Giuliani is going DOWN after today's scandel story on him!

[mconder]

Giuliani is going to go down hard with this abuse of public funds story that broke today, leaving people like Sean Hannity looking really stupid.

This will leave just RP, Mitt and Huck as serious contenders. 1 down, 2 to go.

[Elwar]

Giuliani has a whole news network at his disposal. He will turn it around.

[d991]

Even if there is overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing, the campaign will claim its just an attack by some of the other campaigns, and the issue will probably settle over in a few weeks when something else comes up. When you have the mainstream media reporting on so many stories in such little time, it gets lost on people. The only people this story might affect is those online who read into the issues, but I doubt Giuliani has many supporters like that...

[john_anderson_ii]

What's strange is that I only see this story headlining Fox's news page......

Where's CNN and MSNBC! They should be jumping on Fox's little golden boy over this.

[davidkachel]

This will only be a blip on Giuliani's radar. He is the anointed one and will not suffer from it. The press are nothing if not whores.

[noztnac]

Here's the link for Fox.
This doesn't look to me like a blip. It looks like seriously damaging material.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313627,00.html

[Johnnybags]

Ghouls is a filandering mayor and when it comes time for them to vote, they will remember the story of him taking taxpayer junkets to his whores house, bottom line. Rudy is gone.

[1000-points-of-fright]

Wolf Blitzer on CNN and Tucker on MSNBC are already all over this.

[bbachtung]

Makes me think that Giuliani is now 100% compatible with Huckabee (they both abused public funds for personal gain while "leading" their respective governments).

For some reason they now remind me of the couple from Send in the Clowns (I think Huckabee is the singer, and Giuliani the lady):



Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground,
You in mid-air.
Send in the clowns.

Isn't it bliss?
Don't you approve?
One who keeps tearing around,
One who can't move.
Where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns.

Just when I'd stopped opening doors,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours,
Making my entrance again with my usual flair,
Sure of my lines,
No one is there.

Don't you love farce?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want.
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns.
Don't bother, they're here.

Isn't it rich?
Isn't it *****,
Losing my timing this late
In my career?
And where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns.
Well, maybe next year.

[Mark]

What's strange is that I only see this story headlining Fox's news page......

Where's CNN and MSNBC! They should be jumping on Fox's little golden boy over this.

USA Today "picked it up"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-11-28-giuliani-bills_N.htm

Giuliani billed obscure agencies for trips
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As New York mayor, Rudy Giuliani billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan in the Hamptons, according to previously undisclosed government records.
The documents, obtained by Politico under New York's Freedom of Information Law, show that the mayoral costs had nothing to do with the functions of the little-known city offices that defrayed his tabs, including agencies responsible for regulating loft apartments, aiding the disabled and providing lawyers for indigent defendants.
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At the time, the mayor's office refused to explain the accounting to city auditors, citing "security."
The Hamptons visits resulted in hotel, gas and other costs for Giuliani's New York Police Department security detail.
Giuliani's relationship with Nathan is old news now, and Giuliani regularly asks voters on the campaign trail to forgive his "mistakes."
It's also impossible to know whether the purpose of all the Hamptons trips was to see Nathan. A Giuliani spokeswoman declined to discuss any aspect of this story, which was explained in detail to her earlier this week.
But the practice of transferring the travel expenses of Giuliani's security detail to the accounts of obscure mayoral offices has never been brought to light, despite behind-the-scenes criticism from the city comptroller weeks after Giuliani left office.
The expenses first surfaced as Giuliani's two terms as mayor of New York drew to a close in 2001, when a city auditor stumbled across something unusual: $34,000 worth of travel expenses buried in the accounts of the New York City Loft Board.
When the city's fiscal monitor asked for an explanation, Giuliani's aides refused, citing "security," said Jeff Simmons, a spokesman for the city comptroller.
But American Express bills and travel documents obtained by Politico suggest another reason City Hall may have considered the documents sensitive: They detail three summers of visits to Southampton, the Long Island town where Nathan had an apartment.
Auditors "were unable to verify that these expenses were for legitimate or necessary purposes," City Comptroller William Thompson wrote of the expenses from fiscal year 2000, which covers parts of 1999 and 2000.
The letter, whose existence has not been previously reported, was also obtained under the Freedom of Information Law.
Long Island bills
The receipts tally the costs of hotel and gas bills for the police detectives who traveled everywhere with the mayor, according to cover sheets that label them "PD expenses" and travel authorizations that describe the trips.
New York's mayor receives round-the-clock police protection, and there's no suggestion that Giuliani used his detail improperly on these trips.
Many of the receipts are from hotels and gas stations on Long Island, where Giuliani reportedly began visiting Nathan's Southampton condominium in the summer of 1999, though Giuliani and Nathan have never discussed the beginning of their relationship.
Nathan would go on to become Giuliani's third wife, but his second marriage was officially intact until the spring of 2000, and City Hall officials at the time responded to questions about his absences by saying he was spending time with his son and playing golf.
The receipts have languished in city files since Giuliani left office, apparently in part because of City Hall's decision to bill police expenses to a range of little-known city offices.
"There is no really good reason to do this except to have nobody know about it," Carol O'Cleireacain, a Brookings Institution senior fellow who was budget director under Giuliani's predecessor, David Dinkins, said of the unusual billing practices.
A Giuliani spokeswoman, Sunny Mindel, declined to comment on any aspect of the travel documents or the billing arrangements.
A Giuliani aide who would speak only on the condition of anonymity denied that the unorthodox billing practices were aimed at hiding the expenses, citing "accounting" and noting that they were billed to units of the mayor's office, not to outside city agencies.
The aide declined to discuss Giuliani's visits to Long Island.
The trips themselves were a departure for a mayor who had prided himself on spending every waking moment in the city and on the job, and offer a glimpse into the dramatic and controversial finale to his tenure in office.
Receipts show him in Southampton every weekend in August and the first weekend in September of 2001, before the terror attacks of Sept. 11 disrupted the routines of his city.
Both the travel expenses and the appearance that his office made efforts to conceal them could open Giuliani to criticism that his personal life spilled over into his official duties and his expenses grew in his final years in office.
It is impossible to say which of the 11 Long Island trips indicated by credit card receipts were to visit Nathan and which were for other purposes.
Eight of those trips, however, were not noted on Giuliani's official schedule, which is now available in the city's municipal archive and contains many details of Giuliani's official and unofficial life.
The billing practices, however, drew formal attention on Jan. 24, 2002, when Thompson, the city comptroller, wrote the newly elected mayor, Michael Bloomberg, a confidential letter.
One of his auditors, he wrote, had stumbled upon the unexplained travel expenses during a routine audit of the Loft Board, a tiny branch of city government that regulates certain apartments.
Broadening the inquiry, the comptroller wrote, auditors found similar expenses at a range of other unlikely agencies: $10,054 billed to the Office for People With Disabilities and $29,757 to the Procurement Policy Board.
The next year, yet another obscure department, the Assigned Counsel Administrative Office, was billed around $400,000 for travel.
Increasing costs
"The Comptroller's Office made repeated requests for the information in 2001 and 2002 but was informed that, due to security concerns, the information could not be provided," said Simmons. Thompson took office in 2002.
Thompson also warned that travel costs had increased by 151% in Giuliani's final fiscal year, to more than $618,000, a number which also includes police security on campaign swings for Giuliani's abortive 2000 Senate run and trips to Los Angeles by Donna Hanover, who remained Giuliani's wife and the city's official first lady, in the fall of 2000.
Most of that travel also was billed to obscure agencies, though portions — much of it trips to and from Washington by Giuliani deputies — were accounted for more conventionally, with a more visible charge to the mayor's office.
Thompson suggested Bloomberg "review … the cost of mayoralty travel expenses, given your administration's focus on fiscal constraints."
A spokesman for Bloomberg, Stu Loeser, said: "When we received the letter from the comptroller, we referred the matter to the Department of Investigations, as we would in any case like this."
A spokeswoman for the Department of Investigations declined to comment.
The executive director of the Loft Board referred Politico to Bloomberg's office for comment.
The first trip to Southampton appearing in the travel documents runs from Aug. 31 to Sept. 1, 1999.
Four police officers spent the night at the Atlantic Utopia Lifestyle Inn, according to an approval request for official out-of-city travel, billing the city $1,016.20.
Giuliani's private schedule, available from the municipal archive, lists no events on Long Island that day.
The New York Post reported the following year that Giuliani "had long weekend visits with gal pal Judi Nathan at her Southampton, L.I., condo last summer, according to neighbors who said the mayor did little to conceal their relationship."
The neighbors called their relationship and their time in Nathan's two-bedroom condo overlooking Noyack Bay "an open secret."
"Several residents of the condo sometimes asked Giuliani's driver and members of his security entourage to turn off their car engines," the Post reported.
That first trip was followed by at least 10 more, according to the travel and credit card documents.
One of those trips, on Aug. 20-21, 1999, included a fundraiser on the evening of the 21st. Giuliani's four-man detail arrived 24 hours early, billing the city $1,704.43 at the Southampton Inn, according to their approval request.
More trips followed in the summer of 2000, after the mayor's affair with Nathan became public and they were seen together publicly in Southampton. The trips accelerated in the summer of 2001, when he visited Southampton every weekend in August, as well as on Sept. 2.
Many of the trips show expenses only for gas, though his police detail billed the city $1,371.40 for the nights of Aug. 3-4, 2001, at the Village Latch Inn in Southampton.
Giuliani's police detail also spent a night in Palm Beach, Fla., according to the bill for the American Express card under Giuliani's name. The detectives spent $1,714.99 at The Breakers, a sprawling hotel and resort.
There is no indication that Nathan visited Palm Beach. Giuliani's aide did not recall the trip.
The 2001 travel expenses were billed to the Assigned Counsel Administrative Office, a little-known unit of the mayor's office involved in programs that provide lawyers to poor defendants.
None of the 2001 trips to Southampton appear in Giuliani's official schedule. However, the schedule does contain a potential clue to his destination. Before three of them, Giuliani paid a visit to his barber, Carlo Fargnoli, on York Avenue near the mayor's official residence, Gracie Mansion.
Politico intern Kate Linthicum contributed to this article.
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[Midnight77]

Don't worry. O'Reilly will be "Un Spinning" it tonight on the O'Reilly Factor.

[Geronimo]

If he was this bad as mayor imagine how he'd be as president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT-ouQPgMmI

[Dave Wood]

The best thing that can be done with Ghoul and Hillary imho is:

Write letters or otherwise push for press on the fact that Bill Clinton and Ghoul are no different, they act the same and have the same sleazy traits. Hillary by association, NY senator, Wife of Bill, supported by Murdoch, (same person supporting Ghoul), getting major face time with GWB jr.( Dad is best buddies with Bill) all shows that they expect to continue to "stay the course" regardless of who or what party supposedly is elected by "the people"

Huck is also in on this mess. Guilt by association. Another Gov. coming from a state with very questionable people in high positions. Arkansas. See a pattern yet? No offense to Arkansas, love the state but you got some real dirty stuff going on in your home town.

[peacemonger]

This is huge!!! Fox News has never leaked negative news about Giuliani before. Its officially the mafioso kiss of death.

Fox News works like the mafia. Giuliani did them a lot of favors to help Fox News get on the air in the 1990's. As Mayor, Giuliani controlled access to the public TV channels in NY and also controlled the permitting process. I think that is part of the reason why Fox has been covering up his dirt all this time. Now that it appears the Ghoul can not win Iowa, NH, or SC, it looks like Fox might be deciding to abandon him.

This just means that Fox is going to cozy up to Romney or Huckabee instead. When Murdock gets the Wall Street Journal he knows he will need direct access to the white house so he can help manipulate the FED and make profits through insider trading deals. Fox and Wall Street don't care who wins as long as the winner can be manipulated in exchange for a positive media image. That is why Wall Street supports Hillary too.

[loupeznik]

Makes me think that Giuliani is now 100% compatible with Huckabee (they both abused public funds for personal gain while "leading" their respective governments).

For some reason they now remind me of the couple from Send in the Clowns (I think Huckabee is the singer, and Giuliani the lady):

That's no lady that's Guiliani:p

[Taco John]

Seriously... This is going to wreck his campaign...

Americans will not put up with a sex scandal from a nominee... No way in hell...