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crasster
11-28-2007, 03:02 PM
That would leave people thinking! Both a brothel and Christians support Ron Paul?

WOW!

Rex
11-28-2007, 03:08 PM
possibly his brother, the Pastor.. hehe

Mark
11-28-2007, 03:11 PM
The Order Of Melchizedek endorses Dr Paul.

That's quite a major Christian endorsement,
just few understand it to be so.



The Order Of Melchizedek Website (http://theorderofmelchizedek.org)


Psalm 110 A Psalm of David.

1 THE LORD (God) says to my Lord (the Messiah), Sit at My right hand, until I make Your adversaries Your footstool.(A (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20110%20;&version=45;#cen-AMP-15788A))


2 The Lord will send forth from Zion the scepter of Your strength; rule, then, in the midst of Your foes.(B (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20110%20;&version=45;#cen-AMP-15789B))


3 Your people will offer themselves willingly in the day of Your power,
in the beauty of holiness and in holy array out of the womb of the morning;
to You [will spring forth] Your young men, who are as the dew.


4 The Lord has sworn and will not revoke or change it: You are a priest forever, after the manner and order of Melchizedek.(C (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20110%20;&version=45;#cen-AMP-15791C))



5 The Lord at Your right hand will shatter kings in the day of His indignation.


6 He will execute judgment [in overwhelming punishment] upon the nations;
He will fill the valleys with the dead bodies,
He will crush the [chief] heads over lands many and far extended.(D (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20110%20;&version=45;#cen-AMP-15793D))


7 He will drink of the brook by the way; therefore will He lift up His head [triumphantly].
Hallelujah!

archemeedees
11-28-2007, 03:12 PM
Dude, how about the Pope? =D

hillertexas
11-28-2007, 03:12 PM
work on Dr. James Dobson

Danny Molina
11-28-2007, 03:13 PM
The Pope would be HUGE!!!

lol

newmedia4ron
11-28-2007, 03:14 PM
Joel Osteen (Televangelist)
h ttp://joelosteen.lakewood.cc/site/PageServer?pagename=JOM_contactus

RoyalShock
11-28-2007, 03:14 PM
I endorse Ron Paul.

I'm a Christian.

I'm just not major.

Dang.

It will be a difficult task. Unfortunately it appears that the Christian icons have decided that the culture war needs to be fought at the federal level. That will likely exclude an endorsement from Dobson. Most church pastors can't endorse candidates because they don't have a pulpit outside the church. And outside of Dobson, I'm not sure there are many others. Hank Hanegraff? Lee Strobel? Kirk Cameron? (seriously)

FrankRep
11-28-2007, 03:15 PM
Joel Osteen (Televangelist)
h ttp://joelosteen.lakewood.cc/site/PageServer?pagename=JOM_contactus

Interesting.

Mark
11-28-2007, 03:18 PM
I endorse Ron Paul.

I'm a Christian.

I'm just not major.

Dang.

It will be a difficult task. Unfortunately it appears that the Christian icons have decided that the culture war needs to be fought at the federal level. That will likely exclude an endorsement from Dobson. Most church pastors can't endorse candidates because they don't have a pulpit outside the church. And outside of Dobson, I'm not sure there are many others. Hank Hanegraff? Lee Strobel? Kirk Cameron? (seriously)

Rev Mark Cahall, how about him?

Oh, that's right, to mankind I'm not major.

I am to God though. And that's what matters to me.

yongrel
11-28-2007, 03:20 PM
Rev Mark Cahall, how about him?

Oh, that's right, to mankind I'm not major.

I am to God though. And that's what matters to me.

So perhaps we should add a qualifier?

Major, high-visibility, Christian figures would be good to get an endorsement from.

Hawkwing
11-28-2007, 03:21 PM
It was really sad that the two working ladies refused to endorse him. That would have been great.

