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enhanced_deficit
10-31-2013, 02:17 AM
Family of grandmother who was killed by Obama drone attack including the two children injured in that attack is in Washington this week.

http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2013/10/30/us_drone_warfare_only_3_per_cent_of_drone_casualti es_were_civilians_says_pakistani_government/us_drone_strike.jpg.size.xxlarge.letterbox.jpghttp ://www.ivstatic.com/files/et/imagecache/400x300/files/blog_articles/sasha-barack-malia-obama-636.jpg

Left: Nabila Rehman (survivor of Obama drone attack who lost her grandma in same attack), Right: Sasha and Malia with father



Drone strikes: tears in Congress as Pakistani family tells of mother's death

Translator brought to tears by family's plea as Congress hears from civilian victims of alleged US drone strike for the first time

Karen McVeigh in New York

theguardian.com, Tuesday 29 October 2013 15.24 EDT
Jump to comments (242) (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/29/pakistan-family-drone-victim-testimony-congress#start-of-comments)


Nabila Rehman, 9, holds up a picture she drew depicting the US drone strike on her Pakistan village which killed her grandmother. Photograph: Jason Reed/Reuters

The family of a 67-year-old midwife from a remote village in North Waziristan told lawmakers on Tuesday about her death and the "CIA drone" they say was responsible. Their harrowing accounts marked the first time Congress had ever heard from civilian victims of an alleged US drone strike.

Rafiq ur Rehman, a Pakistani primary school teacher who appeared on Capitol Hill with his children (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/29/www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/27/drones-attack-pakistan-family-rehman-congress), Zubair, 13, and Nabila, 9, described his mother, Momina Bibi, as the "string that held our family together". His two children, who were gathering okra with their grandmother the day she was killed, on 24 October 2012, were injured in the attack.
"Nobody has ever told me why my mother was targeted that day," Rehman said, through a translator. "Some media outlets reported that the attack was on a car, but there is no road alongside my mother’s house. Others reported that the attack was on a house. But the missiles hit a nearby field, not a house. All of them reported that three, four, five militants were killed."
Instead, he said, only one person was killed that day: "Not a militant but my mother."

"In urdu we have a saying: aik lari main pro kay rakhna. Literally translated, it means the string that holds the pearls together. That is what my mother was. She was the string that held our family together. Since her death, the string has been broken and life has not been the same. We feel alone and we feel lost."
An Amnesty International report (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/22/amnesty-us-officials-war-crimes-drones), published last week, lists Bibi among 900 civilians they say have been killed by drone strikes, a far higher number than previously reported. The Amnesty report said the US may have committed war crimes and should stand trial for its actions.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/29/pakistan-family-drone-victim-testimony-congress



Obama family is known to invite childrens groups to White House for various political agendas/photo ops usually. If he has any moral decency, he needs to invite this family of drone victims to the White House while they are in Washington and have these children meet his daughters. Obama had claimed that his daughters convinced him to change his mind on gay marriage, maybe Sasha and Malia will convince him to end drone killing of grandmas/children and civilians after meeting Nabila and her brother.
Reportedly Obama spent tax payers money on food tasters for protection of his daughters during their vacations, he then must know how fathers feel about safeguarding their children and should meet father of these children face to face even if his handlers/puppet masters advise him otherwise.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/drone-kids.jpg?w=468&h=468


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"Every Time I Think About Those Kids It Gets Me Mad"

http://n7.alamy.com/zooms/85c6e9aa9e2d4e639d5bcada1a2a4114/epa04313235-an-afghan-policeman-stands-next-to-a-protest-banner-during-e4pd37.jpg
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Athan
10-31-2013, 07:46 AM
Where are the the anti-gunners? And where are their protests?

brushfire
10-31-2013, 08:10 AM
Where are the the anti-gunners? And where are their protests?

Well, it obviously works against their agenda. They take hostages (its for the children) when it benefits their political agenda.

The same questions can be asked about the government run Fast and Furious scandal...

TruckinMike
10-31-2013, 08:13 AM
Where are the the anti-gunners? And where are their protests? Bump Yep!

seapilot
10-31-2013, 09:57 AM
Obama apologists using their sick twisted logic will say that Bush killed a lot more. Using drones makes it impersonal and even more unaccountable.

brushfire
10-31-2013, 10:23 AM
Obama apologists using their sick twisted logic will say that Bush killed a lot more. Using drones makes it impersonal and even more unaccountable.

Obama apologists are simply fully of sh!t... that's probably not news to them, either.

http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/

FSP-Rebel
10-31-2013, 11:00 AM
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EBounding
10-31-2013, 11:06 AM
"I would say to President Obama if I had the opportunity to meet with him is: 'What happened to me and my family was wrong'. I would ask him to find an end, a peaceful end, to what is happening."

I have to give these people credit, because I don't think I would be that composed and respectful if some government just bombed and killed my family.

Christian Liberty
10-31-2013, 11:36 AM
I have to give these people credit, because I don't think I would be that composed and respectful if some government just bombed and killed my family.

Me either.

enhanced_deficit
10-31-2013, 11:46 AM
Obama apologists using their sick twisted logic will say that Bush killed a lot more. Using drones makes it impersonal and even more unaccountable.

Except that it won't be true.

Obama's Afghan Legacy: More Civilian Deaths - Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/10/obamas-afghan-legacy-more_n_833915.html)
by Dan Froomkin (https://www.google.com/search?q=afghan+civilians+obama+bush&biw=1366&bih=648&tbs=ppl_ids:--107099181198839750938-,ppl_nps:Dan+Froomkin,ppl_aut:1)
Mar 10, 2011 - Obama Afghan Civilians ... one negative result is indisputable: the war has grown deadlier for Afghan civilians. ..... Obama is bush on steroids.


