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Warlord
09-12-2013, 03:57 AM
From MP:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXKESx1xZV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXKESx1xZV8

Warlord
09-12-2013, 06:15 AM
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muh_roads
09-12-2013, 08:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNi087bVVMY

I was trying to find a different video where young people knew more about the names of celebrities kids than 9/11. Out there somewhere.

ronpaulfollower999
09-12-2013, 08:58 AM
If you showed her a picture of Edward Snowden, I'm she'd want to know about him real quick.

http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/content/2013/0609/0609-edward-snowden.jpg/16009647-1-eng-US/0609-edward-snowden.jpg_full_600.jpg

Cap
09-12-2013, 09:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uneTt1DoDkY

Some do H/T Green73

donnay
09-12-2013, 09:43 AM
Seriously do you blame them? These kids are in a world of hurt and just like so many in denial, it is easy to look the other way then to think of the shit that is laid before their feet.

What needs to happen is some positive reinforcement. Such as the message Ron Paul gives. Lots of young people woke up with his message--in 2008 and 2012. They need to know that they have the power to change things simply by exercising their rights. I do not believe voting is the answer since the hijacked government has it rigged in their favor.

kcchiefs6465
09-12-2013, 10:33 AM
No one ever asks me....

heavenlyboy34
09-12-2013, 10:52 AM
Meh. Plenty of clueless/apathetic/ignorant people of all ages out there. There really should be some sort of civics test to pass before being allowed to vote.

enoch150
09-12-2013, 02:19 PM
If young people don't care about issues, what does that say about old people? It happened over and over and over.

http://i.imgur.com/HcQ6lhV.png

WM_in_MO
09-12-2013, 04:33 PM
Hah those pictures show we are LITERALLY just waiting for them to die off.

I<3Liberty
09-12-2013, 05:10 PM
From MP:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXKESx1xZV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXKESx1xZV8

I'm calling nonsense on this. Not only is this girl not representative of all youth/general youth consensus, MOFO politics obviously wouldn't have used footage that contradicted the point they were trying to make, so there's going to be a sample bias.

I'm around her age (20) and I would have given very different answers.

green73
09-12-2013, 05:14 PM
It's the boomers that are killing us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TeneSysiw

twomp
09-12-2013, 05:21 PM
If young people don't care about issues, what does that say about old people? It happened over and over and over.

http://i.imgur.com/HcQ6lhV.png

Perfect representation right there. The young people will provide the energy and life of a campaign but that alone isn't enough to overcome the boomers and their worship of whoever the media tells them to worship.

LibertyEagle
09-12-2013, 05:53 PM
If young people don't care about issues, what does that say about old people? It happened over and over and over.



What you have shown is that young people don't vote. Look over in the left-hand column. They don't vote. On the other hand, older Americans do vote.

But, since you brought up the youth, I wonder what percentage of the youth who voted, voted for Obama. I imagine the overwhelming majority of the youth went for Obama; not a Republican at all.

So, before you blame everything on the boomers, make sure you have your own generation in order.

http://letustalk.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obama-youth-signs.jpg?w=400&h=270

http://images.usatoday.com/Wires2Web/20080606/595846636_Obama_Generationx.jpg


Perfect representation right there. The young people will provide the energy and life of a campaign but that alone isn't enough to overcome the boomers and their worship of whoever the media tells them to worship.

Don't kid yourself. The youth voted for Obama in huge numbers.

Theocrat
09-12-2013, 05:58 PM
What you have shown is that young people don't vote. Look over in the left-hand column. They don't vote. On the other hand, older Americans do vote.

But, since you brought up the youth, I wonder what percentage of the youth who voted, voted for Obama. I imagine the overwhelming majority of the youth went for Obama; not a Republican at all.

So, before you blame everything on the boomers, make sure you have your own generation in order.

http://letustalk.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obama-youth-signs.jpg?w=400&h=270

http://images.usatoday.com/Wires2Web/20080606/595846636_Obama_Generationx.jpg

It's not that young voters don't care about the issues. It's that young voters, more often than not, have the wrong position on the issues in which they care about.

LibertyEagle
09-12-2013, 06:13 PM
It's the boomers that are killing us.


Hah those pictures show we are LITERALLY just waiting for them to die off.

Be careful what you wish for, guys.

Let's look at the numbers for South Carolina.

214 18-29
452.39 30-44
1071.45 45-64
642.87 65+
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2380.71

31% of 214 = 66.34
19% of 452.39 = 85.95
11% of 1071.45 = 117.86
7% of 642.87 = 45

Total for RP = 315. Of that 163 are 45 or older.

