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69360
10-10-2013, 09:37 AM
Boehner is about to cave on the debt ceiling and offer a 6 week increase. They are still pushing the lie that the US will default, which is not true.

Everyone with a GOP congressman fire up the hate mail.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lew-tells-senate-panel-debt-default-would-force-perilous-choices-on-economy/2013/10/10/5c1f648c-31a5-11e3-9c68-1cf643210300_print.html


BREAKING NEWS, 11:29: House Republican leaders will offer a bill authorizing a temporary increase in the debt ceiling, in exchange for discussions on reopening the government, funding the budget.

This story will update soon.

House Republican leaders are pushing a six-week increase in the debt limit, without any conservative strings attached, to calm jittery financial markets, according to senior GOP advisers.

The plan was presented to the House GOP caucus Thursday morning after Treasury Secretary Jack Lew warned a Senate panel that he would be unable to guarantee payments to any group — whether Social Security recipients or U.S. bondholders — unless Congress raises the federal debt ceiling.

If the GOP plan goes over well with rank-and-file Republicans, Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) could put the legislation on the floor for a vote late Thursday, aides said.

[See the latest updates on the shutdown.]

Financial markets soared on the first sign of optimistic news out of Washington in almost a month, with the Dow Jones industrial average up 169 points in the first 15 minutes of trading. The emerging plan would not deal with the now 10-day-old shutdown of the federal government, an issue that would move onto a separate track of talks.

The plan would meet President Obama’s demand for an increase in Treasury’s borrowing authority without any legislative riders, meaning that Democrats would likely support the plan and it could be signed into law. But it would set the stage for tough negotiations, possibly lasting until Thanksgiving, over bigger fiscal matters, since the tentative plan calls for only a six-week increase of the debt limit.

Advisers cautioned that Boehner’s often unruly caucus, which has repeatedly rejected leadership initiatives in the past, needs to sign off on the plan before it can advance.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lew-tells-senate-panel-debt-default-would-force-perilous-choices-on-economy/2013/10/10/5c1f648c-31a5-11e3-9c68-1cf643210300_print.html

erowe1
10-10-2013, 09:44 AM
Cave?

Boehner WANTS to raise the debt ceiling.

angelatc
10-10-2013, 09:48 AM
No surprise there, is there?

He already said he'd go around his caucus if necessary to get the bill through the House.

69360
10-10-2013, 10:00 AM
They need to remove him as speaker if he does it.

angelatc
10-10-2013, 10:42 AM
They need to remove him as speaker if he does it. I support that anyway. But we do not have a liberty or even a TEA Party candidate on deck, so nothing except the names would change.

HOLLYWOOD
10-10-2013, 10:47 AM
Party of One... The 'Establishment Party' funded by their money masters and campaign donors.


John Boehner's Kabuki Theater of an excuse to get the establishment graft/corruption/racketeering back on track... Rubberstamp BeeAtch Boehner


MODs... Merge todays the threads

bunklocoempire
10-10-2013, 12:15 PM
Party of One... The 'Establishment Party' funded by their money masters and campaign donors.


John Boehner's Kabuki Theater of an excuse to get the establishment graft/corruption/racketeering back on track... Rubberstamp BeeAtch Boehner


MODs... Merge todays the threads

"John Boehner's Kabuki Theater of an excuse..." lol Exactly my thoughts.

The writers really threw us a curve in this episode... :rolleyes: Who woulda thunk?!

ZENemy
10-10-2013, 12:17 PM
IF 17T is not enough, nothing will ever be enough. If congress fails on this issue (and they will) then we are going to need to band together and defund them ourselves.

brushfire
10-10-2013, 12:20 PM
Brave, brave, brave, brave sir boehner...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4rQDyRCZtg

erowe1
10-10-2013, 01:38 PM
They need to remove him as speaker if he does it.

Absolutely.

But how many Republicans in the House don't actually support raising the debt ceiling? Maybe 10?

AngryCanadian
10-10-2013, 01:41 PM
Boehner is about to cave on the debt ceiling and offer a 6 week increase. They are still pushing the lie that the US will default, which is not true.

Everyone with a GOP congressman fire up the hate mail.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lew-tells-senate-panel-debt-default-would-force-perilous-choices-on-economy/2013/10/10/5c1f648c-31a5-11e3-9c68-1cf643210300_print.html



http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lew-tells-senate-panel-debt-default-would-force-perilous-choices-on-economy/2013/10/10/5c1f648c-31a5-11e3-9c68-1cf643210300_print.html




They are still pushing the lie that the US will default, which is not true.
So thats not true then? or the fact your government has wasted 16 trillion into where again?

GunnyFreedom
10-10-2013, 01:45 PM
OK this is funny.

LEFT: House GOP unveils six-week debt hike that continues shutdown (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430089-House-GOP-unveils-six-week-debt-hike-that-continues-shutdown)

MIDDLE: John Boehner To Ask House GOP For Short-Term Debt Ceiling Increase (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430071-John-Boehner-To-Ask-House-GOP-For-Short-Term-Debt-Ceiling-Increase)

RIGHT: Boehner want to cave on the debt ceiling (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430076-Boehner-want-to-cave-on-the-debt-ceiling)

We've got all our bases covered here! Yes-siree-Bob!

69360
10-10-2013, 02:54 PM
So thats not true then? or the fact your government has wasted 16 trillion into where again?

It's not true that the US will default without a raise in the debt ceiling. The deficit has been reduced enough since 2011 that the debt could be serviced with existing revenue for the near future and continue to be serviced with small cuts. Obama and the liberal media are feeding people a line of crap. Moody's even says the US will not default and will not have it's credit rating downgraded if the debt ceiling is not raised.


OK this is funny.

LEFT: House GOP unveils six-week debt hike that continues shutdown (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430089-House-GOP-unveils-six-week-debt-hike-that-continues-shutdown)

MIDDLE: John Boehner To Ask House GOP For Short-Term Debt Ceiling Increase (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430071-John-Boehner-To-Ask-House-GOP-For-Short-Term-Debt-Ceiling-Increase)

RIGHT: Boehner want to cave on the debt ceiling (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430076-Boehner-want-to-cave-on-the-debt-ceiling)




We've got all our bases covered here! Yes-siree-Bob!

The thread I started can't represent the right. According to RPF, I am a commie, lefty statist even though every single person I talk to daily thinks I am far right. Shows the state of this place lately.

69360
10-10-2013, 08:58 PM
So Boehner, Cantor, Ryan and even Labrador met with Obama tonight. They are willing to increase the debt ceiling with no spending cuts for 6 weeks. Obama is thinking about it.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303382004579127241553500068

People really need to let their R congressmen know they will feel the pain if they go along with this.

eduardo89
10-10-2013, 09:02 PM
Boehner is about to cave on the debt ceiling and offer a 6 week increase. They are still pushing the lie that the US will default, which is not true.

Everyone with a GOP congressman fire up the hate mail.

Rand essentially said the same thing, as long as there are negotiations under way to get a deficit reduction deal.

I think it was in this interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_SKUbSVO_0

Rudeman
10-10-2013, 09:51 PM
I think the strategy is to remove the debt ceiling fight from the CR fight. Then after the 6 weeks have the debt ceiling fight to reduce spending.

69360
10-11-2013, 06:03 AM
I think the strategy is to remove the debt ceiling fight from the CR fight. Then after the 6 weeks have the debt ceiling fight to reduce spending.

Might work, but I don't trust Boehner. He has the high ground right now, but wants to give it away.