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FrankRep
10-05-2013, 09:43 AM
Feds Reject Offer by Arizona Gov. to Reopen Grand Canyon Using State Funds (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/05/feds-reject-offer-by-arizona-gov-to-reopen-grand-canyon-using-state-funds/)


The Blaze
Oct. 5, 2013


Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said Friday that federal officials declined her offer to reopen the Grand Canyon using state funds.

“I offered to reopen the Grand Canyon to visitors by using state money, but federal officials declined my offer,” Brewer said in a Facebook post (https://www.facebook.com/GovJanBrewer?fref=ts). “I really shouldn’t be surprised that the Obama Administration doesn’t want Arizona’s help.”

The National Parks Service closed all national parks, including the Grand Canyon, to the public earlier this week, blaming the federal government shutdown.
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seapilot
10-05-2013, 10:01 AM
If they cared about the economic impact they would let Arizona fund it. They are probably losing tens of thousands of dollars from visitors. More proof here that its about political power instead of serving the peoples best interests.

Brian4Liberty
10-05-2013, 10:05 AM
Lol. Did they put barriers around the Grand Canyon?

Root
10-05-2013, 10:08 AM
If Arizona (or any state really) had any balls, they would just send the local sheriff to remove any Barrycades.

69360
10-05-2013, 10:32 AM
If Arizona (or any state really) had any balls, they would just send the local sheriff to remove any Barrycades.

I don't think they can. Sheriffs don't have authority on federal lands as I understand it.

The Obama administration is trying to inflict as much pain as possible on the people to ensure the GOP takes the blame for the shutdown, purely for political gain. It's their way or the highway, they refuse to accept any separate funding bills that would open the parks or pay the reserves.

Christian Liberty
10-05-2013, 10:35 AM
I don't think they can. Sheriffs don't have authority on federal lands as I understand it.
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Not legally. But the thing is, Mr. 666, the rest of us are not legal positivists. We don't care.

"Federal Land" should be an oxymoron. If I were a state governor every Federal agent in my state would be outlawed. They would either quit their jobs or leave.

Lucille
10-05-2013, 10:38 AM
Woulda shoulda coulda.

Arizona governor vetoes law demanding return of federal lands
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/15/us-usa-arizona-lands-idUSBRE84E04K20120515


In Arizona, the U.S. government controls 42 percent of the state's total land mass, compared with some 60 percent in Utah.

The Arizona bill would have sought state title to most of the federally owned land within its borders, including national forests, national monuments and national wildlife refuges, in addition to Bureau of Land Management land. Military bases and national parks were exempt.

specsaregood
10-05-2013, 10:40 AM
I don't think they can. Sheriffs don't have authority on federal lands as I understand it.

The Obama administration is trying to inflict as much pain as possible on the people to ensure the GOP takes the blame for the shutdown, purely for political gain. It's their way or the highway, they refuse to accept any separate funding bills that would open the parks or pay the reserves.

It might have worked pre-internet. But I don't think is gonna work now, people are seeing who the real bully here is and not liking it. I'm of the opinion that the Obama admin is playing this completely wrong.

Keith and stuff
10-05-2013, 10:44 AM
If Arizona (or any state really) had any balls, they would just send the local sheriff to remove any Barrycades.

States don't control local sheriffs, do they? I get your point, though. No governor in this country is pro liberty. The same is true for all of the AGs and so on. The system that created the Constitution has failed all of us.

69360
10-05-2013, 10:45 AM
It might have worked pre-internet. But I don't think is gonna work now, people are seeing who the real bully here is and not liking it. I'm of the opinion that the Obama admin is playing this completely wrong.

I think both sides are wrong. But I didn't want the GOP to do this because they would get the blame and hurt future election chances. Now that it's done, let it burn, I like it.

Really the GOP should have waited to fight the debt ceiling increase, that has much more popular support. It looks both fights will merge now, so it might be ok in the end.

MichaelDavis
10-05-2013, 10:51 AM
I wish my governor, Jay Nixon (D-MO), had some balls like Scott Walker (R-WI). It's too bad that Nixon is an Obama lapdog. Democrats are willing to put state workers, like those at the Gateway Arch, out of work instead of paying them through state funds. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/4/wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-defies-nps-order-shut-p/

Christian Liberty
10-05-2013, 11:16 AM
Why do government workers deserve to get paid again?

r123
10-05-2013, 04:02 PM
Why not extending the debt ceiling, is the best thing that could happen to this country: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yVUi8b8R2k8#t=940

FSP-Rebel
10-05-2013, 04:26 PM
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WM_in_MO
10-05-2013, 04:29 PM
If she was serious she'd just re-open it.

Occam's Banana
10-05-2013, 04:38 PM
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer said Friday that federal officials declined her offer to reopen the Grand Canyon using state funds.

There's the problem, right there - the notion that they should have to ask the Feds for "permission."

To hell with "federal officials" - just open the damned thing or STFU.
And if the Feds don't like it, then tell 'em where they can stick it ...

pathtofreedom
10-05-2013, 05:24 PM
The government is acting like a stubborn private property owner right now...

Anti Federalist
10-05-2013, 05:46 PM
Lol. Did they put barriers around the Grand Canyon?

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/barrycades.jpg

Anti Federalist
10-05-2013, 05:50 PM
There's the problem, right there - the notion that they should have to ask the Feds for "permission."

To hell with "federal officials" - just open the damned thing or STFU.
And if the Feds don't like it, then tell 'em where they can stick it ...

This, +rep.

Tell the FedCoats to pound fucking salt.

presence
10-05-2013, 07:57 PM
There's the problem, right there - the notion that they should have to ask the Feds for "permission."

To hell with "federal officials" - just open the damned thing or STFU.
And if the Feds don't like it, then tell 'em where they can stick it ...



We should tell the state to stick it too and stage a sit in.

Keith and stuff
10-05-2013, 07:59 PM
If she was serious she'd just re-open it.

She is extremely against AZ control of the Grand Canyon.

kcchiefs6465
10-05-2013, 08:23 PM
Considering this is the woman who vetoed the bill to allow Arizonans to use gold and silver for matters of business, her comments ring half-hearted and partisan motivated.

Not to mention that idgaf if it is state funding being used. I couldn't give two shits about the GC if I tried. People who are into the sights, those who go camping there and the businesses frequented in the area can easily pay for the upkeep if they so wanted to without taxing an entire state. Of which many do not care or even visit it.

Constitutionalists will declare up and down that she is legitimate in her half-assed pledges but uh, I'm not seeing it.

Keith and stuff
10-05-2013, 08:30 PM
Considering this is the woman who vetoed the bill to allow Arizonans to use gold and silver for matters of business, her comments ring half-hearted and partisan motivated.

Not to mention that idgaf if it is state funding being used. I couldn't give two shits about the GC if I tried. People who are into the sights, those who go camping there and the businesses frequented in the area can easily pay for the upkeep if they so wanted to without taxing an entire state. Of which many do not care or even visit it.

Constitutionalists will declare up and down that she is legitimate in her half-assed pledges but uh, I'm not seeing it.

You have a good point. She is against allowing people in AZ to enjoy the rights people in NH have always had and recently, even the people of UT have had. She hates freedom. Why tax gold and silver? I don't know much she loves the idea.

ClydeCoulter
10-05-2013, 08:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZzVdomYHnI

Anti Federalist
10-06-2013, 01:14 PM
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