

Don't expect the changes to happen immediately, FAA Administrator Michael Huerta said Thursday at a news conference announcing new rules. How fast will vary by airline.

Delta and JetBlue said they would quickly submit plans to implement the new policy. Airlines will have to show the FAA that their airplanes meet the new guidelines and that they've updated their flight-crew training manuals, safety announcements and rules for stowing devices to reflect the new guidelines.

It sounded like good news to passengers heading out from Reagan National Airport on Thursday.

Ketan Patel, 24, said he's happy that regulators have debunked the idea that the devices pose a safety problem. "If it isn't a problem, it should be allowed," he said as he stepped into a security line, a smartphone in his hand.

Monica Lexie, 50, entering the same line, said the change will enable her to use her Kindle to read longer. But then she was never bothered by the restrictions.

"You just shut it off and wait for the little light to go on," she said. "Our safety takes precedence."

Currently, passengers are required to turn off their smartphones, tablets and other devices once a plane's door closes. They're not supposed to restart them until the planes reach 10,000 feet and the captain gives the go-ahead. Passengers are supposed to turn their devices off again as the plane descends to land and not restart them until it is on the ground.

Under the new guidelines, airlines whose planes are properly protected from electronic interference may allow passengers to use the devices during takeoffs, landings and taxiing, the FAA said. Most new airliners and other planes that have been modified so that passengers can use Wi-Fi at higher altitudes are expected to meet the criteria.

Passengers will also be able to connect to the Internet to surf, exchange emails, or download data below 10,000 feet if the plane has an installed Wi-Fi system, but not through cellular networks. Passengers will be told to switch their devices to airplane mode. Heavier devices such as laptops will continue to have to be stowed away because of concern they might injure someone if they go flying around the cabin.

The guidelines reflect the evolution in types and prevalence of devices used by passengers over the past decade. In 2003, 70 percent of passengers carried electronic devices with them on planes, and the most common device was a cellphone that wasn't capable of connecting to the Internet, followed by a calculator, according to a survey by the Consumer Electronics Association. A follow-up survey by the association this year found that 99 percent of passengers carry some device with them, with smartphones the most common followed by notebook or laptop computers.

In-flight cellphone calls will continue to be prohibited. Regulatory authority over phone calls belongs to the Federal Communications Commission, not the FAA. The commission prohibits the calls because of concern that phones on planes flying at hundreds of miles per hour could strain the ability of cellular networks to keep up as the devices keep trying to connect with cellphone towers, interfering with service to users on the ground.

The changes announced Thursday by the FAA will apply to U.S. air carriers for both domestic and international flights.



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Bruno
10-31-2013, 02:52 PM
Was probably among the most stupid of regulations on commercial flights. Glad they got rid of it.

donnay
10-31-2013, 03:11 PM
In-flight cellphone calls will continue to be prohibited. Regulatory authority over phone calls belongs to the Federal Communications Commission, not the FAA. The commission prohibits the calls because of concern that phones on planes flying at hundreds of miles per hour could strain the ability of cellular networks to keep up as the devices keep trying to connect with cellphone towers, interfering with service to users on the ground.

That didn't seem to be a problem on 9/11. (wink - wink) They just continue to lie. Cell phones cannot connect even at 1,000 feet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJk8qdrv6AM

HOLLYWOOD
11-01-2013, 05:02 AM
Nothing irks me more than these low information parroting 'Flying waitresses' telling me to turnoff my electronics and the BS about it interferes with the cockpit electronics.

ANYBODY who worked with avionics knows, it was all BS.

luctor-et-emergo
11-01-2013, 05:58 AM
That didn't seem to be a problem on 9/11. (wink - wink) They just continue to lie. Cell phones cannot connect even at 1,000 feet.

Sometimes good weather conditions allow for connections pretty high up. I've had connection up to 3000ft before in small aircraft. But I do agree this doesn't work on airliners, although it could well be the speed that's actually inhibiting the connection to be made as can sometimes be the case with other wireless services.

CaseyJones
11-01-2013, 08:58 AM
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304527504579169542339497208


By year-end, most airline passengers will be able to use their tablets, e-readers and other gadgets during all stages of flight, the culmination of a decadeslong process that brings the flying experience further into the digital age.

The Federal Aviation Administration's decision, its first big shift on electronic devices since it restricted their use in flight in 1966, caps years of debate over whether electronic emissions from devices can interfere with cockpit instruments.

Previous rules required passengers to turn off all electronic devices on aircraft below 10,000 feet—one of the most disliked rules in commercial flying. Under the new rules, fliers will be able to use hand-held devices such as smartphones, tablets and e-readers from gate to gate. Larger items like laptops will have to be stowed during takeoffs and landings.

Phone calls remain banned in flight and devices must remain in airplane mode, shutting off their cellular connection. In-flight cellular connections are prohibited by the Federal Communications Commission because of concerns that they interfere with cell towers on the ground. The FAA said airlines can offer Wi-Fi at all altitudes, though many airlines' connections don't function below 10,000 feet.

donnay
11-01-2013, 09:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWUjr4CxK3o

Brian4Liberty
11-01-2013, 09:22 AM
The rules against devices because of interference was always BS. What a joke that has been.

A rule against talking on phones on planes still makes sense. It's not about technology, it's about courtesy.