15-year-old who streaked at football game commits suicide, faced sex offender reg. & expulsion

[jct74]

Boy, 15, kills himself after 'facing expulsion and being put on sex offender registry' for streaking prank at high school football game

• Christian Adamek hanged himself on October 2 and died from his injuries two days later - a week after he streaked at his high school football game
• He was arrested and school district recommended he face a court hearing
• If convicted of indecent exposure, he'd have gone on sex offenders list

By LYDIA WARREN
PUBLISHED: 10:40 EST, 10 October 2013

A popular 15-year-old student has committed suicide after he reportedly faced expulsion and could have been placed on the sex offenders' register simply for streaking at a high school football game.

Christian Adamek, from Huntsville, Alabama, hanged himself on October 2, a week after he was arrested for running naked across the Sparkman High football field during a game.

The teenager died two days later from his injuries and on Wednesday, friends and family gathered at a memorial service as they struggled to comprehend the beloved student's death.

A video of Adamek streaking during a game against a rival team was posted on YouTube hours after the event and students took to Twitter to call him a 'legend'.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/10/article-2452030-18A823E600000578-711_634x726.jpg

'Sparkman's new slogan is gonna be "Welcome to Sparkman High School, Home of Christian Adamek",' one student wrote.

But school staff did not treat the situation so lightly.

Sparkman High Principal Michael Campbell told WHNT a day before the suicide attempt that the teen could face major repercussions because of his actions.

'There's the legal complications,' Campbell said. 'Public lewdness and court consequences outside of school with the legal system, as well as the school consequences that the school system has set up.'

In Alabama, indecent exposure is linked to the state's sex offender laws, meaning that he could have found himself on the sex offenders register due to the streaking.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2452030/Christian-Adamek-Boy-15-kills-facing-expulsion-sex-offender-registry-STREAKING-high-school-football-game.html

[amy31416]

This is awful. Streaking, for god's sake.

Keep your children away from the public system as much as possible.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Wow. We've gone from that Ray Stevens song to this.

Better also watch it if you take a leak in public.

[RickyJ]

The poor boy did not have enough fight in him to fight these bastards. You don't ever let others determine your happiness or your successfulness or you most surely will be a miserable failure.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

being naked is now a sex crime

[angelatc]

That picture breaks my heart.

Those people don't feel one bit of remorse.

[Mani]

That picture breaks my heart.

Those people don't feel one bit of remorse.

That's the secondary tragedy.

The first, this boys life came to a sudden end when he couldn't deal with the fact we would be branded a sex offender for the rest of the his days.

The second....The people who tried to ruin his life, don't really care.

[Occam's Banana]

It is the thankless but vitally important task of our fine public school officials (such as Principal Campbell and the staff of Sparkman High) to instill in our children an appropriate degree of respect for and submission to the rules of our society. The unfortunate Mr. Adamek is no different than any other miscreant who willfully flouts the authority of the institutions upon which our civilization depends.

Lack of compliance will NOT be tolerated.

That is all.

[getch36]

so sad,this is heartbreaking that a life is lost over fuckin nonsense..........

[TER]

Lord have mercy... May God grant comfort and hope to those who knew and loved this child of God. Lord, have mercy...

[Brian4Liberty]

Uh, nothing about this story adds up.

[Origanalist]

Campbell declined to comment on Adamek's death but the Madison County school district issued a statement saying it had 'received word that a Sparkman High School student has passed away'.

'Our prayers and thoughts are with the family during this time of bereavement,' the statement read.

Hollow sentiments at best.

[tod evans]

Courts and lawyers are not going to fix problems like this.

[Origanalist]

I running out of patience with the authoritarian tyrants running wild in this country. This was a regular occurrence when I went to school. Sure the students would be called into the office, maybe even get a one day suspension, but never did anybody consider charging them with being sex offenders.

[Anti Federalist]

Tell me, who are the "bullies"?

Now you know why government has been so red-hot on all this anti-bullying propaganda.

Like numbers and dope rackets, they hate the competition.

[Origanalist]

Watch it while you can......


