Explanation - Sorry for the TeaParty07.com downtime.

[nathanielyao]

Hi Everyone,

Sorry about all the problems with the teaparty07 site. Just an explanation of what's going on for the techies and for the curious.

When we upgraded the plan for TeaParty07, the tech support at GoDaddy told us to change the nameservers and the A name. Unfortunately, they gave us instructions for domains that were bought with GoDaddy.

The domain was purchased at Yahoo. When the nameserver was changed, it was pointing to some dummy nameservers, so unfortunately, what was propagating was the domain name pointing to some black hole on the internet. Therefore the site started to go down for most people.

We finally caught the problem and pointed the domain to the correct nameservers. The site should be starting to come back online. Keep refreshing your browser to check every few hours or so. Our hope is that it propagates fast enough to make it for tonight's debate.

For those that it is down for, there is nothing we can do except to wait for it to propagate and point to the correct servers. When you get an error message, it is the domain pointing to the internet abyss.

Thank you all for your understanding and patience and sorry for the hiccups.

Nathaniel

[Menthol Patch]

Every freaking few hours?

We need the site back up ASAP!

[blackmouth]

Every freaking few hours?

We need the site back up ASAP!

Dude chill, propagation takes some time. All we can do is wait.

FYI, It's working for me in Manhattan.

[davidhperry]

Every freaking few hours?

We need the site back up ASAP!

We should be glad it only takes this long - it used to take days.

[jd603]

the name server have not been changed as of this minute from what they were 2 hours ago.

Edit: I am querying the internet root servers directly, and godaddy has not pushed to the root server yet, their systems may be delayed and when their batch runs they will hopefully update, maybe!

Server: a.gtld-servers.com
Address: 192.5.6.30#53

------------
QUESTIONS:
teaparty07.com, type = A, class = IN
ANSWERS:
AUTHORITY RECORDS:
-> teaparty07.com
nameserver = ns43.domaincontrol.com.
-> teaparty07.com
nameserver = ns44.domaincontrol.com.
ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
-> ns43.domaincontrol.com
internet address = 208.109.78.180
-> ns44.domaincontrol.com
internet address = 208.109.255.22
------------
Non-authoritative answer:
*** Can't find teaparty07.com: No answer



Hi Everyone,

Sorry about all the problems with the teaparty07 site. Just an explanation of what's going on for the techies and for the curious.

When we upgraded the plan for TeaParty07, the tech support at GoDaddy told us to change the nameservers and the A name. Unfortunately, they gave us instructions for domains that were bought with GoDaddy.

The domain was purchased at Yahoo. When the nameserver was changed, it was pointing to some dummy nameservers, so unfortunately, what was propagating was the domain name pointing to some black hole on the internet. Therefore the site started to go down for most people.

We finally caught the problem and pointed the domain to the correct nameservers. The site should be starting to come back online. Keep refreshing your browser to check every few hours or so. Our hope is that it propagates fast enough to make it for tonight's debate.

For those that it is down for, there is nothing we can do except to wait for it to propagate and point to the correct servers. When you get an error message, it is the domain pointing to the internet abyss.

Thank you all for your understanding and patience and sorry for the hiccups.

Nathaniel

[Menthol Patch]

We need to speed the propogation up! There must be some way to make this happen ASAP!

[davidhperry]

It's working in Nashville on Comcast.

[robert4rp08]

We need to speed the propogation up! There must be some way to make this happen ASAP!

Al Gore can make it happen.

[robert4rp08]

By the way, the 1:6 ratio of pledges to visitors is interesting. I wonder what fraction of those 100k non-pledged visitors actually plan to donate, but just didn't want to register their email.

I think we're in for a nice surprise =D

[john_anderson_ii]

We need to speed the propogation up! There must be some way to make this happen ASAP!

The only way to speed up DNS prorogation is to convince all the commercial ISPs of the world to clear this domain from their cache and refresh it from the root name servers.


It's working via Qwest in Phoenix, AZ.

[davidhperry]

We need to speed the propogation up! There must be some way to make this happen ASAP!

There is some way. Hack into the 13 root DNS servers and modify them directly. You could also try to access all the DNS servers at every ISP on the Internet and refresh their cached DNS settings. Other than that, you have to wait.