AggieforPaul
11-28-2007, 03:22 PM
Joel Osteen isnt very well liked by a lot of mainstream evangelicals. He's looked upon as a "health and wealth" televangelist fraud.

LinearChaos
11-28-2007, 03:24 PM
Dude, how about the Pope? =DSomething like that would be unreal. I emailed the Vatican about it a while back but didn't get a reply:

http://email.about.com/cs/emailtrivia/a/pope_email.htm



The email address of Pope Benedict XVI is benedictxvi@vatican.va

It is unlikely you will receive a personal response if you send an email to the pope, but the Holy See does read, collect and route all mail. The Pope possibly has another private email address inside the Vatican.

Mark
11-28-2007, 03:26 PM
So perhaps we should add a qualifier?

Major, high-visibility, Christian figures would be good to get an endorsement from.

Just give me time, I've just started the "Major, high-visibility, Christian figures" thing.

You'll see, if it's The Father's Will.

newmedia4ron
11-28-2007, 03:28 PM
Joel Osteen isnt very well liked by a lot of mainstream evangelicals. He's looked upon as a "health and wealth" televangelist fraud.

besides dobson who else then?

James and Betty Robison
ttp://www.lifetoday.org/site/PageServer?pagename=con_home

Rod Parsley
ttp://www.rodparsley.com/Contact.aspx

Kenneth Copeland
ttp://www.kcm.org/contact/unitedstates.php

Benny Hinn
ttp://www.bennyhinn.org/aboutus/contactus.cfm

who should we target?

adpierce
11-28-2007, 03:32 PM
Joel Osteen (Televangelist)
h ttp://joelosteen.lakewood.cc/site/PageServer?pagename=JOM_contactus

I hope to God that Joel Osteen does not support Dr. Paul... that would be a major setback. I don't care how big his following is... he spouts substanceless drivel. All educated believers can see through his malarkey a mile away. If all Christians were like Joel Osteen then Marx's statment that Religion is the opiate of the masses would be absolutely true.

AggieforPaul
11-28-2007, 03:33 PM
besides dobson who else then?

James and Betty Robison
ttp://www.lifetoday.org/site/PageServer?pagename=con_home

Rod Parsley
ttp://www.rodparsley.com/Contact.aspx

Kenneth Copeland
ttp://www.kcm.org/contact/unitedstates.php

Benny Hinn
ttp://www.bennyhinn.org/aboutus/contactus.cfm

who should we target?

Its hard to say, because active Pastors cant officially endorse if they want their church to be tax exempt. Dobson, Robertson, and Falwell were the Big 3 that had the exposure, and 2 of them are obviously out of the question now. A Dobson endorsement would be huge. It would also help if local pastors would tell their congregations to not vote for anyone who is currently pro abortion, or who has ever been pro abortion while in a legislative position.

JMann
11-28-2007, 03:33 PM
I'm sure most of the clients of the brothel are Christians so it is more or less one in the same.

"If all Christians were like Joel Osteen then Marx's statment that Religion is the opiate of the masses would be absolutely true."


This is already true even without the scam artist Osteen.

newmedia4ron
11-28-2007, 03:34 PM
Who do Christians look up to? (besides God)

Cowlesy
11-28-2007, 03:35 PM
Mighty General Zod?

http://www.zod2008.com/

AggieforPaul
11-28-2007, 03:35 PM
Who do Christians look up to? (besides God)

That Jesus of Nazareth guy is pretty well respected IIRC. Maybe we could ask the campaign to contact him?

adpierce
11-28-2007, 03:36 PM
Mark Driscoll, Rob Bell, John Piper.... Get those three on board and it'd be HUGE! I'd imagine they've been off the George W. Bush train for quite a while anyways... well at least Driscoll and Bell definitely are.

literatim
11-28-2007, 03:39 PM
Someone want to send Dr. James Dobson a Ron Paul care package? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=42241)

RoyalShock
11-28-2007, 03:42 PM
I've already mentioned the big three in my book.

