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AuH20
10-24-2013, 10:49 AM
I hate to go down this cliche route, but this clash is truly good vs evil. Free men vs. the so-called enlightened ones who don't want the plantation shut down anytime soon.

http://www.infowars.com/fort-hood-soldiers-told-christians-tea-partiers-a-radical-terror-threat/


During a pre-deployment briefing, Fort Hood soldiers were told that Christians, Tea Party supporters and anti-abortion activists were a radical terror threat, enemies of America, and that anyone found to be supporting these groups would be subject to discipline under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

That’s the explosive claim from a soldier who attended the half-hour briefing which took place on October 17 and was devoted to how so-called “radical” groups were “tearing the country apart,” the soldier told Fox News, adding that the threat of Islamic terrorism was barely even mentioned.

Despite the fact that another soldier confirmed that threats of punishment were made during the meeting, an official Fort Hood representative denied the allegations.

“I was very shocked and couldn’t believe what I was hearing,” the soldier said. “I felt like my religious liberties, that I risk my life and sacrifice time away from family to fight for, were being taken away.”

According to the soldiers, the counter-intelligence agent who conducted the briefing also said that Christians who protest against abortion were planning to bomb family planning clinics and that the pro-life movement was an example of “radicalization.”

JK/SEA
10-24-2013, 10:59 AM
talk is cheap.....

cliche?....

tod evans
10-24-2013, 11:07 AM
During a pre-deployment briefing, Fort Hood soldiers were told that Christians, Tea Party supporters and anti-abortion activists were a radical terror threat, enemies of America, and that anyone found to be supporting these groups would be subject to discipline under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Jump Judy.

HOLLYWOOD
10-24-2013, 11:07 AM
Cultural Marxism... the gameplan from the beginning. Use the idiot Socialists as the pawns to push the control into the elitist hands of the Marxist/Leninists dictators. Now we have political officers indoctrinating the military members of today and BTW, former KGB defector Yuri Bezemenov called it... 'ahead of schedule'.

UCMJ gives every member equal slavery in a so-called 'socialistic military society' when I heard low ranking enlisted members parroting talking points from the indoctrination centers about protecting freedom more than ever(OVERSEAS), I knew this country is doomed to the 'Land of Oz's slavery'.

YOU ARE FREE... to do what we tell you! YOU ARE FREE... to do what we tell you! YOU ARE FREE... to do what we tell you!

ravedown
10-24-2013, 11:14 AM
wait...people are still sourcing infowars?

AuH20
10-24-2013, 11:17 AM
How can you shut down a program that allegedly never existed? These people are pathetic.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/10/24/update-army-halts-training-program-labeling-christians-extremists

MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2
10-24-2013, 11:17 AM
Christians? I thought they used that for recruiting, particularly with respect to zionism.

Acala
10-24-2013, 11:18 AM
This is bull.

Miss Annie
10-24-2013, 11:19 AM
I have read that the military have been threatened with punishment if they are caught donating to any Christian or tea party groups.

AuH20
10-24-2013, 11:25 AM
I have read that the military have been threatened with punishment if they are caught donating to any Christian or tea party groups.

Can't worship both the federal government and Jesus at the same time. Off to the lime pits with you.

Elias Graves
10-24-2013, 11:35 AM
Christians? I thought they used that for recruiting, particularly with respect to zionism.
No longer. Obama is purging them from the military. He knows who will be loyal to him and who will be loyal to their country.

Paulbot99
10-24-2013, 11:45 AM
I read that fox article. If the military is compiling a list of domestic "threats", it is almost certainly the enemies of the elite.

Antischism
10-24-2013, 12:31 PM
Yeah, I'd take that article with a grain of salt.

squarepusher
10-24-2013, 01:00 PM
I like when Christians try to claim they are a minority who are discriminated against.

Elias Graves
10-24-2013, 01:05 PM
I like when Christians try to claim they are a minority who are discriminated against.

Thats frightening. Why should anybody be discriminated against?

AuH20
10-24-2013, 01:09 PM
I like when Christians try to claim they are a minority who are discriminated against.