Obama More Deadly for Afghan Civilians than Bush (http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2009/02/02/obama-more-deadly-for-afghan-civilians-than-bush-in-jan-2009.html)
Feb 2, 2009 - RAWA News: Much official ado has been made in Washington D.C. and in the U.S. corporate press about how the new Administration will be ...

Obama Keeps Air-Raiding Villages And Killing Civilians (http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/obama-keeps-air-raiding-villages-and-killing-civilians/)
During the campaign, Obama attacked George Bush’s Afghanistan policy saying (http://www.breitbart.tv/html/4339.html):
“We’ve got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there.”

So the question is, why is the man who demagogued George Bush for air-raiding villages and killing civilians air-raiding villages and killing civilians? (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/02/22/87352/us-concedes-air-strike-killed.html)

The Disintegration of Obama's Afghanistan War Strategy
Recent incidents there, like the rogue U.S. soldier who killed 16 civilians on Sunday, may accelerate the U.S. withdrawal.
Michael Hirsh Mar 12 2012, 10:01 AM ET
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/the-disintegration-of-obamas-afghanistan-war-strategy/254322/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a9J-yAEk7s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a9J-yAEk7s

https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/ThRamzhdqvY/hqdefault.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=6PkCror52-q6RM&tbnid=pLrs5LGj1L4sQM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.commondreams.org%2Fheadline% 2F2013%2F10%2F29-3&ei=0ZNyUrWkKIq5kQea74DgBw&bvm=bv.55819444,d.eW0&psig=AFQjCNGp312T0iZq-0jwwlnaYJzShjOk2g&ust=1383327002696545)


In other news:

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Paulbot99
10-31-2013, 11:46 AM
Where is, "That could have been my daughter"?

enhanced_deficit
10-31-2013, 08:54 PM
In other news, there is not only "double tap" but "triple tap" too apparently:

Drone Attacks at Funerals of People Killed in Drone Strikes

A new data point in the ongoing debate over "targeted killing"
Conor Friedersdorf (http://www.theatlantic.com/conor-friedersdorf/) Oct 24 2013, 10:00 AM ET

ReutersHuman-rights groups have alleged for some time that the United States kills people in drone strikes, waits for rescuers to arrive, and deliberately targets them too, and that we target and kill mourners at the funerals of drone-strike victims.
The Bureau of Investigative Journalism is one prominent source of these accusations. "Of the 18 attacks on rescuers and mourners reported at the time by credible media, twelve cases have been independently confirmed by our researchers," it reported (http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/02/04/get-the-data-obamas-terror-drones/) in February 2012. "Credible news reports emerged a year later indicating that double-tap strikes had been revived," it added (http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/08/01/bureau-investigation-finds-fresh-evidence-of-cia-drone-strikes-on-rescuers/) this August. "International media including the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18320431), CNN (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/06/world/asia/pakistan-drone-attack/index.html) and news agency AFP (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ioaYD4TOCUdTfk-KhLMji8m0CutQ) variously reported that rescuers had been targeted on five occasions between May 24 and July 23 2012, with a mosque (http://www.channel4.com/news/us-drone-attack-hits-pakistan-mosque) and prayers for the dead (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/03/american-drones-kill-12-pakistan?newsfeed=true) also reportedly bombed."
I thought of the controversy surrounding "double-tap" drone strikes yesterday, when I came to the following passage in GQ's article (http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/201311/drone-uav-pilot-assassination#ixzz2iaYYQDWJ) on a former Air Force drone operator:
On the day of one of our interviews, The New York Times ran an article about the military’s research into PTSD among drone operators. I watched as he scanned a barrage of Facebook comments mocking the very idea that drone operators could suffer trauma:
>I broke a fucking nail on that last mission!
>Maybe they should wear seatbelts
>they can claim PTSD when they have to do “Body Collection & Identification”
And then Bryant waded in:
>I’m ashamed to have called any of you assholes brothers in arms.
>Combat is combat. Killing is killing. This isn’t a video game. How many of you have killed a group of people, watched as their bodies are picked up, watched the funeral, then killed them too?
>Yeah, it’s not the same as being on the ground. So fucking what? Until you know what it is like and can make an intelligent meaningful assessment, shut your goddamn fucking mouths before somebody shuts them for you.
Bryant’s defense—a virtual battle over an actual war—left him seething at his keyboard.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/drone-attacks-at-funerals-of-people-killed-in-drone-strikes/280821/



395958108633059329

MSM pundits seem tied up with other things.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/31/article-2480918-191BA2CD00000578-990_634x986.jpg In the spirit: Today show host Matt Lauer dressed up as C.J. Parker, who was played by Pamela Anderson in Baywatch, as he took part in the NBC morning show's Halloween special on Thursday
31 October 2013



(http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2480918/Matt-Lauer-dresses-Pamela-Anderson-Today-celebrates-Halloween-wacky-classic-TV-character-costumes.html#ixzz2jMHg8OXW)

Paulbot99
10-31-2013, 11:53 PM
Bread and Circuses, people. Bread and Circuses.

bolil
11-01-2013, 12:10 AM
Where are the the anti-gunners? And where are their protests?

Reserved for state sanctioned events it seems. They only care about Murrican kids, or so it would seem.


Wanna know something else? This girl is beautiful. Perhaps her beauty is amplified by Obama, disgusting puppet sellout that he is.

jclay2
11-01-2013, 12:30 AM
Where is, "That could have been my daughter"?

lol thread winner. If only the msm wasn't in the establishment pocket.

