Three TRUTHS to end A THOUSAND threads!

[Menthol Patch]

The following are three truths. They are FACT so they never need to be mentioned in a thread again. They are distracting us, trolls are bringing up these issues repeatedly, and there is no reason to discuss them!

1) Ron Paul will NEVER run with Kucinich! There is no way Ron Paul would run for office with a gun grabbing high taxing socialist!

2) Ron Paul will NEVER run for a Republican as the vice pres. candidate! He has made this very clear!

3) Ron Paul will NOT run as an independent or a third party candidate! He has made this clear a dozen different times!

Lets drop these subjects immediately!

We need to focus our energy on REAL issues! An example is the TEA PARTY!

[EvilEngineer]

I really wish the media would read this so they would stop asking these questions. I clench my fist every time I see an interview with the "Will you run 3rd party?"

[jake]

#3 is the only one worth discussing, but it will be a moot point when Paul wins the Republican ticket.

[Dorfsmith]

#3 is the only one worth discussing, but it will be a moot point when Paul wins the Republican ticket.

Agreed. Points 1 and 2 should not even be discussed. Point 3 can be discussed later if there is a need for it.

[JimDude]

1) Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are good friends, and there is at least a slight possibility, they might work together on some matter.

2) If Ron Paul is given a chance to be vp, that kinda power will be better than nothing.



Ya, but I mostly agree with you. we should be focusing on voting in new Hampshire

[Menthol Patch]

Point 3 should not be discussed. Ron Paul has said a thousand times he will not run as an independent or third party candidate.

[Original_Intent]

Point 3 is open to discussion but we should not focus on it at this time.

Ron Paul's answers to this have been very carefully worded. "That is not something I have considered" "That is not something that I want to do, the deck is stacked against third parties" etc. The person asking the question is trying to make Ron Paul appear disloyal to the party to undermine his nomination as a Republican.

Focus on the Republican nomination.
A third party or independent run is not off the table. It is not an option to be considered while we are trying to get the GOP nomination.

[UtahApocalypse]

Point 3 should not be discussed. Ron Paul has said a thousand times he will not run as an independent or third party candidate.

Wrong... he has NEVER said he "WILL NOT", He has said " He does not INTEND to" " He has no PLAN to" Not once haver I heard that he "WILL NOT" Ron Paul in January had not INTENT to run for president, it was when some people asked him to and showed some support. Now he has a HUGE following and I personally think that if the GOP party locks him out that he will indeed think about it seriously.

[hard@work]

3) Ron Paul will NOT run as an independent or a third party candidate! He has made this clear a dozen different times!



Today:

"Chances are 'slim'."

Not zero.

[RonPaulwillWin]

he says he doesn't plan to. That's only to protect his sound bit so people can't question his integrity if he ends up running as one. I support that.

[mstrmac1]

Today:

"Chances are 'slim'."
Not zero.

So what your saying is there's a chance!

-Dumb and Dumber

[J Free]

The reason the media keeps asking that third question (will you run independent) is not because of Ron Paul - but because of us supporters.

We are the ones who are sitting on the fence about being independent or big-L Libertarian or Dem. We are the ones who parse statements about third-party runs. We are the ones who often act as if we are following Dear Leader wherever he goes. Since he is 72, it is a very legitimate question - where will those supporters be in a few years?

The MOMENT we Ron Paul supporters decide that we are going to make change and that we are going to make that change permanent and institutional, then the issue goes beyond Ron Paul. The issue becomes US. WE are the voters here. WE are the target of people's attention.

Doing that means making a couple of choices.
1. Choose Dem or Rep. Those are the only parties that are capable of governing and that would know what to do if they win. That's why they win. Bemoan this all you want. That is the choice for actual change. "Third-party" is simply a choice to avoid soiling your hands with actual change which may be imperfect. "Independent" is simply a decision that you will be completely uninvolved in all civic responsibility except for voting every few years - and thus you will be happy with whatever others decide your voting choice is.

2. Choose what changes you want to make in the GOP at the level at which you personally are involved. nb - For most of us, this is LOCAL. Hence, discussions about Iraq, Federal Reserve, etc are near useless. Those are national issues not local issues. The value of a Ron Paul presidency to most people is going to be the freedom to implement local ideas locally. A freedom which is useless if you don't actually have any ideas about what to do locally.

3. If you don't have ideas yourself but are truly just interested in Ron Paul's ideas; then target other local folks who DO have ideas but who are frustrated at their lack of freedom in implementing them. In the short-run, that means targetting current GOP via either local GOP party activities or via local "issue" groups (neighborhood associations, PTA's, etc). We've run out of time to convert others to change party affiliation. Longer-term, more options will be available.

Seriously, if RP supporters start doing the above; then the question will cease to be asked by the mass media. They (and the national party types) will instead see that what is happening is a grassroots bottom-up threat to them - not something that can be marginalized because it will go away or stay outside the tent. But they will see it too late - when they can no longer peddle pap - because local GOP forces will have become immunized to it (much as we RP supporters have become immune from the national pap they peddle).

And we will win the GOp nomination

[RonPaulStreetTeam]

dude the Tea Party is NOT the "real issues"

we need to focus on on GETTING OFF THE INTERNET

go talk to people face to face.