Heartless: Nevada Dumps 1,500 Mental Patients Via One-Way Greyhound Ticket to California

[donnay]

Heartless: Nevada Dumps 1,500 Mental Patients Via One-Way Greyhound Ticket to California

City of San Francisco and state of California begin formal suit against neighboring state.

September 12, 2013

A new lawsuit filed by the city of San Francisco on behalf of the state of California alleges that over the past five years, the state of Nevada has dumped 1,500 mental patients onto other states by putting them them on Greyhound busses and sending them over state lines with no prior arrangements with families or other mental hospitals once they arrive.



According to the federal class action lawsuit that the city of San Francisco is spearheading, nearly all of the patients bussed to California need continuous medical care—none of which Nevada state arranged, and all of which cost the city of San Francisco at least $500,000.



"While some of the patients were given the names of shelters or told to dial '911' upon arrival in California, a substantial number were not provided any instructions or assistance in finding shelter, continued medical care, or basic necessities in the cities and counties to which they were sent," the formal complaint states.



Rawson-Neal Hospital and its administrators and staff, which include doctors, nurses and social workers, were aware their patients were indigent, living in shelters or on the streets of Las Vegas or other Nevada cities, and suffered from mental illness requiring ongoing medical care and medication, the plaintiff says.



"They understood and expected that the bused patients would rely on San Francisco's public health resources for continuing medical care," the complaint continues. "Nevada, through its political subdivisions, is required by state law to provide 'care, support and relief to the poor, indigent, incompetent, and those incapacitated by age, disease or accident' to county residents."



San Francisco City Attorney Dennis Herrera wrote a letter of protest to Nevada Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto this past August and warned that he and his state may sue over the egregious denial of responsibility.



"Homeless psychiatric patients are especially vulnerable to the kind of practices Nevada engaged in, and the lawsuit I've filed today is about more than just compensation - it's about accountability," Herrera said in a statement Wednesday. "What the defendants have been doing for years is horribly wrong on two levels: it cruelly victimizes a defenseless population, and punishes jurisdictions for providing health and human services that others won't provide."



Nevada's Chief Deputy Attorney General Linda Anderson sent Herrera a letter on Monday claiming that the Greyhound transfers were, in fact, appropriate considering that, according to the Los Angeles Times, hundreds of California residents had been treated at Rawson-Neal since 2008.



Herrera's public threat to sue Nevada began in August when he cited a Sacramento Bee story in which a schizophrenic patient named Brown said was sent on a 15-hour bus ride to Sacramento, despite never having been there before, having no family or friends to speak of there, and with no prior arrangements for his care, housing or medical treatment.



According to a statement the City Attorney's Office released, the Nevada-run hospital had "discharged Brown in a taxicab to the Greyhound bus station with a one-way ticket to Sacramento, snacks, and a three-day supply of medication to treat his schizophrenia, depression and anxiety. Brown was instructed to call 911 when he arrived. A Rawson- Neal physician reportedly recommended 'sunny California' to Brown as a destination, according to the Sacramento Bee, because they 'have excellent health care and more benefits than you could ever get in Nevada.'"



Rod Bastanmehr is a freelance writer in New York City with a passion for music, film and culture. Follow him on Twitter @rodb.

Source:
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/ca-sues-nv-dumping-mental-patients

[helmuth_hubener]

Pretty odd.

[tod evans]

Tells me Nevada might be trying to cut expenses...

Wonder if they fired the leaches employed at the loony-bin?

[helmuth_hubener]

First Law of Governments: Nobody gets fired, ever. The amount of gov't employees does not decrease, ever.

[VBRonPaulFan]

According to a statement the City Attorney's Office released, the Nevada-run hospital had "discharged Brown in a taxicab to the Greyhound bus station with a one-way ticket to Sacramento, snacks, and a three-day supply of medication to treat his schizophrenia, depression and anxiety. Brown was instructed to call 911 when he arrived. A Rawson- Neal physician reportedly recommended 'sunny California' to Brown as a destination, according to the Sacramento Bee, because they 'have excellent health care and more benefits than you could ever get in Nevada.'"

omg hahahahaha! what's the problem CA? isn't this exactly what your 'social safety nets' and 'social contracts' are for? i thought liberals wanted to help the poor, wtf!

[tod evans]

First Law of Governments: Nobody gets fired, ever. The amount of gov't employees does not decrease, ever.

My question was purely rhetorical...

[Original_Intent]

They should go unnoticed in the Cali general population - no offense intended to any of you "sane" people that find yourself living there....

[ZENemy]

life imitates...south park? lol



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuQzkt5a2EU

[dannno]

^Edit: Ooops beat me by 2 minutes.

There's a South Park episode about this called "Night of the Living Homeless"

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s11e07-night-of-the-living-homeless

They bus all the homeless people to Santa Monica, CA.