Published on Oct 7, 2013
The following news footage/article was scrubbed from the WHNT website. It shows school Principal Campbell publicizing the troubles of student Christian Adamek right before the young man committed suicide. The school's administration was pressing for serious charges against the young man. Read more below:

MADISON COUNTY, Ala. (WHNT) -- Sparkman High School Principal Mike Campbell says during a time out at last Friday night's football game at home against Grissom High School a male student ran nude across the field.

The incident was captured in part with a 6 second video using the Vine app and was later posted to YouTube. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JT0Y2...)

"A lot of times it's a prank, someone put them up to it, someone offers them money, they do it for school spirit or various reasons but they don't look at all the consequences," says Campbell.

Campbell explains minor crime can be a major ordeal. While the principal was not at liberty to discuss the specific disciplinary actions taken by the school, he did confirm the student was not at school Tuesday.

Then comes the legal repercussions. Criminal defendants who have not quite reached the age of majority go through a different criminal justice system than the one most people are familiar with. Children as young as 12 and as old as 18 are typically taken to juvenile court. Campbell says the school did recommend the student have a hearing within the Madison County Court System to determine if formal charges will be filed.

"There's the legal complications," says Campbell, "public lewdness and court consequences outside of school with the legal system as well as school consequences that the school system has set up."

While he was not at liberty to divulge details that lead to the indecent display, Campbell says the incident was much more than a mere prank.

"This situation was totally different, something not related to that at all."

Once a case is referred to juvenile court, a juvenile court officer (often a probation officer) or prosecutor will then make a decision on whether to dismiss the matter, handle the matter "off the record", or file formal charges for the crime.

In additional potential public lewdness, the student could also face indecent exposure charges.

A basic indecent exposure charge is usually considered a misdemeanor level offense. The punishment for a misdemeanor indecent exposure conviction is probation up to a year or two in jail and a fine. Defendants who are placed on probation may have to attend specialized counseling and refrain from using the Internet except for limited purposes.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ClBFgfZjfQc

[Anti Federalist]

Wow. We've gone from that Ray Stevens song to this.

Better also watch it if you take a leak in public.

Now everybody knows how far gone we are, in 35 years.

[Origanalist]

This story is nowhere to be found in the so called national media.

[tod evans]

If the adults in this town do not publically ridicule, spit on and otherwise humiliate Mike Campbell at every opportunity until he up and leaves the state then they deserve his terroristic reign.

People who use laws and regulations in this type of extreme are no better than some dude with a car bomb.

It's not just Mike Campbell either, the DA must be held to the same standard!

Run the slimy bastards out of town!

[Origanalist]

If the adults in this town do not publically ridicule, spit on and otherwise humiliate Mike Campbell at every opportunity until he up and leaves the state then they deserve his terroristic reign.

People who use laws and regulations in this type of extreme are no better than some dude with a car bomb.

It's not just Mike Campbell either, the DA must be held to the same standard!

Run the slimy bastards out of town!

Absolutely 100% correct. Until people start putting these slimeball tyrants into their place the beatings will continue.

[phill4paul]

WTF? My heart weeps for this teenager and his family. No one should have to go through this over such a petty incident.


Campbell explains minor crime can be a major ordeal.

If you make it such then it is. You P.O.S. :mad:

[TruckinMike]

My Rope-a-Dope list keeps gettin' bigger and bigger and bigger. :mad::mad::mad:

[Anti Federalist]

Thank God all the officials were safe.


It is the thankless but vitally important task of our fine public school officials (such as Principal Campbell and the staff of Sparkman High) to instill in our children an appropriate degree of respect for and submission to the rules of our society. The unfortunate Mr. Adamek is no different than any other miscreant who willfully flouts the authority of the institutions upon which our civilization depends.

Lack of compliance will NOT be tolerated.

That is all.

[V3n]

Shouldn't they arrest everyone in attendance of the game on Child Pornography charges for viewing a naked 15-year-old?
Especially the Principal. and put him on the Sex Offender list.

[jmdrake]

What the hell? The kid was a minor! There is a reason why minors don't typically get charged with adult crimes and this is it. In fact he was bluffed into suicide. No prosecutor worth spit would have tried to go after this kid as an adult. The school officials should be hit with wrongful death suits. Sadly that won't happen. And frankly there shouldn't be sex offender registries for anything other than forcible rape and child molestation for pre-adolescent or younger. There are far too many 19 y/o ruined for life for having a 17 or 16 y/o girlfriend.

