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AuH20
10-29-2013, 10:15 AM
Easily one of the most profound segments Beck has ever done, since it touches on the an entrenched tyranny which has stretched back 110 years!! Political acolytes like to shift blame on recent events which include the ascent of Obama, when the entire Chimera consisting of Progressive, Globalist and Corporate heads has essentially set the course of the nation on autopilot for the entire last century. This has never been OUR country. We just pay rent and work the land. It is theirs, but that may be coming to an end.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/10/25/incredible-charlie-chaplin-audio-the-great-dictator/


Glenn then made a bold declaration: Don’t ever let anyone tell you the United States is over. In fact, in Glenn’s opinion, our country is not over, it has actually just begun. Why?

“For the last 110 years, no one really understood, nor did they pay attention to what was really happening. The progressives said, ‘We are communists. We agree with the communist ideals, but we don’t agree with revolution. We’re Americans and we don’t agree with revolution.’ That was the difference… And we forgot and we didn’t listen. And they wormed their way into our universities,” Glenn said. “When our own president, Woodrow Wilson said, ‘Finally, the people of Russia can truly be free,’ the world celebrated and the people who understood liberty went to sleep. They started to believe that some sort of authoritarian rule is better than true freedom.”

We may have fallen asleep, but we have now woken up. As Glenn explained, we have done our homework, and we now understand who these people are and what their end goal is. Eight years ago, under the Bush Administration, Glenn did not fully understand the scope of progressive movement and its influence. He did not realize that the Bush Administration’s policies were part of the problem. But he has woken up and so have you.

“You did your own homework,” Glenn said. “You realized, ‘Oh my gosh, everything that I thought I believed is wrong. Everything I thought I knew is wrong.’ You had courage.”

“The only things worth saying are the things that nobody will say. Those people that knew we were corrupt and we were on the wrong path. Those were the people ringing the bell. ‘You cannot do the Patriot Act because it will turn into something.’ And the rest of us were stupid. And the rest of us said, ‘No, we trust that guy.’ We were foolish,” Glenn admitted. “The United States of America, eight years ago could have been destroyed because we didn’t know what it was, and we didn’t know what the real disease was. We didn’t know what the problem was. We didn’t know how we lost liberty. We didn’t even know what real liberty was. We were slaves under the state and we didn’t even know it.”


The way Glenn sees it, we are on the eve of destruction – but we are also on the eve of a rebirth.

“We’re on the eve of destruction. This country is about to be destroyed in this way: The progressive, utopian, collective, socialist state of America is going to be destroyed. It will be destroyed,” Glenn said. “[But] your country is about to be reborn. It’s not destroyed. It’s not going to look anything like it looks now. It’s not.”

“It’s going to be a lot of work. Our life is going to change. Our country is going to change,” he continued. “But God didn’t have anyone to entrust the country to until now. It couldn’t destroy itself because there weren’t millions of Americans all around the country that understood where we went wrong, so they could never put it back together again,” he continued. “Don’t you ever, ever, ever say things that are not true like, ‘the United States of America is over,’ because the United States of America is about to be reborn. It was over 110 years ago. We’re on the verge of finding it again.”

ravedown
10-29-2013, 10:20 AM
We’re on the verge of finding it again.” "with the help of president ted cruz."

cajuncocoa
10-29-2013, 10:23 AM
I guess you could say it's only been 110 years of tyranny, unless you count what happened to Southern states during Reconstruction. Wake me up when Beck is ready to talk about that.

AuH20
10-29-2013, 10:23 AM
"with the help of president ted cruz."

Deep down Beck knows that this will not be rectified politically. At this late stage, political goals are for merely communication purposes. There is no saving the U.S.S.A.

AuH20
10-29-2013, 10:25 AM
I guess you could say it's only been 110 years of tyranny, unless you count what happened to Southern states during Reconstruction. Wake me up when Beck is ready to talk about that.

There were no alphabet agencies during Reconstruction. No New Deal which includes Wickard v. Filburn. No income tax on labor. No Federal Reserve. I'd give my right arm to go back to the 1890s. Lincoln was an amateur compared to the individuals who followed him.

AuH20
10-29-2013, 10:41 AM
Excerpt taken from a 1909 NYT editorial foreshadowing our grim fate to come:

http://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/screen-shot-2013-10-29-at-9-09-24-am.png

jkr
10-29-2013, 11:30 AM
+REP 4 BECK BUMP

so am i still a terrorist glenn?