Christians are easy targets because they turn the other cheek. Don't see Christians blowing themselves up after someone places a crucifix in pee. Or when an artist depicts Jesus in an unflattering light. Christians are pilloried in popular culture as well as by the federal government. I'm not a fan of the megachurch congregations, but real Christians (think of Chuck Baldwin and others like him) definitely have a target on their back.

acptulsa
10-24-2013, 01:22 PM
I like when Christians try to claim they are a minority who are discriminated against.

Hate to rudely wake you from your slumber, but it's a definite minority who have accumulated enough ill-gotten power in this nation, and have divided the populace against ourselves sufficiently well, to be in a position to discriminate against the vast majority.

That isn't just our selling point. That's kind of why most of us are here.

squarepusher
10-24-2013, 03:02 PM
Christians are easy targets because they turn the other cheek. Don't see Christians blowing themselves up after someone places a crucifix in pee. Or when an artist depicts Jesus in an unflattering light. Christians are pilloried in popular culture as well as by the federal government. I'm not a fan of the megachurch congregations, but real Christians (think of Chuck Baldwin and others like him) definitely have a target on their back.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'

Occam's Banana
10-24-2013, 03:16 PM
During a pre-deployment briefing, Fort Hood soldiers were told that Christians, Tea Party supporters and anti-abortion activists were a radical terror threat, enemies of America, and that anyone found to be supporting these groups would be subject to discipline under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Murray Rothbard & Ron Paul are my imams. The Ludwig von Mises Institute is my madrassa.
Therefore, I must be a "radical terror threat" and an "enemy of America." Come and get me, assholes ...

Cutlerzzz
10-24-2013, 03:20 PM
I hate to go down this cliche route, but this clash is truly good vs evil. Free men vs. the so-called enlightened ones who don't want the plantation shut down anytime soon.

http://www.infowars.com/fort-hood-soldiers-told-christians-tea-partiers-a-radical-terror-threat/

He sacrificed his freedom to the government and now feels the government is taking it away? There is a shocker.

Cutlerzzz
10-24-2013, 03:23 PM
Christians are easy targets because they turn the other cheek. Don't see Christians blowing themselves up after someone places a crucifix in pee. Or when an artist depicts Jesus in an unflattering light. Christians are pilloried in popular culture as well as by the federal government. I'm not a fan of the megachurch congregations, but real Christians (think of Chuck Baldwin and others like him) definitely have a target on their back.

I do see largely Christian militaries killing Muslims in the hundreds of thousands, the millions when factoring in indirect deaths.

AuH20
10-24-2013, 06:02 PM
I do see largely Christian militaries killing Muslims in the hundreds of thousands, the millions when factoring in indirect deaths.

Not in the name of Christ. Huge difference as opposed to all the well-documented appeals to Allah. This is just business.

AuH20
10-24-2013, 06:03 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'

FIXED

"The petrodollar told me to end the tyranny in Iraq"

ROFL. There is only one religious driven extremist faction and it's not in the West. The US and NATO are common thieves.

fr33
10-24-2013, 08:41 PM
Not in the name of Christ. Huge difference as opposed to all the well-documented appeals to Allah. This is just business.

That's one opinion. I know quite a few Republican voters who view the current wars in middle east since 911 as holy wars.

Miss Annie
10-24-2013, 09:37 PM
That's one opinion. I know quite a few Republican voters who view the current wars in middle east since 911 as holy wars.

Yes.. It is called Jihad. The US has been participating in this for years being Saudi's bitch.... Just as they expected us to be in Syria.

dillo
10-24-2013, 09:47 PM
Christians are easy targets because they turn the other cheek. Don't see Christians blowing themselves up after someone places a crucifix in pee. Or when an artist depicts Jesus in an unflattering light. Christians are pilloried in popular culture as well as by the federal government. I'm not a fan of the megachurch congregations, but real Christians (think of Chuck Baldwin and others like him) definitely have a target on their back.

