NYC Raises Cigarette Purchase Age to 21

[green73]

But the age to go kill and get killed for the empire remains the same.


Opening a new front in the city’s war on smoking, the New York City Council voted Wednesday to hike the legal age for buying cigarettes to 21.

Mayor Bloomberg promised to sign the bill, making it certain that New York will become the first major city in America to adopt such a high age requirement.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/council-oks-raising-smoking-age-18-21-article-1.1502047

[TaftFan]

Oh. I thought it was that way everywhere.

[aGameOfThrones]

unrelated to this thread, but my territory wants to reduce the current BAC of .08 to .05 for safety's sake.

[DamianTV]

Whats next? Are they going to lower the minimum age to join the military to 12?

[presence]

Does that mean its open season on 20 year olds w/ cigarettes?

19-year-old shot 5 times for suspected underage drinking (http://www.copblock.org/18235/19-year-old-shot-5-times-underage-drinking/)

[phill4paul]

Minors should just stop paying taxes.

[alucard13mm]

I think people should smoke all they want, without tax on cigarettes. However, I think they should not burden other people with their future health problems as a result of smoking.

[Brian4Liberty]

Whats next? Are they going to lower the minimum age to join the military to 12?

You beat me to it!

All despots use children as soldiers. And it will be for the police too, not just the military. It's already part of the militarization of the Police. Younger and younger LEOs.

[Flugel89]

I think people should smoke all they want, without tax on cigarettes. However, I think they should not burden other people with their future health problems as a result of smoking.

As a smoker, this is how I see it. Other people aren't responsible for my unhealthy choices.

[GregSarnowski]

This will surely slow down the HUGE black market in New York City where cigarettes go for ~$18 a pack (seriously) in the stores and $5 on the street.

[pcosmar]

I think people should smoke all they want, without tax on cigarettes. However, I think they should not burden other people with their future health problems as a result of smoking.

I'm fine with that,, as long as I am not burdened with anyone's health problems for any reason whatsoever.

Cancer, heart conditions,, back problems, Flu, etc.

[pcosmar]

You beat me to it!

All despots use children as soldiers. And it will be for the police too, not just the military. It's already part of the militarization of the Police. Younger and younger LEOs.
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/tricountytips/2011/06/29/wyoming-graduates-second-class-of-junior-police-camp/
Wyoming graduates second class of Junior Police Camp
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/tricountytips/files/2011/06/TCPkidpolice_54.jpg

[libertywanter]

It is so sad, America is gone. All the people that fought and died young so we can have freedom and this is what we get. Sickening.

[TruckinMike]

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/tricountytips/2011/06/29/wyoming-graduates-second-class-of-junior-police-camp/
Wyoming graduates second class of Junior Police Camp
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/tricountytips/files/2011/06/TCPkidpolice_54.jpg

^^DISGUSTING! Brainwashing little kids. We are in for a heap of trouble in the coming war.

[pcosmar]

It is so sad, America is gone. All the people that fought and died young so we can have freedom and this is what we get. Sickening.

Who?

The last war fought for freedom was the Civil War.. And those fighting for freedom lost.

[Keith and stuff]

Minors should just stop paying taxes.

20, 19 and 18 year olds aren't minors though. You can marry at 13 and join the Army at 17.

http://pbump.net/images/mediaite/marriage/age.gif

[Keith and stuff]

Alabama, Alaska, New Jersey and Utah have raised the purchasing age to 19. I am not surprised that NYC is following AL and AK into this type of statism.

[Root]

^^DISGUSTING! Brainwashing little kids. We are in for a heap of trouble in the coming war.
I realize it's Halloween, but still...

http://i.imgur.com/GyUYgbg.jpg

[phill4paul]

20, 19 and 18 year olds aren't minors though. You can marry at 13 and join the Army at 17.

Understood. But unless one has full and equal rights then my point still stands. Either one is considered an adult with the personal responsibility that goes with it or one is not.

[Keith and stuff]

Understood. But unless one has full and equal rights then my point still stands. Either one is considered an adult with the personal responsibility that goes with it or one is not.

You cannot run for President until 35 so...