[jmdrake]

This story is nowhere to be found in the so called national media.

You know, I just thought about something. If this teen had committed suicide because some other teens had "bullied him" online that would have been national news. But a principle can bully him and threaten his entire future and somehow it's okay.

[tod evans]

You know, I just thought about something. If this teen had committed suicide because some other teens had "bullied him" online that would have been national news. But a principle can bully him and threaten his entire future and somehow it's okay.

But, but, he was neekid! :eek:

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I have a few cardinal rules for life. One has to do with this very simplistic explanation I heard about depression. Somebody told me that depression is merely angered turned inward. I decided a long time ago that stupid fuckers like this principal and his ilk would never get to me that way. Principal Mike Campbell: Fuck him. Campbell: Fuck you.

[Original_Intent]

Cyber bullying is NOT OK....unless it is done to you by your overlords. :(

Sick.

[Origanalist]

You know, I just thought about something. If this teen had committed suicide because some other teens had "bullied him" online that would have been national news. But a principle can bully him and threaten his entire future and somehow it's okay.

You have to obtain a official title or sanction from the state. Then it's ok.

[kathy88]

I hope Campbell's life becomes an absolute living hell for this.

[juleswin]

You know, I just thought about something. If this teen had committed suicide because some other teens had "bullied him" online that would have been national news. But a principle can bully him and threaten his entire future and somehow it's okay.

But only if he was gay, or a girl and then the national media will pay attention

[V3n]

from Reddit (unconfirmed identity):


I knew this boy personally. I have known the family for several years, and go to school with him. I also know his sister very well. I have heard what happened from what the family told me. I was at the hospital with him, when he died. I have heard so many wrong versions of this story. So here is what happened.

On september 27th, we had a home football game versus a pretty big team. Shortly after half-time, he ran out of the bathroom by the concession stand and onto the field. This was about a 25 yard run. Once on the field, nobody knew what to do. He had a ski mask on, and a tube sock covering his junk. He had some illegible writing on his butt(we would later find out that he had someone jokingly write on his butt asking someone to homecoming). After he ran the distance of the field, he jumped a 4 foot chain link fence, followed shortly there after by an 8 foot tall chain link fence. After he had done all that running, he got winded and was worried he might pass out, so he sat down in the woods where he was found by police. He was promptly reclothed and was put in a cop car. I was with his sister when she saw him put in a cop car. He spent a few hours at the police station before he was picked up by his father. The following monday they had a meeting with our head principal and two assistant principals(we have a total of 5 assistant principals). It is not up to the principals to make the decision of expulsion, only the school board can do that. At said meeting though, one certain principal threw out a lot of scare tactics. She called him a terrorist, and a sex offender and everything else under the sun. After the meeting on monday, they were to reconvene on wednesday to further the discussion. He was never facing any sort of legal troubles at all, and I want to make that clear. All this talk of legal trouble, was from scare tactics. After the meeting on wednesday, they were leaning towards expulsion. After the meeting, he and his dad had a big fight. After which his dad went out side for 20 minutes to cool down and collect his thoughts. He left his son asleep on the couch, and when he came back, he wasn't there. He finally found him hanging in the garage. He called the ambulance as soon as he saw it. He had been hanging for awhile at this point. The ambulance took him to a hospital where they got a pulse on him and got him breathing. All of this was done medically, and was due to medicine. They soon sent him to another hospital that had the right staff and equipment to treat him. After two brain scans, it was decided that there was no activity and the family decided to stop all medicine and take him off the respirator. I was with them the entire time at the hospital up until they took him off of it. They say that while his body left the house, he as a person, a soul, never left the house. He died on october 3rd, and was buried october 7th. I know this might get downvoted, and I apologize for any errors or wrongdoings by posting this. This is my first post, and I felt this just needed to be said. So much is being said that is wrong and I just want the truth at there. If you have any questions, pm me.

edit: I just wanted to say that this article makes our principal out to be some demon. This is first year at the school and he couldn't be doing a better job. He is just taking the front of all this. He genuinely cares about his students and is worried for the family. He and I have personally talked about this together, with him showing great remorse and concern over the loss. He even went to the memorial, along with a few other assistant principals. I also know that the family loves him, and are extremely happy with how he has been handling this.

edit 2: I will not name names, I will not give out personal info. I will not condone a witch hunt, and I will not aid in one either.