Paulbot99
11-01-2013, 12:53 AM
lol thread winner. If only the msm wasn't in the establishment pocket.

This has been planned for a long time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wJcVachCf8

People give up and join the new power to the detriment of all.

bolil
11-01-2013, 12:55 AM
Matt Lauer might want to change his name to Bridget if he isn't going to take the infrequent walk around the block. I've seen stronger legs on a broken table.

bolil
11-01-2013, 01:00 AM
Aint nothing in this world can piss me off so much as Tolkien being misused by some traffic trolling piece of shit. Pfffffft. NOt you paul, the guy that posted it on YT. Fucking asshole, like he owns those words?

Paulbot99
11-01-2013, 01:01 AM
Fine, I'll take it down.

bolil
11-01-2013, 01:03 AM
Fine, I'll take it down.

What? If you pm me I will delete this quote, but WHAT? why? take it not down. Raise it up. Are the mods suppressing authenticity? If so, I am leaving. I mean, I am not infallible ya know. I just speak what comes to heart and mind. I take issue with anyone abusing tolkien or dickens though. THat I cannot help. I called a guy a prick in class for using the term "Dickensian Orphan" when he had never read Dickens. A fact which was evident in the way he used the term, which was the origin of the question I asked idget. I have my picadillos, I guess.

Tolkien is my guide, so blame me not if I am a bit protective of his legacy. Fuck it, very protective. I choose to be.

Keith and stuff
11-01-2013, 01:03 AM
Obama is pretty aggressive when it comes to macking on his daughters.

Mani
11-01-2013, 01:09 AM
Except that it won't be true.

Obama's Afghan Legacy: More Civilian Deaths - Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/10/obamas-afghan-legacy-more_n_833915.html)
by Dan Froomkin (https://www.google.com/search?q=afghan+civilians+obama+bush&biw=1366&bih=648&tbs=ppl_ids:--107099181198839750938-,ppl_nps:Dan+Froomkin,ppl_aut:1)
Mar 10, 2011 - Obama Afghan Civilians ... one negative result is indisputable: the war has grown deadlier for Afghan civilians. ..... Obama is bush on steroids.


Obama More Deadly for Afghan Civilians than Bush (http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2009/02/02/obama-more-deadly-for-afghan-civilians-than-bush-in-jan-2009.html)
Feb 2, 2009 - RAWA News: Much official ado has been made in Washington D.C. and in the U.S. corporate press about how the new Administration will be ...

Obama Keeps Air-Raiding Villages And Killing Civilians (http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/obama-keeps-air-raiding-villages-and-killing-civilians/)
During the campaign, Obama attacked George Bush’s Afghanistan policy saying (http://www.breitbart.tv/html/4339.html):
“We’ve got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there.”

So the question is, why is the man who demagogued George Bush for air-raiding villages and killing civilians air-raiding villages and killing civilians? (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/02/22/87352/us-concedes-air-strike-killed.html)

The Disintegration of Obama's Afghanistan War Strategy
Recent incidents there, like the rogue U.S. soldier who killed 16 civilians on Sunday, may accelerate the U.S. withdrawal.
Michael Hirsh Mar 12 2012, 10:01 AM ET
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/03/the-disintegration-of-obamas-afghanistan-war-strategy/254322/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a9J-yAEk7s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a9J-yAEk7s

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In other news:

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Ya...Look at those terrorists. Those kids look so evil right? Glad we bombed their grandma.


So far the drone apologists have come up with 4 basic retorts:

#1) It was an accident. Collateral Damage. Sorry. War is Hell, we didn't do it on purpose, so we are no bad guys. Also, WWII had tons of collateral damage folks. Lots of innocent people died.. (Huh? Tons of innocent people died in WII so that makes it OK when we blow up children and old ladies? How the fuck does that logic make any sense?? And since we didn't MEAN to kill them...IT's OK we killed them? WTF???? So if someone blows up your house and kills your family...as long as they didn't MEAN to kill your family it's all good right??)

#2) The terrorists are hiding behind the innocent. They are human shields! Not our fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (When grandma got blown up, they don't even have a building or road nearby. She got blown up in a field picking Okra. WTF shield is that???)

#3) They are not innocent. They are working with the Taliban and Al Qeaida..They knew the consequences of hanging around terrorists. (can't respond to someone who feels our gov't only kills terrorists, it's impossible they kill innocent people. Hey, they are brown they must have been terrorist our govt can't do wrong....).

#4) Why should we apologize. What about the thousands of people dead by Islamic radical terrorists! They started it! Why not focus on all the people they killed, why are people pointing the finger at us! They started it man!!!! (I have no idea how to respond to this kind of attitude. So if bad guys blow up innocent people, it's OK when we do it...coz....they started it?)

bolil
11-01-2013, 01:09 AM
Obama is pretty aggressive when it comes to macking on his daughters.

What? You thought that pimps discriminated?

Paulbot99
11-01-2013, 01:11 AM
What? If you pm me I will delete this quote, but WHAT? why? take it not down. Raise it up. Are the mods suppressing authenticity? If so, I am leaving. I mean, I am not infallible ya know. I just speak what comes to heart and mind. I take issue with anyone abusing tolkien or dickens though. THat I cannot help. I called a guy a prick in class for using the term "Dickensian Orphan" when he had never read Dickens. A fact which was evident in the way he used the term, which was the origin of the question I asked idget. I have my picadillos, I guess.

Tolkien is my guide, so blame me not if I am a bit protective of his legacy. Fuck it, very protective. I choose to be.

