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Occam's Banana
10-24-2013, 06:16 PM
h/t Lew Rockwell @ LRC: http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/undermining-the-empire/

Undermining the Empire

Obama wants male Marines to wear “girly hats (http://nypost.com/2013/10/23/obama-wants-marines-to-wear-girly-hats/),” so as to diminish sexual differences. Good luck with that! However, I am looking forward to the new uniforms that are surely to come.

Could political correctness in all its many crazed guises wreck the American imperium? No, but it can help.

FTA: http://nypost.com/2013/10/23/obama-wants-marines-to-wear-girly-hats/

Obama wants Marines to wear "girly" hats

A change to the Marine Corps’ uniform hats could take the hard-nosed Leathernecks from the Halls of Montezuma to the shops of Christopher Street.

Thanks to a plan by President Obama to create a "unisex" look for the Corps, officials are on the verge of swapping out the Marines’ iconic caps - known as "covers" - with a new version that some have derided as so “girly” that they would make the French blush.

"We don’t even have enough funding to buy bullets, and the DoD is pushing to spend $8 million on covers that look like women’s hats!" one senior Marine source fumed to The Post. "The Marines deserve better. It makes them look ridiculous."

The thin new covers have a feminine line that some officials think would make them look just as good on female marines as on males - in keeping with the Obama directive.

"The Marine Corps is being 'encouraged' by DoD to standardize on a unisex/universal dress and service cap," Marine brass noted in an internal memo obtained by The Post.

Male and female Marines currently wear gender-specific caps.

[ ... more at link ...]

Feeding the Abscess
10-24-2013, 06:34 PM
I hope the uniform is made to match.

TaftFan
10-24-2013, 06:35 PM
http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/barack-obama-guide-to-going-green.jpg

phill4paul
10-24-2013, 06:35 PM
I hope the uniform is made to match.

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/84500/New-Gay-Army-Uniform-84900.jpg

Feeding the Abscess
10-24-2013, 06:56 PM
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/84500/New-Gay-Army-Uniform-84900.jpg

That should be the standard issue.

mad cow
10-24-2013, 07:02 PM
Decades ago,when bellbottoms were extremely popular,the Navy decided to do away with them after centuries and modernize.

catfeathers
10-24-2013, 07:22 PM
He's got pretty eyes. :p

XNavyNuke
10-24-2013, 07:23 PM
Decades ago,when bellbottoms were extremely popular,the Navy decided to do away with them after centuries and modernize.

Yes, they picked blue digicam the color of the middle of the Pacific and slightly less flammable than tissue paper.

You spend less time in man-overboard evolutions.

XNN

Dr.3D
10-24-2013, 07:36 PM
Decades ago,when bellbottoms were extremely popular,the Navy decided to do away with them after centuries and modernize.
I remember the "new" uniform. It came out in the late '60s. Those had some sort of plastic in them and when it was burning, it would stick to your skin. You couldn't get it off without pulling it over your head and it was a miserable substitute for the chambray shirt and bell bottoms. As long as they were letting us wear the old uniform, I did so. It was more comfortable and you could actually turn your pant legs up to your knees when swabbing the deck. Those new ones were nasty and didn't look half as good either.

eduardo89
10-24-2013, 07:49 PM
Obama is such a *****.

Dr.3D
10-24-2013, 07:51 PM
Obama is such a *****.
As a football bat.

Antischism
10-24-2013, 07:55 PM
Why are they dubbed "girly" hats, anyway? Is there something specific about the hat that makes it decidedly girly?

Pericles
10-24-2013, 08:58 PM
Why are they dubbed "girly" hats, anyway? Is there something specific about the hat that makes it decidedly girly?

You can ask any Marine - if it is not an 8 point, it is not a cover. QED

angelatc
10-24-2013, 09:04 PM
http://********************************/2013/10/marine_hats.jpg?w=680&h=453&crop=1

Old - left. New - right.

Dr.3D
10-24-2013, 09:06 PM
Yeah, the covers on the right do look like you could actually screw them on.

:D

Christian Liberty
10-24-2013, 09:10 PM
Obama is such a *****.

I support only letting *****s serve in the military. Kick the Christians out, they don't belong there. An evil organization should be made up solely of the unregenerate.

eduardo89
10-24-2013, 09:10 PM
I support only letting *****s serve in the military. Kick the Christians out, they don't belong there. An evil organization should be made up solely of the unregenerate.

Your posts keep getting stupider.

Pericles
10-24-2013, 09:11 PM
Yeah, the covers on the right do look like you could actually screw them on.