[Menthol Patch]

Seriously, how do these domain names propagate?

Can have the machines send out additional requests or messages to other machines to speed this up?

[Menthol Patch]

There is some way. Hack into the 13 root DNS servers and modify them directly. You could also try to access all the DNS servers at every ISP on the Internet and refresh their cached DNS settings. Other than that, you have to wait.

No, obviously this is due to computers communicating with each other. Can we send additional messages to those root servers?

[davidhperry]

Seriously, how do these domain names propagate?

Can have the machines send out additional requests or messages to other machines to speed this up?

No, the DNS info is cached at the local ISP to save bandwidth - they update every few hours to once a day (or more), depending on the ISP.

Read this (http://webhosting.devshed.com/c/a/Web-Hosting-Articles/What-is-DNS-propagation-and-why-does-it-take-so-long/) or that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_name_system).

Patience grasshopper.

[nathanielyao]

the name server have not been changed as of this minute from what they were 2 hours ago.

Edit: I am querying the internet root servers directly, and godaddy has not pushed to the root server yet, their systems may be delayed and when their batch runs they will hopefully update, maybe!

Server: a.gtld-servers.com
Address: 192.5.6.30#53

------------
QUESTIONS:
teaparty07.com, type = A, class = IN
ANSWERS:
AUTHORITY RECORDS:
-> teaparty07.com
nameserver = ns43.domaincontrol.com.
-> teaparty07.com
nameserver = ns44.domaincontrol.com.
ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
-> ns43.domaincontrol.com
internet address = 208.109.78.180
-> ns44.domaincontrol.com
internet address = 208.109.255.22
------------
Non-authoritative answer:
*** Can't find teaparty07.com: No answer

Previously, the domain was pointed to NS05 and NS06 which were dummy nameservers. They root servers will update soon. NS43 and NS44 are the actual nameservers for outside domains. It has started to work now, this is what DNSColos reports:



Category Status Test name Information
Parent Pass Parent nameservers teaparty07.com Your NS records at the parent server l.gtld-servers.net are:

ns43.domaincontrol.com [208.109.78.180]
ns44.domaincontrol.com [208.109.255.22]
Pass Nameservers for domain in DNS teaparty07.com Your NS records at your nameservers are:

ns43.domaincontrol.com [208.109.78.180]
ns44.domaincontrol.com [208.109.255.22]

SOA Pass SOA record for domain teaparty07.com Your SOA record is:
Primary nameserver: ns43.domaincontrol.com
Hostmaster E-mail address: dns.jomax.net
Serial #: 2007112700
Refresh: 28800
Retry: 7200
Expire: 604800
Default TTL: 86400
Info SOA Serial The SOA serial number is 2007112700. The preferred format is YYYYMMDDnn.
WWW Info record for www.teaparty07.com teaparty07.com A 68.178.254.39 TTL=[3600]
www.teaparty07.com CNAME teaparty07.com TTL=[3600]
Pass WWW IP is public WWW has public IP conform RFC 1918
Pass CNAME record for teaparty07.com CNAME records exists with a corresponding A record, wich is good
Info Webserver type (if available) for domain teaparty07.com

[jd603]

Still down, no dns servers were updated, propagation has nothing to do with it at this point and Service Unavailable messages are still appearing intermittently.

dig @a.gtld-servers.com teaparty07.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> @a.gtld-servers.com teaparty07.com
; (2 servers found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62997
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;teaparty07.com. IN A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
teaparty07.com. 172800 IN NS ns43.domaincontrol.com.
teaparty07.com. 172800 IN NS ns44.domaincontrol.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns43.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN A 208.109.78.180
ns44.domaincontrol.com. 172800 IN A 208.109.255.22

;; Query time: 48 msec
;; SERVER: 192.5.6.30#53(192.5.6.30)
;; WHEN: Wed Nov 28 16:09:53 2007
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 116

[jd603]

dig @ns43.domaincontrol.com teaparty07.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> @ns43.domaincontrol.com teaparty07.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61244
;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;teaparty07.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
teaparty07.com. 3600 IN A 68.178.254.39

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
teaparty07.com. 3600 IN NS ns43.domaincontrol.com.
teaparty07.com. 3600 IN NS ns44.domaincontrol.com.

