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fr33
10-19-2013, 09:29 PM
http://freekeene.com/2013/10/19/pumpkinfest-snipers/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6vyudzIRQk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_JrMXA3VzY

Carlybee
10-19-2013, 09:31 PM
Live free or die? Maybe just die.

Anti Federalist
10-19-2013, 09:34 PM
"Good" cops.

Anti Federalist
10-19-2013, 09:36 PM
Live free or die? Maybe just die.

'Cos, you know, nothing says freedom like being surveilled by police snipers at a PumpkinFest.

heavenlyboy34
10-19-2013, 09:40 PM
What could possibly go wrong?

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/3/8/1/0/3/1/what-could-possibly-go-wrong-57239817368.jpeg#what%20could%20possibly%20go%20wr ong

heavenlyboy34
10-19-2013, 09:41 PM
'Cos, you know, nothing says freedom like being surveilled by police snipers at a PumpkinFest.
Whut? Say agin? I cin't hear ya over all dis fuckin freedom, mundane! :/

oyarde
10-19-2013, 10:17 PM
Never heard of " security" like that for a pumpkin festival .They do that for everything in that city ?

donnay
10-19-2013, 10:23 PM
Why weren't any of these at the pumpkin fest?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mAIy_TUuHk

Cleaner44
10-19-2013, 10:34 PM
See something, say something.

kcchiefs6465
10-19-2013, 11:02 PM
"Good" cops.
Just keeping the streets safe. You don't know the kind of people these brave officers run into daily.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
10-20-2013, 01:55 AM
I see about 7 losers up there. Maybe they're looking for the Headless Horseman.

tangent4ronpaul
10-20-2013, 02:03 AM
And 911 didn't get a self inflicted DDOS attack again, why?

What is wrong with this country???

-t

tod evans
10-20-2013, 02:06 AM
This goes here;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5_ThuoQYw

Keith and stuff
10-20-2013, 08:06 AM
Never heard of " security" like that for a pumpkin festival .They do that for everything in that city ?

I think part of reason Free Keene published this news and it was posted here is because it is so unusual. I've never heard of it happening before. Oh, and this isn't just a Pumpkin Festival, this is the biggest 1 around.

Smiles, pumpkins abound as Keene breaks jack-o'-lantern record
http://www.sentinelsource.com/news/local/smiles-pumpkins-abound-as-keene-breaks-jack-o--lantern/article_aa596f94-5018-5fb5-add9-5328fc1e466a.html


There was mixed reaction in the crowd at the start of the night about whether Keene would break a world record Boston set in 2006 with 30,128 jack-o’-lanterns. But shortly after 8 p.m., news that Keene had surpassed that record with 30,581 lit pumpkins caused festival-goers to erupt in cheers and applause.

Tyler_Durden
10-20-2013, 08:22 AM
Wasnt there a recent DHS memo about Al Qaeda e-chatter coming from a cave in Pakistan eluding to an attack at a pumpkin festival? (enter sarcasm here)

pcosmar
10-20-2013, 08:24 AM
Were they "Good" Police Snipers?

vita3
10-20-2013, 08:29 AM
Waste of $$.

Origanalist
10-20-2013, 08:38 AM
Wasnt there a recent DHS memo about Al Qaeda e-chatter coming from a cave in Pakistan eluding to an attack at a pumpkin festival? (enter sarcasm here)

The pumpkins! What better place to hide the bombs?! http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1835jdacbddhhjpg/original.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/18/1350565351862/It-is-easier-to-cut-human-006.jpg

http://crystallynk.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/6a00c2251cb0cff21900c2252c6e36f219.jpg

It's perfect, Mooo ha haaaaaaa............http://israelsmessiah.com/islam/images/ahmadinejad_evil.jpg

Mani
10-20-2013, 08:50 AM
"Good" cops.


Hope the officers made it home safe with all those dangerous teens that smash pumpkins and scary jack o lanterns.