FindLiberty
10-29-2013, 11:37 AM
Would it help to start painting a (verbal) picture of re-construction (of a limited, constitutional republic featuring sound money) and show some of the advantages a free society could (once again) offer? http://wallpaperstag.net/wallpapers/the_phoenix_bird-1920x1200.jpg

cajuncocoa
10-29-2013, 11:55 AM
There were no alphabet agencies during Reconstruction. No New Deal which includes Wickard v. Filburn. No income tax on labor. No Federal Reserve. I'd give my right arm to go back to the 1890s. Lincoln was an amateur compared to the individuals who followed him.

Or you could say Lincoln taught those who followed him everything they needed to know.

AuH20
10-29-2013, 12:00 PM
Or you could say Lincoln taught those who followed him everything they needed to know.

Lincoln broke the seal, so to speak, on outright lack of fidelity to the U.S. Constitution. But what has been rolled out since the 1860s, makes Lincoln appear tame in comparison. The real pivotal moment occurred when the Death Star become fully operational with the creation of the Federal Reserve as well as introduction of the critical funding mechanism for the modern superstate, being the progressive income tax.

RonPaulFanInGA
10-29-2013, 12:29 PM
I always wondered how Lincoln would have governed after the war ended, if he would have been more or less vengeful than Johnson. Too bad (?) he got shot in the head.

cajuncocoa
10-29-2013, 12:35 PM
Lincoln broke the seal, so to speak, on outright lack of fidelity to the U.S. Constitution. But what has been rolled out since the 1860s, makes Lincoln appear tame in comparison. The real pivotal moment occurred when the Death Star become fully operational with the creation of the Federal Reserve as well as introduction of the critical funding mechanism for the modern superstate, being the progressive income tax.

Yes, of course...it always continues to get worse and worse. I'm only pointing out that it didn't begin 110 years ago (as Beck suggests)...it was longer ago than that. But that it continued to get worse is not up for argument with me...there's no question it did, and continues to do so every damned day.

Edit to add: as you said, Lincoln broke the seal to violate the Constitution. Once that candle got lit, all bets were off for everyone and everything that came after.

Cutlerzzz
10-29-2013, 12:55 PM
Lincoln killed 2-3% of the US population, suspended freedom of speech and the press, suspended habeus corpus, implemented the income tax, the Banking Acts of 1863 and 64, took away the right of secession, deported and arrested Supreme Court Justices/Congressman/Senators, and you call his actions tame?

AuH20
10-29-2013, 01:08 PM
Lincoln killed 2-3% of the US population, suspended freedom of speech and the press, suspended habeus corpus, implemented the income tax, the Banking Acts of 1863 and 64, took away the right of secession, deported and arrested Supreme Court Justices/Congressman/Senators, and you call his actions tame?

Lincoln didn't have the FBI, CIA, IRS, ATF & NSA at his fingers. Interstate commerce was still unregulated. There was no income tax on labor implemented. No entitlement programs set in place. Life after Reconstruction wasn't too bad, until the 1900s. And then the tyranny became institutionalized and self-sustainable in the contemporary form. Yes, Lincoln made some outrageous decisions, but we're talking about a completely different animal here. The U.S. Government in 1860s say compared to the nearly unrecognizable government found in the 1940s.

jmdrake
10-29-2013, 01:08 PM
I guess you could say it's only been 110 years of tyranny, unless you count what happened to Southern states during Reconstruction. Wake me up when Beck is ready to talk about that.

Well Woodrow Wilson was willing to talk about the "evils of reconstruction" (he thought the greatest movie ever made was "The Klansman") and yet look what he did? And yes, I know not all ex-confederates were klansman. But the heros of that movie were all fighting against reconstruction. And FTR, Lincoln was dead before reconstruction started in earnest.

jmdrake
10-29-2013, 01:10 PM
I always wondered how Lincoln would have governed after the war ended, if he would have been more or less vengeful than Johnson. Too bad (?) he got shot in the head.

Johnson wasn't vengeful. The "radical republicans" were. And southern Democrat Andrew Jackson would have hung all secessionists as traitors had the south seceded when he was president.

pcosmar
10-29-2013, 01:15 PM
It can't rise from the ashes,, till there are ashes to rise from.