Pretty funny episode.

[angelatc]

omg hahahahaha! what's the problem CA? isn't this exactly what your 'social safety nets' and 'social contracts' are for? i thought liberals wanted to help the poor, wtf!

Yeah, it baffles me when people who claim to want small government get upset when these things that would have to happen if government was made smaller.

[ZENemy]

^Edit: Ooops beat me by 2 minutes.

There's a South Park episode about this called "Night of the Living Homeless"

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s11e07-night-of-the-living-homeless

They bus all the homeless people to Santa Monica, CA.

Pretty funny episode.


That song is one of SP's all time best

cali..fo..nuh nuh lol!!

It is a great episode! "I earned your rip sauce" ?

[donnay]

Yeah, it baffles me when people who claim to want small government get upset when these things that would have to happen if government was made smaller.

When Big Government allows Big Pharma/allopathic doctors to medicate people and make them crazy--then you look at all the crimes done with people on Big Pharma drugs it shouldn't baffle you that much. (Check out SSRI stories)

[dannno]

life imitates...south park? lol


I think it's the opposite.

A lot of cities hate homeless people and they make laws that make it really difficult for them to exist.

I imagine this is a very widespread problem, but what are you going to do about it if it's only a few homeless people from a small town that get bussed to a huge city? When it becomes a large and systemic issue like this one is when I guess they decide to at least posture up.

[puppetmaster]

We should counter sue them. They are also sending over 10s of thousand mentally challenged liberals that contaminate our state by bringing with them their ability to vote and turn us into eastern California.

[angelatc]

I think it's the opposite.

A lot of cities hate homeless people and they make laws that make it really difficult for them to exist.

I imagine this is a very widespread problem, but what are you going to do about it if it's only a few homeless people from a small town that get bussed to a huge city? When it becomes a large and systemic issue like this one is when I guess they decide to at least posture up.

When it becomes a matter of policy, the feds will make sure to take over the health system.

[ZENemy]

I think it's the opposite.

A lot of cities hate homeless people and they make laws that make it really difficult for them to exist.

I imagine this is a very widespread problem, but what are you going to do about it if it's only a few homeless people from a small town that get bussed to a huge city? When it becomes a large and systemic issue like this one is when I guess they decide to at least posture up.

Great point!

Speaking of, here in the bay area, the increase in homeless people over the last 2 years is astounding.

[donnay]

When it becomes a matter of policy, the feds will make sure to take over the health system.

*Ahem* The Feds already have it.

[tod evans]

We should counter sue them. They are also sending over 10s of thousand mentally challenged liberals that contaminate our state by bringing with them their ability to vote and turn us into eastern California.

So ya'll are trading loonies...

Think I could interest either state in a few inbreds?

We have plenty here in the sticks and they're fashionable this season...

[MRK]

omg hahahahaha! what's the problem CA? isn't this exactly what your 'social safety nets' and 'social contracts' are for? i thought liberals wanted to help the poor, wtf!
The government of California does not care about the disadvantaged. Think of the children!

The next thing you know, there will be no roads.

Wait, where are my roads?

WHERE, ARE, MUH, ROADS!?

[oyarde]

The 2011 estimate I saw had California with 1 in 5 or just slightly less than 22 % of the total US homeless .

[puppetmaster]

So ya'll are trading loonies...

Think I could interest either state in a few inbreds?

We have plenty here in the sticks and they're fashionable this season...

No they send us many more than we send them.....plus they ship in truckloads of garbage to fill our dumps.

We have our own inbreds but thanks for the offer!

[ObiRandKenobi]

that's funny

[JustinTime]

It happens. My hometown in Florida is inundated with the homeless every autumn because Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit and other places sends busses full of them, to keep them from freezing to death in the winter.

But they stick out like sore thumbs, these people will probably fit right in in California.

[presence]

#snacksandthreedaysofmeds





http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/ca-sues-nv-dumping-mental-patients


Heartless: Nevada Dumps 1,500 Mental Patients Via One-Way Greyhound Ticket to California


City of San Francisco and state of California begin formal suit against neighboring state.



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September 12, 2013 |


A new lawsuit filed by the city of San Francisco on behalf of the state of California alleges that over the past five years, the state of Nevada has dumped 1,500 mental patients onto other states by putting them them on Greyhound busses and sending them over state lines with no prior arrangements with families or other mental hospitals once they arrive.

According to the federal class action lawsuit that the city of San Francisco is spearheading, nearly all of the patients bussed to California need continuous medical care—none of which Nevada state arranged, and all of which cost the city of San Francisco at least $500,000.




