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enhanced_deficit
10-03-2013, 08:26 PM
Do you believe an apology to family of Miriam Carey from Congress & CNN,CNBC execs is in order?

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I usually do not post Alex Jones vids but I am with him on this one.

Woman Flees Capitol Checkpoint, Executed By Cops
Capitol police executed a woman who attempted to flee a checkpoint, and the media celebrated it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nfVS2DvAEsI


My fear is this video could go viral (especially if he edited out couple of minutes including part in the midddle where starts to skip around the room).

CNN , CNBC, MSM coverage was disgraceful to say the least.

Unarmed 34 year old mother Miriam Carey, a dental hygienist from Stamford Conn, with her 1 year old daughter in the car was shot to death after she fled a police checkpoint in DC today. Congress gave a standing ovation to Capitol Police in "gratitude" shortly after it shot Carey.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSlr-sI6eZeF7hL8LyU2cHmzBC_NLdYUX9lsg1MFxwC8A93A1f-hQ (http://www.google.com/imgres?sa=X&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=648&tbm=isch&tbnid=mXjMLvUkb0_OPM:&imgrefurl=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/connecticut-woman-shot-dead-feared-obama-stalking-report-article-1.1476189&docid=rVOexw_xd8NKpM&imgurl=http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1477007.1380945408%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/miriam-01.jpg&w=635&h=847&ei=6IVRUuCHBYbU8wSkt4GYDg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:9,s:0,i:116&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=185&tbnw=136&start=0&ndsp=15&tx=64&ty=105)http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/square_thumb_medium/hash/f2/0f/f20f74230c8e1b498d7f56d27703b6ac.PNG?itok=99ZUiy0W (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=t1rmG02bpZ24RM&tbnid=zGs7r1QEtYYXRM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.examiner.com%2Farticle%2Fward-says-no-to-bachus-seat&ei=hodRUtixDoLu8QSA64H4DA&bvm=bv.53537100,d.eWU&psig=AFQjCNEgp4iYvrd14HTFK2ya9CS8aQyI9w&ust=1381161152126138)
http://guardianlv.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/miriam-carey-650x365.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=1YbCEAQMdBFmiM&tbnid=6BABPOR8fytzeM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fguardianlv.com%2F2013%2F10%2Fcapi tol-hill-suspect-thought-obama-was-communicating-with-her%2F&ei=OoZRUvLADomC8gS7hoCABQ&bvm=bv.53537100,d.eWU&psig=AFQjCNGwKxpUe9YQ4b6vyHK1VsRDoVWMYA&ust=1381160808394400)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCLGnach_YQ#t=89



And this Thank you from US Congress members:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnqUv90_IM0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnqUv90_IM0

Now if so many memebers of this "deliberative" body can jump to grossly wrong conclusion about facts just few blocks away from them, how can they be trusted to make decisions about US invasions/policing in Iraq, Syria,Palestine a world away from them?

Obama should address the nation and give his opinion if deadly use of force that killed this unarmed dental hygienist with child in the car was justified or unjustified. He doesn't have to wait for an issue to be racial before he speaks up.

phill4paul
10-03-2013, 08:31 PM
Now if so many memebers of this "deliberative" body can jump to grossly wrong conclusion about facts just few blocks away from them, how can they be trusted to make decisions about US invasions/policing in Iraq, Syria,Palestine a world away from them?

+rep.

fr33
10-03-2013, 08:32 PM
It should but it won't happen. It's more likely they'll parade the cops in front of congress and give them a medal for murdering her.

mosquitobite
10-03-2013, 08:33 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/miriam-carey-dental-hygienist-at-the-center-of-car-chase-and-shooting-near-the-capitol/2013/10/03/ad805fec-2c83-11e3-b139-029811dbb57f_story.html


Just another example of our nation applauding the death of "innocent until proven guilty".

If the state says you're guilty... well EF YOU! You DESERVE TO DIE!!!!1!

mosquitobite
10-03-2013, 08:37 PM
The comments on the WaPo article sicken me.

There was no gun in her car, but she deserved to DIE - DEATH PENALTY - with her kid as a witness - because she *might* have tried to run from the cops. Pathetic.

kahless
10-03-2013, 09:10 PM
...My fear is this video could go viral (especially if he edited out couple of minutes including part in the midddle where starts to skip around the room)....

Do you mean you hope the AJ video goes viral? Not sure why you would fear it going viral?

NorthCarolinaLiberty
10-03-2013, 09:25 PM
I dislike this seeming trend of public apologies. You can't demand that somebody be sorry because an apology needs to come from the heart.

The question is hypothetical, but consider that it would make no difference if the question gained any traction. These people don't even get it. They could not apologize from the heart because the whole issue is beyond their comprehension. They are ignorant at this stage and don't even want to know.

enhanced_deficit
10-03-2013, 10:45 PM
Some quality journalism right here:

NYT: 'Fiscal Crisis: Reports of Shooter Outside Capitol'... (http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/10/03/New-York-Times-Falsely-Attaches-Shooting-to-Fiscal-Crisis)

New York Times Links Capitol Hill Shooting to 'Fiscal Crisis'

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Do you mean you hope the AJ video goes viral? Not sure why you would fear it going viral?

I meant to say I suspect this video could go viral from AJ. But he looks better reporter today than much of US MSM.



I dislike this seeming trend of public apologies. You can't demand that somebody be sorry because an apology needs to come from the heart.

The question is hypothetical, but consider that it would make no difference if the question gained any traction. These people don't even get it. They could not apologize from the heart because the whole issue is beyond their comprehension. They are ignorant at this stage and don't even want to know.

Well what else should be demnded here after an unarmed mother is killed by police and Congress expresses thanks afterwards? Or nothing needs to be said here by Congress/media?

NorthCarolinaLiberty
10-03-2013, 11:04 PM
Well what else should be demnded here after an unarmed mother is killed by police and Congress expresses thanks afterwards? Or nothing needs to be said here by Congress/media?

I'm just saying you can't make somebody apologize and mean it. These public apology demonstrations are silly.

Demand something else, but you don't change somebody's heart with a demand. Either they don't get it, they don't care, or they refuse. You have to take another, meaningful route.

enhanced_deficit
10-03-2013, 11:11 PM
I'm just saying you can't make somebody apologize and mean it. These public apology demonstrations are silly.

Demand something else, but you don't change somebody's heart with a demand. Either they don't get it, they don't care, or they refuse. You have to take another, meaningful route.

Family of victim might sue responsible parties, media owners, Congress leaders if they are as connected as Treyvon Martin's parents were and if they got help from civil liberties/rights leaders like ACLU, Sharpton, Obama etc.

Talking about it a least starts to raise Qs on conduct and responsibilities. This willful ignorance/ or calculated misinformation campaign seems like a small slice replica of another cmpaign where media/NYT/CNN tell people that Iraq had WMDs and Congress jumped to vote for invasion.

enhanced_deficit
10-06-2013, 10:02 AM
http://www.secretsofthefed.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/BUTTON.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=PN0oRxrSx_zItM&tbnid=Gas03riq90BjnM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.secretsofthefed.com%2Fsenate-doorkeeper-gives-thank-capitol-police-buttons-officers-execute-mother%2F&ei=o4hRUozcI47C4AOCsIG4Dg&bvm=bv.53537100,d.eWU&psig=AFQjCNHytyoznDlu0GgpOv789RVNoefDgw&ust=1381161451275244)

Senate Doorkeeper Gives Out “Thank You Capitol Police” Buttons ...2 days ago - Senate Doorkeeper Gives Out “Thank You Capitol Police” Buttons After ...

enhanced_deficit
10-04-2014, 08:45 AM
Competent safety.

Report: Man posing as lawmaker cons Secret Service backstage at Obama speech


Daily Digest
- ‎4 hours ago‎













In the midst of several Secret Service scandals, including a fence jumper who made it past the front doors of the White House, a new incident has surfaced.

Valli6
10-04-2014, 09:51 AM
More like, an acknowledgement of her undeserved death and a hearing is in order. Apologies don't amount to much (though i did vote yes).

Seeing the anger this past week during hearings about the failures to protect the president - it's rather astonishing that the same incompetents weren't grilled over killing an unarmed Mom with a kid in the back seat.

Anti Federalist
10-04-2014, 11:45 AM
Apology?

Don't hold your breath, especially if you are waiting for an investigation and some justice done to her street side murderers.

The best that is going to happen is that your tax dollars are going to pay out a multimillion dollar award to her daughter and remaining family.

Stay away, the hutt-hutting Praetorians that swarm around DC will be even more trigger happy, now that they are being exposed as useless during this most recent "security breach".

I wouldn't come within 100 miles of Mordor on the Potomac.

jmdrake
10-04-2014, 02:11 PM
You know, I thought about this the other day. So this white guy gets all the way inside the Whitehouse and he gets arrested and not shot. A black woman makes a wrong turn, ends up in the middle of a security drill, panics, tries to drive away, the police remove her child from the vehicle and then shoot her and everyone applauds. Why am I bringing up race? Because if Obama had been white you best believe the race angle on this story would have been pumped.

Ronin Truth
10-04-2014, 02:23 PM
How'd that patrernity test on Miriam's baby turn out?

jmdrake
10-04-2014, 02:33 PM
How'd that patrernity test on Miriam's baby turn out?

Ummmm...huh?

enhanced_deficit
10-05-2014, 04:40 PM
How'd that patrernity test on Miriam's baby turn out?

Don't recall any MSM news linking Obama to her?

Ronin Truth
10-06-2014, 10:13 AM
Ummmm...huh?

Obama as daddy theory.

enhanced_deficit
10-06-2014, 10:16 AM
Apology?

Don't hold your breath, especially if you are waiting for an investigation and some justice done to her street side murderers.
..

You may be right... but it is still very wrong.



You know, I thought about this the other day. So this white guy gets all the way inside the Whitehouse and he gets arrested and not shot. A black woman makes a wrong turn, ends up in the middle of a security drill, panics, tries to drive away, the police remove her child from the vehicle and then shoot her and everyone applauds. Why am I bringing up race? Because if Obama had been white you best believe the race angle on this story would have been pumped.

If race was brought up.. it may have got more coverage.

In fact your argument is pretty solid.

Ronin Truth
10-06-2014, 10:16 AM
Don't recall any MSM news linking Obama to her?

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Miriam+Carey+baby+Obama&gbv=2&oq=Miriam+Carey+baby+Obama&gs_l=heirloom-hp.12...4727578.4744859.0.4748359.23.11.0.8.8.0.17 82.3954.2-1j0j3j1j8-1.6.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-hp..15.8.4189.5HPozxCPFKo

enhanced_deficit
10-26-2014, 07:57 AM
In related news, Canadians cops, unlike some DC cops who tackled Miriam Carey, seem to be able to arrest unarmed suspects without executing them:

Ottawa shooting: Man charged after interrupting Stephen Harper laying wreath

Police say 'no threat found' after search

CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/cbc-news-online-news-staff-list-1.1294364) Posted: Oct 23, 2014 9:34 AM ET Last Updated: Oct 23, 2014 4:02 PM ET
http://i.cbc.ca/1.2810172.1414075204%21/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/image.jpg (http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Politics/ID/2567922224/)

Police takedown as Harper arrives on the Hill 4:34

Ottawa police have charged a man who crossed police tape near the National War Memorial while Prime Minister Stephen Harper was preparing to lay a wreath this morning.
No shots were fired during the arrest Thursday, which happened on Sparks Street just west of where Cpl. Nathan Cirillo was shot and killed Wednesday.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-shooting-man-charged-after-interrupting-stephen-harper-laying-wreath-1.2810121


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5_JBZVMXfCg/0.jpg

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7plDxu-0rBA&feature=player_detailpage#t=171s)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7plDxu-0rBA&feature=player_detailpage#t=171s)http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/10/04/capitol-shootout.jpg?itok=MLMn1KEH

Ronin Truth
10-26-2014, 08:25 AM
How'd that Carey baby paternity test turn out?

enhanced_deficit
10-27-2014, 09:21 AM
How'd that Carey baby paternity test turn out?

Was that supposed to be done?

Did not see any MSM reports on this.

enhanced_deficit
11-09-2014, 12:13 PM
Failures of the Secret Service October 19, 2014

http://thesouthernnews.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/white-house.jpg?w=640&h=280&crop=1



As George Clooney’s luxurious wedding continues to make international headlines, one name is barely mentioned at all: Miriam Carey. For those that don’t know, Oct. 3 marks the first anniversary of the death of Miriam Carey, the dental hygienist from Stamford, Conn. who was tragically killed by police. She was pursued in a car chase after reportedly posing a security threat to the White House.


Although Carey’s family later pressed charges for this unjustified killing, federal authorities refused to prosecute the Secret Service and other law enforcement officials involved in the shooting. Despite this, the Secret Service has since lost legitimacy in the eyes of many for its recent security breaches. The agents, far from being secret about anything, have been deemed trigger happy, indiscriminate pawns of the political elite.

rsial.

When it was discovered in 2009 that a couple posing as White House guests managed to get entry into a private party being attended by President Obama, the Secret Service came under increasing scrutiny. Two years later, shots were fired at the White House that weren’t detected until days later. Perhaps, most notoriously, in 2012, Secret Service agents were busted for hiring prostitutes in Colombia (one agent, reportedly, left his gun unattended with one of the women).
As for recent security breaches, President Obama was riding in an elevator with an armed security guard who had felony convictions during a Sept. 16 trip to the CDC.


Also, the break in of a knife-wielding intruder making his way to the east room after being tackled by an off-duty agent raised some disturbing questions about the agency. For one thing, just how safe are the president, congress and other important officials in D.C.? More fundamentally, these breaches also force one to consider: how safe are U.S. citizens from threats, whether domestic, foreign, terroristic, or biological in nature ?
Secret Service agents are by far one of the most highly trained security forces on the U.S. mainland. If city police officers know not to shoot at unarmed individuals, how does the Secret Service get a pass to do so? Likewise, if women have a right to stop at a safer location when being pulled over by a police officer, why wasn’t this considered when Carey was supposedly evading Secret Service agents and D.C. police?
Anyone who has ever been pulled over by a cop knows just how frightening the experience is. Imagine what Carey was feeling as she, presumably, was driving to a safer location with her daughter in the back seat— fear, nervousness, uncertainty, everything but trust, what one should feel when dealing with police and security forces.


This “shoot first, ask questions later” mentality is indeed inconsistent with other actions taken by Secret Service agents. Time and again, agents have failed to protect the president, his residence, and the surrounding area. Not only were gunshots mistakenly overlooked but the president‘s life was put in jeopardy when he was left with a private security guard. And why were no shots fired, let alone drawn, when the recent intruder made his way to the East Room?

http://thesouthernnews.org/2014/10/19/failures-of-the-secret-service/