Oh. LOL. I see. Got it. I love Tolkien as well. That's why I like to use his work to make points in discussions.

bolil
11-01-2013, 01:12 AM
Ya...Look at those terrorists. Those kids look so evil right? Glad we bombed their grandma.


So far the drone apologists have come up with 4 basic retorts:

#1) It was an accident. Collateral Damage. Sorry. War is Hell, we didn't do it on purpose, so we are no bad guys. Also, WWII had tons of collateral damage folks. Lots of innocent people died.. (Huh? Tons of innocent people died in WII so that makes it OK when we blow up children and old ladies? How the fuck does that logic make any sense?? And since we didn't MEAN to kill them...IT's OK we killed them? WTF???? So if someone blows up your house and kills your family...as long as they didn't MEAN to kill your family it's all good right??)

#2) The terrorists are hiding behind the innocent. They are human shields! Not our fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (When grandma got blown up, they don't even have a building or road nearby. She got blown up in a field picking Okra. WTF shield is that???)

#3) They are not innocent. They are working with the Taliban and Al Qeaida..They knew the consequences of hanging around terrorists. (can't respond to someone who feels our gov't only kills terrorists, it's impossible they kill innocent people. Hey, they are brown they must have been terrorist our govt can't do wrong....).

#4) Why should we apologize. What about the thousands of people dead by Islamic radical terrorists! They started it! Why not focus on all the people they called, why are people pointing the finger at us! They started it man!!!! (I have no idea how to respond to this kind of attitude. So if bad guys blow up innocent people, it's OK when we do it...coz....they started it?)


Fuck all of that, ya kno. Innocent person killed=murder. Anyone involved can, and should, expect to be slain in turn. If someone exploded my grandmother, they better fucking hide cause some debts persist through time and that is how God intends it to be among humans. This is all so fucked up. BLEW UP A FUCKING INNOCENT. Done done done done done done done done done drone done drone done drone done drone.

Just blew some lady up?! RIght? Fuck it oorah or whatever the fuck. And then buildings come down and we have the gall to be surprised. Fuck it. Ill meet him one day, and I ain't gonna shake is hand. Fucking blood is contagious.

edit for the SS (ironic) I don't give a shit about you, or your god. I have my own, and I happen to believe that when the lights grow dim and then fade entirely that there will be an accounting. I don't need to be vengeance, because I know it exists. It is funny, that here, in the land of the free (ride to prison) I feel compelled to qualify my speech. Meh, I had a litany of things to say to you but I will just sum it up: Fuck you. I know you are here, and you know who you are.

Pigs, pigs, pigs. Uncooked bacon, raw fucking pork. Busy writing drug tickets instead of stopping this? Freedom of speech is dead, understand that those who are still growing. Keep you sentiments between your ears. When we talkers start going quiet it is time to consider alternate modes of life.

Mani
11-01-2013, 01:28 AM
Fuck all of that, ya kno. Innocent person killed=murder. Anyone involved can, and should, expect to be slain in turn. If someone exploded my grandmother, they better fucking hide ...........

Summed up well. in your first sentence. Why is that even hard for people to understand???


The Sandy Hook tragedy shook the entire nation. Our Gov't has committed the equivalent of dozens of sandy hooks with all the kids and innocent we've blown up. But hardly anyone in this nation blinked. Jebus, at least those guys have a proper funeral, looks like our govt even will bomb the funeral as a final "FUCK YOU BROWN PEOPLE"

Keith and stuff
11-01-2013, 01:38 AM
What? You thought that pimps discriminated?

Obama's behavior seemed inappropriate to me. Though, I understand that people from different parts of the world do things different. If his daughter doesn't mind him touching her butt and he doesn't mind touching her butt, I don't think charges need to be pressed. I understand that in some parts of the world, parents even have sex in the same room as children are in because they live in 1 room houses. Obama is very different than most people in the US but since he isn't from here, I'm not surprised...

bolil
11-01-2013, 01:39 AM
Summed up well. in your first sentence. Why is that even hard for people to understand???


The Sandy Hook tragedy shook the entire nation. Our Gov't has committed the equivalent of dozens of sandy hooks with all the kids and innocent we've blown up. But hardly anyone in this nation blinked. Jebus, at least those guys have a proper funeral, looks like our govt even will bomb the funeral as a final "FUCK YOU BROWN PEOPLE"

And when the debt is called in, who pays? Innocent blood for innocent blood and the wicked party on fucking yahts.

bolil
11-01-2013, 01:42 AM
Obama's behavior seemed inappropriate to me. Though, I understand that people from different parts of the world do things different. If his daughter doesn't mind him touching her butt and he doesn't mind touching her butt, I don't think charges need to be pressed. I understand that in some parts of the world, parents even have sex in the same room as children are in because they live in 1 room houses. Obama is very different than most people in the US but since he isn't from here, I'm not surprised...

I wouldn't care if he married his daughter. That he is a part of murdering innocent people, that I cannot ignore. He chose to be a part and play along. ANyone can make that choice, maybe we do. Maybe that is because we are human, normal humans, and we don't spring hard ons by murdering the shit out of people. This ONE incident is not alone, and this shit should have stopped after the first, OF MANY, innocents were murdered. That it does not stop speaks volumes in a volume to loud to bear.

Ban guns. Nah, fuck that, ban drones.

enhanced_deficit
11-07-2013, 02:14 AM
Obama's behavior seemed inappropriate to me. Though, I understand that people from different parts of the world do things different. If his daughter doesn't mind him touching her butt and he doesn't mind touching her butt, I don't think charges need to be pressed. I understand that in some parts of the world, parents even have sex in the same room as children are in because they live in 1 room houses. Obama is very different than most people in the US but since he isn't from here, I'm not surprised...