Dobson
Hanegraaff
Strobel

Rick Warren would be huge, but he's not a guy I look up to.

Revolution9
11-28-2007, 03:45 PM
The Order Of Melchizedek endorses Dr Paul.

That's quite a major Christian endorsement,
just few understand it to be so.



The Order Of Melchizedek Website (http://theorderofmelchizedek.org)


Psalm 110 A Psalm of David.

1 THE LORD (God) says to my Lord (the Messiah), Sit at My right hand, until I make Your adversaries Your footstool.(A (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20110%20;&version=45;#cen-AMP-15788A))


2 The Lord will send forth from Zion the scepter of Your strength; rule, then, in the midst of Your foes.(B (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20110%20;&version=45;#cen-AMP-15789B))


3 Your people will offer themselves willingly in the day of Your power,
in the beauty of holiness and in holy array out of the womb of the morning;
to You [will spring forth] Your young men, who are as the dew.


4 The Lord has sworn and will not revoke or change it: You are a priest forever, after the manner and order of Melchizedek.(C (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20110%20;&version=45;#cen-AMP-15791C))



5 The Lord at Your right hand will shatter kings in the day of His indignation.


6 He will execute judgment [in overwhelming punishment] upon the nations;
He will fill the valleys with the dead bodies,
He will crush the [chief] heads over lands many and far extended.(D (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20110%20;&version=45;#cen-AMP-15793D))


7 He will drink of the brook by the way; therefore will He lift up His head [triumphantly].
Hallelujah!


Wowee.. That is so l33t. Love all the war ghawd primer crap you follow your proclamation up with.

My bloodline gave the twelve hides of land to Joseph of Arimathaea and Mary Magdalene to build St Mary's chapel and that movement of Liberty has degenerated to this.. Melchizedek indeed.

Frankly..it appalls me.

Randy

Mark
11-28-2007, 03:45 PM
Its hard to say, because active Pastors cant officially endorse if they want their church to be tax exempt. Dobson, Robertson, and Falwell were the Big 3 that had the exposure, and 2 of them are obviously out of the question now. A Dobson endorsement would be huge. It would also help if local pastors would tell their congregations to not vote for anyone who is currently pro abortion, or who has ever been pro abortion while in a legislative position.

Indeed, that's why Pat Robertson did a "personal" endorsement, not an endorsement by his Not For Profit Religious Organization.

However, my church, The Order Of Melchizedek Inc,

a Legally Registered and Incorporated Not For Profit Religious Organization in North Carolina, of 9 years,

http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/Corp.aspx?PitemId=4785114

has not, and will not, apply for Federal 501(c)3 status,
and thus is not under the regulatory limits imposed by the Federal Government.

We're free to speak as we choose, and endorse who we choose.

We now, for the first time in our 9 year history, are requesting donations,
in order to further our effort to inform voters about their choices in 2008.

ChipIn (for now)

http://toomchurch.chipin.com/please-help-our-church

Please support The Order Of Melchizedek, you might even be doing yourself a favor too.

Mark
11-28-2007, 03:47 PM
Wowee.. That is so l33t. Love all the war ghawd primer crap you follow your proclamation up with.

My bloodline gave the twelve hides of land to Joseph of Arimathaea and Mary Magdalene to build St Mary's chapel and that movement of Liberty has degenerated to this.. Melchizedek indeed.

Frankly..it appalls me.

Randy

Well then, what God The Father said in the Bible about His Son, Jesus The Christ, appalls you.

I did mention at first, that, few, understand it, I see that you're one of the many who don't.

V-rod
11-28-2007, 03:49 PM
We Have Pastor Chuck Baldwin's Endorsement.

Mark
11-28-2007, 03:50 PM
Wowee.. That is so l33t. Love all the war ghawd primer crap you follow your proclamation up with.