:D

Should have gone back to the 1902 model cap:

http://cf.collectorsweekly.com/stories/yw-ZZO0at6e.ad94GeGDFg-smallw.jpg

eduardo89
10-24-2013, 09:13 PM
Might as well just go with a kepi and wave a white flag...or a rainbow flag if Obama is commander in chief.

http://hatguide.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/kepi.jpg

Christian Liberty
10-24-2013, 09:21 PM
Your posts keep getting stupider.

Well, I was kind of kidding about "*****s" (I wouldn't seriously assume that someone was unregenerate just because they're a "*****" either, whatever exactly that means) but I am serious that I'd love to see Christians driven out of the military. There's no way you can justify anything that modern America is doing overseas. Yet many Christians have a love affair with the military. I think if that love affair is ever going to end, the military will have to become anti-Christian first. I hope and pray that it will be so, so that Christians will separate themselves from the anti-family, anti-peace organization known as the US Military.

Henry Rogue
10-24-2013, 09:31 PM
They should go back to the Tricorne and matching muskets.

Saint Vitus
10-24-2013, 09:40 PM
Well, I was kind of kidding about "*****s" (I wouldn't seriously assume that someone was unregenerate just because they're a "*****" either, whatever exactly that means) but I am serious that I'd love to see Christians driven out of the military. There's no way you can justify anything that modern America is doing overseas. Yet many Christians have a love affair with the military. I think if that love affair is ever going to end, the military will have to become anti-Christian first. I hope and pray that it will be so, so that Christians will separate themselves from the anti-family, anti-peace organization known as the US Military.

Committing murder should be enough to steer Christians away. But I guess "Thou Shalt not Kill", is too ambiguous for their tiny brains to comprehend.

goRPaul
10-24-2013, 09:41 PM
It's called the Dan Daly cover. Daly won two Medals of Honor. What's girly about that?

I don't see anything wrong with the new cover. I honestly don't like the cover we have, it's a pain in the ass to get it to look right and transport without ruining the frame. You pretty much have to invest in a cover case.

I just find it sad that no one speaks up about foreign policy, but everyone has something to say about the hats Marines wear to the ball. America, fix yourself.

The Bavarian
10-24-2013, 09:50 PM
new marine motto "we will penetrate all enemies from the rear!"

TonySutton
10-24-2013, 09:53 PM
Never really heard of the president selecting uniforms for the military...

I do remember the Commandant having a pretty strong say so.

donnay
10-24-2013, 09:53 PM
That's alright before too long they will be wearing these...

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001127953/unitednations_xlarge.jpeg

cjm
10-24-2013, 10:04 PM
FedGov out-Onions The Onion again.

fr33
10-24-2013, 10:05 PM
Let them fight naked for all I care.

presence
10-24-2013, 10:12 PM
I just find it sad that no one speaks up about foreign policy, but everyone has something to say about the hats Marines wear to the ball. America, fix yourself.

/thread

I don't give half a shit what it looks like.

Waste of money.


Conspicuous consumption is the spending of money on and the acquiring of luxury goods and services to publicly display economic power — either the buyer’s income or the buyer’s accumulated wealth. More at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspicuous_consumption)


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fr33
10-24-2013, 10:43 PM
Nothing about the uniforms they march in conveys toughness to me. It's fruity from head to toe, whether they shave a few inches off the hat or not. The only thing it conveys to me is obedience and protected class. If they want a tough looking hat get them some trucker caps or cowboy hats.

VIDEODROME
10-24-2013, 10:56 PM
Why not make them dress like a porter when they have to hold Obama's umbrella for him?

mad cow
10-24-2013, 11:08 PM
Why not make them dress like a porter when they have to hold Obama's umbrella for him?

Candygram for Mongo.

enhanced_deficit
10-24-2013, 11:30 PM
Manly girls/girly men.. nything is possible these days.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/gty_gay_marine_life_kiss_nt_120227_wblog.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=y4uVMRS3HA9XAM&tbnid=p-itUtacGpLHtM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2Fblogs%2Fpolitics %2F2012%2F02%2Fhomecoming-photo-of-gay-marine-kissing-boyfriend-goes-viral%2F&ei=kAFqUqzWBdCLkAe_74B4&bvm=bv.55123115,d.eW0&psig=AFQjCNG4WPDe5mS4OlAFoTmRtqSS3zdvDA&ust=1382765321883870)http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Obama_plays_golf.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=A0vdlzICddOYDM&tbnid=68tQW37MOsv-lM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2013%2F08%2F12% 2Fcaption-this-potus-strikes-amusing-pose-while-golfing-on-your-dime%2F&ei=-AFqUuWEJ5KpkAeSsIDQAQ&bvm=bv.55123115,d.eW0&psig=AFQjCNFUPajI8wjD-SrMDoCyY71_5euRXA&ust=1382765415709366)

jdcole
10-24-2013, 11:38 PM
I'll just leave this here.