EM.. that is an understatement.

bill1971
11-07-2013, 01:02 PM
When I post this on a liberal board, they dismiss it because its Obama.

enhanced_deficit
11-07-2013, 06:59 PM
When I post this on a liberal board, they dismiss it because its Obama.

Neocon/moderate neocon libs have no morals or integrity.

amy31416
11-07-2013, 07:58 PM
I'm just glad they got her terrorist grandma before she could wreak more havoc.

kcchiefs6465
11-07-2013, 09:17 PM
When I post this on a liberal board, they dismiss it because its Obama.
Pictures are worth a thousand words.

Carson
11-08-2013, 12:05 AM
Obamikado - I've Got a Little List - Subtitled

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_966692&feature=iv&src_vid=1b_gmO7AJS4&v=5X9tvMadfXU

PRB
11-08-2013, 01:15 AM
I'm sure there's a few who didn't survive and are much younger than his daughters.

Scrapmo
11-08-2013, 05:35 AM
#2) The terrorists are hiding behind the innocent. They are human shields! Not our fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (When grandma got blown up, they don't even have a building or road nearby. She got blown up in a field picking Okra. WTF shield is that???) )

Terrorists Okra now using grandma shields.

But even if the apologist are right and they are using innocent/human shield, how does that justify us mowing down, what are essentially, hostages.

Scrapmo
11-08-2013, 05:41 AM
And then Bryant waded in:
>I’m ashamed to have called any of you assholes brothers in arms.
>Combat is combat. Killing is killing. This isn’t a video game. How many of you have killed a group of people, watched as their bodies are picked up, watched the funeral, then killed them too?


If Bryant didnt want PTSD, he could have maybe...I dont know... not bombed a funeral procession?

enhanced_deficit
11-09-2013, 01:52 AM
Terrorists Okra now using grandma shields.

But even if the apologist are right and they are using innocent/human shield, how does that justify us mowing down, what are essentially, hostages.

You should not ask such dangerous questions.

shane77m
11-09-2013, 10:23 AM
Where are the the anti-gunners? And where are their protests?

rubbing one out to pictures of Obama???

Mani
11-09-2013, 11:41 AM
If Bryant didnt want PTSD, he could have maybe...I dont know... not bombed a funeral procession?

+rep.


Pointing out the fact that a country actually commits such disgusting acts as bombing funeral processions. And then a guy complaining about his suffering for bombing said funerals.....

Excellent point......maybe he should not commit such tRavesties in the first place!!!

Its almost like nazis sending someone to the gas chambers then complaining they are suffering from PSTD afterwards. How fucked up is that?

I blew up a bunch of people....many of them were innocent.....then i blew up their funeral.....many of them innocent as well....i was just following orders. Now i have PSTD....boo hoo.....

How about being charged with a war crime for blowing up innocent people and then attacking their funeral? Maybe PSTD isnt a big deal when you realize you should be in jail for slaughtering people.

enhanced_deficit
11-09-2013, 08:12 PM
Ya...Look at those terrorists. Those kids look so evil right? Glad we bombed their grandma.


So far the drone apologists have come up with 4 basic retorts:

#1) It was an accident. Collateral Damage. Sorry. War is Hell, we didn't do it on purpose, so we are no bad guys. Also, WWII had tons of collateral damage folks. Lots of innocent people died.. (Huh? Tons of innocent people died in WII so that makes it OK when we blow up children and old ladies? How the fuck does that logic make any sense?? And since we didn't MEAN to kill them...IT's OK we killed them? WTF???? So if someone blows up your house and kills your family...as long as they didn't MEAN to kill your family it's all good right??)

#2) The terrorists are hiding behind the innocent. They are human shields! Not our fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (When grandma got blown up, they don't even have a building or road nearby. She got blown up in a field picking Okra. WTF shield is that???)

#3) They are not innocent. They are working with the Taliban and Al Qeaida..They knew the consequences of hanging around terrorists. (can't respond to someone who feels our gov't only kills terrorists, it's impossible they kill innocent people. Hey, they are brown they must have been terrorist our govt can't do wrong....).

#4) Why should we apologize. What about the thousands of people dead by Islamic radical terrorists! They started it! Why not focus on all the people they killed, why are people pointing the finger at us! They started it man!!!! (I have no idea how to respond to this kind of attitude. So if bad guys blow up innocent people, it's OK when we do it...coz....they started it?)

As another member suggested, a picture is worth a thousand words. Show them pics of children who are victims of Glodman Sachs puppet's drone attacks.

Paulbot99
11-09-2013, 10:19 PM
rubbing one out to pictures of Obama???

Nah. Anti-gunners support guns in the hands of the "proper authorities".

enhanced_deficit
11-11-2013, 02:33 PM
rubbing one out to pictures of Obama???

Had to check the urban dictionary on that.

enhanced_deficit
11-13-2013, 01:22 AM
This is not surprising:

Lack of US cooperation' halts Afghan probe into civilian killings (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/12/us-afghanistan-usa-idUSBRE9AB05A20131112)Reuters-Nov 11, 2013
KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's intelligence service has abandoned its investigation into the murder of a group of civilians after being refused ...

GregSarnowski
11-13-2013, 01:45 AM
This is not surprising:

Lack of US cooperation' halts Afghan probe into civilian killings (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/12/us-afghanistan-usa-idUSBRE9AB05A20131112)Reuters-Nov 11, 2013
KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan's intelligence service has abandoned its investigation into the murder of a group of civilians after being refused ...