[phill4paul]

You cannot run for President until 35 so...

Understood. Either one has full and equal rights and the responsibility that goes with it or one does not.

[dannno]

When the tobacco industrial complex has been putting phosphorus fertilizers with radiation on all of the tobacco for the last 80 years, is it any wonder people get cancer from smoking cigarettes?


^This statement needs to be made before people say stuff about tobacco users burdening other people with their health problems!!

[donnay]

Whats next? Are they going to lower the minimum age to join the military to 12?

They are using the BSA for this very purpose, IMO.

[CaseyJones]

Age raised to 21 for Tobacco, but not bongs

http://nypost.com/2013/10/31/tobacco-age-raised-to-21-but-still-18-for-weed-bongs/


What a bunch of butt-heads!

The City Council voted Wednesday to raise the age for buying tobacco and e-cigarettes from 18 to 21 — without bothering to restrict the sale of pipes and bongs that are used to smoke marijuana.

So while young adults won’t be able to legally purchase coffin nails, they’ll still be able to blow their minds with weed.

The anti-smoking legislation — part of Mayor Bloomberg’s war on Big Tobacco — is supposed to keep kids from getting hooked on the cancer-causing habit. But more teens currently smoke pot than cigarettes, according to the federal government’s National Institute on Drug Abuse.

In its latest annual survey, 23 percent of high-school seniors reported getting high in the past month, while only 17 percent said they had puffed on cigarettes, an all-time low.

Under state law, selling pot paraphernalia is illegal, but retailers get around the ban by posting signs saying their wares are intended for tobacco use only.

[jonhowe]

Age raised to 21 for Tobacco, but not bongs

http://nypost.com/2013/10/31/tobacco-age-raised-to-21-but-still-18-for-weed-bongs/

Pieces of glass should not have any age restrictions at all. It's a piece of glass. The one under my night stand is, uh, for decoration.

[pcosmar]

Age raised to 21 for Tobacco, but not bongs

http://nypost.com/2013/10/31/tobacco-age-raised-to-21-but-still-18-for-weed-bongs/

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcedwvDHDG1qzgmimo1_500.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/Lena_dee24/DSC_00094.jpg

EF em

[jbauer]

unrelated to this thread, but my territory wants to reduce the current BAC of .08 to .05 for safety's sake.

They need to do something to collect the taxes they're not paying because of the decrease in cigarette tax.

[jonhowe]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcedwvDHDG1qzgmimo1_500.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/Lena_dee24/DSC_00094.jpg

EF em

:)

Memories

[Christian Liberty]

So does this mean I should be able to act like a kid until I'm 35? Cool:p

[cajuncocoa]

So does this mean I should be able to act like a kid until I'm 35? Cool:p

Don't stop acting like a kid when you're 35....you'll still have a lot of living to do, and acting one's age is sometimes overrated. :D

[jkob]

slinging cigarettes was is already good money for a young kid, you'll see even more now

[Keith and stuff]

This is excellent news for New Hampshire businesses. NY is the state where the highest percentage of smokes come from out of state. NH is the state where the highest percentage of smokes are sold to out of staters, because the price of smokes are so darn low in NH. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?124976-101-Reasons-to-move-to-New-Hampshire&p=4832746&viewfull=1#post4832746

[presence]

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22 hours agoRisingPatriot
What is the point of 18 being the age for an "adult"?

You can vote, go die in some crappy war, be legally tried AS an adult... but you can't have a beer and a smoke? Does anyone else think the logic behind that is pretty damn stupid?


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/council-oks-raising-smoking-age-18-21-article-1.1502047#ixzz2jLFsaiuq




The thing that wasn't' clear in the article to me:

So if you're over 18 and purchase outside of NYC, can you get "busted" for smoking in NYC underage?!?

[MichaelDavis]

You cannot run for President until 35 so...

The requirements for president are specifically stated in the Constitution. Since the age of smoking and drinking is not mentioned in the Constitution, 18-20 year olds should be covered under the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States".

[DamianTV]

I think the Real Goal is to make Tobacco completely Illegal so they can have a whole new War on Drugs, and it is planned to be a total failure from the start. More Laws means more Victims of Govt.