"Patients were given the names of shelters or told to
dial '911' upon arrival in California"





a substantial number were not provided any instructions or assistance in finding shelter, continued medical care, or basic necessities in the cities and counties to which they were sent," the formal complaint states.

Rawson-Neal Hospital and its administrators and staff, which include doctors, nurses and social workers, were aware their patients were indigent, living in shelters or on the streets of Las Vegas or other Nevada cities, and suffered from mental illness requiring ongoing medical care and medication, the plaintiff says.

"They understood and expected that the bused patients would rely on San Francisco's public health resources for continuing medical care," the complaint continues. "Nevada, through its political subdivisions, is required by state law to provide 'care, support and relief to the poor, indigent, incompetent, and those incapacitated by age, disease or accident' to county residents."

San Francisco City Attorney Dennis Herrera wrote a letter of protest to Nevada Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto this past August and warned that he and his state may sue over the egregious denial of responsibility.

"Homeless psychiatric patients are especially vulnerable to the kind of practices Nevada engaged in, and the lawsuit I've filed today is about more than just compensation - it's about accountability," Herrera said in a statement Wednesday. "What the defendants have been doing for years is horribly wrong on two levels: it cruelly victimizes a defenseless population, and punishes jurisdictions for providing health and human services that others won't provide."

Nevada's Chief Deputy Attorney General Linda Anderson sent Herrera a letter on Monday claiming that the Greyhound transfers were, in fact, appropriate considering that, according to the Los Angeles Times, hundreds of California residents had been treated at Rawson-Neal since 2008.

Herrera's public threat to sue Nevada began in August when he cited a Sacramento Bee story in which a schizophrenic patient named Brown said was sent on a 15-hour bus ride to Sacramento, despite never having been there before, having no family or friends to speak of there, and with no prior arrangements for his care, housing or medical treatment.

According to a statement the City Attorney's Office released, the Nevada-run hospital had "discharged Brown in a taxicab to the Greyhound bus station with a one-way ticket to Sacramento,



snacks, and a three-day supply of medication


...to treat his schizophrenia, depression and anxiety.

Brown was instructed to call 911 when he arrived. A Rawson- Neal physician reportedly recommended 'sunny California' to Brown as a destination, according to the Sacramento Bee, because they 'have excellent health care and more benefits than you could ever get in Nevada.'"

[puppetmaster]

#snacksandthreedaysofmeds





http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/ca-sues-nv-dumping-mental-patients

Like I said

before in the other DUP thread.....good, they send Nevada their crazies but theirs buy our houses and screw up our state by voting, driving , talking....etc

[presence]

Like I said

before in the other DUP thread.....good they send us their crazies but theirs buy our houses and screw up our state by voting, driving , talking....etc



oops sorry, mod merge/delete please



Heartless: Nevada Dumps 1,500 Mental Patients Via One-Way Greyhound Ticket to California (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?427668-Heartless-Nevada-Dumps-1-500-Mental-Patients-Via-One-Way-Greyhound-Ticket-to-California&highlight=greyhound) Started by donnay (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?7656-donnay), 09-13-2013

[angelatc]

This is why it is a bad idea to have 50 different states?

[klamath]

This kind of shit does piss me off. Within California itself cities in the south breed criminals and then they send them put to my part of the state for parole. NV needs to be very careful because we have on hell of a lot more crazies too send east.

[Acala]

Hey, if socialism works, why is this a problem? Does socialism require excluding people who might be a drain on the system? Does it require keeping the productive class captive? Why, YES, yes it does!

[torchbearer]

sending them home.
to the place of misfit toys.

[Deborah K]

Now watch - one or two of these imports is gonna go postal, and that will seal the deal on gun ownership in Cali. Or at the very least, make it nearly impossible to own any. I can't wait to leave this God forsaken state.....

[presence]

Now watch - one or two of these imports is gonna go postal, and that will seal the deal on gun ownership in Cali. Or at the very least, make it nearly impossible to own any. I can't wait to leave this God forsaken state.....

IMHO County is just as, if not more important than State, w/ regard to gun rights

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[Deborah K]

Where'd you get that map? San Diego is still fairly conservative, I find it hard to believe it's red.

[presence]

Where'd you get that map? San Diego is still fairly conservative, I find it hard to believe it's red.


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[Deborah K]

Oh okay you're referring to CCW. My concern is the doing away with the gun shows, and shooting ranges. They've already gotten ridiculous about how to transport a weapon. Until recently, we could even open-carry, I used to do it when I patrolled the border as a Minuteman. They can kiss my ass with the CCW laws. I'll conceal carry when and if I want to. F'k um. But if they take all the shooting ranges and the gun shows, I'm screwed. And, I see that coming down the pike....

[Brian4Liberty]

San Francisco is the crazy homeless Meca. Always has been.

[Athan]

Well.... this DOES explain California's voting patterns.