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green73
09-27-2013, 10:26 AM
via Drudge:


Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh says that the raid which killed Osama Bin Laden in 2011 is “one big lie” and that “not one word” of the Obama administration’s narrative on what happened is true.

In a wide-ranging interview published today by the Guardian, Hersh savages the US media for failing to challenge the White House on a whole host of issues, from NSA spying, to drone attacks, to aggression against Syria.

On the subject of the Navy Seal raid that supposedly resulted in the death of the Al-Qaeda terror leader, Hersh remarked, “Nothing’s been done about that story, it’s one big lie, not one word of it is true.”

Hersh added that the Obama administration habitually lies but they continue to do so because the press allows them to get away with it.

“It’s pathetic, they are more than obsequious, they are afraid to pick on this guy [Obama],” Hersh told the Guardian.

The raid that supposedly led to Bin Laden’s death has been shrouded in mystery for over two years. Speculation that the Obama administration may have embellished or outright lied about the true account of what happened has persisted, mainly because the White House has refused to publicly release images of Bin Laden’s body.

Although the White House said the corpse was immediately “buried at sea” in line with Islamic tradition, it quickly emerged that this was not standard practice.

Numerous analysts have claimed that Bin Laden had in fact been dead for years and that the raid on his alleged compound in Pakistan was little more than a stunt.

Other questions also persist, such as why the narrative and timeline of the raid has changed multiple times, why the White House initially claimed that “situation room” photos showed Obama watching the raid live when in fact there was a blackout on the live feed, and whyneighbors in the immediate area surrounding the compound said with absolute certainty that they had never seen Bin Laden and that they knew of no evidence whatsoever to suggest he lived there.

During the rest of the Guardian interview, which is well worth reading in its entirety, Hersh lambastes the corporate press and particularly the New York Times, which he says spends “so much more time carrying water for Obama than I ever thought they would.”

Hersh’s solution is to shut down news networks like NBC and ABC and fire 90% of mainstream editors, replacing them with real journalists who are outsiders and not afraid to speak truth to power.

“The republic’s in trouble, we lie about everything, lying has become the staple,” concluded Hersh.

http://www.infowars.com/seymour-hersh-bin-laden-death-one-big-lie/

http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media

FSP-Rebel
09-27-2013, 10:50 AM
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Peace Piper
09-27-2013, 11:00 AM
Hersh a "conspiracy theorist"?

This isn't news to the neighbors. But most people chose to believe the lying liar obomba. Why is that?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtPi7tMy8Ls#at=211


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWcDDSg9O7c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk2QiLiwMR0

How many lies does a liar have to tell before no one believes them?

Obomba has made fools out of lots of people. That's why he grins so much. He can't believe it either.

limequat
09-27-2013, 11:57 AM
95% of people will disregard an infowars link.
Here's the Guardian story:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media

angelatc
09-27-2013, 12:00 PM
383634629615316992

You discredit yourself with non-crazy peope when you tweet Info Wars links. Much better off using the Guardian link. People see Infowars and don't read any anything else.

green73
09-27-2013, 12:12 PM
You discredit yourself with non-crazy people when you tweet Info Wars links. Much better off using the Guardian link. People see Infowars and don't read any anything else.

I guess Drudge has discredited himself many times then. He even has permanent link to them. What a crazy fucker!

thoughtomator
09-27-2013, 12:21 PM
Drudge's selling point is reach, not credibility.

enhanced_deficit
09-27-2013, 05:30 PM
Hersh has much better record on credibility than US MSM journos but I find it hard to believe that nPlant would lie to American public on an important issue.

anaconda
09-27-2013, 05:50 PM
Good someone in the main stream is bringing this up. Bin Laden was never there.

fearthereaperx
09-27-2013, 06:03 PM
You discredit yourself with non-crazy peope when you tweet Info Wars links. Much better off using the Guardian link. People see Infowars and don't read any anything else.

non-crazy people= mainstream news--the Government doesn't lie--people. But yes you are correct, that this type of people, will gloss over anything infowars related in a knee jerk fashion.

