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pathtofreedom
10-20-2013, 10:35 AM
Media companies are private companies and for this reason are free to do what they want with their own media operations if they don't want to show Ron Paul they shouldn't be forced to do so. Its almost as if people are endorsing the fairness doctrine or enhanced government regulation. Media companies are not large because of the government they are large because of market forces and economies of scale, such largeness is actually enabled by deregulation.

tod evans
10-20-2013, 10:47 AM
Did you see this thread?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430972-PLEASE-HELP-THIS-GO-VIRAL!!-CNN-WHISTLEBLOWER-EXPOSES-LIES!

pcosmar
10-20-2013, 10:51 AM
Media companies are private companies and for this reason are free to do what they want with their own media operations if they don't want to show Ron Paul they shouldn't be forced to do so. Its almost as if people are endorsing the fairness doctrine or enhanced government regulation. Media companies are not large because of the government they are large because of market forces and economies of scale, such largeness is actually enabled by deregulation.
Bullshit.
On several levels.. MSM are propaganda outlets.. Corporate entities (State Created, State controled)
And The FCC is a federal agency.

And what is the point of this a year after the election is over?

Uriel999
10-20-2013, 10:59 AM
Bullshit.
On several levels.. MSM are propaganda outlets.. Corporate entities (State Created, State controled)
And The FCC is a federal agency.

And what is the point of this a year after the election is over?

It is called trolling.

pathtofreedom
10-20-2013, 10:59 AM
Bullshit.
On several levels.. MSM are propaganda outlets.. Corporate entities (State Created, State controled)
And The FCC is a federal agency.

And what is the point of this a year after the election is over?
They are not state created at all. The FCC is worthless and really only exists to censor swear words and implement standards, something that media companies would do on their own, the FCC also only regulates airwaves.

pcosmar
10-20-2013, 11:21 AM
, the FCC also only regulates airwaves.

Your ignorance is astounding.


The Federal Communications Commission regulates interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and U.S. territories.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

Further details of Operation Mockingbird were revealed as a result of the Senator Frank Church investigations (Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities) in 1975. According to the Congress report published in 1976:

"The CIA currently maintains a network of several hundred foreign individuals around the world who provide intelligence for the CIA and at times attempt to influence opinion through the use of covert propaganda. These individuals provide the CIA with direct access to a large number of newspapers and periodicals, scores of press services and news agencies, radio and television stations, commercial book publishers, and other foreign media outlets."

Church argued that misinforming the world cost American taxpayers an estimated $265 million a year.

In February 1976, George H. W. Bush, the recently appointed Director of the CIA, announced a new policy: "Effective immediately, the CIA will not enter into any paid or contract relationship with any full-time or part-time news correspondent accredited by any U.S. news service, newspaper, periodical, radio or television network or station." He added that the CIA would continue to "welcome" the voluntary, unpaid cooperation of journalists.

pcosmar
10-20-2013, 11:35 AM
And for further education,,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FPAQlbmlSc

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28610.htm
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/09/30/the-eyeopener-cia-in-the-news-media-2/

pathtofreedom
10-20-2013, 11:39 AM
The CFR is itself a non governmental. You jave yet to truly explain how these , media companies aren't private.

GunnyFreedom
10-20-2013, 11:48 AM
They are not state created at all. The FCC is worthless and really only exists to censor swear words and implement standards, something that media companies would do on their own, the FCC also only regulates airwaves.

You don't have to be a government to be guilty of fraud. :rolleyes:

pcosmar
10-20-2013, 11:51 AM
The CFR is itself a non governmental.

No,,

It is in reality,, THE Government.

The puppet show is not. the false illusion of political parties is only a show.

pcosmar
10-20-2013, 12:05 PM
You jave yet to truly explain how these , media companies aren't private.

Yes I did actually,
The CFR owns and controls the Media outlets,, and also run the "government".
The FCC controls the distribution,, and NO ONE is allowed to broadcast without approval.

There is no private Media,, beyond handbills (underground newspaper),, and internet sites.

enhanced_deficit
10-20-2013, 12:05 PM
Yea it is all 'private business'.

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muh_roads
10-20-2013, 12:45 PM
Media companies are private companies and for this reason are free to do what they want with their own media operations if they don't want to show Ron Paul they shouldn't be forced to do so. Its almost as if people are endorsing the fairness doctrine or enhanced government regulation. Media companies are not large because of the government they are large because of market forces and economies of scale, such largeness is actually enabled by deregulation.