;; Query time: 91 msec
;; SERVER: 208.109.78.180#53(208.109.78.180)
;; WHEN: Wed Nov 28 16:12:00 2007
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 100


Ok well the ip hasn't changed. ..and errors still showing up. I'm querying name servers directly here and bypassing any "propagation"



Previously, the domain was pointed to NS05 and NS06 which were dummy nameservers. They root servers will update soon. NS43 and NS44 are the actual nameservers for outside domains. It has started to work now, this is what DNSColos reports:

[davidhperry]

One other thing, if they truly have everything pointed to where it needs to be, then the great majority of the propagation will be done in the next few hours. Most of the ISPs now update their DNS stuff pretty quick - especially the big ones that service a lot of people.

[me3]

One other thing, if they truly have everything pointed to where it needs to be, then the great majority of the propagation will be done in the next few hours. Most of the ISPs now update their DNS stuff pretty quick - especially the big ones that service a lot of people.
QFT

[davidhperry]

Still down, no dns servers were updated, propagation has nothing to do with it at this point and Service Unavailable messages are still appearing intermittently.

I've pulled up the site fine but I'm seeing this error sometimes too. It appears to me that there is a config problem on the local network and/or machine.

[yongrel]

The Tubes are Clogged!

[nathanielyao]

I've pulled up the site fine but I'm seeing this error sometimes too. It appears to me that there is a config problem on the local network and/or machine.

This is because some of servers have updates with the new nameserver information and some have not. The intermittent errors are from your computer requesting information from one of the servers of your ISP that has not yet updated.

The worst problem last time this happened was with Comcast. They were the last to update.

[Eli]

Al Gore can make it happen.

Priceless!

[jpinkerton]

Jesus Menthol Patch settle down.

Up for me in Cedar Rapids, IA - Qwest.

[NerveShocker]

Interesting update. It still doesn't work normally for me in Chicago, IL. But can any1 explain why it works when I use this method then?
If TeaParty07.com is unavailable when you try to visit it go to the website sureproxy.com and scroll down to where it says Proxy and type in teaparty07.com. Then unselect all the boxes beneath the browse button except show URL entry form. Then click browse and the TeaParty07.com site should load!!

P.S. Sureproxy.com allowed me to open Teaparty07.com every time and it still wont load any other way.

[nathanielyao]

Interesting update. It still doesn't work normally for me in Chicago, IL. But can any1 explain why it works when I use this method then?
If TeaParty07.com is unavailable when you try to visit it go to the website sureproxy.com and scroll down to where it says Proxy and type in teaparty07.com. Then unselect all the boxes beneath the browse button except show URL entry form. Then click browse and the TeaParty07.com site should load!!

P.S. Sureproxy.com allowed me to open Teaparty07.com every time and it still wont load any other way.

Sureproxy.com's servers have updated, but your ISPs have not.

[Wayne Hammond]

Sureproxy.com's servers have updated, but your ISPs have not.

Nathaniel - what hosting plan is Trevor now using for the TeaParty07 server? Is this still on Godaddy's system (but just another server)?

Was he going to move it to another dedicated server, or is it now on the final one that we'll be using from here on out?

Is there still a limit on concurrent users?

.

[Cowlesy]

Not working for me in NYC with TimeWarner, but apparently worked for someone else, odd.

[Sey.Naci]

Interesting update. It still doesn't work normally for me in Chicago, IL. But can any1 explain why it works when I use this method then?
If TeaParty07.com is unavailable when you try to visit it go to the website sureproxy.com and scroll down to where it says Proxy and type in teaparty07.com. Then unselect all the boxes beneath the browse button except show URL entry form. Then click browse and the TeaParty07.com site should load!!

P.S. Sureproxy.com allowed me to open Teaparty07.com every time and it still wont load any other way.
Tried that and still got 'service unavailable'. Am on the west coast.

[NerveShocker]

Well I'm confused. All I know is if this isn't fixed everywhere by the debate then this is a HUGE disaster for our grassroots effort. Maybe next time we update a critically important website the day before a hugely important debate we will do it right...... -.-

[blackmouth]

Not working for me in NYC with TimeWarner, but apparently worked for someone else, odd.


