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tod evans
10-09-2013, 04:04 AM
California court rules spanking with wooden spoon not abuse

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/09/california-court-rules-spanking-with-wooden-spoon-not-abuse/?intcmp=latestnews

SAN JOSE, CALIF. – A state appeals court on Tuesday tossed out child abuse findings against a frustrated Northern California mother who spanked her 12-year-old daughter hard enough with a wooden spoon to cause bruising.

The 6th District Court of Appeal in San Jose reversed the child abuse determination made by the Santa Clara County Department of Social Services. Social workers waned to report Vernica Gonzalez to the state Department of Justice's child abuse database with a "substantiated" abuse determination. That determination was upheld by a trial court judge.

The appeals court said the spanking came close to abuse, but that social workers and the lower court judge failed to consider the family's entire circumstances.

Gonzalez and her husband testified that other forms of punishment such as groundings and taking away her phone had failed to persuade their 12-year-old daughter to do her schoolwork and avoid gang culture. The parents said that other family members had testified that spankings in the household were a rarity.

The appeals court said the mother's growing frustration with her daughter's behavior and her intention not to inflict harm in the April 2010 spanking weighed heavily in its ruling.

"Nothing in the record suggests the mother should have known she was inflicting bruises," Justice Conrad Rushing wrote for the unanimous three-judge panel. Rushing continued that "the spanking was entirely the product of a genuine and deliberate disciplinary purpose, i.e., to arrest troubling behavior patterns exhibited by the daughter."

The court ordered the child abuse report to be withdrawn or Gonzalez given another hearing in which the San Jose family's entire circumstances are considered and the spanking put into context with the parents' growing frustration with a recalcitrant daughter.

"We cannot say that the use of a wooden spoon to administer a spanking necessarily exceeds the bounds of reasonable parental discipline," Rushing concluded.

Mani
10-09-2013, 04:08 AM
California court rules spanking with wooden spoon not abuse

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/09/california-court-rules-spanking-with-wooden-spoon-not-abuse/?intcmp=latestnews

SAN JOSE, CALIF. – A state appeals court on Tuesday tossed out child abuse findings against a frustrated Northern California mother who spanked her 12-year-old daughter hard enough with a wooden spoon to cause bruising.

The 6th District Court of Appeal in San Jose reversed the child abuse determination made by the Santa Clara County Department of Social Services. Social workers waned to report Vernica Gonzalez to the state Department of Justice's child abuse database with a "substantiated" abuse determination. That determination was upheld by a trial court judge.

The appeals court said the spanking came close to abuse, but that social workers and the lower court judge failed to consider the family's entire circumstances.

Gonzalez and her husband testified that other forms of punishment such as groundings and taking away her phone had failed to persuade their 12-year-old daughter to do her schoolwork and avoid gang culture. The parents said that other family members had testified that spankings in the household were a rarity.

The appeals court said the mother's growing frustration with her daughter's behavior and her intention not to inflict harm in the April 2010 spanking weighed heavily in its ruling.

"Nothing in the record suggests the mother should have known she was inflicting bruises," Justice Conrad Rushing wrote for the unanimous three-judge panel. Rushing continued that "the spanking was entirely the product of a genuine and deliberate disciplinary purpose, i.e., to arrest troubling behavior patterns exhibited by the daughter."

The court ordered the child abuse report to be withdrawn or Gonzalez given another hearing in which the San Jose family's entire circumstances are considered and the spanking put into context with the parents' growing frustration with a recalcitrant daughter.

"We cannot say that the use of a wooden spoon to administer a spanking necessarily exceeds the bounds of reasonable parental discipline," Rushing concluded.


My dad not just used a wooden spoon, he broke a couple on our asses (my brother and myself). That'll put the fear of God in you. Which is exactly what we needed from time to time.

FloralScent
10-09-2013, 06:21 AM
My dad not just used a wooden spoon, he broke a couple on our asses (my brother and myself). That'll put the fear of God in you. Which is exactly what we needed from time to time.

Dad used a belt. Grandma used a wooden spoon. Mom is only 5'2", so I got blasted with a broom handle a couple of times in my teenage years. I had it coming. Some kids don't understand anything else.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
10-09-2013, 06:27 AM
Guess it's better to get hit with that wooden spoon than to have it shoved up your ass.

Speaking of this stuff. I'll never forget the first time my brother retaliated on my dad. My brother grew like a weed and was pretty big at age 14. He turned on my dad and kicked his ass. It was sort of funny because my dad had to save face. He reached out as he was falling from my brother's blow and purposely knocked the TV off the table.

Eh, if you're a parent and you spank your kid, then expect to get shot. Simple self-defense in my book.

Tod
10-09-2013, 06:38 AM
I was spanked as a child....one time that I can remember, by my dad. (I didn't usually look for trouble and had a lot of liberty as a kid) It was effective where "talking" proved to be a waste of breath.

I can say unequivocally that it was not abuse.

jkr
10-09-2013, 06:43 AM
a sp00n cousin?

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