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devil21
09-25-2013, 09:09 PM
Recently at the Clinton Global Initiative gathering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGkFMho6Co

enhanced_deficit
09-25-2013, 09:38 PM
Wow, while his thoughts appear same, he seems FAR MORE RELUCTANT to say anything about the same issue he so frankly and openly opined on few years ago. He suddenly went lip tied when Obama's policies were brought up.
Remarkable difference in his body language then and now.

Is there less Free Speech in America now from just few years ago? is it possible that he is scared of SWC's pupms now?

ClydeCoulter
09-25-2013, 09:51 PM
Wow, while his thoughts appear same, he seems FAR MORE RELUCTANT to say anything about the same issue he so frankly and openly opined on few years ago. He suddenly went lip tied when Obama's policies were brought up.
Remarkable difference in his body language then and now.

Is there less Free Speech in America now from just few years ago? is it possible that he is scared of SWC's pupms now?

You are answering your own question in the light of things. But, yes.

Feeding the Abscess
09-25-2013, 09:51 PM
Wow, while his thoughts appear same, he seems FAR MORE RELUCTANT to say anything about the same issue he so frankly and openly opined on few years ago. He suddenly went lip tied when Obama's policies were brought up.
Remarkable difference in his body language then and now.

Is there less Free Speech in America now from just few years ago? is it possible that he is scared of SWC's pupms now?

What is pupms?

eduardo89
09-25-2013, 09:53 PM
What is pupms?

puppet masters. he's been using stupid abbreviations for a while now.

enhanced_deficit
09-25-2013, 10:01 PM
What is pupms?

(http://http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?427800-Freedom-Acronyms-OFC&p=5226304&viewfull=1#post5226304)Freedom Acronyms (http://http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?427800-Freedom-Acronyms-OFC&p=5226304&viewfull=1#post5226304)

ClydeCoulter
09-25-2013, 10:02 PM
puppet masters. he's been using stupid abbreviations for a while now.

I know, I've been using "ObamaCareless" but, just read between the lines.

anaconda
09-25-2013, 10:54 PM
Not very good questions by Luke ("It's happening now. Is there a follow up?"????? huh?)

fearthereaperx
09-25-2013, 11:02 PM
Not very good questions by Luke ("It's happening now. Is there a follow up?"????? huh?)

What should he have said?

Reason
09-25-2013, 11:03 PM
Not very good questions by Luke ("It's happening now. Is there a follow up?"????? huh?)

Noticed that.

fearthereaperx
09-25-2013, 11:03 PM
Recently at the Clinton Global Initiative gathering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGkFMho6Co

Wow you can see the fear and pain in Wesley Clark's face as he walks away.

fearthereaperx
09-25-2013, 11:04 PM
Recently at the Clinton Global Initiative gathering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pGkFMho6Co

Wow you can see the fear and pain in Wesley Clark's face as he walks away.

anaconda
09-25-2013, 11:38 PM
What should he have said?

Something more specific? "General Clark: In your very fine interview with Amy Goodman you described hearing, in 2001, from a General assigned to duty at the Pentagon that the Bush Administration was determined to attack 7 middle eastern countries in 5 years. Would you consider it reasonable for the American voters and taxpayers to consider that the attacks on Iraq, Libya, and now possibly Syria are a clear indication that this 2001 plan is being implemented across administrations, albeit at a somewhat slower pace?" Or somethin.

VoluntaryAmerican
09-26-2013, 12:39 AM
Not very good questions by Luke ("It's happening now. Is there a follow up?"????? huh?)

Yeah he gets so hyped up and freaks people out. But it's understandable, considering the questions he normally asks. But still he could of done that better.

Lucille
09-26-2013, 01:06 AM
I've been waiting for someone to follow up with him. Why am I not surprised it's Luke and not NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN/FOX...

I don't know what to make of Clark's reaction. He probably said too much back then and was warned. Amy Goodman should have another sit down with him.