I'm on Speakeasy in NYC. I'll have to check my TimeWarner connection at home. If you do get service unavailable you'll need to refresh.

[caradeporra]

By the way, the 1:6 ratio of pledges to visitors is interesting. I wonder what fraction of those 100k non-pledged visitors actually plan to donate, but just didn't want to register their email.

I think we're in for a nice surprise =D

Or what percentage plan to donate, but cant afford 100 dollars and therefore cant pledge...

[akovacs]

It's working for me on Insight (Indiana). My university (Purdue) connection hasn't been updated yet though.

[KewlRonduderules]

Nathaniel - what hosting plan is Trevor now using for the TeaParty07 server? Is this still on Godaddy's system (but just another server)?

Was he going to move it to another dedicated server, or is it now on the final one that we'll be using from here on out?

Is there still a limit on concurrent users?

.


I think these are very good questions. I would like to know as well.

thanks

[ItsTime]

not working in New Hampshire

[nathanielyao]

Bump for people coming home from work...

[blackmouth]

I'm on Speakeasy in NYC. I'll have to check my TimeWarner connection at home. If you do get service unavailable you'll need to refresh.

Works from home and just in time!

[NerveShocker]

Unfortunately, teaparty07.com still does not work for me in Chicago, IL. Others are having the same troubles in Chicago. Specifically people using Comcast, I'm not sure about other services. Hopefully this will be fixed everywhere before the debate starts.

[Zym]

still nothing at all in WA state.

Debate coming up soon, if this is a domain issue, cant you make google point directly to the IP addy? instead of the domain name? what is the IP addy?

[Quantumystic]

It keeps flip-loppin' here in Orlando, FL on BrightHouse Earthlink cable broadband.

[nathanielyao]

Unfortunately, teaparty07.com still does not work for me in Chicago, IL. Others are having the same troubles in Chicago. Specifically people using Comcast, I'm not sure about other services. Hopefully this will be fixed everywhere before the debate starts.

Comcast seems to be the last ones to update their servers. If anyone has comcast, can you please give us a heads up when the site is working for you?

[hard@work]

eh, tech happens.

[jumpyg1258]

I use comcrap in burtonsville,md (DC area). I can access the site if I goto "teaparty07.com" but can not access it if I go to "www.teaparty07.com"

[jjesusfreak01]

The only way to speed up DNS prorogation is to convince all the commercial ISPs of the world to clear this domain from their cache and refresh it from the root name servers.

Hmm, sounds like a potential money making service. Make an agreement with all of the commercial ISPs that for a set fee, they will reset the domain, then charge the people who need it fixed a set fee, and everything is back immediately.

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Hi Everyone,

Sorry about all the problems with the teaparty07 site. Just an explanation of what's going on for the techies and for the curious.

When we upgraded the plan for TeaParty07, the tech support at GoDaddy told us to change the nameservers and the A name. Unfortunately, they gave us instructions for domains that were bought with GoDaddy.

The domain was purchased at Yahoo. When the nameserver was changed, it was pointing to some dummy nameservers, so unfortunately, what was propagating was the domain name pointing to some black hole on the internet. Therefore the site started to go down for most people.

We finally caught the problem and pointed the domain to the correct nameservers. The site should be starting to come back online. Keep refreshing your browser to check every few hours or so. Our hope is that it propagates fast enough to make it for tonight's debate.

For those that it is down for, there is nothing we can do except to wait for it to propagate and point to the correct servers. When you get an error message, it is the domain pointing to the internet abyss.

Thank you all for your understanding and patience and sorry for the hiccups.

Nathaniel

Dude, just provide the IP address for the server...

For example, people can go to:
http://www.ronpaulvideopodcast.com/

or via IP they can go to:
http://70.86.215.76/~ronpaulv/

The IP address will ALWAYS work as it does not require name servers.

[James R]

Hi Everyone,

Sorry about all the problems with the teaparty07 site. Just an explanation of what's going on for the techies and for the curious.