@notholdingmybreath

jmdrake
10-29-2013, 01:15 PM
Back to the OP, I wonder if Beck realizes the irony of attacking Woodrow Wilson for being gleeful that the autocratic czar of Russia was overthrown, when he (Beck) was gleeful at the overthrow of Saddam? Really, when our we going to learn about the unintended (or intended) consequences of meddling in the affairs of others? The overthrow of Saddam brought in an Islamic, Sharia law supporting, Shiite government that made, for the first time in modern history, Islam the "official" religion of Iraq. That's everything Beck supposedly is against. Okay Beck. Glad you agree (finally) that the Patriot Act was a mistake. Are you going to agree that the war in Iraq was a mistake as well?

kcchiefs6465
10-29-2013, 01:21 PM
We have been on a downward slope since the ratification of the Constitution. Some periods obviously more tyrannical than others.

Google "Matthew Lyon."

HOLLYWOOD
10-29-2013, 01:27 PM
Abraham Lincoln's 750,000 DEAD Americans...so many War Crimes by today's standard, oh unless you're the victor, then whitewash it all, rewrite history. Speilberg's garbage movies, then all the books pushed by propaganda media to best sellers, then the next round of MSMedia airwaves push the lies, it's a tightly knitted "klan" those Marxists, very clever executed manipulation on history and brainwashing.

Has Beck ever issued a public apology to Ron Paul "Guy Faukes"... "Money Bomb"... Terrorist donation supporters?


Send Beck to his sacred home of Israel he so adores. I hear they're doing pretty good, with about $10-12 Billion per year in US taxpayer support/trade per year and billions more to the Apartheid State, that leeches from other countries, like, Canada, UK, France, Germany, etc... enough of Beck's dribble.

Ender
10-29-2013, 01:44 PM
Lincoln didn't have the FBI, CIA, IRS, ATF & NSA at his fingers. Interstate commerce was still unregulated. There was no income tax on labor implemented. No entitlement programs set in place. Life after Reconstruction wasn't too bad, until the 1900s. And then the tyranny became institutionalized and self-sustainable in the contemporary form. Yes, Lincoln made some outrageous decisions, but we're talking about a completely different animal here. The U.S. Government in 1860s say compared to the nearly unrecognizable government found in the 1940s.


Lincoln set the regime in place and everyone was made a slave to the empire because of him and his cronies. The united States of America became the incorporated United States because of Lincoln.

Ender
10-29-2013, 01:46 PM
Abraham Lincoln's 750,000 DEAD Americans...so many War Crimes by today's standard, oh unless you're the victor, then whitewash it all, rewrite history. Speilberg's garbage movies, then all the books pushed by propaganda media to best sellers, then the next round of MSMedia airwaves push the lies, it's a tightly knitted "klan" those Marxists, very clever executed manipulation on history and brainwashing.

Has Beck ever issued a public apology to Ron Paul "Guy Faukes"... "Money Bomb"... Terrorist donation supporters?


Send Beck to his sacred home of Israel he so adores. I hear they're doing pretty good, with about $10-12 Billion per year in US taxpayer support/trade per year and billions more to the Apartheid State, that leeches from other countries, like, Canada, UK, France, Germany, etc... enough of Beck's dribble.

Nope. Beck has never apologized.

His job was to turn RP and his supporters into crazy kooks in the public POV and insure that Ron Paul went nowhere.

Danke
10-29-2013, 01:56 PM
There was no income tax on labor implemented.

Look up the Revenue Act of 1862. The first income tax law was passed during the administration of Abraham Lincoln. During the Civil War, a person with federally connected earnings from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%. Those with incomes of more than $10,000 paid taxes at a higher rate. It was never repealed, though it has been re-enacted several times with more modern wording.

erowe1
10-29-2013, 01:57 PM
Deep down Beck knows that this will not be rectified politically. At this late stage, political goals are for merely communication purposes. There is no saving the U.S.S.A.

Deep down?

How in the world could anyone possibly know anything about what Beck believes deep down? Does he even have a deep down?

Demigod
10-29-2013, 02:16 PM
If Beck thinks that this is the pinnacle of big government or that Americans will somehow gather around and rise like a phoenix from the ashes he should pass on what ever he has been drinking/smoking.

1.You may have a welfare state that even many European countries could only dream off,but you are no where near the totalitarian government on the home front as you think you are.The totalitarian home front comes into play after the revolution ( as he noted in his article).At the moment you have a crony capitalist government,when it fails and everything is in chaos than the revolution begins and there is but one end and that is total carnage no matter which side wins ( either the totalitarians or the other side,sometimes both sides are totalitarian and you are f.... ).And that welfare state will fuel the totalitarians like gasoline.