Peace Piper
09-26-2013, 01:15 AM
Something more specific? "General Clark: In your very fine interview with Amy Goodman you described hearing, in 2001, from a General assigned to duty at the Pentagon that the Bush Administration was determined to attack 7 middle eastern countries in 5 years. Would you consider it reasonable for the American voters and taxpayers to consider that the attacks on Iraq, Libya, and now possibly Syria are a clear indication that this 2001 plan is being implemented across administrations, albeit at a somewhat slower pace?" Or somethin.

It's a 1999 PNAC plan and Clark should know all about it because he led the first attack- Kosovo

http://newamericancentury.org/balkans.htm


Clark commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War during his term as the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000.

He said that about the 7 wars when Bush was president to score points for Demo-Rats.

Wesley K(iller) Clark is not a good person. He is a psychopath. He almost started World War 3 with the Russians in Serbia.

He ordered bombings of Trains, TV Stations, Marketplaces, Bridges and Chinese Embassies.
He is the scum of the earth.

Civilian casualties during Operation Allied Force

1.1 5 April 1999: Bombing of Aleksinac
1.2 12 April 1999: Grdelica train bombing
1.3 14 April 1999: Bombing of a refugee column
1.4 23 April 1999: Serb Radio and Television headquarters bombing
1.5 27 April 1999: First Bombing of Surdulica
1.6 7 May 1999: Cluster bombing of Niš
1.7 7 May 1999: Chinese embassy bombing
1.8 14 May 1999: Bombing of Koriša
1.9 19 May 1999: Belgrade hospital strike
1.10 30 May 1999: Bombing of Varvarin
1.11 30 May 1999: Second Bombing of Surdulica
1.12 31 May 1999: Bombing of Novi Pazar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_during_Operation_Allied_Force

No one should trust a single thing that pours out of the big hole in Clark's face

devil21
09-26-2013, 01:20 AM
^^^^^^^^^@Peace Piper
That's fine and all but he still told us what was going to happen. And it's happening so Im glad I didn't ignore him the first time I saw that video. The power of discernment can help with knowing they're bullshitting you and when their guard is down and they say what they really think. Clark may have been trying to score political points but that doesn't mean it's a lie. We win political points all the time by telling the truth.

fr33
09-26-2013, 05:22 AM
Wow you can see the fear and pain in Wesley Clark's face as he walks away.

He looked really scared.

TruckinMike
09-26-2013, 06:07 AM
He looked really scared.

The powers that be are probably going to off one his nephews or nieces ...just as a little warning. And he knows it...

anaconda
09-26-2013, 02:21 PM
He looked really scared.

It was a strange and intriguing look when he was walking away from Luke and turned his head to look back. It was worth a thousand words.

A Son of Liberty
09-26-2013, 02:26 PM
It's a 1999 PNAC plan and Clark should know all about it because he led the first attack- Kosovo

He said that about the 7 wars when Bush was president to score points for Demo-Rats.

Wesley K(iller) Clark is not a good person. He is a psychopath.

THIS.

+rep

LibertyEagle
09-26-2013, 02:54 PM
He's just a damn one-world government creep.

HOLLYWOOD
09-26-2013, 04:35 PM
General Wesley Clark did comment recently about his infamous '7 Countries in 5 Years'... He was dumb enough to recently mention that same Pentagon person again, by stating, "You didn't get that info from me, okay'. Then Clark tells the world... obviously, since it's all true, Clark is just covering his ass, when the hammer falls.


Here's the problem, the Pentagon person that revealed the U.S. invasion operations of the 7 countries to Clark, is in hot waters for revealing TOP SECRET SCI Yankee White documentation to an uncleared person for that operation.

I'd like to know the group/individuals that conjured-up this longterm invasion operations plan... since it was 2003, we have a pretty good idea by the clowns occupying offices and related agencies e.g., National Security Council, and finally personnel, like that rat-fuck reptilian Dennis Ross.

economics102
09-26-2013, 07:43 PM
Major props to Luke, as always, for doing this. The walking-away shot is fascinating. I wonder what he was thinking as he turned to look back at Luke.

devil21
09-26-2013, 07:49 PM
Hastings crash death, accident or not, hasn't been missed by those paying attention. Clark's parting look has a certain "watch yourself....they're not fooling around anymore" quality to it.

