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Marenco
09-27-2013, 11:55 PM
I don't know if this has been posted here before, but it certainly is good to hear this from Wozniak.

Apple Co-Founder Steve Wozniak Says Edward Snowden Is A Hero

Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak has spoken out in favor of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.

In an interview with The Daily Beast's Lloyd Grove, Wozniak talked about how the Internet has changed, and why he supports Snowden:

"I think he's a hero. He's a hero to my beliefs about how the Constitution should work. I don't think the NSA has done one thing valuable for us, in this whole 'Prism' regard, that couldn't have been done by following the Constitution and doing it the old way."

Wozniak went on to discuss his views on terrorism — which he believes is a crime and not a war — and talked about how the word "war" is being manipulated to allow unconstitutional monitoring. He also talked about how supposedly "secure" correspondence has changed.

Reminiscing of a time when snail mail was guaranteed to go unopened by the post office, Woz voiced his concern over the lack of legitimate guarantee that exists with today's email services.

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-wozniak-edward-snowden-is-a-hero-2013-6

enhanced_deficit
09-28-2013, 12:07 AM
Interesting foreign influnces on America in this eaxmple. A Kenyan immigrant gave America an arrester of liberties.

A Syrian immgigrant gave America a champion of liberties.

Correction, other Steve (Jobs) had Syrian father, not Steve Wozniak. But Jobs probably would have thought same if he was alive.

http://www.earthlyissues.com/images/steve_jobs_apple.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=wVYHJrbC4lyT7M&tbnid=HLG0pWUqcay9kM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.earthlyissues.com%2Fstevejobs .htm&ei=F3FGUonUGcey4APKjYAg&psig=AFQjCNHiUgQGPM-3YhkOcFMD3XeCNhBqXQ&ust=1380434563394710)

kpitcher
09-28-2013, 09:45 AM
Last I knew Woz was in the process of becoming an Australian.

Snew
09-28-2013, 09:47 AM
Woz and Jobs are both awesome!

GunnyFreedom
09-28-2013, 10:18 AM
Woz was always the better half.

matt0611
09-28-2013, 11:40 AM
Always liked and respected Steve Wozniak.

I read his auto-biography a few years ago "iWoz". Pretty interesting for anyone who's interested in the history of PC computer technology / Apple.

VoluntaryAmerican
09-28-2013, 11:59 AM
Kind of late to the game.

But glad to hear.

matt0611
09-28-2013, 12:07 PM
Kind of late to the game.

But glad to hear.

Actually I saw him basically say the same things on his interview with Piers Morgan back in June.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97PvEQ2wTU

tsai3904
09-28-2013, 12:13 PM
Kind of late to the game.

But glad to hear.

The article is from June 26.

jct74
09-28-2013, 12:43 PM
I made a split thread about Wozniak being a Ron Paul supporter in case anyone is wondering where the other posts went, it is kind of cool information that hasn't been noted anywhere on the internet previously so I put it in the title for search engine and other reasons.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?428929-Steve-Wozniak-Ron-Paul-supporter-(split-thread)

HOLLYWOOD
09-28-2013, 01:44 PM
Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak has spoken out in favor of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden.I'm glad Snowden is being reported as a whistleblower, since the department of propaganda/US government sent out the memo to not call him a whistleblower, but as a leaker. Of course we all know why... Whistleblowers are given protections by law, no protection for leakers.

brushfire
09-28-2013, 02:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew6fv9UUlQ8

Brian4Liberty
12-18-2017, 10:35 PM
Steve Wozniak: 'I felt about Edward Snowden the way I felt about Daniel Ellsberg'


The Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak has backed NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and admitted he feels "a little bit guilty" that new technologies had introduced new ways for governments to monitor people.

"I felt about Edward Snowden the same way I felt about Daniel Ellsberg, who changed my life, who taught me a lot," he said.

Speaking to Piers Morgan on CNN he said he was not the kind of person to "just take sides in the world – 'I'm always against anything government, any three letter agency,' or 'I'm for them'."

But he added: "Read the facts: it's government of, by and for the people. We own the government; we are the ones who pay for it and then we discover something that our money is being used for – that just can't be, that level of crime."

When Morgan suggested the government would not be able to keep such a close eye on citizens without the work of innovators like him, Wozniak acknowledged: "I actually feel a little guilty about that – but not totally. We created the computers to free the people up, give them instant communication anywhere in the world; any thought you had, you could share freely. That it was going to overcome a lot of the government restrictions.

"We didn't realise that in the digital world there were a lot of ways to use the digital technology to control us, to snoop on us, to make things possible that weren't. In the old days of mailing letters, you licked it, and when you got an envelope that was still sealed, nobody had seen it; you had private communication. Now they say, because it's email, it cannot be private; anyone can listen."

Asked about US surveillance programmes in an earlier interview with a Spanish technology news site, FayerWayer, Wozniak said: "All these things about the constitution, that made us so good as people – they are kind of nothing.

"They are all dissolved with the Patriot Act. There are all these laws that just say 'we can secretly call anything terrorism and do anything we want, without the rights of courts to get in and say you are doing wrong things'. There's not even a free open court any more. Read the constitution. I don't know how this stuff happened. It's so clear what the constitution says."

He said he had been brought up to believe that "communist Russia was so bad because they followed their people, they snooped on them, they arrested them, they put them in secret prisons, they disappeared them – these kinds of things were part of Russia. We are getting more and more like that."

The latest revelations about the NSA, show that judges have approved orders allowing it to make use of information "inadvertently" collected from domestic US communications without a warrant, according to top secret documents submitted to the court that oversees surveillance by US intelligence agencies.
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More: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/21/wozniak-guilty-nsa-surveillance-snowden