I feel the people should have a say because public funds were used to appease lobbyists for the media industry that helped them attain the monopoly that they have now.

Otherwise without that special privilege, I would agree with you. But our own money is being used against us going as far back as the early 20th century.

Feeding the Abscess
10-20-2013, 01:29 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_license

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_management

Media companies may be private, but the government literally chooses who it allows to broadcast.

RM918
10-20-2013, 01:29 PM
Yeah, and if you believe all the major media conglomerates are 100% private businesses with no government influence, you also would believe that the government is a 100% public institution with no money or influence put into it by the corporations. Which means I have a bridge to sell you.

HOLLYWOOD
10-20-2013, 01:34 PM
Couple of Days ago... NAB = Nation Association of Broadcasters
http://www.nabshow.com/2014/sessions/speaking-opportunities/media-technologies-for-military-and-government/

http://www.nabshow.com/2014/images/NAB14_logo.jpgOctober 18, 2013 — Speaking Proposals for the 2014 NAB Show are due. This date will not be extended. http://www.nabshow.com/2014/images/white_callout_arrow.png

(http://ww4.aievolution.com/nab1401/) Relevant Topic Areas



Commercial off-the-shelf technologies for military/government application
Broadband and networking for military/government
Communications during emergencies
Security and surveillance
Mission critical video streaming
Portable/handheld devices and applications
Digital asset management
Conducting business with the government
Producing, editing and packaging video for dissemination
Systems integration
Command, Control and Communications
Emerging satellite technologies
Local and wide area networking for military and government
Encryption technologies
Field operations and data security



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PACs National Assn of Broadcasters Summary http://assets.opensecrets.org/img/heavy_hitt3.jpg (http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000202)
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00009985
Official PAC Name: NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BROADCASTERS POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE (NABPAC)
Location: WASHINGTON, DC 20036
Industry: TV/Movies/Music (http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/industry.php?txt=B02&cycle=2014); Commercial TV & radio stations
Treasurer: ORNELAS, CHRIS MR.
FEC Committee ID: C00009985
(Look up actual documents filed (http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?C00009985) at the FEC)

thoughtomator
10-20-2013, 01:44 PM
There's a point where it's no longer "free press" and is long over the line into "intentional fraud".

MelissaWV
10-20-2013, 01:58 PM
It's not even worth an entire response, so I'll just say:

* Equal time required
* Funding sources for these utterly "non-political" entities

Zippyjuan
10-20-2013, 06:05 PM
What is being "Blacked out" by the media now? (Sometimes I find people are crying media blackout because something they think is important isn't run as the "Top Story of The Day") Media care about advertiser dollars. They will pump stories they think their readers will be most interested in so that they get the largest reader (viewer)ship so they can get the most dollars from advertising.

satchelmcqueen
10-20-2013, 08:41 PM
media presents its self as the truth on tv when in fact it isnt. if they openly admit they are not real media before every show, then fine. but they dont. they never tell they have most of their programming fed to them by the white house. they never tell any of that. nice try troll.

Natural Citizen
10-20-2013, 08:47 PM
media presents its self as the truth on tv when in fact it isnt. if they openly admit they are not real media before every show, then fine. but they dont. they never tell they have most of their programming fed to them by the white house. they never tell any of that. nice try troll.

Alternative sources are blowing mainstream out of the water. Seriously. And I'm not talking about reciting current events, I mean changing the way people think. Whenever I do happen to see mainstream fodder I laugh. Literally. It's pathetic. And the viewership is dwindling.

For me, the only usefulness in even watching is to see what kind of dumbed down political angle they want to herd the sheep with. I think it's important to watch them for at least that.

VoluntaryAmerican
10-20-2013, 08:52 PM
As far as the average journalist, it's a problem with education. I went to J-school and basically we were taught that the 3rd parties are not worth reporting because they will never win and we have a two party system. It's just a normal "that's the way it is" type approach to rationalizing why it is OK to black out certain ideas. People like Ron Paul were put in that category by some regular reporters, which was unfair.