Link to all of his/her comments: http://www.reddit.com/user/Immature_Bubble

[Origanalist]

But only if he was gay, or a girl and then the national media will pay attention

You must be a toothless redneck who only uses one syllable words.

[tod evans]

from Reddit (unconfirmed identity):



If this is true then my apologies to Campbell, just switch the onus to the broad making the overtures.

[phill4paul]

If this is true then my apologies to Campbell, just switch the onus to the broad making the overtures.

If Campbell was there he should have kept his 'assistant' in line.

[Origanalist]

If this is true then my apologies to Campbell, just switch the onus to the broad making the overtures.

Except he was there in the room, somebody should have shut the psycho bitch up.

[Origanalist]

If Campbell was there he should have kept his 'assistant' in line.

Heh, beat me to it.

[tod evans]

If Campbell was there he should have kept his 'assistant' in line.

Short of decking some blathering shrew that could be a real challenge....

Then again who knows what the truth is?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

The fact that it got to such a level rests with Campbell. He is supposed to be in charge.

[69360]

Kid should have got suspended from school, maybe a fine and some community service max. This is a damn shame.

[PaulConventionWV]

Hollow sentiments at best.

If I were in that family, I would be even more outraged by the shallow words of pity offered by the ones who caused the tragedy.

[Bern]

nm

[PaulConventionWV]

I heard a rumor that Michael Campbell has no penis. Again, allegedly, Michael Campbell has no penis. If you think about it, it must have been hard to watch a student streaking if you were Michael Campbell and had no penis. You'd probably want to punish a student severely for embarrassing you with rumors circulating that Michael Campbell has no penis.

Sounds legit.

EDIT: Too late, Bern.

[Carlybee]

But only if he was gay, or a girl and then the national media will pay attention

If he was gay or transgender some on this forum would say he deserved it.

[tod evans]

Kid should have got suspended from school, maybe a fine and some community service max. This is a damn shame.

Bullshit!

Fines and community service are both the result of court proceedings.

Streaking doesn't warrant an arrest let alone a court sentence.

[Pericles]

You know, I just thought about something. If this teen had committed suicide because some other teens had "bullied him" online that would have been national news. But a principle can bully him and threaten his entire future and somehow it's okay.

Nothing is illegal when the government does it, and that is the problem. There is no rule of law.

[tangent4ronpaul]

This is making steam shoot out of my ears :mad:

Why none of these school officials aren't up on manslaughter charges is beyond me.

-t

[dannno]

At said meeting though, one certain principal threw out a lot of scare tactics. She called him a terrorist, and a sex offender and everything else under the sun.

Yeesh.

[bolil]

I don't recall who said it, "bluffed into suicide" but I am writing a song about this. Ill post it so people can see how vapid I am.

Public schools can go to hell.

True story: I went to a catholic school for two years. I was busted for drinking at a dance. I drove to the dance. The school simply suspended me, didn't involve the cops.

Had it happened in a public school I would probably have a Zero Tolerance DUI on my record.

[phill4paul]

All over sock on a cock.... SMFH.

http://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Red-Hot-Chili-Peppers-The-Abbey-Road-EP-1988.jpg

[cajuncocoa]

If he was gay or transgender some on this forum would say he deserved it.

Beat me to it....I was just getting ready to post the same.

[angelatc]

I'd really like to see his classmates go full rebel over this.

[angelatc]

If he was gay or transgender some on this forum would say he deserved it.

No, we'd say he was already mentally unbalanced.

[cajuncocoa]

No, we'd say he was already mentally unbalanced.
but going naked in public is completely sane. Got it.

[tod evans]

but going naked in public is completely sane. Got it.

Streaking is a prank.

Pulling pranks doesn't point to insanity.

[cajuncocoa]

Streaking is a prank.

Pulling pranks doesn't point to insanity.

Neither does homosexuality....in 2013. Maybe if this was 1953 you might find people who think that way, but not usually today.

[tod evans]

Neither does homosexuality....in 2013. Maybe if this was 1953 you might find people who think that way, but not usually today.