Root
10-20-2013, 09:11 AM
Wasnt there a recent DHS memo about Al Qaeda e-chatter coming from a cave in Pakistan eluding to an attack at a pumpkin festival? (enter sarcasm here)
There was, but it didn't get distributed until late last week due to the 17% government "shutdown".

SeanTX
10-20-2013, 09:28 AM
"But, but, but -- if an Al-Queda hunter-killer team had assaulted the PumpkinFest and killed dozens you all would be complaining that the police hadn't done enough!"

Did they have the new Bear Cat there too ?

JK/SEA
10-20-2013, 11:06 AM
apparently none of you know who Pumpkinhead is.....scary shit...cops don't like scary shit....scary shit must be neutralized at every turn and civil rights be damned...

your protection is mission #1.....

tod evans
10-20-2013, 11:09 AM
apparently none of you know who Pumpkinhead is.....scary shit...cops don't like scary shit....scary shit must be neutralized at every turn and civil rights be damned...

your protection is mission #1.....

http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/en/explore/online/eatons/pics/sadbear.jpg

oyarde
10-20-2013, 11:16 AM
apparently none of you know who Pumpkinhead is.....scary shit...cops don't like scary shit....scary shit must be neutralized at every turn and civil rights be damned...

your protection is mission #1.....

Oh , I know who Pumpkinhead, Headless Hession and the Leprechaun are, LOL

Anti Federalist
10-20-2013, 12:15 PM
apparently none of you know who Pumpkinhead is.....scary shit...cops don't like scary shit....scary shit must be neutralized at every turn and civil rights be damned...

your the cop's protection safety is mission #1.....

FTFY

Keith and stuff
10-21-2013, 11:28 AM
Some folks are trying to help identify these undercover police. Cop Block / Free Keene folks were previously success at identify and undercover area police officer. In fact, he even switched police forces after that. Some might call that a partial victory.

Help Keene Peaceful Streets Identify Plainclothes Rooftop Snipers at PumpkinFest 2013
October 19, 2013 by Jason Talley
http://freekeene.com/2013/10/19/pumpkinfest-snipers/


Keene Law Enforcer walks in front of traffic to avoid question about Pumpkin Fest Snipers
October 20, 2013 by Jason Talley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrgcwE0gfQ

69360
10-21-2013, 12:58 PM
Some folks are trying to help identify these undercover police. Cop Block / Free Keene folks were previously success at identify and undercover area police officer. In fact, he even switched police forces after that. Some might call that a partial victory.

Eh, I don't know if I like outing undercover cops, but I would like to know who the guys on the roof are and why they were there. Snipers on a roof at a Halloween festival in NH bothers me quite a bit.

phill4paul
10-21-2013, 01:02 PM
Eh, I don't know if I like outing undercover cops, but I would like to know who the guys on the roof are and why they were there. Snipers on a roof at a Halloween festival in NH bothers me quite a bit.

Out 'em.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430080-How-Undercover-Cops-in-a-Florida-City-Make-Millions-Selling-Cocaine

69360
10-21-2013, 01:08 PM
Out 'em.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430080-How-Undercover-Cops-in-a-Florida-City-Make-Millions-Selling-Cocaine

That's your opinion not mine. I don't like snipers on rooftops and am fine with legalizing drugs. But I do think there is a need for police and even undercover police sometimes.

jllundqu
10-21-2013, 01:10 PM
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/en/explore/online/eatons/pics/sadbear.jpg

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/2/Open/EU%20VOD%20Releases/Pumpkinhead/Stills/_derived_jpg_q90_600x800_m0/Pumpkinhead3.jpg?partner=allmovie_soap

tod evans
10-21-2013, 01:15 PM
That's your opinion not mine. I don't like snipers on rooftops and am fine with legalizing drugs. But I do think there is a need for police and even undercover police sometimes.

Bullshit!

phill4paul
10-21-2013, 01:25 PM
That's your opinion not mine. I don't like snipers on rooftops and am fine with legalizing drugs. But I do think there is a need for police and even undercover police sometimes.