Todd
09-27-2013, 06:10 PM
I've always thought that the Bin Laden raid was just one big bag of Tostitos anyhow.....:toady:

http://www.threemoviebuffs.com/assets/images/review_images/wagthedog3.jpg

http://culturevisuelle.org/introtovc/files/2011/12/WagDog.png

anaconda
09-27-2013, 06:19 PM
I've always thought that the Bin Laden raid was just one big bag of Tostitos anyhow.....:toady:

http://www.threemoviebuffs.com/assets/images/review_images/wagthedog3.jpg

http://culturevisuelle.org/introtovc/files/2011/12/WagDog.png

A bag of corn chips has far more value than the "official" tale of the Bin Laden "raid." Even when considering the GMO corn and the GMO soybean oil.

fr33
09-27-2013, 07:27 PM
There are more sites reporting on this:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/27/hersh-slams-us-media-claims-bin-laden-narrative-is-not-true/
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/27/seymour-hersh-on-death-of-osama-bin-laden-its-one-big-lie-not-one-word-of-it-is-true/
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/27/sy_hersh_on_osama_bin_laden_raid_not_one_word_of_i t_is_true/singleton/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2013/09/27/seymour-hersh-blasts-journos.html
http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-yorker-journalist-bin-laden-assassination-one-big-lie/

anaconda
09-27-2013, 07:43 PM
There are more sites reporting on this:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/27/hersh-slams-us-media-claims-bin-laden-narrative-is-not-true/
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/27/seymour-hersh-on-death-of-osama-bin-laden-its-one-big-lie-not-one-word-of-it-is-true/
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/27/sy_hersh_on_osama_bin_laden_raid_not_one_word_of_i t_is_true/singleton/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2013/09/27/seymour-hersh-blasts-journos.html
http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-yorker-journalist-bin-laden-assassination-one-big-lie/

Another awesome round-up by you, fr33. This is very. Many thanks and kudos.

NewRightLibertarian
09-27-2013, 07:48 PM
You discredit yourself with non-crazy peope when you tweet Info Wars links. Much better off using the Guardian link. People see Infowars and don't read any anything else.

Those people you refer to are cowards. Keep driving traffic to liberty friendly sites, FSP Rebel.

limequat
09-27-2013, 07:50 PM
But, but, DNA evidence!

tod evans
09-27-2013, 07:59 PM
“It’s pathetic, they are more than obsequious,

The propaganda arm of government putting on the show they call "newz".

puppetmaster
09-27-2013, 08:40 PM
No way just can't believe it...../s

enhanced_deficit
09-28-2013, 12:32 AM
95% of people will disregard an infowars link.
Here's the Guardian story:

http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media

That was good read, his critique of NYT/US media doofuses is on the money.

donnay
09-28-2013, 09:15 AM
There are more sites reporting on this:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/27/hersh-slams-us-media-claims-bin-laden-narrative-is-not-true/
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/27/seymour-hersh-on-death-of-osama-bin-laden-its-one-big-lie-not-one-word-of-it-is-true/
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/27/sy_hersh_on_osama_bin_laden_raid_not_one_word_of_i t_is_true/singleton/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2013/09/27/seymour-hersh-blasts-journos.html
http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-yorker-journalist-bin-laden-assassination-one-big-lie/

And God knows how credible those sites are. :rolleyes:

It's amazing how even Seymour Hersh points out how the MSM is complicit in carrying on the lies.

Infowars have been saying this for years--on the record.

Red Alert: Government Had Osama bin Laden Frozen for Years
http://www.infowars.com/red-alert-government-had-osama-bin-laden-frozen-for-years/

Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag
http://www.infowars.com/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/

"In 2002, Dr. Pieczenik revealed on the Alex Jones Show (http://www.infowars.com/insider-exposes-bin-laden-death-book-hoax/) that Osama bin Laden had actually died that same year, and that a top general had even told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag operation, a statement that he would gladly make in front of a grand jury."