When we upgraded the plan for TeaParty07, the tech support at GoDaddy told us to change the nameservers and the A name. Unfortunately, they gave us instructions for domains that were bought with GoDaddy.

The domain was purchased at Yahoo. When the nameserver was changed, it was pointing to some dummy nameservers, so unfortunately, what was propagating was the domain name pointing to some black hole on the internet. Therefore the site started to go down for most people.

We finally caught the problem and pointed the domain to the correct nameservers. The site should be starting to come back online. Keep refreshing your browser to check every few hours or so. Our hope is that it propagates fast enough to make it for tonight's debate.

For those that it is down for, there is nothing we can do except to wait for it to propagate and point to the correct servers. When you get an error message, it is the domain pointing to the internet abyss.

Thank you all for your understanding and patience and sorry for the hiccups.

Nathaniel

I don't think you guys should use GoDaddy for such an important website!

[sharedvoice]

Not a big deal, usually takes less than 24hrs.

[NerveShocker]

Well.. website still doesn't work for me.. and I'm beginning to doubt it ever will. I'm using Comcast and am in Chicago. I hear others using Comcast can get it to work so I doubt that is the problem. People keep saying try www.teaparty07.com or others say try it like this teaparty07.com. Umm, do you really think your helping? I ask because I don't believe you seriously think we haven't already tried everything to fix it. And that would be the FIRST thing we do... If you have useful advice that's appreciated but telling us to try that is a waste of a post and really an insult to our intelligence. Anyways I hope the solution is found soon as it does damage our efforts. Regardless, we need to donate to Ron Paul today and especially tomorrow! Mike Huckabee has been getting first class media treatment while ignoring his stances. Due to this ridiculous coverage his donations have gone up in the last few days. We have to raise more money in next few days to show who truly has the peoples support. Check out ronpaulgraphs.com we're on a roll right now add to the effort if you can!

[smartbandwidth]

Still not working - going on 3+ days now - here in Chicago via comcast. What a nightmare!!

[Drknows]

cant you change the service unavailable page so it redirects to something else?

[ronpaul.in]

Service Unavailable ROADRUNNER in Tampa Florida

[Perry]

Crimonies! Why doesn't everyone just redirect to the mirror site. The web address is of little importance.

[jd603]

It's being advertised all over so the site does matter at this point.

I already have the thing mirrored, I just need lyman or whoever is managing it to make a quick change....... nobody is around for some reason.

[AdamT]

Does not work here in central Wisconsin.

[jake]

page not loading properly. :( this is really, really unfortunate

[Pharoah]

Haven't all the videos been directing people to teaparty07.com? It is of *major* importance to get it working again. Still down, btw.

[jd603]

FYI Trevor went with some other person/company. Lots of reports of down-time. So,,, just so everyone knows I have nothing to do with hosting any of his sites. so if there's issues it has nothing to do with ME.

I am backing away from the TRAINWRECK.

[dmspilot00]

As a web developer and server tech, the explanation of the problem doesn't even make any sense. If you do not know what you are doing you should not have been the one to set up this site. And I can't believe it's being hosted at Godaddy, they are one of the worst providers you could have chosen.

[jd603]

I DIDN'T DO IT! Not my trainwreck, I was only asking to clean up the mess and they wouldn't let me! LOL :D


As a web developer and server tech, the explanation of the problem doesn't even make any sense. If you do not know what you are doing you should not have been the one to set up this site. And I can't believe it's being hosted at Godaddy, they are one of the worst providers you could have chosen.

[Energy]

Lesson for everyone: if you don't know how to do something, get qualified help.

[vinwal]

I am hoping to scrape up enough funds to run the USA Today full page ad in a local paper. The Press of Atlantic City has a circulation of approx. 250,000. I was hoping to run this ad on either 12/13 or 12/14 thinking it would be very beneficial to the Tea Party. The ad promotes www.teaparty07.com. I sincerely hope there will be no problems with this site. I also have a chipin for this project if anyone would like to help out. I am currently in the process of establishing a PAC. Thanx in advance. http://fullpageronpaulad.chipin.com/mypages/view/id/b4e2b48728d76592

[tsetsefly]

lets hope whoever made this site lets qualified people help!