Yes, that is my opinion. Out 'em. If you can't trust them, or trust that they will be kept on a tight leash or held accountable, then why have them?

RonPaulMall
10-21-2013, 01:37 PM
Yes, that is my opinion. Out 'em. If you can't trust them, or trust that they will be kept on a tight leash or held accountable, then why have them?

What exactly is the purpose of an undercover police officer in Keene, New Hampshire?

phill4paul
10-21-2013, 01:50 PM
What exactly is the purpose of an undercover police officer in Keene, New Hampshire?

Hell if I know. I'm surprised someone didn't call the cops on these guys. Or hundreds overflowhelming 911. :p

Keith and stuff
10-21-2013, 01:55 PM
What exactly is the purpose of an undercover police officer in Keene, New Hampshire?

The same as everywhere else. They do drug and alcohol stings (Keene is a college town). Other types of stings. And apparently, look for people to kill from the rooftops.

While I don't beleive that undercover police (be they from DC, Boston, the state police, the county police or locals) should operate in small communities like Keene, I've never tried to out undercover police, although they have annoyed me by parking in handicap parking spots before... I was just pointing out what people in Keene have done in the past and are trying to do now.

mczerone
10-21-2013, 01:55 PM
That's your opinion not mine. I don't like snipers on rooftops and am fine with legalizing drugs. But I do think there is a need for police and even undercover police sometimes.

These guys weren't "undercover." Undercover police pretend to be civilians to entrap them doing something that they wouldn't do in the presence of police.

If they were undercover, then they were pretending to be just "normal people" on rooftops with high powered rifles scouting the crowd with binoculars.

Seems legit.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
10-21-2013, 02:45 PM
Government leeches taking food off your table and from your family.

69360
10-21-2013, 03:02 PM
Besides drugs, I can see very few reasons for undercover cops in small towns in places like NH. End the drug war and undercover work will be such a rarity outside big cities it won't even merit us discussing it. That doesn't mean it should be banned altogether, there can still be instances where it could be useful. Like real (not fbi made up) terrorism some types of fraud etc.

Before you all start flaming and neg repping me, remember I'm not an anarchist and not an absolutist. We are on the same side of this issue and probably agree 80-90%. I don't want rooftop snipers and don't want undercover drug busts, just reasonable law enforcement.

Keith and stuff
10-21-2013, 03:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/7oq5PMK.png

tod evans
10-21-2013, 03:05 PM
Besides drugs, I can see very few reasons for undercover cops in small towns in places like NH. End the drug war and undercover work will be such a rarity outside big cities it won't even merit us discussing it. That doesn't mean it should be banned altogether, there can still be instances where it could be useful. Like real (not fbi made up) terrorism some types of fraud etc.

Before you all start flaming and neg repping me, remember I'm not an anarchist and not an absolutist. We are on the same side of this issue and probably agree 80-90%. I don't want rooftop snipers and don't want undercover drug busts, just reasonable law enforcement.

In a system where a sheriff and his deputies were accountable to the people there would be no one able to work "undercover" because everybodies face, address and children would be known.

Imagine that, accountability to those who pay you.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
10-21-2013, 03:22 PM
In a system where a sheriff and his deputies were accountable to the people there would be no one able to work "undercover" because everybodies face, address and children would be known.

Imagine that, accountability to those who pay you.

Yep.

The vast majority of undercover is for drugs and prostitution. Eliminate that and you'd have a tiny percentage working on other things. Those other things are generally solved from tips and people actually working. They are not solved from a bloated government entity of losers who still think it's cool to where your decoder ring as a an adult.

tod evans
10-21-2013, 04:18 PM
Yep.

The vast majority of undercover is for drugs and prostitution. Eliminate that and you'd have a tiny percentage working on other things. Those other things are generally solved from tips and people actually working. They are not solved from a bloated government entity of losers who still think it's cool to where your decoder ring as a an adult.

The fact that "people" have accepted masked/unknown/unaccountable cops to even exist speaks volumes.

And for the cops, do you wonder why it is your children are afraid to tell kids at school what you do? Why must your phone number and address be unlisted? If your chosen profession were truly honorable why hide it?

69360
10-21-2013, 04:49 PM
In a system where a sheriff and his deputies were accountable to the people there would be no one able to work "undercover" because everybodies face, address and children would be known.

Imagine that, accountability to those who pay you.

I'd wager that 90+% of people in any given county have no idea of who their sheriff is, what he looks like or care to know.

Anti Federalist
10-21-2013, 04:53 PM
Out 'em.

I concur.

Out them.

Put their names and addresses and pictures all over town.

ETA: They do it to us.

Let their neighbors and family in town ask them why they were under sniper surveillance.

Anti Federalist
10-21-2013, 05:06 PM
Good Guys Don't Wear Masks.

https://mycotopia.net/forums/attachments/general-discussions/32277d1156278490-my-son-thinks-everyone-mask-terrorist-swat-team-posing.jpg

phill4paul
10-21-2013, 07:28 PM
Yes, that is my opinion. Out 'em. If you can't trust them, or trust that they will be kept on a tight leash or held accountable, then why have them?

http://www.blogcdn.com/blog.moviefone.com/media/2013/05/r-ben-stein-large570.jpg

SeanTX
10-18-2014, 07:44 PM
This is for those of you who scoff at the need for snipers at the Pumpkin Festival :

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/18/police-respond-to-incidents-at-keene-pumpkin-festival/


Several Injured As Students At Keene Pumpkin Festival Clash With Police
October 18, 2014 5:05 PM


KEENE, N.H. (AP/CBS) — Several people were injured and about a dozen were arrested as crowds of students clashed with police in riot gear Saturday at a New Hampshire pumpkin festival.

About 30 people were injured as hundreds of students threw beer cans and bottles at police and ripped up street signs, fire officials said. Police used pellets and pepper spray to disperse the crowds gathered for the Keene Pumpkin Festival near Keene State College.


Keene State College President Anne Huot said in a statement that the school will hold involved students responsible for their behavior.

“Despite the concerted efforts of organizers, city officials, police, and Keene State College, there continued to be disruptive behavior at parties in multiple locations around the city, injuries, and property damage,” Huot said. “We deplore the actions of those whose only purpose was to cause mayhem.”

Huot said that the school and local officials need to work together to make sure future festivals are not spoiled.

snip

Keith and stuff
10-18-2014, 08:13 PM
Young liberals and statists from CT and Mass aren't able to get into most of the schools there. They are accepted at KSC. Last year, there was a TV reality show about the Keene Pumpkin Festival so all of the liberal out-of-state friends of the liberal college students wanted to come up and be a part of history.

Would this have happened if marijuana was legal? Most likely not. Liberals cause a circle of problems that will continue unless libertarians step-up and solve the problems.

Video of the out-of-staters acting crazy and the police responding in a perhaps reasonable way. It is annoying because these folks from CT/Mass are allowed to come here and increase my taxes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRz2V0fsRII

There are so many possible solutions. Allow the landlords to kick the folks out. Increase the out-of-state tuition rates. Increase the standards for the out-of-state students. Maybe privatize the school? Legalize marijuana. The list goes on.

fr33
10-18-2014, 10:59 PM
^^ Abolish government aid for student loans.

The images I've been seeing today of pumpkinfest sure seem different than last year's. I guess I didn't realize that a raging college party was part of it with those huge crowds throwing shit. Last year it seemed to me like it was a simple town festival.

ghengis86
10-19-2014, 07:04 AM
This is for those of you who scoff at the need for snipers at the Pumpkin Festival :

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/18/police-respond-to-incidents-at-keene-pumpkin-festival/

And what exactly are the snipers needed for in this situation?

CPUd
10-19-2014, 07:45 AM
Were any pumpkins injured this year?

mac_hine
10-19-2014, 08:53 AM
https://d2lzghgvw1jtbn.cloudfront.net/event_updates/videos/5/834159584667774686_186136802.mp4

Because Murica....