Assuming my calculations are correct, in SC, you would be throwing away more than half of Ron Paul's votes (163), if your wish came true and the older people died off.

So, you may want to rethink your position.

Philhelm
09-12-2013, 06:47 PM
I'm calling nonsense on this. Not only is this girl not representative of all youth/general youth consensus, MOFO politics obviously wouldn't have used footage that contradicted the point they were trying to make, so there's going to be a sample bias.

I'm around her age (20) and I would have given very different answers.

I doubt that you are in any conceivable way representative of your group, whatever that may be.

DamianTV
09-12-2013, 07:24 PM
If young people don't care about issues, what does that say about old people? It happened over and over and over.

http://i.imgur.com/HcQ6lhV.png

There will always be groups of people that are willfully igonrant.

The polls to me also reflect politicians getting away with what they usually do, promise the biggest lie they can get away with. Many older people are also easily fooled by only getting their information from teh obviously biased MSM which supports their big ass fucking lies. They also think that they are Entitled to take from the younger generation because they were taken from when they were young. They support the theft from others by thinking that when Govt commits theft on their behalf that it isnt theft. They also show their incredible selfishness by saying exactly what we know they say, fuck everybody else as long as I get mine, even if it is at your expense, or the expense of your future. This shows to me also that both groups of people have their own fair share of willfully ignorant.

thoughtomator
09-12-2013, 07:38 PM
If young people don't care about issues, what does that say about old people? It happened over and over and over.


It says that old people are fucking over their own posterity on purpose.

Cleaner44
09-12-2013, 07:47 PM
It's the boomers that are killing us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TeneSysiw

Its true. I blame my father and his generation for being useless. Seriously from LBJ, Nixon and so on, nothing but endless support for statists.

enoch150
09-13-2013, 10:19 AM
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ClydeCoulter
09-13-2013, 10:34 AM
Yep, it always works. It's harder to divide a watermelon than to divide people into groups to shift blame.

TruckinMike
09-13-2013, 11:04 AM
Its true. I blame my father and his generation for being useless. Seriously from LBJ, Nixon and so on, nothing but endless support for statists.
The older crowd grew up in a time period where trust was common place(on a personal level). As a result they trusted the politicians and the "news". Thus they voted accordingly. Breaking their paradigm of trust with historical fact is the best bet.

LibertyEagle
09-13-2013, 11:07 AM
Its true. I blame my father and his generation for being useless. Seriously from LBJ, Nixon and so on, nothing but endless support for statists.

This isn't helping anything. We could sit here and blame the young people for two administrations of Obama and dwell on that for awhile, but it's not doing a damn thing to fix anything. There have always been patriots in every generation; every single one. There have also always been useful idiots and some flat out traitors.

I'm not sure how furthering the divide and conquer meme is helping us achieve any of our goals. Am I missing something?

LibertyEagle
09-13-2013, 11:09 AM
The older crowd grew up in a time period where trust was common place(on a personal level). As a result they trusted the politicians and the "news". Thus they voted accordingly. Breaking their paradigm of trust with historical fact is the best bet.

How about treating people like they are individuals?

Natural Citizen
09-13-2013, 11:27 AM
One of the best things that youth have on their side is that they have the gift of seeing the world as it isn't. This is perhaps the only time this has been possible since the days of Apollo.

TruckinMike
09-13-2013, 11:31 AM
How about treating people like they are individuals?My statement was concerning culture. Its kind of hard to do that on an individual basis. Also, I am in constant communication with truck drivers that are 40-70+ years old. I have had hundreds of conversations with folks in that age group ---> Trust is their Achilles. Public schooling along with their parents, grand parents, and peer beliefs hold them in bondage to the corrupt system. Its a multi-generational belief system that must be shattered with historical truth.

And Hannity, Levin, and Limbaugh certainly don't help. But you know this already...

edit: Thought I would add this for a start for those stuck in the land 'O lollipops...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjb-ri0fUw

noneedtoaggress
09-13-2013, 12:00 PM
Meh. Plenty of clueless/apathetic/ignorant people of all ages out there.

+1

More individualism in this thread, please?

Might as well be arguing about which race is the most clueless/apathetic/ignorant.

Both of which foster an arbitrary and completely unnecessary division over collectivist grouping and doesn't solve anything.

I can understand there being division over something foundational like principles, but there really is nothing good that can come of this and nothing to change by arguing along these lines.