The men were killed in Wardak's Nerkh district, where a small unit of elite U.S. Army special forces - known as an Operational Detachment-Alpha, or A Team - were based. U.S. Army special forces are also known as Green Berets.

I pity the fool that messes with the A Team.

The Afghan government has no legal recourse. No wonder they hate us.



Bodies of 10 of the men were found by residents in shallow graves within several hundred meters of the U.S. soldiers' base.


"10 of the men"? How many more are missing? I assume they weren't enemy combatants otherwise the military would say, probably just guys rounded up and killed because they thought they might pose a problem at some point.

enhanced_deficit
11-14-2013, 01:02 AM
I pity the fool that messes with the A Team.

The Afghan government has no legal recourse. No wonder they hate us.



"10 of the men"? How many more are missing? I assume they weren't enemy combatants otherwise the military would say, probably just guys rounded up and killed because they thought they might pose a problem at some point.

At least it was not "kill team", just regular A-team.

enhanced_deficit
11-20-2013, 01:50 AM
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MICHELLE O FOR THE RESCUE

http://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif (http://www.drudgereport.com/)



Drudge Headline now.

enhanced_deficit
11-23-2013, 09:42 AM
Looks like local publics in other countries do not understand drone king's game plan and creating unnecessary fuss by blocking freedom trucks:


Pakistani drone protesters block NATO supply route

By RIAZ KHAN, Associated Press | November 23, 2013

PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) — Thousands of people protesting U.S. drone strikes blocked a road in northwest Pakistan on Saturday used to truck NATO troop supplies and equipment in and out of Afghanistan, the latest sign of rising tension caused by the attacks.The protest, led by Pakistani politician and cricket star Imran Khan, had more symbolic value than practical impact as there is normally little NATO supply traffic on the road on Saturdays. The blocked route in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province leads to one of two border crossings used to send supplies overland from Pakistan to neighboring Afghanistan.
Khan, whose Tehreek-e-Insaf party runs the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government, called on federal officials to take a firmer stance to force the U.S. to end drone attacks and block NATO supplies across the country.
"We will put pressure on America, and our protest will continue if drone attacks are not stopped," Khan told the protesters.
The demonstrators dispersed after Khan's speech, but his party put out a statement saying they will begin stopping trucks from carrying NATO supplies through Khyber Pakhtunkhwa indefinitely beginning Sunday night. That could spark a clash with the federal government.


http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Pakistani-drone-protesters-block-NATO-supply-route-5005447.php

Christian Liberty
11-23-2013, 10:55 AM
The Afghan government has no legal recourse. No wonder they hate us.

Because we're free, obviously:rolleyes:

The pathetic neocon drones (And I mean the people here, not the machines) really need to go get educated.

Ender
11-23-2013, 02:27 PM
#3) They are not innocent. They are working with the Taliban and Al Qeaida..They knew the consequences of hanging around terrorists. (can't respond to someone who feels our gov't only kills terrorists, it's impossible they kill innocent people. Hey, they are brown they must have been terrorist our govt can't do wrong....).

#4) Why should we apologize. What about the thousands of people dead by Islamic radical terrorists! They started it! Why not focus on all the people they killed, why are people pointing the finger at us! They started it man!!!! (I have no idea how to respond to this kind of attitude. So if bad guys blow up innocent people, it's OK when we do it...coz....they started it?)

I especially like these 2:

#3) We formed the Al Qaeda as CIA operatives and the evil Taliban are protecting their own territory.

#4) WE started it- not the "terrorists"- and suicide bombers are only prominent when the fighters have no money. When they get bucks then they use drones which are much more acceptable. :rolleyes:

enhanced_deficit
11-24-2013, 10:20 AM
I especially like these 2:

#3) We formed the Al Qaeda as CIA operatives and the evil Taliban are protecting their own territory.

#4) WE started it- not the "terrorists"- and suicide bombers are only prominent when the fighters have no money. When they get bucks then they use drones which are much more acceptable. :rolleyes:


Did you just imply that Goldman Sachs funded drone king is a terrorist/suspected terrorist?

enhanced_deficit
05-14-2014, 08:56 PM
Family of grandmother who was killed by Obama drone attack including the two children injured in that attack is in Washington this week.

http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2013/10/30/us_drone_warfare_only_3_per_cent_of_drone_casualti es_were_civilians_says_pakistani_government/us_drone_strike.jpg.size.xxlarge.letterbox.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=ME8912Uvyc2geM&tbnid=qv7CuGL6QchKdM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thestar.com%2Fnews%2Fworld%2F 2013%2F10%2F30%2Fus_drone_warfare_only_3_per_cent_ of_drone_casualties_were_civilians_says_pakistani_ government.html&ei=zq5yUrq2NMWukAe-noD4AQ&bvm=bv.55819444,d.eW0&psig=AFQjCNHRSCe5jvLcZ3TU4pO6I2i32lW62Q&ust=1383333954359805)

Left: Nabila Rehman (survivor of Obama drone attack who lost her grandma in same attack), Right: Sasha and Malia with father



Drone strikes: tears in Congress as Pakistani family tells of mother's death

Translator brought to tears by family's plea as Congress hears from civilian victims of alleged US drone strike for the first time

Karen McVeigh (http://www.theguardian.com/profile/karenmcveigh) in New York

theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/), Tuesday 29 October 2013 15.24 EDT
Jump to comments (242) (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/29/pakistan-family-drone-victim-testimony-congress#start-of-comments)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/10/29/1383072506298/ddbd0c18-2c73-4691-86c5-816923a294f6-460x276.jpeg
Nabila Rehman, 9, holds up a picture she drew depicting the US drone strike on her Pakistan village which killed her grandmother. Photograph: Jason Reed/Reuters