Don't get me wrong though, it was obvious there was also a concerted effort to discredit Dr. Paul-- there is definitely this element of elite-interests corrupting the media. Those bad egg popular sellouts, much like our establishment politicians, are the real driving forces in the media that demand others conform.

UWDude
10-20-2013, 09:17 PM
What is being "Blacked out" by the media now? (Sometimes I find people are crying media blackout because something they think is important isn't run as the "Top Story of The Day") Media care about advertiser dollars. They will pump stories they think their readers will be most interested in so that they get the largest reader (viewer)ship so they can get the most dollars from advertising.

"what is being blacked out?"

Don't play stupid. Entire debates are framed as left vs right arguments. "Does Saddam have WMD's or not?" was the debate before the Iraq war, not "is it America's business if he does, and is that justification for war?" The debate was framed on the premise it was cause for war, and then went from there with its phony left saying the UN should make the determination, and the right saying the US needs to defend itself, regardless of what the UN says. The whole thing was staged, and nary a journalist or news station ever bothered to question whether it was smart or moral foreign policy.

"Is Iran building a nuclear weapon?" is the debate, not, "Does Iran have the right to build a nuclear weapon?" or "Why does Iran NEED nuclear weapons?", or imagine this one on CNN, "Is worldwide American aggression causing nations to accelerate their nuclear weapons programs?". Yeah fucking right, cold day in hell before you see real, honest debate on any of the MSM.
Every now and then, there may be a story or debate from this angle, but by and large, 99% of them are asking if Iran is making nukes, and what should be done about it. And these are two little examples of the entire frame job done by the mainstream media which is still trying to control the debate, in their little left-right paradigm, to keep the outcome always in the favor of the M.I.C. and the banking cartels. Every day, every story, every fucking panel and every fucking worthless pundit, it's always the same framed bullshit propaganda. You have to be a god-damned retard not to notice this shit by now. Seriously, when are you going to wake the fuck up? Truth is, you are a smart character, Zippyjuan, so you are being willfully obtuse.

And then you tried to feed us the bullshit line that somehow ratings would plummet if there was an honest, unframed debate amongst the host of establishment pundits trained to toe the lines to make the left/right divide look like a real divide and not a sham. THE RATINGS WOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME, SINCE BY AND LARGE IT IS THE SAME EXACT TOPIC, YET SOMEHOW THE DEBATE IS ALWAYS FRAMED A SPECIFIC WAY, ON EVERY CHANNEL. EXACT PHRASES ARE USED. In sales, it is called phraseology, in politics, it is called PROPAGANDA.

And they sure suck at knowing what viewers want too, because their ratings continue to plummet, and internet viewership continues to skyrocket. Alex Jones has more listeners daily then all of the major cable news outlets combined. And it's not just because he is better at sensationalism, (the MSM is the MASTER of sensationalism), it is because he covers the stories Americans want to hear more about.

So, yeah, more bullshit from Mr. Establishment, Zippyjuan.

Natural Citizen
10-20-2013, 09:30 PM
"what is being blacked out?"

Don't play stupid. Entire debates are framed as left vs right arguments.

This is what baffles me when I hear people talk about getting candidates on mainstream outlets. People are smartening up and know full well when they are watching someone answer politically loaded questions about things they absolutely just don't care about. A growing demograph are seeing these weapons of mass distraction for what they are. To think for a second that this whole notion of playing we ask you decide is fruitful is just nuts. It may work on the older folks but I think that they'll be outnumbered moving forward.

I have a feeling that this time around we'll see a tremendous turnout of voters and I think they'll greatly outnumber this we ask, you decide demograph. I just have a feeling about it.

Anti Federalist
10-20-2013, 09:35 PM
Successful OP troll is successful.

donnay
10-20-2013, 09:49 PM
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries."

~ David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991

Zippyjuan
10-21-2013, 10:46 AM
That quote has not been proven to have been made by Rockefeller though it has been often repeated.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller

Disputed[edit]

We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. … It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.

Purported remarks at a Bilderberg Group meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany in June 1991, The remarks are said to have been printed in several right-wing French publications shortly thereafter; as quoted in Programming, Pitfalls and Puppy-Dog Tales (1993) by Gyeorgos C. Hatonn, p. 65. Skepticism is in order for the accuracy or attribution of alleged remarks from these exclusive meetings, particularly those which could be manifestations of either satire, sarcasm — or outright fraudulance.