The westboro baptist church and the history of ireland would like to have a word with that statement. Everyone has extremeists

amy31416
10-24-2013, 10:05 PM
That's one opinion. I know quite a few Republican voters who view the current wars in middle east since 911 as holy wars.

As do I. The head of Blackwater was one of them too.

To ignore this is absolutely foolish.

amy31416
10-24-2013, 10:07 PM
The westboro baptist church and the history of ireland would like to have a word with that statement. Everyone has extremeists

Our extremists just have other people's ignorant children doing the killing for them and other people paying for it.

How's that for cowardly?

fr33
10-24-2013, 10:10 PM
Yes.. It is called Jihad. The US has been participating in this for years being Saudi's bitch.... Just as they expected us to be in Syria.

I'm talking about the people that support Pamella Gellar's point of view that the US should war all of the Muslim nations. A Crusade rather than a Jihad.

amy31416
10-24-2013, 10:16 PM
I hate to go down this cliche route, but this clash is truly good vs evil. Free men vs. the so-called enlightened ones who don't want the plantation shut down anytime soon.

http://www.infowars.com/fort-hood-soldiers-told-christians-tea-partiers-a-radical-terror-threat/

I don't understand why people like you who believe such things are in this country, sitting on your ass, rather than over there killing the fuck out of Muslims.

Not important enough to you to take any action, just important enough to you to try to convince other people to write the checks and send their children for your repulsive, unethical, unChristian holy war.

You make me sick and you're a coward.

pcosmar
10-24-2013, 11:16 PM
wait...people are still sourcing infowars?

Yes.. as well as others.

http://lonelyconservative.com/2013/10/army-training-christians-tea-party-members-are-threats-to-nation/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/24/fort-hood-army-warned-them-tea-party-christians/
Seems most (including Infowars) are sourcing Fox News. on this particular story.. But it has been covered by many,, and in several articles for the last few years.

This one from Chuck Baldwin a few years back,
ARMY REPORT SAYS CHRISTIANS THREATEN US FOREIGN POLICY
http://newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin582.htm

And then there is this Crap
THE THREAT OF AN EVANGELIZED US MILITARY
http://instituteforscienceandhumanvalues.com/articles/religious%20discrimination%20military.htm

Miss Annie
10-24-2013, 11:25 PM
I'm talking about the people that support Pamella Gellar's point of view that the US should war all of the Muslim nations. A Crusade rather than a Jihad.

I have listened to Pamela Gellar, and what I hear is not that we need to be aggressive in other countries, but vigilante in ours protecting our rights in this country from the goal of implementing Sharia. Now, I have not hung on her every word.... but there ARE those who are working tirelessly to dismantle our constitution and decimate our rights. There are many "groups" that SHARE this goal, maybe albeit for different reasons, but they ARE working TOGETHER to accomplish the same goals. They just don't realize that when they accomplish their goals.... they will only have each other left to devour and they will fall to themselves like dominoes.

fr33
10-24-2013, 11:50 PM
I have listened to Pamela Gellar, and what I hear is not that we need to be aggressive in other countries, but vigilante in ours protecting our rights in this country from the goal of implementing Sharia. Now, I have not hung on her every word.... but there ARE those who are working tirelessly to dismantle our constitution and decimate our rights. There are many "groups" that SHARE this goal, maybe albeit for different reasons, but they ARE working TOGETHER to accomplish the same goals. They just don't realize that when they accomplish their goals.... they will only have each other left to devour and they will fall to themselves like dominoes.

Yeah I'm pretty sure that you belong to the group that I'm talking about. The "moral majority" christian right wing. So worried about foreigners taking away your rights while you've slaughtered 500k-1million of those foreigners through wars of aggression. Maybe they want to take away your "right" to kill them. I don't blame them.

They hate us for our freedoms (to kill them).

libertariantexas
10-25-2013, 01:04 AM
If it's on Infowars, it must be accurate, right?

Oh, wait, Infowars is slightly less credible than an Obama press release.