Benazir Bhutto said Osama bin Laden was dead
http://www.infowars.com/articles/world/pakistan_bhutto_said_osama_bin_laden_was_dead.htm

Former CIA Operative: "Of Course Bin Laden is Dead"
http://infowars.net/articles/october2008/071008Baer.htm

NEW VIDEO: Proof Bin Laden Death Another Gov’t Lie
http://www.gcnlive.com/wp/2011/05/12/new-video-proof-bin-laden-death-another-gov%e2%80%99t-lie/

jmdrake
10-03-2013, 09:15 PM
But, but, DNA evidence!

....which the Pentagon later said it lost.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/323364

Feeding the Abscess
10-03-2013, 10:29 PM
And God knows how credible those sites are. :rolleyes:

It's amazing how even Seymour Hersh points out how the MSM is complicit in carrying on the lies.

Infowars have been saying this for years--on the record.

Red Alert: Government Had Osama bin Laden Frozen for Years
http://www.infowars.com/red-alert-government-had-osama-bin-laden-frozen-for-years/

Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag
http://www.infowars.com/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag/

"In 2002, Dr. Pieczenik revealed on the Alex Jones Show (http://www.infowars.com/insider-exposes-bin-laden-death-book-hoax/) that Osama bin Laden had actually died that same year, and that a top general had even told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag operation, a statement that he would gladly make in front of a grand jury."

Benazir Bhutto said Osama bin Laden was dead
http://www.infowars.com/articles/world/pakistan_bhutto_said_osama_bin_laden_was_dead.htm

Former CIA Operative: "Of Course Bin Laden is Dead"
http://infowars.net/articles/october2008/071008Baer.htm

NEW VIDEO: Proof Bin Laden Death Another Gov’t Lie
http://www.gcnlive.com/wp/2011/05/12/new-video-proof-bin-laden-death-another-gov%e2%80%99t-lie/

Bhutto misspoke when she said Omer Sheik killed bin Laden. The context and person she was speaking of was Daniel Pearl. English wasn't her first language, it's easy to see how she'd make that mistake during an interview that covered a number of different topics.

Feeding the Abscess
10-03-2013, 10:31 PM
I guess Drudge has discredited himself many times then. He even has permanent link to them. What a crazy fucker!

He criticizes me and others for being purists/unreasonable/whatever. Considering that, angela's comment is warranted. If you're going to criticize others for being too out there, you're shooting yourself in the foot by linking infowars.

jmdrake
10-03-2013, 10:33 PM
Bhutto misspoke when she said Omer Sheik killed bin Laden. The context and person she was speaking of was Daniel Pearl. English wasn't her first language, it's easy to see how she'd make that mistake during an interview that covered a number of different topics.

Yeah. Okay. But there's no getting around all of the lies surrounding the raid itself. There was video and Obama was watching the raid...then we here none of the helmet cams were working. There were pictures shown to members of congress...then there weren't. There was a photo released in Pakistan until everyone said it was fake, then it was admitted to be a fake. There was DNA evidence....until there wasn't. The most wanted man ever and there's no proof of death? Come on!

Feeding the Abscess
10-04-2013, 01:19 AM
Yeah. Okay. But there's no getting around all of the lies surrounding the raid itself. There was video and Obama was watching the raid...then we here none of the helmet cams were working. There were pictures shown to members of congress...then there weren't. There was a photo released in Pakistan until everyone said it was fake, then it was admitted to be a fake. There was DNA evidence....until there wasn't. The most wanted man ever and there's no proof of death? Come on!

True. What is more telling than any of that, even, was the constantly changing story. There were what, 4 official stories in the 3 days of and after the raid?