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-marines-girly-hats-2013-10#ixzz2ihu4PQny

"As a Marine veteran who knows how these changes actually happen, I can tell you the story is 100% B.S. The bottom line: The President doesn't involve himself in what troops happen to be wearing.


But just to make sure, I called Headquarters Marine Corps and a spokesperson confirmed that the process for making changes to Marine uniforms hasn't changed since I last left the service in 2010.


Every year, a board (made up of senior enlisted Marines) meets and goes over things that they may want to change with uniforms. In 2007 for example, the board made a change that outlawed "sleeve" tattoos — and I don't remember thinking that was all President George W. Bush's fault."

Occam's Banana
10-25-2013, 12:20 AM
I'll just leave this here.

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-marines-girly-hats-2013-10#ixzz2ihu4PQny

"As a Marine veteran who knows how these changes actually happen, I can tell you the story is 100% B.S. The bottom line: The President doesn't involve himself in what troops happen to be wearing.

But just to make sure, I called Headquarters Marine Corps and a spokesperson confirmed that the process for making changes to Marine uniforms hasn't changed since I last left the service in 2010.


Every year, a board (made up of senior enlisted Marines) meets and goes over things that they may want to change with uniforms. In 2007 for example, the board made a change that outlawed "sleeve" tattoos — and I don't remember thinking that was all President George W. Bush's fault."

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3829042/lighten-up-francis-o.gif

oyarde
10-25-2013, 12:29 AM
Should have gone back to the 1902 model cap:

http://cf.collectorsweekly.com/stories/yw-ZZO0at6e.ad94GeGDFg-smallw.jpg

I actually like that one , fairly serviceable ; keeps heat from escaping in winter , sheds rain and sun , not too large to catch brush.Still enough visibility for proper call for fire and marksmanship, in a pinch can still dip water with it, not a color that catches/reflects light.Not bad.

libertariantexas
10-25-2013, 12:45 AM
It's called the Dan Daly cover. Daly won two Medals of Honor. What's girly about that?

I don't see anything wrong with the new cover. I honestly don't like the cover we have, it's a pain in the ass to get it to look right and transport without ruining the frame. You pretty much have to invest in a cover case.

I just find it sad that no one speaks up about foreign policy, but everyone has something to say about the hats Marines wear to the ball. America, fix yourself.

We have a winner!

The "new" "girly" cap, as some in the right wing press are calling it, is actually a historic Marine cover that is older than the current version.

Here is a picture of TWO TIME Medal of Honor winner, Sergeant Major Dan Daly, in his "girly" cap:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/DanielDaly.jpg/220px-DanielDaly.jpg

Yeah, he looks like a real "girly" guy. He was still charging machine gun nests single handedly late in World War !, when he was already 45 years old.

Lucky for the right wing press "tough guys" (most of whom probably never served a day in the military), Daly died more than 70 years ago, so he can't give them the righteous ass-whipping they probably deserve.

Philhelm
10-25-2013, 01:04 AM
They should go back to the Tricorne and matching muskets.

No, that's what we should return to. Well, except for the muskets.

DamianTV
10-25-2013, 04:41 AM
http://blogs.birminghammail.co.uk/technobabble/227454_2005173167565_1190701605_32355115_3664980_n .jpg

Caption: Those new hats are fucking ghey!

(Note: Ghey does not mean Gay, it means Retarded)
(Note: Retarded does not mean Mentally Handicapped, it means fucking stupid. As in smart enough but too lazy to figure it out.)

jkr
10-25-2013, 07:07 AM
ALL WARRIORS
SHOULD ONLY WEAR MOHAWKS!
http://www.iflipforfood.com/storage/RoadWarrior1.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=131603 6635329
http://baseball.dailyskew.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/road-warriors.jpg
WADDA RUSH!

oyarde
10-25-2013, 07:52 AM
It's called the Dan Daly cover. Daly won two Medals of Honor. What's girly about that?

I don't see anything wrong with the new cover. I honestly don't like the cover we have, it's a pain in the ass to get it to look right and transport without ruining the frame. You pretty much have to invest in a cover case.

I just find it sad that no one speaks up about foreign policy, but everyone has something to say about the hats Marines wear to the ball. America, fix yourself.
"
Daly's was not white if I recall ? :) Therefore , less "girly " ?lol

Athan
10-25-2013, 08:01 AM
Call me if they are going to wear tutus. Then I'll start to wonder.

Pericles
10-25-2013, 05:47 PM
Never really heard of the president selecting uniforms for the military...

I do remember the Commandant having a pretty strong say so.

US Army Special Forces wear the Green Beret by order of the President.

puppetmaster
10-25-2013, 06:03 PM
They kinda look like a turbin