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/drone-kids.jpg?w=468&h=468 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=drone%20children&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=TcWtj3VsQDfUEM&tbnid=8pK5pO6kTF7ozM:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwillyloman.wordpress.com%2F2012%2 F12%2F22%2Fsandy-hook-shootings%2F&ei=UDjmUYfeIa_e4AOtlIGABQ&bvm=bv.49405654,d.dmg&psig=AFQjCNFlD7qyQNrugbHgbuxAiakwXlaZ-Q&ust=1374128411299069)










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Daughter of unarmed black mother Miriam Carey who survived DC shooting by cops after her car ,in which mother & daughter were riding together, had come to dead end stop is younger than Nabila








Did Hillary meet this daughter in above news when she came to US.. or like SWC droneking she also kept her distance?



Hillary Clinton to leaders: Help all daughters





http://images.politico.com/global/2014/05/14/140514_hillary_clinton_gty_605.jpg






By KATIE GLUECK (http://www.politico.com/reporters/KatieGlueck.html) | 5/14/14 7:25 PM EDT Updated: 5/14/14 7:29 PM EDT
Hillary Clinton returned Wednesday to one of her favorite subjects, calling for a broader conversation about empowering women and girls, and urging world leaders to think not just of their own daughters but also of their “countries’ daughters.”



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/hillary-clinton-daughters-106693.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/hillary-clinton-daughters-106693.html#ixzz31kVLIsTl)

amy31416
05-15-2014, 08:17 AM
Didn't she already appear in front of congress once, and only one or two bothered to attend?

rpfocus
12-16-2014, 03:25 PM
Ah yes, here we go again with Obama, the evil liberal drone king. As if Dubya the evil Republican missile king was any different. Do we really need pics of kids that died in bombings during Dubya's regime?

Once again, RON Paul is the only one who has it right: MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS! Keep troops here! See ya at the ballot box where I'll be WRITING IN RON AGAIN for 2016.

I now return you to your normally scheduled partisan silliness.

PRB
12-16-2014, 03:34 PM
Survived, what about all those who didn't survive? I bet many were toddlers and babies if not in wombs.

enhanced_deficit
12-17-2014, 09:11 AM
Ah yes, here we go again with Obama, the evil liberal drone king. As if Dubya the evil Republican missile king was any different. Do we really need pics of kids that died in bombings during Dubya's regime?

Once again, RON Paul is the only one who has it right: MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS! Keep troops here! See ya at the ballot box where I'll be WRITING IN RON AGAIN for 2016.

I now return you to your normally scheduled partisan silliness.

Not sure if you are implying that SWC Obama's conduct should not be shined light on just cuz he followed SWC Bush.

Hope you are not implying a pro-Bush/anti-Obama bias in depicting alleged war crimes under current plant of moderate neocons.


There maybe some partisan or racial prejudice against Obamas (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/michelle-obama-i-was-asked-take-something-shelf-target_821756.html) in some corners as news headlines today indicate but that is not the case when anyone is talking about alleged war crimes or killings of children in US funded foreign ops.

Henry Rogue
12-17-2014, 09:28 AM
Where are the the anti-gunners? And where are their protests?
Disarming the world, one drone strike at a time.

muh_roads
12-17-2014, 11:23 AM
Where are the the anti-gunners? And where are their protests?

No time to protest. American Idol is on tonight. I'll protest later, but only if I can selfie tweet about it so my friends think I am "making a difference".

Spikender
04-11-2015, 06:59 AM
Not sure if you are implying that SWC Obama's conduct should not be shined light on just cuz he followed SWC Bush.

Hope you are not implying a pro-Bush/anti-Obama bias in depicting alleged war crimes under current plant of moderate neocons.

There maybe some partisan or racial prejudice against Obamas (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/michelle-obama-i-was-asked-take-something-shelf-target_821756.html) in some corners as news headlines today indicate but that is not the case when anyone is talking about alleged war crimes or killings of children in US funded foreign ops.

I'm not sure what rpfocus's point was. Is there something wrong with shining the light on war criminals like Obama and Bush? And even if we were just talking about Obama, does rpfocus really believe this is a website where he'd see Pro-Bush/Anti-Obama bias?

enhanced_deficit
04-11-2015, 07:07 AM
That can be better answered by rpfocus but unlikely to find such bias here with vast majority being of libertarian/anti-war mindset.
Both politicos seem to be SWCs even if only one of them was awarded Nobel Peace Prize by puppet masters.


Obama's Afghan Legacy: More Civilian Deaths - Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/10/obamas-afghan-legacy-more_n_833915.html)
by Dan Froomkin
Mar 10, 2011 - Obama Afghan Civilians ... one negative result is indisputable: the war has grown deadlier for Afghan civilians. ..... Obama is bush on steroids.


Obama More Deadly for Afghan Civilians than Bush (http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2009/02/02/obama-more-deadly-for-afghan-civilians-than-bush-in-jan-2009.html)
Feb 2, 2009 - RAWA News: Much official ado has been made in Washington D.C. and in the U.S. corporate press about how the new Administration will be ...

Spikender
04-11-2015, 07:34 AM
If the kindest words we can muster for Bush is "You managed not to kill as many innocent civilians with airstrikes as your successor", then that hardly is a Pro-Bush statement. That's all I'm saying, if that was what rpfocus was getting hung up on.

enhanced_deficit
06-02-2015, 08:21 AM
The Mass Torture of Obama's Drone Strikes

05/04/2015 12:07 pm EDT


Leon Trotsky once said: "you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you." Unfortunately, that is true for the two innocent hostages -- one American, one Italian -- that were killed accidentally in a January 2015 CIA drone strike near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

Warren Weinstein, a 73-year-old American aid worker, and Giovanni Lo Porto, a 37-year-old Italian citizen both died in a strike that targeted a compound linked to Al-Qaeda. Ahmed Farouq, an Al-Qaeda leader and a U.S. citizen, was also killed in the same strike.
In a brief press conference (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/04/23/statement-president-deaths-warren-weinstein-and-giovanni-lo-porto) last Thursday morning, President Barack Obama took "full responsibility" and apologized for the death of the two hostages.
"I profoundly regret what happened," Obama said (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/04/23/statement-president-deaths-warren-weinstein-and-giovanni-lo-porto). "On behalf of the United States government, I offer our deepest apologies to the families."
Weinstein and Lo Porto's death mark the first known instance (http://www.wsj.com/articles/american-italian-hostages-killed-in-cia-drone-strike-in-january-1429795801) in which a U.S. drone strike accidentally killed hostages. But it certainly isn't the first time innocent civilians have been killed. Many men, women, and children in the Middle East have seen their loved ones blown to pieces by American drone strikes.
In October 2012, a young girl named Nabila Ur Rehman (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-20660443) was tending to her cow in the family compound when she witnessed the slaughtering of her grandmother by a drone, right in front of her eyes. The trauma she must have experienced, and the fear that she continues to live with is unfathomable.
Forget waterboarding, a drone strike is torture.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ayobami-olugbemiga/post_9375_b_7157364.html


TV ads urge Syracuse drone pilots to refuse flying over Afghanistan (video)
May 27, 2015 at 11:50 AM
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- A coalition of peace groups began airing TV ads in Syracuse this week urging pilots from the 174th Attack Wing at Hancock Field in Mattydale to stop flying their remotely-piloted drones over Afghanistan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luf_2fbJ50w

http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/05/tv_ads_urge_ny_air_national_guard_drone_pilots_to_ refuse_flying_over_afghanistan.html

enhanced_deficit
07-22-2016, 12:40 AM
July 21, 2016 7:10 PM
Pastor leads GOP convention in chant, 'All lives matter!'

Chants of "All Lives Matter!" filled the arena at the Republican National Convention Thursday — a not-so-subtle jab at the Black Lives Matter movement that calls attention to police violence against African-Americans.

http://www.mcclatchy-wires.com/wire_photos/4as0p6/picture91189662/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/GOP%202016%20Convention.JPEG
Pastor Mark Burns speaks during the final day of the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Thursday, July 21, 2016. J. Scott Applewhite AP Photo

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER Associated Press

CLEVELAND Chants of "All Lives Matter!" filled the arena at the Republican National Convention Thursday — a not-so-subtle jab at the Black Lives Matter movement that calls attention to police violence against African-Americans.
Leading the chant was a pastor from South Carolina — Mark Burns, who is black. He said Donald Trump won't "pander" to one race.
"I want to declare to the whole world and to the Republican Party that under a Donald Trump administration, all lives matter," Burns said. "That means black lives, white lives, Hispanic lives, Asian lives, Christian lives, Muslim lives. Shout with me! All lives matter!"

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/po...e91189667.html (http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article91189667.html)

James_Madison_Lives
09-11-2016, 08:42 PM
EM.. that is an understatement.

bump

enhanced_deficit
07-27-2021, 11:59 PM
1420067662823047172



July 27, 2021
Edward Snowden @Snowden
Daniel Hale, one of the great American Whistleblowers, was just moments ago sentenced to four years in prison. His crime was telling this truth: 90% of those killed by US drones are bystanders, not the intended targets. He should have been given a medal.



Freedom of the Press
@FreedomofPress
· 13h
Drone whistleblower Daniel Hale is being sentenced right now in an Eastern District of Virginia courtroom. He faces years in prison for following his conscience and serving as a source on incredibly newsworthy stories.

https://twitter.com/snowden/status/1420067662823047172

foxnews.com/us/tennesse-ex-air-force-intelligence-analyst-prison-sentence-leaking-secrets-drone-program-afghanistan

July 27, 2021
Ex-Air Force intelligence analyst gets 45 months for leaking secrets about drone program in Afghanistan
Daniel Hale described his regret and horror as he saw gruesome videos of Afghans killed




In February 2014, after leaving the Air Force and becoming a contractor at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Hale gave classified documents to The Intercept. The documents contained details about so-called U.S. kill lists and especially civilian victims of the drone attacks, which in some cases allegedly amount to war crimes. In August 2014, the FBI raided his home in Lorton, Virginia, in what he described as retribution for his political activism. In 2016, he appeared in the documentary film National Bird, where he described his crisis of conscience and the FBI raid.

In court, Hale said he accepted punishment for taking the documents and for taking innocent lives. Noting that he is a descendant of Nathan Hale, executed for spying on the British for the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War, Hale paraphrased his ancestor's reported last words, saying, "I have but this one life to give in service of my country."




When I post this on a liberal board, they dismiss it because its Obama.

He used to have strong fan following. To give credit where due, shortly after being called "Founding Father of ISIS" by Trump, he's managed to rebuild his image and get back in community service campaigns:

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/10406556_031121-wls-presidents-ad-council-430avo-vid.jpg?w=800&r=16%3A9
A new ad campaign features former President Obama urging Americans to get COVID-19 vaccines.