2. I don't consider Americans generally as a weak people but that rise of the phoenix from the ashes scenario will most likely be someone pissing on the ashes because first you have the massive welfare class that I wrote about above fueling the totalitarians which will promise them heaven and deliver them to the butcher shop.You have not had a war at home for 150+ years, a mentality is needed to survive such a thing ( because no one ever wins at the end ).

And everyone who thinks that escaping the cities would do them any good is also dreaming,that is like thinking that you could escape the revolution in Russia by hiding a few hundred km out of the city .In the end the totalitarians will cement their power and they will come for you in your little house.



Deep down Beck knows that this will not be rectified politically. At this late stage, political goals are for merely communication purposes. There is no saving the U.S.S.A.

This is hardly a USSA just a crony capitalist country like the corrupt aristocracies in Europe in the begging of the 20 century .The totalitarians and the USSA or the fouth reich or what ever the dictator had in plan comes than you will see what totalitarian is.

erowe1
10-29-2013, 02:23 PM
If Beck thinks that this is the pinnacle of big government or that Americans will somehow gather around and rise like a phoenix from the ashes he should pass on what ever he has been drinking/smoking.

Here's where he's coming from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy

Demigod
10-29-2013, 02:40 PM
Here's where he's coming from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy


that the Mormons would send missionaries to "gather the honest in heart from among the Pale Horse, or people of the United States, to stand by the Constitution of the United States as it was given by the inspiration of God."

This is the thing that you simply do not have to survive a totalitarian revolution.You do not control a region,or represent a culture/people.You have to have some little corner that you defend and expand upon,in my opinion a USA revolution will be a massacre of epic proportions run on all sides by dictators and fueled by your weakness as a nation.

cajuncocoa
10-29-2013, 03:05 PM
Well Woodrow Wilson was willing to talk about the "evils of reconstruction" (he thought the greatest movie ever made was "The Klansman") and yet look what he did? And yes, I know not all ex-confederates were klansman. But the heros of that movie were all fighting against reconstruction. And FTR, Lincoln was dead before reconstruction started in earnest.Random thoughts about your post:




Most ex-Confederates probably either were Klansmen or sympathized with them.
Very few would even think of defending slavery or racism today, but the South still had every right to secede.
Woodrow Wilson was another evil president, but not the first evil president.
Fighting against evil is not a good reason to trash the Constitution.

heavenlyboy34
10-29-2013, 03:19 PM
We have been on a downward slope since the ratification of the Constitution. Some periods obviously more tyrannical than others.

Google "Matthew Lyon."
Thread winnar.

Aratus
10-29-2013, 04:28 PM
everything after the McKinley Administration is the 110 years Glen Beck refers to?

jmdrake
10-29-2013, 04:44 PM
Random thoughts about your post:

And a few random responses. ;)




Most ex-Confederates probably either were Klansmen or sympathized with them.


Probably. I try not to hold that against them.



Very few would even think of defending slavery or racism today, but the South still had every right to secede.


I think someone answered this well in another thread by saying "Your right to secede is equal to your ability to win." I have a right to secede from Tennessee. I probably wouldn't be successful.



Woodrow Wilson was another evil president, but not the first evil president.


Agreed. Lincoln wasn't either.



Fighting against evil is not a good reason to trash the Constitution.


Agree. Though someone in this thread has already declared the Constitution itself evil.

Still, one has to wonder the practicality of these types of discussions. Is it always necessary whenever someone talks about what they don't like about president X to say "Well president Y was bad too!"?

Edit: Correction on the constitution. Someone said "We've been on a downward slope since the ratification of the Constitution." That could either mean the Constitution put us on a downward slope, or that the Constitution was our high water mark and ever since people have been undermining it.

AuH20
10-29-2013, 04:49 PM
We have been on a downward slope since the ratification of the Constitution. Some periods obviously more tyrannical than others.

Google "Matthew Lyon."

Yes, all pacts are susceptible to the atrophy of human greed from the minute they are conceived. I suspect the next great document will be ravaged as well by time and apathy, & the cycle will repeat again. From bondage to liberty to tyranny...............and back around again.

Aratus
10-29-2013, 05:12 PM
I guess you could say it's only been 110 years of tyranny, unless you count what happened to Southern states during Reconstruction. Wake me up when Beck is ready to talk about that.


