The 12-Year War: 73% of U.S. Casualties in Afghanistan on Obama's Watch

[enhanced_deficit]

The 12-Year War: 73% of U.S. Casualties in Afghanistan on Obama's Watch

September 11, 2013 - 4:38 AM
By Dennis M. Crowley

In total, 2,144 U.S. military personnel have given their lives fighting in and around Afghanistan as part of Operation Enduring Freedom. (AP File Photo)

In the war that Congress authorized against al Qaeda only three days after that attack, the vast majority of the U.S. casualties have occurred in the last four and a half years during the presidency of Barack Obama.

In fact, according to the CNSNews.com database of U.S. casualties in Afghanistan, 73 percent of all U.S. Afghan War casualties have occurred since Jan. 20, 2009 when Obama was inaugurated.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/dennis-m-crowley/12-year-war-73-us-casualties-afghanistan-obamas-watch

[Miss Annie]

I would put money on the fact that is because since he has been in office he has modified the rules of engagement in war for our military. That is part of the investigation that the families of Seal Team 6s families are trying to bring before Congress.

Freedom Watch Demands U.S. Military's Rules Of Engagement Be Changed Before United States Enters War In Syria And Only Congress Can Declare War
http://news.yahoo.com/freedom-watch-demands-u-militarys-rules-engagement-changed-120000252.html

[enhanced_deficit]

I would put money on the fact that is because since he has been in office he has modified the rules of engagement in war for our military. That is part of the investigation that the families of Seal Team 6s families are trying to bring before Congress.

Freedom Watch Demands U.S. Military's Rules Of Engagement Be Changed Before United States Enters War In Syria And Only Congress Can Declare War
http://news.yahoo.com/freedom-watch-demands-u-militarys-rules-engagement-changed-120000252.html

Incidentally, many more Afghan civilians have been killed on his watch also.

[Miss Annie]

Incidentally, many more Afghan civilians have been killed on his watch also.

I bet they are not Wahhabi. Notice he doesn't mind killing ( or aiding/funding in the killing ) the civilians in Syria, Libya, or Egypt either.

[enhanced_deficit]

I bet they are not Wahhabi. Notice he doesn't mind killing ( or aiding/funding in the killing ) the civilians in Syria, Libya, or Egypt either.

Not sure and many victims were too young to tell their ethnic/religious affiliation from their photos. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?419799-Shoes-hit-quot-war-criminal-quot-Obama-s-photo-during-his-South-Africa-visit&p=5101343&viewfull=1#post5101343)

[Miss Annie]

Not sure and many victims were too young to tell their ethnic/religious affiliation from their photos. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?419799-Shoes-hit-quot-war-criminal-quot-Obama-s-photo-during-his-South-Africa-visit&p=5101343&viewfull=1#post5101343)

The children are the same affiliation as the parents. The affiliations are usually grouped together in villages.

[ZENemy]

ITS BUSHES FAULT!!!


GOD!!!!!

[enhanced_deficit]

4 US/NATO troops killed in Afghan car bomb, inside attacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HauMXa-vf0Q


NATO troops killed in Afghanistan
September 16 at 5:29 AM
KABUL — A suicide bomber killed three coalition troops near the U.S. Embassy in Kabul on Tuesday morning, and a fourth died late Monday when an Afghan soldier opened fire on NATO forces.
The violence, the deadliest aimed at NATO troops in more than two months, underscores the continued vulnerability of international forces serving in Afghanistan.
At about 8:15 a.m., a car packed with explosives detonated near a convoy of armored vehicles in Kabul. The blast occurred as the convoy left a heavily fortified area near the U.S. Embassy and other government buildings, witnesses and Afghan officials said.
“It was a very powerful blast and happened just as the vehicles sped out of the embassy,” said Taj Mohammad, one of the witnesses.
Television footage of the aftermath showed mangled vehicles and coalition troops providing first aid to two soldiers lying next to the road. At least 13 Afghan civilians also were wounded, said Hashmat Stanekzai, a Kabul police spokesman.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nato-troops-killed-in-afghanistan/2014/09/16 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nato-troops-killed-in-afghanistan/2014/09/16/a2adf3ba-3d7e-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_story.html)


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[Zippyjuan]

Bush was much more interested in the Iraqi war.