There was plenty of stupidity on both sides. The students acted like animals, and the militarized police presence escalated the situation.

http://ban.jo/News/US-Canada/20141018/Riots-Break-Out-At-Keene-State-College-Keene/

invisible
10-19-2014, 12:23 PM
This is really about getting Keene residents to accept the bearcat / police militarization. Connect the dots.

There was a lot of opposition to Keene getting a bearcat, but the city did it anyways:
http://www.wmur.com/Controversial-Armored-Vehicle-Approved-In-Keene/11835220

A controversial issue was settled in Keene on Thursday night as the City Council moved forward with plans to use more than $250,000 worth of federal money to buy an armored police vehicle. The city voted to accept the money in December and upheld that decision in the face of intense public pressure.
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140907/NEWS0606/140909354

When the city first applied for the BearCat the activists were part of a movement to collect hundreds of signatures in an attempt to stop the city council from accepting the vehicle, he said.

When Keene residents opposed the acquisition of the BearCat, a representative from Lenco Armored Vehicles, the company that makes the BearCat, was brought in to "save the sale," Freeman said, by meeting with city councilors.

Since the bearcat is unpopular in Keene, it's purchase needed to be justified. So agent provocateurs were brought in from out of town, this incident wasn't caused by the residents of Keene:
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/10/keene_state_colelge_pumpkin_festival.html

Keene State College reported Saturday afternoon that based on the fact that the Pumpkin Festival typically draws thousands of visitors, it is likely that a majority of the people involved are not students.

In Keene, the community has been debating the issue since 2012 when the department used a federal grant to get an armored military vehicle. While some argue that having such equipment is counterproductive to maintaining good relations between the department and the people it serves, others say an incident like the one on Saturday is exactly the reason you need military equipment on the streets.
http://patch.com/new-hampshire/amherst/keene-state-college-students-riot-pumpkin-festival-0

Keene State College also issued a statement putting the bulk of the blame on “out-of-town visitors” who had come into the city for the pumpkin festival.

LibForestPaul
10-19-2014, 12:26 PM
I would chip in for up close drone surveillance of plain clothes snipers.

Anti Federalist
10-19-2014, 06:25 PM
Sooo, they rioted why, exactly?

invisible
10-19-2014, 06:38 PM
Sooo, they rioted why, exactly?

To show why Keene so desperately needed a bearcat. See my post, above.

donnay
10-19-2014, 06:39 PM
This is really about getting Keene residents to accept the bearcat / police militarization. Connect the dots.

There was a lot of opposition to Keene getting a bearcat, but the city did it anyways:
http://www.wmur.com/Controversial-Armored-Vehicle-Approved-In-Keene/11835220

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20140907/NEWS0606/140909354



Since the bearcat is unpopular in Keene, it's purchase needed to be justified. So agent provocateurs were brought in from out of town, this incident wasn't caused by the residents of Keene:
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/10/keene_state_colelge_pumpkin_festival.html


http://patch.com/new-hampshire/amherst/keene-state-college-students-riot-pumpkin-festival-0

Ding...Ding...Ding! We have a winner!

Keith and stuff
10-19-2014, 07:04 PM
^^ Abolish government aid for student loans.

The images I've been seeing today of pumpkinfest sure seem different than last year's. I guess I didn't realize that a raging college party was part of it with those huge crowds throwing shit. Last year it seemed to me like it was a simple town festival.

Technically, none of the crazy stuff happened at Pumpkin Fest. That was in the college part of the city. So the families didn't see it unless they went to the college housing or at least right next to it. A lot of people are really annoyed at these liberal pricks. I predict there will be massive changes or the event won't happen next year. That's not so bad as the event is used as a way to giver government worker's overtime bonus pay. There are plenty of other Pumpkin events in NH, anyway.

Anti Federalist
10-19-2014, 07:06 PM
To show why Keene so desperately needed a bearcat. See my post, above.

Ah yes, I see...

otherone
10-19-2014, 07:22 PM
The pumpkins! What better place to hide the bombs?!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/Green_goblin2.jpg