There were no alphabet agencies during Reconstruction. No New Deal which includes Wickard v. Filburn. No income tax on labor. No Federal Reserve. I'd give my right arm to go back to the 1890s. Lincoln was an amateur compared to the individuals who followed him.


Excerpt taken from a 1909 NYT editorial foreshadowing our grim fate to come:

http://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/screen-shot-2013-10-29-at-9-09-24-am.png


Or you could say Lincoln taught those who followed him everything they needed to know.


Lincoln broke the seal, so to speak, on outright lack of fidelity to the U.S. Constitution. But what has been rolled out since the 1860s, makes Lincoln appear tame in comparison. The real pivotal moment occurred when the Death Star become fully operational with the creation of the Federal Reserve as well as introduction of the critical funding mechanism for the modern superstate, being the progressive income tax.


I always wondered how Lincoln would have governed after the war ended, if he would have been more or less vengeful than Johnson. Too bad (?) he got shot in the head.


Yes, of course...it always continues to get worse and worse. I'm only pointing out that it didn't begin 110 years ago (as Beck suggests)...it was longer ago than that. But that it continued to get worse is not up for argument with me...there's no question it did, and continues to do so every damned day.

Edit to add: as you said, Lincoln broke the seal to violate the Constitution. Once that candle got lit, all bets were off for everyone and everything that came after.


Lincoln killed 2-3% of the US population, suspended freedom of speech and the press, suspended habeus corpus, implemented the income tax, the Banking Acts of 1863 and 64, took away the right of secession, deported and arrested Supreme Court Justices/Congressman/Senators, and you call his actions tame?


Lincoln didn't have the FBI, CIA, IRS, ATF & NSA at his fingers. Interstate commerce was still unregulated. There was no income tax on labor implemented. No entitlement programs set in place. Life after Reconstruction wasn't too bad, until the 1900s. And then the tyranny became institutionalized and self-sustainable in the contemporary form. Yes, Lincoln made some outrageous decisions, but we're talking about a completely different animal here. The U.S. Government in 1860s say compared to the nearly unrecognizable government found in the 1940s.


Well Woodrow Wilson was willing to talk about the "evils of reconstruction" (he thought the greatest movie ever made was "The Klansman") and yet look what he did? And yes, I know not all ex-confederates were klansman. But the heros of that movie were all fighting against reconstruction. And FTR, Lincoln was dead before reconstruction started in earnest.


Johnson wasn't vengeful. The "radical republicans" were. And southern Democrat Andrew Jackson would have hung all secessionists as traitors had the south seceded when he was president.


It can't rise from the ashes,, till there are ashes to rise from.

@notholdingmybreath


Back to the OP, I wonder if Beck realizes the irony of attacking Woodrow Wilson for being gleeful that the autocratic czar of Russia was overthrown, when he (Beck) was gleeful at the overthrow of Saddam? Really, when our we going to learn about the unintended (or intended) consequences of meddling in the affairs of others? The overthrow of Saddam brought in an Islamic, Sharia law supporting, Shiite government that made, for the first time in modern history, Islam the "official" religion of Iraq. That's everything Beck supposedly is against. Okay Beck. Glad you agree (finally) that the Patriot Act was a mistake. Are you going to agree that the war in Iraq was a mistake as well?


We have been on a downward slope since the ratification of the Constitution. Some periods obviously more tyrannical than others.

Google "Matthew Lyon."


Abraham Lincoln's 750,000 DEAD Americans...so many War Crimes by today's standard, oh unless you're the victor, then whitewash it all, rewrite history. Speilberg's garbage movies, then all the books pushed by propaganda media to best sellers, then the next round of MSMedia airwaves push the lies, it's a tightly knitted "klan" those Marxists, very clever executed manipulation on history and brainwashing.

Has Beck ever issued a public apology to Ron Paul "Guy Faukes"... "Money Bomb"... Terrorist donation supporters?


Send Beck to his sacred home of Israel he so adores. I hear they're doing pretty good, with about $10-12 Billion per year in US taxpayer support/trade per year and billions more to the Apartheid State, that leeches from other countries, like, Canada, UK, France, Germany, etc... enough of Beck's dribble.


Lincoln set the regime in place and everyone was made a slave to the empire because of him and his cronies. The united States of America became the incorporated United States because of Lincoln.