I'll discuss streaking in the streaker's dead thread.

[cajuncocoa]

I'll discuss streaking in the streaker's dead thread.

Yeah, I don't really feel like going 12 rounds about this either....I'm just glad Carlybee pointed out the hypocrisy.

[satchelmcqueen]

the public school system is just another arm of the law and state/prison system now days. i know. i work in one as a janitor. there are very few ive met at the top who dont have a high minded attitude. this is pathetic that a kid killed himself over a prank.

[Carlybee]

Streaking is a prank.

Pulling pranks doesn't point to insanity.

No but committing suicide does (or at least mental instability)

[Ender]

No but committing suicide does (or at least mental instability)

No- depression and dispair.

These things are not necessarily mental instability.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Bullshit!

Fines and community service are both the result of court proceedings.

Streaking doesn't warrant an arrest let alone a court sentence.

I'm out of boolits, but this right here is right on the money.

[cajuncocoa]

No- depression and dispair.

This things are not necessarily mental instability.

The nasty things people say to and/or about those who are gay or transgendered can also lead to depression, despair, and suicide. Just sayin'.

[Ender]

The nasty things people say to and/or about those who are gay or transgendered can also lead to depression, despair, and suicide. Just sayin'.

A good friend of mine, who was gay, killed himself because he could not reconcile his gayness with his family's religion.

[amy31416]

The nasty things people say to and/or about those who are gay or transgendered can also lead to depression, despair, and suicide. Just sayin'.

Please stop. You said you'd stop.

[Origanalist]

I'm out of boolits, but this right here is right on the money.

Got that.

[Origanalist]

This kid went from being the toast of the school to suddenly looking at a life of being a sex offender. All because some psycho bitch from hell was allowed to go ballistic on him.

[GunnyFreedom]

You have to obtain a official title or sanction from the state. Then it's ok.

Authoritie

[PaulConventionWV]

Neither does homosexuality....in 2013. Maybe if this was 1953 you might find people who think that way, but not usually today.

It really shouldn't matter what year it is.

[69360]

Bullshit!

Fines and community service are both the result of court proceedings.

Streaking doesn't warrant an arrest let alone a court sentence.

American society doesn't accept public nudity, it is what it is.

It was a youthful indiscretion. Give the kid some mild suitable punishment and let him get on with his life. It's insanity that kids can face a lifelong punishment for a stupid kid prank.

[Tinnuhana]

There's also a possibility that things got to the point of bullying the kid in the meeting because some parent(s) complained about the incident to the school administration and threatened them with job loss if they didn't "do something about it, and quickly". If that's the case, I hope those people are feeling the heat of remorse now, too.

[Brett85]

This kid should've just received a few days of in school suspension for doing this. There shouldn't have been any legal penalties for this, in my opinion.

[Anti Federalist]

Yeesh.

Another dead civilian casualty in the War on Boys.

Which is, of course, just one front in the War on Us.

[Carlybee]

No- depression and dispair.

These things are not necessarily mental instability.

Depression and despair can result in mental instability.

[cajuncocoa]

Please stop. You said you'd stop.

Suggestion: put me on ignore.

[jtstellar]

I knew this boy personally... ...one certain principal threw out a lot of scare tactics. She called him a terrorist, and a sex offender and everything else under the sun...
they really need a device to measure when a hormone incident is taking place anytime with a woman at a work place..
most urgent medicine innovation need of the century

[Origanalist]

they really need a device to measure when a hormone incident is taking place anytime with a woman at a work place..
most urgent medicine innovation need of the century

It would never stop going off.
:toady:

[jtstellar]

It would never stop going off.
:toady:

they need at least remedy this for the greatness of gender equality.

with feminists pushing forced equal pay which if i may mention, some dailypaul regulars support.

[cajuncocoa]

they really need a device to measure when a hormone incident is taking place anytime with a woman at a work place..
most urgent medicine innovation need of the century

Thank God men never overreach and overreact. :rolleyes:

[Anti Federalist]

Had this poor kid lived, it would have been a perfect jury nullification case.

God damn any juror that would have convicted.

[Carlybee]

Thank God men never overreach and overreact. :rolleyes: Yeah like the disgruntled ones who walk into their workplace and start opening fire.

[phill4paul]

Had this poor kid lived, it would have been a perfect jury nullification case.

God damn any juror that would have convicted.

Excepting that very few juries know or have been told about nullification. Personally, I think it should be a preamble to any court preceding.

[tod evans]

Excepting that very few juries know or have been told about nullification. Personally, I think it should be a preamble to any court preceding.

Be a good start...

[kahless]

Excepting that very few juries know or have been told about nullification. Personally, I think it should be a preamble to any court preceding.

It is not as easy as I thought it would be. I had jury duty recently and I was surprised that even the defense kept hammering on the point of following the law even if you do not agree with it. The Judge, Prosecution and defense attorney all kept making that point repeatedly

They kept questioning me all different ways on this. I did not expect that and on top of being sick, it was all too easy to be honest.

[Anti Federalist]

Excepting that very few juries know or have been told about nullification. Personally, I think it should be a preamble to any court preceding.

I agree.

At least, in New Hampshire anyway, you are allowed to explain it in your defense arguments.

Outside, it's AmeriKa, where people go to jail for telling people about jury nullification.

[phill4paul]

It is not as easy as I thought it would be. I had jury duty recently and I was surprised that even the defense kept hammering on the point of following the law even if you do not agree with it. The Judge, Prosecution and defense attorney all kept making that point repeatedly

They kept questioning me all different ways on this. I did not expect that and on top of being sick, it was all too easy to be honest.

These days I think the best tact is to just STFU and wait until you are in deliberation. I kick myself in the ass over a DUI case in which I said to much to be considered by the prosecutor.

[kahless]

These days I think the best tact is to just STFU and wait until you are in deliberation. I kick myself in the ass over a DUI case in which I said to much to be considered by the prosecutor.

I felt the same way over a DWI case. They expected more than yes or no answers, I froze a bit since I suck a lying and ended up telling the truth.

What was interesting was the outrage that came from some of the other jurors over my opinion whom immediately came to the defense of the police and DWI laws. An even number defended me. I got kicked off, but the jurors that got so outraged by my opinion were kicked off to.

[Lindsey]

It is not as easy as I thought it would be. I had jury duty recently and I was surprised that even the defense kept hammering on the point of following the law even if you do not agree with it. The Judge, Prosecution and defense attorney all kept making that point repeatedly

This was my experience too. They basically told the jury they had exactly the opposite of nullification rights.

[phill4paul]

I felt the same way over a DWI case. They expected more than yes or no answers, I froze a bit since I suck a lying and ended up telling the truth.

What was interesting was the outrage that came from some of the other jurors over my opinion whom immediately came to the defense of the police and DWI laws. An even number defended me. I got kicked off, but the jurors that got so outraged by my opinion were kicked off to.

About the way it went for me too. I dunno. Did we do good or bad? I suck at lying too. Even if it is for what some might deem "the right reasons."

[kahless]

This was my experience too. They basically told the jury they had exactly the opposite of nullification rights.

Exactly.

[kahless]

About the way it went for me too. I dunno. Did we do good or bad? I suck at lying too. Even if it is for what some might deem "the right reasons."

Who knows, maybe it gives the remaining ones something to think about.

[Occam's Banana]

I had jury duty recently and I was surprised that even the defense kept hammering on the point of following the law even if you do not agree with it. The Judge, Prosecution and defense attorney all kept making that point repeatedly.

No real surprise here. Just system drones droning for the system ...

[jmdrake]

but going naked in public is completely sane. Got it.

It depends. Does the person go out in public naked all the time and claim he/she has no choice in the matter because he/she was born that way? (Technically we are all born naked but that's beside the point). Personally I neither think that homosexuality is a "mental imbalance" nor do I think it is a "genetic state". I think it is a choice and/or a result of emotional trauma. That's just been my experience from the people I know. And I'm sure others have many different personal experiences. And I think homosexuality is totally different from transgender. One is about who you choose to love. The other is about who you think you are. You are who you are and altering your body to be something else physically doesn't change who you are even if you think it does. If I take some magic pill that makes me turn white, I'm still black. I wouldn't want to take that kind of magic pill. I may have once as a child, but that was a sign of mental imbalance in my opinion. I pity the black girls in the experiment who consistently choose the white doll as being prettier than the black doll and think themselves as ugly. And I pity the boy who looks in the mirror and thinks he's ugly but that he would be pretty if he was a girl. Does that mean I hate him? I don't think so. I don't hate him any more than I hate those poor misguided black girls that think they are ugly. And yes, I know there are some children (very rare) that are actually born with both genders, the doctors choose and make what in retrospect was the wrong choice. I'm not talking about them. They were born with a physical abnormality the same way someone with no legs or an extra finger was born with a physical abnormality.

[angelatc]

they really need a device to measure when a hormone incident is taking place anytime with a woman at a work place..
most urgent medicine innovation need of the century

Dried up old hag was probably only offended that he was running away from her.

[Origanalist]

Dried up old hag was probably only offended that he was running away from her.

And he was covered with a sock.

[jmdrake]

from Reddit (unconfirmed identity):



Link to all of his/her comments: http://www.reddit.com/user/Immature_Bubble

Thanks for posting this. It's still a crying same that:

1) An assistant principle was such a retard that she thought that using "scare tactics" was the way to deal with this. Terrorist? Really? WTF?

2) The national U.S. media is sitting on the story.

3) That there is a partial truth in what the b-witch said in that trivial crap can end you up on a sex offender list which was really designed for potential child murderers.

And now I have to add a fourth crying shame.

4) That the dad in the story wasn't connected enough to his son to know that he (the son) needed his father's reassurance at that time rather than his condemnation. And I'm not saying this to condemn the dad either. I've definitely made my share of screw ups as a father. I was recently pushing my sons to practice for the basketball team. They had both said they wanted to be on it and in my heart I knew that neither was good enough yet and I didn't want them to be disappointed. But for the life of me I couldn't get them to practice. The last day before tryouts they did and while they made improvements, and while I did my best to be encouraging, neither one really did that well and all three of us knew it. One son came up to me crying saying "I'm sorry I'm not the son you want me to be." I was like "What the hell?" (I didn't say that but I thought it.) I explained to him that while there was no choice in him doing academics, I only pushed in on basketball because he said he wanted it and I wanted him to do his best. But beyond that I didn't care. I'm only "disappointed" when he hurts someone else, and even then I still love him and his brother. Once my other son, after watching a video about teen suicide, said "I hope I don't suicide". I was like "What are you talking about." Well...he was upset because he had taken a cookie that at school that he though was free and later he found out he had to pay for it, so he thought he was a "thief". (Yes, that son is that sensitive). I told him that accidentally taking something doesn't make you a thief and that at any rate there is nothing worth killing yourself over. Life goes on regardless of what you do. This boy needed someone to tell him that even if this dumbass assistant principal had been right, and that he was going to be branded a sex offender, that his life could still be fulfilling and have meaning. Jeeze this story tears me up every time I think about it.

[satchelmcqueen]

i would disagree. have you ever been pushed to the edge of life? i suspect not...or at least the edge according to your mind. ive been there myself and couldnt understand how i was even considering suicide. everyone has a breaking point.
No but committing suicide does (or at least mental instability)

[Carlybee]

i would disagree. have you ever been pushed to the edge of life? i suspect not...or at least the edge according to your mind. ive been there myself and couldnt understand how i was even considering suicide. everyone has a breaking point.

Nope, but my brother committed suicide and he was mentally unstable due to various illnesses related to a brain injury at birth. Yes he met his breaking point, but he had issues to begin with.

[phill4paul]

Thanks for posting this. It's still a crying same that:

1) An assistant principle was such a retard that she thought that using "scare tactics" was the way to deal with this. Terrorist? Really? WTF?

2) The national U.S. media is sitting on the story.

3) That there is a partial truth in what the b-witch said in that trivial crap can end you up on a sex offender list which was really designed for potential child murderers.

And now I have to add a fourth crying shame.

