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aGameOfThrones
10-27-2013, 03:13 PM
1. An ally today may not be an ally tomorrow. Few aspects of the human condition are more fickle than foreign relations. In a famous illustration of how often foreign affairs experts get it wrong, the author Norman Angell in 1909 suggested that war between advanced nations had become obsolete. Just five years later the world was plunged into the most destructive war in history. The story of U.S.-Japan relations is also chastening: a staunch American ally through World War I and for many years after, Japan turned on a dime in the 1930s, and, without so much as an ultimatum, wiped out the American Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor in 1941. In a similarly sudden reversal of geopolitical attitudes, Russia and China were U.S. allies in World War II but by the late 1940s had become dangerous enemies. As for Germany, its claims as a solid American ally are, er, patchy: although during the Cold War, West Germany generally cooperated with the United States in outmaneuvering the Soviet Union, the overall experience of twentieth century German military policy tells a different story.

*2.*Germany has long been unilaterally cultivating a “special relationship” with Communist China. Berlin has cut deals to transfer technology to China. Not the least of these is one to build Airbus 320 planes in China. In return Beijing has granted German exports privileged status in the Chinese market. (Although Airbus is nominally based in France, it is more and more a German operation.) On a per-capita basis, Germany’s exports to China are nearly three times America’s.

3. The German economic system is incompatible with American ideals. The Germans openly use cartels and other restraints on trade to frustrate Washington’s efforts to build a world economy based on free markets. Perhaps the most obvious illustration of the point is the German automotive industry’s bizarre relationship with Japan. Although German cars are almost as completely shut out of the Japanese market as Detroit-made cars (Volkswagen has been allocated a share of just 1 percent in Japan versus nearly 40 percent for Toyota), Germany has long had a policy of keeping its complaints sotto voce and German officials are notable for their silence when the United States tries to combat Japanese non-tariff barriers. There is method in the madness because in return the Japanese have generally eschewed targeting the German market. A central principle of German economic policy is mercantilism and this helps explain why Germany last year ran a bilateral surplus of a whopping $60 billion with the United States.

4. Everybody’s doing it. As the British security expert Richard Aldrich has pointed out, there is a touch of irony in the fact that nations like Germany and France have been complaining about American spying. That’s because these nations have not exactly been shy in their own espionage activities. *Any agreement by America to refrain from spying on allies (and ostensible allies) would be entirely one-sided. Whereas America’s legalistic culture makes it difficult for American officials to deviate from international agreements, in nations with less concern for the rule of law, officials are far less troubled by such scruples. Not the least *such nation is Germany.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2013/10/27/hang-in-there-barack-four-good-reasons-to-keep-bugging-merkels-phone/?partner=yahootix

Brian4Liberty
10-27-2013, 03:52 PM
Shocking! Some scumbag at Forbes advocates Big Brother and aggressive foreign policy.

Brian4Liberty
10-28-2013, 10:58 AM
Juan Williams was espousing this same opinion; i.e. keep spying on Merkel. Authoritarians, statists, sycophants and dedicated members of the cult of personality.

Acala
10-28-2013, 11:07 AM
Excellent! Let them fight each other!

AngryCanadian
10-28-2013, 11:22 AM
LOL look whose talking crap in that Forbes article.

*2.*Germany has long been unilaterally cultivating a “special relationship” with Communist China. Berlin has cut deals to transfer technology to China. Not the least of these is one to build Airbus 320 planes in China. In return Beijing has granted German exports privileged status in the Chinese market. (Although Airbus is nominally based in France, it is more and more a German operation.) On a per-capita basis, Germany’s exports to China are nearly three times America’s.

Tell us again Eamonn Fingleton, whom owns the Chinese world' biggest debt? the American government of course and so what if Germany has a “special relationship” with Communist China?


Whats wrong with that?

Petar
10-28-2013, 11:57 AM
Communism is 'tarded.

HOLLYWOOD
10-28-2013, 12:02 PM
Crony Corporatism of FORBES magazine mouthpiece of propaganda... It all comes down to state/corp. sponsored INDUSTRIAL ESPIONAGE, and US government FASCISM, hidden under the cloak of fighting terrorism.

Op Ed: US government/FEDERAL RESERVE are desperately scared of the US dollar losing the reserve currency of the world. Once that happens, then the US government PONZI/PYRAMID schemes of robbing the people and throwing crumbs back collapses. When that happens, all the dominoes fall.

Petar
10-28-2013, 12:46 PM
Crony Corporatism of FORBES magazine mouthpiece of propaganda... It all comes down to state/corp. sponsored INDUSTRIAL ESPIONAGE, and US government FASCISM, hidden under the cloak of fighting terrorism.

Op Ed: US government/FEDERAL RESERVE are desperately scared of the US dollar losing the reserve currency of the world. Once that happens, then the US government PONZI/PYRAMID schemes of robbing the people and throwing crumbs back collapses. When that happens, all the dominoes fall.

The crazy thing is that you know that there are people within the system who are working towards just that. The whole thing is a controlled demo/implosion that has been engineered in order to usher in solutions that will represent a more "unified" financial/government world.

Interesting times indeed...

AngryCanadian
10-28-2013, 12:48 PM
Communism is 'tarded.

Seems you arent up to speed, the spying on the 35 world leaders has being going since 2002. But you think some Republicans are going to be different from Obama? we shall see about that.

Rand Paul is just one.

Petar
10-28-2013, 12:51 PM
Seems you arent up to speed, the spying on the 35 world leaders has being going since 2002. But you think some Republicans are going to be different from Obama? we shall see about that.

Rand Paul is just one.

Tito was a fartknocker.

AngryCanadian
10-28-2013, 12:53 PM
Tito was a fartknocker.

Just like how great things now are in the New Sarajevo. :rolleyes:
At least in Yugoslavia you had some freedoms compared to now.

Lets not forget the unemployment rate the high crime rate to.

Petar
10-28-2013, 01:35 PM
Just like how great things now are in the New Sarajevo. :rolleyes:
At least in Yugoslavia you had some freedoms compared to now.

Lets not forget the unemployment rate the high crime rate to.

Ok, you win.