Peace Piper
09-26-2013, 11:03 PM
Hastings crash death, accident or not, hasn't been missed by those paying attention. Clark's parting look has a certain "watch yourself....they're not fooling around anymore" quality to it.

This is probably how Killer Clark looked when he ordered the bombing of Radio Television Serbia in downtown Belgrade, killing 16 including Jelica Munitlak (28), make up artist. We were told to celebrate this act of barbarism because this kept Milosovic from spreading propaganda.

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7547/rxk4.jpg
(actual cropped screen cap from Luke's video)

Luke should avoid small planes and might look under the cars he rides in.


Complete list of those killed when Killer Clark bombed a tv station:

Darko Stoimenovski (26), technician
Nebojsa Stojanovic (27), technician
Dragorad Dragojevic (27), security guard
Ksenija Bankovic (28), video mixer
Jelica Munitlak (28), make-up artist
Dejan Markovic (30), security guard
Aleksandar Deletic (31), cameraman
Dragan Tasic (31), technician
Slavisa Stevanovic (32), producer
Sinisa Medic (33), programme designer
Ivan Stukalo (34), foreign programming specialist
Milan Joksimovic (47), security officer
Branislav Jovanovic (50), programme operator
Slobodan Jontic (54), set director
Milovan Jankovic (59), mechanic
Tomislav Mitrovic (61), programme director.

Your legacy, Killer Clark. You belong in the Hague.

Peace Piper
09-26-2013, 11:12 PM
I'd like to know the group/individuals that conjured-up this longterm invasion operations plan... since it was 2003, we have a pretty good idea by the clowns occupying offices and related agencies e.g., National Security Council, and finally personnel, like that rat-fuck reptilian Dennis Ross.

It's the PNAC plan and it dates from the late 90's

http://newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm


PNAC Statement of Principles

June 3, 1997

American foreign and defense policy is adrift. Conservatives have criticized the incoherent policies of the Clinton Administration. They have also resisted isolationist impulses from within their own ranks. But conservatives have not confidently advanced a strategic vision of America's role in the world. They have not set forth guiding principles for American foreign policy. They have allowed differences over tactics to obscure potential agreement on strategic objectives. And they have not fought for a defense budget that would maintain American security and advance American interests in the new century.

We aim to change this. We aim to make the case and rally support for American global leadership.

As the 20th century draws to a close, the United States stands as the world's preeminent power. Having led the West to victory in the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does the United States have the vision to build upon the achievements of past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?...

MORE
http://newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm


It's all right there, including the need for a "New Pearl Harbor" (sic)

View the Project for the New American Century's report, Rebuilding America's Defenses released September 2000.
(PDF) http://newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Edit to add paragraph containing the phrase "New Pearl Harbor"

Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a
new Pearl Harbor. Domestic politics and
industrial policy will shape the pace and
content of transformation as much as the
requirements of current missions.

devil21
09-27-2013, 02:40 AM
I get what you're saying Peace Piper. He's not to be trusted as a political ally. His record as a warmonger is terrible. That's why his statements carry so much weight. I trust them when they say they're going to bomb something. What I'm skeptical about is when they say they're not going to bomb something.

anaconda
09-27-2013, 04:55 PM
Major props to Luke, as always, for doing this. The walking-away shot is fascinating. I wonder what he was thinking as he turned to look back at Luke.

Yeah, this is what I noticed most in this video..

anaconda
09-27-2013, 05:01 PM
Hastings crash death, accident or not, hasn't been missed by those paying attention. Clark's parting look has a certain "watch yourself....they're not fooling around anymore" quality to it.

Razor sharp observation. And I saw a kind of a "I don't know where you come from but I'm not very comfortable about it" look from Wesley. Almost as if he had wondered if a Rubicon had been crossed with the new media. Even though Luke has no grand credentials, I think Wesley was wondering to what extent this represented real blow back from The People. He looks like a man mired and conflicted by the Winds Of Change, that he had not perhaps anticipated.