My bloodline gave the twelve hides of land to Joseph of Arimathaea and Mary Magdalene to build St Mary's chapel and that movement of Liberty has degenerated to this.. Melchizedek indeed.

Frankly..it appalls me.

Randy

And, how do you know that that applies to humans?

Evil spiritual entities are referred to in the manner of "nations" too.

Maybe The Father was speaking about the downfall and destruction of Evil spirits in "The Last Days".

thehittgirl
11-28-2007, 04:03 PM
Joyce Meyer

Mark
11-28-2007, 04:08 PM
That Jesus of Nazareth guy is pretty well respected IIRC. Maybe we could ask the campaign to contact him?


He's already working for the campaign, in the "grassroots" movement.

Danny Molina
11-28-2007, 04:28 PM
Joyce Meyer

I like her impressions of Bush.

newmedia4ron
11-28-2007, 04:37 PM
Joyce Meyer

Joyce Meyer Ministries
h ttp://www.joycemeyer.org/AboutUs/ContactUs

werdd
11-28-2007, 04:38 PM
Indeed, that's why Pat Robertson did a "personal" endorsement, not an endorsement by his Not For Profit Religious Organization.

However, my church, The Order Of Melchizedek Inc,

a Legally Registered and Incorporated Not For Profit Religious Organization in North Carolina, of 9 years,

http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/Corp.aspx?PitemId=4785114

has not, and will not, apply for Federal 501(c)3 status,
and thus is not under the regulatory limits imposed by the Federal Government.

We're free to speak as we choose, and endorse who we choose.

We now, for the first time in our 9 year history, are requesting donations,
in order to further our effort to inform voters about their choices in 2008.

ChipIn (for now)

http://toomchurch.chipin.com/please-help-our-church

Please support The Order Of Melchizedek, you might even be doing yourself a favor too.

Your coming off as a cultist type imo, just my impression. Tone down your rhetoric a bit please :/.

Mark
11-28-2007, 04:44 PM
Your coming off as a cultist type imo, just my impression. Tone down your rhetoric a bit please :/.

Another one of "the many" who don't "get it".

We're strictly a "regular" Christian Church. We speak Truth no matter what humans understand about it.


I'm just trying to get people's attention as to options available to support Ron Paul.


We, as a Church, are not hindered by Federal Regulations,

and thus can accept any amount of donations to support our Church's Missions, one of which is to support Dr Paul's candidacy.


I'm kind of hoping the 'light bulb' turns on in people's heads while we can still help the campaign.

newmedia4ron
11-28-2007, 04:49 PM
I'm not Christian
You should have the right to practice any religion you want
I think we can all agree on that
lets leave it that

Mark
11-28-2007, 04:56 PM
I'm not Christian
You should have the right to practice any religion you want
I think we can all agree on that
lets leave it that

QFT

I believe you'll be surprised at who God thinks has been living Righteously and doing His Will,

no matter what religion or belief structure that they adhere to.

Wyurm
11-28-2007, 05:02 PM
Joel Osteen isnt very well liked by a lot of mainstream evangelicals. He's looked upon as a "health and wealth" televangelist fraud.

Actually Osteen is really an empowerment advocate which would make him very likely to instantly support Dr. Paul.

I also remember another pastor whose name I can't remember now, giving a speech on the Federal Reserve.

The problem I see is whether or not these people would be willing to provide an endorsement for any campaign.

Eric21ND
11-28-2007, 05:04 PM
where is that nun supporter?

Mark
11-28-2007, 05:22 PM
where is that nun supporter?

South Carolina, I believe.

Mark
11-28-2007, 05:29 PM
Actually Osteen is really an empowerment advocate which would make him very likely to instantly support Dr. Paul.

I also remember another pastor whose name I can't remember now, giving a speech on the Federal Reserve.

The problem I see is whether or not these people would be willing to provide an endorsement for any campaign.

I did a quick search and found 2 'right off the bat'.