My bad.

enhanced_deficit
10-25-2013, 01:26 AM
During a pre-deployment briefing, Fort Hood soldiers were told that Christians, Tea Party supporters and anti-abortion activists were a radical terror threat, enemies of America, and that anyone found to be supporting these groups would be subject to discipline under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Don't know about other groups, but lately Christians are not taking new PC moves under SWC Obama administration lying down:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XiizB9Lkqk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XiizB9Lkqk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh9cjUv9XgY&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh9cjUv9XgY&feature=player_embedded

Miss Annie
10-25-2013, 02:10 AM
Yeah I'm pretty sure that you belong to the group that I'm talking about. The "moral majority" christian right wing. So worried about foreigners taking away your rights while you've slaughtered 500k-1million of those foreigners through wars of aggression. Maybe they want to take away your "right" to kill them. I don't blame them.

They hate us for our freedoms (to kill them).
Wow! Collectivist much? Worried about foreigners taking my rights away huh? I wouldn't even be ok with locals taking my rights away. Do you want someone to take your rights away? I have never slaughtered anyone much less thought that any war was a good idea. Where do you get these ideas? I don't have the right to kill anyone and I certainly don't like the idea of my head being on a platter either. I don't know where people get the idea that Christians want to kill "brown people" (as they are so commonly referred to on this forum), they seem to forget that Christians are the ones getting slaughtered in the middle east. Let me tell ya....... De-Nile, it ain't just a river in Egypt!

XTreat
10-25-2013, 03:15 AM
If this happened its an isolated incident, the idea that Christianity is under fire in them military is laughable.

AuH20
10-25-2013, 07:50 AM
I don't understand why people like you who believe such things are in this country, sitting on your ass, rather than over there killing the fuck out of Muslims.

Not important enough to you to take any action, just important enough to you to try to convince other people to write the checks and send their children for your repulsive, unethical, unChristian holy war.

You make me sick and you're a coward. Project much? Where do I advocate for wasteful imperial campaigns of plunder and geostrategic dominance? There is not a morally superior party in this contrived fight. Neither the Western oligarchs nor the barbarians with the 6th century inferiority complex. They deserve each other.

Elias Graves
10-25-2013, 08:09 AM
If this happened its an isolated incident, the idea that Christianity is under fire in them military is laughable.

Its not at all isolated. It's policy now.

tod evans
10-25-2013, 08:11 AM
Relevant to this thread;


Exclusive: Army halts training program that labeled Christians as extremists

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/24/exclusive-army-halts-training-program-that-labeled-christians-as-extremists/


The Secretary of the Army has ordered military leaders to halt all briefings on extremist organizations that labeled Evangelical Christian groups as domestic hate groups. The shutdown comes just four days after I reported exclusively about a briefing at Mississippi’s Camp Shelby that labeled the American Family Association as a domestic hate group.

“On several occasions over the past few months, media accounts have highlighted instances of Army instructors supplementing programs of instruction and including information or material that is inaccurate, objectionable and otherwise inconsistent with current Army policy,” Army Sec. John McHugh wrote to military leaders in a memorandum I obtained.

McHugh “directed that Army leaders cease all briefings, command presentations or training on the subject of extremist organizations or activities until that program of instruction and training has been created and disseminated,” Army spokesman Col. David Patterson, Jr., tells me.

To correct the problem, Army Sec. John McHugh has directed leaders to create a standardized program of instruction and training.
The Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty welcomed the news and said it was about time the Secretary of the Army intervened.

“Men and women of faith – who have served the Army faithfully for centuries – have been likened to those who regularly threaten the peace and security of the United States,” said Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance. “It is dishonorable for any U.S. military entity to allow this type of improper characterization.”

The Camp Shelby incident led five congressmen to fire off a letter to the Pentagon expressing their grave concerns.

“This most recent mislabeling of a Christian organization reflects what appears to be a troubling trend of religious intolerance in the military,” Rep. Doug Lamborn wrote in a letter signed by Reps. Tim Huelskamp, Steve Scalise, John Fleming and Joseph Pitts. “We are very troubled.”

The Army issued a statement refuting the claims made and photographed in the briefing after it was reported in my column.