4) That the dad in the story wasn't connected enough to his son to know that he (the son) needed his father's reassurance at that time rather than his condemnation. And I'm not saying this to condemn the dad either. I've definitely made my share of screw ups as a father. I was recently pushing my sons to practice for the basketball team. They had both said they wanted to be on it and in my heart I knew that neither was good enough yet and I didn't want them to be disappointed. But for the life of me I couldn't get them to practice. The last day before tryouts they did and while they made improvements, and while I did my best to be encouraging, neither one really did that well and all three of us knew it. One son came up to me crying saying "I'm sorry I'm not the son you want me to be." I was like "What the hell?" (I didn't say that but I thought it.) I explained to him that while there was no choice in him doing academics, I only pushed in on basketball because he said he wanted it and I wanted him to do his best. But beyond that I didn't care. I'm only "disappointed" when he hurts someone else, and even then I still love him and his brother. Once my other son, after watching a video about teen suicide, said "I hope I don't suicide". I was like "What are you talking about." Well...he was upset because he had taken a cookie that at school that he though was free and later he found out he had to pay for it, so he thought he was a "thief". (Yes, that son is that sensitive). I told him that accidentally taking something doesn't make you a thief and that at any rate there is nothing worth killing yourself over. Life goes on regardless of what you do. This boy needed someone to tell him that even if this dumbass assistant principal had been right, and that he was going to be branded a sex offender, that his life could still be fulfilling and have meaning. Jeeze this story tears me up every time I think about it.

You're a good dad jmdrake! I do agree that this kid's father bears some of the responsibility. People today get to caught up in the B.S. of life. His dad was probably freaking out and worried about his kids future college chances instead of paying attention to the heart of the matter.

[cajuncocoa]

To those who have/had a problem with me bringing up the transgendered homecoming queen again...my only point in connecting this story to that one was to point out that many factors can drive a kid to suicide. If you don't realize that some of the stuff that was said in the topic about the TG kid are prime examples of that, then you're part of the problem that led the streaking kid to take his own life.

[Anti Federalist]

To those who have/had a problem with me bringing up the transgendered homecoming queen again...my only point in connecting this story to that one was to point out that many factors can drive a kid to suicide. If you don't realize that some of the stuff that was said in the topic about the TG kid are prime examples of that, then you're part of the problem that led the streaking kid to take his own life.

Prison...erm, school, could cause anybody to take their own life.

Happens all the time.

Hounding, nagging and bullying someone nonstop can certainly push someone over the edge, especially in a school/prison environment, where you cannot run away, or effectively defend yourself.

Why this case is different, is based on who the bullies were, and the fact that they get a pass, being "officials".

[cajuncocoa]

Prison...erm, school, could cause anybody to take their own life.

Happens all the time.

Hounding, nagging and bullying someone nonstop can certainly push someone over the edge, especially in a school/prison environment, where you cannot run away, or effectively defend yourself.

Why this case is different, is based on who the bullies were, and the fact that they get a pass, being "officials".
I don't disagree with how it's different; only pointing out how and where it is similar. Bullying is bullying, and it's especially heartbreaking when the bullies are adults (official or otherwise) who should know better.

[PaulConventionWV]

Yeah, I don't really feel like going 12 rounds about this either....I'm just glad Carlybee pointed out the hypocrisy.

Oh, you mean the imaginary hypocrisy that she just imagined? Keep in mind nobody actually said anything like that, so really it's just your own mind fueling your beliefs about "what some people would say."

[Bern]

nm


Sounds legit.

EDIT: Too late, Bern.

I jumped the gun after reading the OP and posted something I quickly realized was a mistake. I tried to redact it ASAP, but not quick enough before another member here quoted it. I asked this member politely to please redact the quote of my post from his, but he has refused. I don't know if this member just likes what was posted and is too much of a coward to post it under their own name, or has a hard on for antagonizing people. Either way, I hope this member never makes any mistakes in life. It's a cruel, unforgiving world.

I'd guess that the irony of this situation occurring on this thread is one that Christian Adamek would have understood if he were still with us.

[amy31416]

To those who have/had a problem with me bringing up the transgendered homecoming queen again...my only point in connecting this story to that one was to point out that many factors can drive a kid to suicide. If you don't realize that some of the stuff that was said in the topic about the TG kid are prime examples of that, then you're part of the problem that led the streaking kid to take his own life.

You also said that you'd stop trying to shove your opinion down people's throats in an unrelated thread.

Trust me, you, especially you, will never change anyone's mind who is vehemently opposed to homosexuality. You even turn off people who agree with you with regularity. I'm sure this will just make you angry.