Look up the Revenue Act of 1862. The first income tax law was passed during the administration of Abraham Lincoln. During the Civil War, a person with federally connected earnings from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%. Those with incomes of more than $10,000 paid taxes at a higher rate. It was never repealed, though it has been re-enacted several times with more modern wording.


If Beck thinks that this is the pinnacle of big government or that Americans will somehow gather around and rise like a phoenix from the ashes he should pass on what ever he has been drinking/smoking.

1.You may have a welfare state that even many European countries could only dream off,but you are no where near the totalitarian government on the home front as you think you are.The totalitarian home front comes into play after the revolution ( as he noted in his article).At the moment you have a crony capitalist government,when it fails and everything is in chaos than the revolution begins and there is but one end and that is total carnage no matter which side wins ( either the totalitarians or the other side,sometimes both sides are totalitarian and you are f.... ).And that welfare state will fuel the totalitarians like gasoline.

2. I don't consider Americans generally as a weak people but that rise of the phoenix from the ashes scenario will most likely be someone pissing on the ashes because first you have the massive welfare class that I wrote about above fueling the totalitarians which will promise them heaven and deliver them to the butcher shop.You have not had a war at home for 150+ years, a mentality is needed to survive such a thing ( because no one ever wins at the end ).

And everyone who thinks that escaping the cities would do them any good is also dreaming,that is like thinking that you could escape the revolution in Russia by hiding a few hundred km out of the city .In the end the totalitarians will cement their power and they will come for you in your little house.




This is hardly a USSA just a crony capitalist country like the corrupt aristocracies in Europe in the begging of the 20 century .The totalitarians and the USSA or the fouth reich or what ever the dictator had in plan comes than you will see what totalitarian is.


Here's where he's coming from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy


This is the thing that you simply do not have to survive a totalitarian revolution.You do not control a region,or represent a culture/people.You have to have some little corner that you defend and expand upon,in my opinion a USA revolution will be a massacre of epic proportions run on all sides by dictators and fueled by your weakness as a nation.


Random thoughts about your post:




Most ex-Confederates probably either were Klansmen or sympathized with them.
Very few would even think of defending slavery or racism today, but the South still had every right to secede.
Woodrow Wilson was another evil president, but not the first evil president.
Fighting against evil is not a good reason to trash the Constitution.



everything after the McKinley Administration is the 110 years Glen Beck refers to?


jmdrake is very correct about Andrew Johnson. I remember reading a quote where he initially wanted to hang the brighter and more ambitious
minds who brought about the Confederacy in a manner John C. Calhoun would have more than half approved of, because his Eastern Tennesse
"Scalawag" stance had been similar to that of Andrew Jackson on seccession, but that he softened and tried to initiate what he thought to be
Lincoln's plan as a loyal ex~Veep hit with the presidency in full. Andrew Johnson may have pardoned more Confederates than Honest Abe would
ever have dared to when Congress was not in session in the summer of 1865, but if you look close, the battles were over scope and degree. I think
that Andrew Johnson relied heavily on William Seward's take on Lincoln's cabinet meetings, and that he was under pressure to be more severe. The
Radical Republicans in turn after the election of 1868 became disenchanted with President U.S. Grant for a very similar set of reasons in the early 1870s.


this is a tad tangential to the Civil War, dare we ask Glenn Beck if Tagg Romney brings about the prophesy if it skipped over Grandpa George & Mitt???

torchbearer
10-29-2013, 05:20 PM
Well Woodrow Wilson was willing to talk about the "evils of reconstruction" (he thought the greatest movie ever made was "The Klansman") and yet look what he did? And yes, I know not all ex-confederates were klansman. But the heros of that movie were all fighting against reconstruction. And FTR, Lincoln was dead before reconstruction started in earnest.

just to add, Lincoln was not for reconstruction. The fact that he was killed doomed the south to occupation that never ended.

RJB
10-29-2013, 06:29 PM
+ rep to everyone who remembers Beck lying about Ron Paul and calling us terrorist.

Q: Why is our country dying, Glenn Beck asks?

A: Because people trust whores like you, Beck! Beck tells the truth until it matters. Then he lies and people follow him. He is worse than anyone on MSNBC because his voice actually sways people who believe in liberty.

Someone on this forum called Beck "A friend when you DON'T need him, and a knife in the back when you do."

Although I agree with a lot of what he says, I want to see him with his crocodile tears, begging the American people for forgiveness for selling out and lying about Ron Paul (Debra Medina, etc.) when we had a chance to turn this around!