The Camp Shelby briefing was one of a number of incidents on Army bases around the nation where soldiers were instructed that groups like the American Family Association and Family Research Council should be considered domestic hate groups because of their support for traditional marriage.

Last week soldiers at Fort Hood were warned that participating in or donating money to evangelical Christian groups or Tea Party groups could result in military punishment.

And last May an Army Reserve training brief listed Catholics and Evangelical Christians as examples of religious extremism. That incident prompted 34 members of Congress to raise objections.

The Army repeatedly told me the briefings were isolated incidents where instructors used materials that were not approved by the military.

McHugh said the instructors used material that is “inaccurate, objectionable and otherwise inconsistent with current Army policy.”

He referenced recent “high-profile” cases where Army instructors found information online and included it in their presentations.

“The groups identified in the instruction were not ‘extremist’ organizations as that term is defined in Army Regulation,” McHugh wrote in his memorandum.

So where did the Army instructors get their talking points?

“None of these slides were produced by the Army, but by soldiers who included information found during an Internet search,” Patterson told me.

“The Army does not maintain or publish a list of organizations considered extremist; and after a similar incident earlier this year, commanders and other leaders were cautioned that they should not use lists of ‘extremists,’ ‘hate groups,’ ‘radical factions’ or the like compiled by any outside non-governmental groups or organizations for briefings, command presentations, or as a shortcut to determining if a group or activity is considered to be extremist.”

But the Army does provide a list of organizations that do list groups like the AFA and FRC as domestic hate groups – specifically the Southern Poverty Law Center. And the SPLC is featured in the military’s Equal Opportunity Advisor Student Guide.

The Chaplain Alliance uncovered that information through a Freedom of Information Act request. Crews wants the Army to stop using any materials from the SPLC.

“The SPLC has labeled many mainstream religious organizations as hate groups,” Crews said. “Reliance on lists produced by anti-Christian political organizations violates the apolitical stance necessary in the military.”

So to correct the problem, McHugh has directed leaders to create a standardized program of instruction and training.

“Given these recent developments, it is clear that we must act to standardize such programs of instruction and training plans to ensure consistency with Army policy,” McHugh wrote in his memorandum.

He wants the revised policies to be completed by December 13.

pcosmar
10-25-2013, 08:30 AM
If this happened its an isolated incident, the idea that Christianity is under fire in them military is laughable.

It is not isolated.. It is systemic.

"Strategic Implications of American Millennialism"
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA485511
Is just one published by US Military,, and it was published in 2008. It has been examined by several since,, (google search the responses)

klamath
10-25-2013, 08:46 AM
Not army policy. Obviously an instructor that researched his class material with his own political bias. Probably just a democratic soldier. Such a thing does exist.

pcosmar
10-25-2013, 09:02 AM
Not army policy. Obviously an instructor that researched his class material with his own political bias. Probably just a democratic soldier. Such a thing does exist.

NO he did not. He did it from materials provided.. and not just at Ft Hood..

He was using the materials provided in the "Equal Opportunity Leaders Course" which is service wide.
A course produced by the very anti-Christian SPLC

Damn,, can't anybody here read? :(

libertygrl
10-25-2013, 09:36 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'

Come on dude. You really think Bush was sincere when he said this?? He was just selling the war to the Christian Zionists. And please don't paint ALL Christians with such a broad brush. I hate when people do this. We're not all self righteous war mongors that bash gays. I personally have a problem with organized religion but I beleve in Christ and his teachings - which clearly - the Christian Zionists have been led astray from.

This is all just part of the Zionist plan to make both Christians and Muslims appear as the enemy while the criminal Zionists are contoling things from behind the curtain. They are the masters of deception and from what I have read over the years, Satanists. I never in a million years thought I would ever believe this but, it all truly seems to be coming down to a battle between the forces of good vs. evil. Don't be deceived.

fr33
10-25-2013, 10:24 PM
they seem to forget that Christians are the ones getting slaughtered in the middle east.

:rolleyes: Those hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, and the ones I'm forgetting from the "war on terror" were mostly Christians. Riiiiiight... :rolleyes: