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tod evans
09-28-2013, 03:50 AM
I can't see more "resource officers" being a net positive for schools or society in general..


Obama administration to allocate $45M for cops in schools

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/28/obama-administration-to-spend-45m-on-cops-in-schools/

The Obama administration plans to spend millions of dollars to place armed police officers in schools throughout the country in a move advocated by the National Rifle Association in the wake of last December's shooting massacre in Newtown, Conn.

The Department of Justice announced Friday it's giving nearly $45 million to fund 356 new school resource officer positions. Funding will be provided by grants from the department's Community Oriented Policing Services, or COPS, office.

"Just over nine months after the senseless mass shooting at Sandy Hook, we remain committed to providing every resource we can to ensure that the children of Newtown can feel safe and secure at school and elsewhere," Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement. "And as we hold lost loved ones in our thoughts and prayers, we resolve to continue to support and protect this community — and to help them heal together."

Holder announced the department has allocated $150,000 to put police officers in schools in Newtown. The grant from the department's Bureau of Justice Assistance is intended to fund two positions, such as resource officers.

The NRA was initially criticized by Democrats for focusing so closely on school security, and rejecting gun control measures, following the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.in which 26 people were killed. NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre in December called for armed officers to be installed in every school in the country.

In the NRA's first in-depth public comments since the shooting, LaPierre argued that if banks and members of Congress can have protection, schools across America should be afforded the same security.

"It's now time for us to assume responsibly for our schools," he said. "The only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be permanently involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection."

He added: "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

In August, the Department of Justice authorized spending another $2.5 million in Newtown to help compensate police for overtime, forensic work and security since the shooting. The gunman, who had killed his mother at home before going to the school, killed himself as police closed in.

Police have been present since January at the school Sandy Hook students are using. The town's high school and one of its middle schools also have resource officers.

The district's acting school superintendent, John Reed, declined to comment Friday on the Department of Justice announcement through an assistant, who said the schools had not been notified about the funds.

Newtown established a school security committee last year and has been working with New York's John Jay College of Criminal Justice on a security analysis of all its schools.

Reed sent a letter to parents last month informing them of several security improvements, including the installation of security cameras in all schools.

The committee has said its goal is to have the full-time presence of one police officer and at least one trained security officer at each school building during regular school hours and it expects that to occur shortly after winter break.

Also on Friday, the State Bond Commission approved a $3.7 million grant for Newtown to finance the planning, design and site preparation costs for a new Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Zippyjuan
09-28-2013, 04:32 AM
NRA has been calling for that for a while now.

I thought it was longer ago but seems to come from last December.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/22/us/nra-calls-for-armed-guards-at-schools.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0



WASHINGTON — After a weeklong silence, the National Rifle Association announced Friday that it wants to arm security officers at every school in the country. It pointed the finger at violent video games, the news media and lax law enforcement — not guns — as culprits in the recent rash of mass shootings.

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” Wayne LaPierre, the N.R.A. vice president, said at a media event that was interrupted by protesters. One held up a banner saying, “N.R.A. Killing Our Kids.”

The N.R.A.’s plan for countering school shootings, coming a week after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., was met with widespread derision from school administrators, law enforcement officials and politicians, with some critics calling it “delusional” and “paranoid.” Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, a Republican, said arming schools would not make them safer.

Even conservative politicians who had voiced support this week for arming more school officers did not rush to embrace the N.R.A.’s plan.

Their reluctance was an indication of just how toxic the gun debate has become after the Connecticut shootings, as gun control advocates push for tougher restrictions.

dinosaur
09-28-2013, 05:25 AM
How long before cops start interceding with disrespectful or unruly kids in the classroom?

Anti Federalist
09-28-2013, 07:37 AM
How long before cops start interceding with disrespectful or unruly kids in the classroom?

They already do, on a regular basis.

69360
09-28-2013, 07:41 AM
Last night there was a cop posted at the door of my kids 6-8th grade dance. What exactly do they need a cop there for? Even the kids were questioning it. This is getting out of hand

tod evans
09-28-2013, 07:42 AM
This is getting out of hand

Getting?

69360
09-28-2013, 07:49 AM
Getting?

Yeah getting. When they start having cops search the kids before they go in, it's out of hand. This one was just loitering at the entrance. This is Maine, nothing happens here, it's about as safe as you can get in the US, so a cop at a school is pointless.

Origanalist
09-28-2013, 07:50 AM
Getting?

When will it be out of hand? I need to know.

tod evans
09-28-2013, 07:54 AM
When will it be out of hand? I need to know.

69 answered where his line in the sand is..

As far as I'm concerned it's been out of hand for a couple of decades.

donnay
09-28-2013, 08:20 AM
That's because schools are prisons, at first it was minimum security...but it is slowly going to maximum security, and in some cases around the country, it already is.

JK/SEA
09-28-2013, 08:29 AM
Seattle just got a Federal Loan Grant of 1.5 million to hire 10 more cops.

Joy.

burp.

donnay
09-28-2013, 08:35 AM
Yeah getting. When they start having cops search the kids before they go in, it's out of hand. This one was just loitering at the entrance. This is Maine, nothing happens here, it's about as safe as you can get in the US, so a cop at a school is pointless.


Maine has a lovely slave labor program (Circa 1823)--the inmates make beautiful furniture and other crafts for the Maine State Prison Industries Program. I am sure the cop was just scouting for new workers.

69360
09-28-2013, 08:41 AM
Maine has a lovely slave labor program (Circa 1823)--the inmates make beautiful furniture and other crafts for the Maine State Prison Industries Program. I am sure the cop was just scouting for new workers.

Actually they really do make nice stuff, they sell it in a store. Not an endorsement of the making of, just the quality.

JK/SEA
09-28-2013, 08:42 AM
Maine has a lovely slave labor program (Circa 1823)--the inmates make beautiful furniture and other crafts for the Maine State Prison Industries Program. I am sure the cop was just scouting for new workers.


damn...good point.

placing this nugget of truth in my little memory box.

JK/SEA
09-28-2013, 08:44 AM
Actually they really do make nice stuff, they sell it in a store. Not an endorsement of the making of, just the quality.

of course 'they' make nice stuff. I wonder why...

69360
09-28-2013, 08:50 AM
of course 'they' make nice stuff. I wonder why...

Boredom I figure.

Most crime in Maine is tied to either drugs or alcohol in some way there aren't lots of hardcore offenders.

I don't think we really should have substance abusers locked up, but if we must at least they learned to do something productive.

JK/SEA
09-28-2013, 08:54 AM
Boredom I figure.

Most crime in Maine is tied to either drugs or alcohol in some way there aren't lots of hardcore offenders.

I don't think we really should have substance abusers locked up, but if we must at least they learned to do something productive.

yeah right.


lol.

69360
09-28-2013, 09:07 AM
yeah right.


lol.

Sorry I guess I wasn't clear, I don't think drugs should be illegal to be clear. It's wrong they are imprisoned. I guess I just think making furniture is better than twiddling their thumbs all day.

dinosaur
09-28-2013, 09:11 AM
They already do, on a regular basis.

That is sick. The type of fear that must instill in them is not something a kid is equipped to handle.

donnay
09-28-2013, 10:03 AM
Actually they really do make nice stuff, they sell it in a store. Not an endorsement of the making of, just the quality.



Banks and the “prison industrial complex” are corporate empires that prey on the souls of Humanity. Most of these prisons would be empty if we decriminalize the drug laws. It's a shame one joint will land someone 25 years and a rapist gets 30 days---only in Amerika.

bolil
09-28-2013, 10:25 AM
Anyone against this is against the safety of children.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41iYPtWV15c
right.

Cleaner44
09-28-2013, 10:35 AM
How long before cops start interceding with disrespectful or unruly kids in the classroom?

Just wait until cops start tazing 8 year olds at school. Maybe then people will start to ask questions.

tod evans
09-28-2013, 10:36 AM
Just wait until cops start tazing 8 year olds at school. Maybe then people will start to ask questions.

Right:rolleyes:

69360
09-28-2013, 11:34 AM
Banks and the “prison industrial complex” are corporate empires that prey on the souls of Humanity. Most of these prisons would be empty if we decriminalize the drug laws. It's a shame one joint will land someone 25 years and a rapist gets 30 days---only in Amerika.

Oh I agree. I don't want anyone in prison for drugs. I don't like them, but it's none of my business and no worse than alcohol. Maine has very little crime that is not related to drugs or alcohol in some way.

I was just saying if people are stuck in the prisons, I'd personally rather make furniture than sit around. That's all.

JK/SEA
09-28-2013, 11:40 AM
Oh I agree. I don't want anyone in prison for drugs. I don't like them, but it's none of my business and no worse than alcohol. Maine has very little crime that is not related to drugs or alcohol in some way.

I was just saying if people are stuck in the prisons, I'd personally rather make furniture than sit around. That's all.

apparently those that stand to make profit from this 'program' agree with you.

Maybe this 'program' could be expanded to the fast food industry and beyond.

Problem though. How can we snag new workers to fill these spots?

Any ideas should be forwarded to the Executives who run our prisons.....

get busy.

satchelmcqueen
09-28-2013, 11:47 AM
all this will do is lead to more unnecessary arrests of the kids which will ruin their ability to get jobs later. but it will make more money for the prison/jail complex systems.

coastie
09-28-2013, 11:48 AM
Just wait until cops start tazing 8 year olds at school. Maybe then people will start to ask questions.

Is 10 years old old enough?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0EKap_3W_g

donnay
09-28-2013, 11:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9uGLxRcLpw

angelatc
09-28-2013, 12:22 PM
Everybody who was against earmarking is responsible for handing Obama this kind of power.

angelatc
09-28-2013, 12:24 PM
Is 10 years old old enough?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0EKap_3W_g

I'll raise your 10 and come up with 9:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/03/09/9-year-old-tasered.html

bolil
09-28-2013, 12:47 PM
all this will do is lead to more unnecessary arrests of the kids which will ruin their ability to get jobs later. but it will make more money for the prison/jail complex systems.

Smart maneuver. That way, as the job market dwindles and dwindles under government control, TPTB can cull the slave herd with criminal histories.

"Can't get a job? Well you should have thought about that before you neglecting to do your homework and then you wouldn't have that Resisting Indoctrination charge on your record."

That would be a fun game, future laws. Off toooooooooooooooooooppppppppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccc ccccccsssssssssssss!!

Scrapmo
09-28-2013, 05:49 PM
With more cops in these schools I expect to see more school shootings.