[TheCount]

http://www.bollyn.com/public/Afghanistan_U.S._Troop_levels.JPG

[Zippyjuan]

Just checking some numbers from here: http://icasualties.org/OEF/ByYear.aspx
Obama took office in 2009.
Total Afghanistan deaths: 3,473.
Total deaths 2009 and later: 2,454 or 70%.
That includes all coalition deaths- not just US.

US casulties:
Total: 2345
2009 and later: 1715 or 73%


Same source Iraq deaths: http://icasualties.org/Iraq/index.aspx
Total: 4804
Total 2009 and later: 265 or 5.5%

Total US Deaths: 4486
Total 2009 and later: 264 or 5.9%

Both wars together:

Total Deaths- Afghanistan and Iraq:8277
Total 2009 and Later: 2719 or 33%

Total US Deaths- Afghanistan and Iraq: 6831
Total 2009 and Later: 1979 or 29%.

[Danke]

Just checking some numbers from here: http://icasualties.org/OEF/ByYear.aspx
Obama took office in 2009.
Total Afghanistan deaths: 3,473.
Total deaths 2009 and later: 2,454 or 70%.
That includes all coalition deaths- not just US.

US casulties:
Total: 2345
2009 and later: 1715 or 73%


Same source Iraq deaths: http://icasualties.org/Iraq/index.aspx
Total: 4804
Total 2009 and later: 265 or 5.5%

Total US Deaths: 4486
Total 2009 and later: 264 or 5.9%

If you want both wars together and are excited by body counts:

Total Deaths- Afghanistan and Iraq:8277
Total 2009 and Later: 2719 or 33%

Total US Deaths- Afghanistan and Iraq: 6831
Total 2009 and Later: 1979 or 29%.

Zippy always trying to come up with a way to defend a Democrat. On a forum dedicated to Ron Paul, a Republican.

[enhanced_deficit]

Just checking some numbers from here: http://icasualties.org/OEF/ByYear.aspx
Obama took office in 2009.
...

So what did you find, is following statement accurate or not?

"73% of U.S. Casualties in Afghanistan on Obama's Watch"








http://www.bollyn.com/public/Afghanistan_U.S._Troop_levels.JPG


Iraq/Afghanistan wars disabled 624,000 US troops , Divorces up 42%, Foreclosures up 217% (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.php?892-Iraq-Afghanistan-wars-disabled-624-000-US-troops-Divorces-up-42-Foreclosures-up-217&)

[Danke]

So what did you find, is following statement accurate or not?

"73% of U.S. Casualties in Afghanistan on Obama's Watch"





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Iraq/Afghanistan wars disabled 624,000 US troops , Divorces up 42%, Foreclosures up 217% (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.php?892-Iraq-Afghanistan-wars-disabled-624-000-US-troops-Divorces-up-42-Foreclosures-up-217&)

And that is what the thread is about, but let him stick with his M.O. and try to derail it as a Liberal would.

[Zippyjuan]

So what did you find, is following statement accurate or not?

"73% of U.S. Casualties in Afghanistan on Obama's Watch"










Iraq/Afghanistan wars disabled 624,000 US troops , Divorces up 42%, Foreclosures up 217% (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.php?892-Iraq-Afghanistan-wars-disabled-624-000-US-troops-Divorces-up-42-Foreclosures-up-217&)

Yes it was accurate. I just added info on our other major war. Is my information accurate?

[enhanced_deficit]

Yes it was accurate. I just added info on our other major war. Is my information accurate?

I did not take time to go through all the plethora of numbers you pasted... unless there is a reason to check their accuracy and there is an unstated statement that your numbers are meant to support.
If you have a point or argument regarding nobel peace prizer's role in spreading peace in the world, then go ahead.

[TheCount]

So what did you find, is following statement accurate or not?

He found that when you increase troop levels by 300%, casualty rates also increase.

[Zippyjuan]

I did not take time to go through all the plethora of numbers you pasted... unless there is a reason to check their accuracy and there is an unstated statement that your numbers are meant to support.
If you have a point or argument regarding nobel peace prizer's role in spreading peace in the world, then go ahead.

I see. The numbers don't support image presented in the original post so they must be politically biased.

[CPUd]

http://www.bollyn.com/public/Afghanistan_U.S._Troop_levels.JPG

Interesting some of the points in that graph coincide with the times the generals said (in the interviews below) they went to the presidents and told him they didn't know what the fuck the military were doing.
http://i.imgur.com/r1CyI4g.jpg

[enhanced_deficit]

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