Perhaps one of these?

~~~~~~~~

"On Petition for Review of an Order of the Federal Reserve System"


http://www.ll.georgetown.edu/federal/judicial/dc/opinions/95opinions/95-1142a.html


Acting pro se, the Reverend Joseph L. Jones-pastor of the New Bethel Baptist ... In writing to the Federal Reserve and the Department of Housing and Urban...

~~~~~~~~

"The Federal Reserve System"


http://www.justiceplus.org/bankers.htm

Billions.exe is the complete document in "Ms Word" format of "Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People" by American Pastor Sheldon Emry. It can be downloaded by clicking on Billions.exe (http://www.clubplus.net/%7Eclinique/BillionsforBankers.exe) or viewed at: http://www.justiceplus.org/bankers.htm (http://www.justiceplus.org/bankers.htm). This document on banking is very similar to the one written by J. A. Thauberger of Regina in the mid 90s. J.A. Thauberger's version examines corruption at the core of the Canadian monetary system. See: Billions for the Banker, Debts for the People (http://www.justiceplus.org/Canada_billions.htm)
Americans and Canadians have lost control of their money. How can we get it back?

craezie
11-28-2007, 05:51 PM
You guys are barking up the wrong tree. All those big name people (Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer) are the religious versions of the big phoney Washington politicians. They just want to part you with your money by saying whatever people want to hear, and then use it to further their own ends. Why would they endorse someone like Ron Paul?

I am a Christian and I am sad to report that most of the so-called "Christians" out there don't even know what Christianity or the Bible teaches. Neither does any other average person, because there are so few people who have reasons for what they believe or can articulate their faith to anyone else. Just look at the nimnus who populate Huckabee's campaign.

Real, thinking Christians are used to sorting out truth from error, and will know that Ron Paul's life-affirming, liberty-loving message is true. The mind-numbed sheep will not "get" it not matter what.

Mark
11-28-2007, 05:54 PM
You guys are barking up the wrong tree. All those big name people (Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer) are the religious versions of the big phoney Washington politicians. They just want to part you with your money by saying whatever people want to hear, and then use it to further their own ends. Why would they endorse someone like Ron Paul?

I am a Christian and I am sad to report that most of the so-called "Christians" out there don't even know what Christianity or the Bible teaches. Neither does any other average person, because there are so few people who have reasons for what they believe or can articulate their faith to anyone else. Just look at the nimnus who populate Huckabee's campaign.

Real, thinking Christians are used to sorting out truth from error, and will know that Ron Paul's life-affirming, liberty-loving message is true. The mind-numbed sheep will not "get" it not matter what.

QFT ~~ "Quoted For Truth"

vroomery
11-28-2007, 06:02 PM
I am a student at Liberty University (the late Dr. Jerry Falwell's school) and, while i doubt that Paul would get an endorsement from either of his sons, it is in the works for him to visit and speak in our convocation service. I don't know how far along they are to making that happen, but that would be a big deal to start with a young group of conservative christians that have been peppered by huckabee propaganda and show them the message of liberty that Ron Paul brings. Its not an endorsement, but its a start.

Mark
11-28-2007, 06:12 PM
I am a student at Liberty University (the late Dr. Jerry Falwell's school) and, while i doubt that Paul would get an endorsement from either of his sons, it is in the works for him to visit and speak in our convocation service. I don't know how far along they are to making that happen, but that would be a big deal to start with a young group of conservative christians that have been peppered by huckabee propaganda and show them the message of liberty that Ron Paul brings. Its not an endorsement, but its a start.

The Father's Best Possible Blessings to you and yours Brother.

Father, I ask this of You, in The Name of Your Son, Jesus The Christ.

johnrocks
11-28-2007, 06:17 PM
Out of curorisity,I went to the web site of that brothel and he has a link on Ron Paul,I don't know weather that deserves an:mad:or a :cool: