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cajuncocoa
09-07-2013, 01:18 PM
Witness: Suspect Vowed To Attack 'Next White Person Who Walks By'NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — It came out of nowhere.


A man allegedly went on a rampage in Union Square on Wednesday afternoon and left a complete stranger brain-dead in the process.
Police said that the attack may have been a hate crime.


Friends of Jeffrey Babbitt, 62, were shocked to hear about the random act of violence that left the gentle, retired train conductor in a coma, CBS 2′s Dave Carlin reported on Friday.


“I don’t believe that. I don’t know why that happened. He is very nice,” Igor Sapozhnikov said.


Babbitt was minding his own business as he walked through the crowd near the chess boards in Union Square when a man made a hateful announcement and began his rampage, witnesses said.


“He said ‘the next white person who walks by I’m going to [expletive],’” one woman said. “His fist went in and the man’s head bobbed and he hit the ground and you could hear his skull hitting the ground.”


The man continued his rampage before demanding to see police officers.


“He stood there and hit two more people and asked for the police to come,” Michael Benson said.


Stunned witnesses counted a total of three people attacked. The suspect, Lashawn Marten, 31, remained at the scene until police arrived.
Babbitt was on the ground with blood flowing from his head. Nearby were two other victims icing their faces.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/09/06/nypd-man-brain-dead-following-random-rampage-in-union-square/

JustinTime
09-07-2013, 01:24 PM
These kinds of things happen with stunning regularity. Literally every other day I stumble across some anti-white hate crime on one of the forums I visit.

aGameOfThrones
09-07-2013, 01:59 PM
Where is the white al sharpton?

thoughtomator
09-07-2013, 02:13 PM
I'm getting a bit weary of the behavior of Obama's sons.

James Madison
09-07-2013, 02:24 PM
Should have checked his white privilege at the door.

tod evans
09-07-2013, 02:40 PM
Where is the white al sharpton?

Racist..

cjm
09-07-2013, 02:58 PM
City life. It has its pros and cons.

tod evans
09-07-2013, 03:45 PM
City life. It has its pros and cons.

Help me grasp one pro?

aGameOfThrones
09-07-2013, 03:53 PM
Racist..

Don't confuse racism with equality.

Cleaner44
09-07-2013, 04:05 PM
So a man armed with his fist destroyed another man's life, armed with nothing more than his fists.

tod evans
09-07-2013, 04:13 PM
Don't confuse racism with equality.

I was being a smartass...

Antischism
09-07-2013, 04:28 PM
Wow, this dude was not right in the head. Incredibly fucked up. I hope they lock him up for a long time.

Kind of shocked it happened at Union Square since it's a safe and always crowded area.


Also, lots of really stupid comments in this thread. Par for the course when it comes to race on RPF, though.

Contumacious
09-07-2013, 04:40 PM
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/09/06/nypd-man-brain-dead-following-random-rampage-in-union-square/

I do not understand , why didn't Mr Babbitt draw his .357 magnum?

Oh wait , this is the People's Republic of NY, he has no rights the government has to recognize.

Oh well, maybe someday the people will wake up and stop the tyrannical bullshit.

.

Sola_Fide
09-07-2013, 04:44 PM
So a man armed with his fist destroyed another man's life, armed with nothing more than his fists.

Ban fists. Only white ones.

Contumacious
09-07-2013, 04:59 PM
So a man armed with his fist destroyed another man's life, armed with nothing more than his fists.

Yeah man. Those who are 60 year old or older should stay home.

Cleaner44
09-07-2013, 05:16 PM
This is why any and every peaceful person should feel comfortable bearing arms and using them to defend their life, even from a person armed with nothing more than their fists.

James Madison
09-07-2013, 05:19 PM
Ban fists. Only white ones.

Ban assault fists.

presence
09-07-2013, 05:25 PM
http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2011/10/316319_10150349685928369_80176223368_8118710_19398 86866_n-300x184.jpg (http://www.gunsandammo.com/files/2011/10/316319_10150349685928369_80176223368_8118710_19398 86866_n.jpg)

aGameOfThrones
09-07-2013, 05:29 PM
I was being a smartass...

I know. I want equally racist Al Sharptons.

kcchiefs6465
09-07-2013, 05:44 PM
Help me grasp one pro?
Being able to buy weed on any corner.

Uhhh.... stores close by. Gas stations and such. Occasional block party.

That's about it.

Cons: Getting randomly suckerpunched and left for brain dead...
police beating people daily
robberies, crime, and ignorant sewer rats.
et cetera. Far too many to list.

JustinTime
09-07-2013, 11:21 PM
This is why any and every peaceful person should feel comfortable bearing arms and using them to defend their life, even from a person armed with nothing more than their fists.

If he had shot this batshit crazy thug, instead of being in a coma he'd be the next George Zimmerman.


Also, lots of really stupid comments in this thread. Par for the course when it comes to race on RPF, though.

Yes, whites are privileged and never victims of racism and this was just one oddball example of a mentally handicapped black man who was probably only on the streets and a danger because of white privilege in the first place.
Anyone who doesn't agree is making a stupid comment, and probably a racist too. Nyah nyah. Move on, nothing to see here.

Mani
09-08-2013, 05:37 AM
So a man armed with his fist destroyed another man's life, armed with nothing more than his fists.

Ban fists.

donnay
09-08-2013, 06:22 AM
What's more shocking, to me, is why didn't some men standing around jump this bastard and knock him to the ground and hold him? Why is it everyone has to wait for police to show up? This act is a sad reminder of just how out-of-touch so many people are.

tod evans
09-08-2013, 06:28 AM
What's more shocking, to me, is why didn't some men standing around jump this bastard and knock him to the ground and hold him? Why is it everyone has to wait for police to show up? This act is a sad reminder of just how out-of-touch so many people are.

Because there are very few "men" in the world today.

There's a bunch of pseudo rambos who claim a weapon is necessary for them to protect themselves and their family, then there's the pacifists...

Sad/sorry state of affairs....

Antischism
09-08-2013, 07:24 AM
If he had shot this batshit crazy thug, instead of being in a coma he'd be the next George Zimmerman.



Yes, whites are privileged and never victims of racism and this was just one oddball example of a mentally handicapped black man who was probably only on the streets and a danger because of white privilege in the first place.
Anyone who doesn't agree is making a stupid comment, and probably a racist too. Nyah nyah. Move on, nothing to see here.

Nice straw man. Clear example of what I meant with my original post.

Some people here literally salivate at the thought of being able to make snide remarks about "reverse racism" on this forum sometimes. It's no wonder Ron Paul and libertarianism in general get accused of racism so regularly. Quite frankly, it's one of the things I really dislike about this board that tends to carry over from other "conservative/Republican" websites. There's never a middle ground or decency, let alone critical thinking. It's all emotion. You're either crying about "racism" in regards to everything or crying about "reverse racism." Yet, people say they don't care about race.

Contumacious
09-08-2013, 07:46 AM
What's more shocking, to me, is why didn't some men standing around jump this bastard and knock him to the ground and hold him? Why is it everyone has to wait for police to show up? This act is a sad reminder of just how out-of-touch so many people are.

Are people allow to use deadly force against Negroes?

http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/aa-george_zimmerman_injury.jpg
George Zimmerman

.

Origanalist
09-08-2013, 08:30 AM
Yes, whites are privileged and never victims of racism and this was just one oddball example of a mentally handicapped black man who was probably only on the streets and a danger because of white privilege in the first place.
Anyone who doesn't agree is making a stupid comment, and probably a racist too. Nyah nyah. Move on, nothing to see here.

Very well said! I see you are learning the new reality, well done!

Origanalist
09-08-2013, 08:37 AM
What's more shocking, to me, is why didn't some men standing around jump this bastard and knock him to the ground and hold him? Why is it everyone has to wait for police to show up? This act is a sad reminder of just how out-of-touch so many people are.

If this tweak blindsided me the odds of me standing around icing my face while he's still conscious are rather slim. :rolleyes:

tod evans
09-09-2013, 06:58 PM
Union Square beating victim dies at Bellevue Hospital

Read more: http://pix11.com/2013/09/09/union-square-beating-victim-dies-at-bellevue-hospital/#ixzz2eRm0hUw3

A 62-year-old man who was brutally attacked in Union Square last week died Monday.
On Wednesday, a man shouting that he “hated white people” punched victim Jeffrey Babbitt — who is white — in the face, witnesses said, causing him to fall and strike his head on the ground.

Lashawn Marten, 31, who is black, “made statements to the effect that I’m going to punch the first white man that I see,” said NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly.
After punching Babbitt, Marten allegedly attacked two other men who came to Babbitt’s aid, police said. Police were investigating the incident as a possible hate crime.

Paramedics took Babbitt to Bellevue Hospital, where he lapsed into a coma and was pronounced brain-dead by doctors.

Babbitt was a longtime resident of the Sheepshead Bay section of Brooklyn, where neighbors and friends were shocked by news of the assault. “Everybody’s broken up about this,” neighbor Audrey Feifer, 75, told Newsday. “If you had to go to the doctor or anywhere, he would take you.”

Babbitt reportedly lived with his 94-year-old mother Lucille, and was described by those who knew him as being ‘obsessed’ with trains and comic books.

Marten has been charged with second- and third-degree assault and will go before a grand jury Tuesday, the Manhattan D.A.’s office told PIX11 Monday.

Marten’s charges may be upgraded at that time.

JustinTime
09-10-2013, 06:50 PM
Nice straw man. Clear example of what I meant with my original post.

Whoa, wait a second. You said "Also, lots of really stupid comments in this thread. Par for the course when it comes to race on RPF, though." and didn't bother to quote any of these "stupid comments". My "straw man" is dead-on, you expected to come into the thread and say "Stupid comments!" and walk out unchallenged.

If you want to say another persons comment is stupid, fine by me, but if you don't quote and explain why its stupid its just childish debate tactics.


Some people here literally salivate at the thought of being able to make snide remarks about "reverse racism" on this forum sometimes.

Oh gosh, snide. A man was picked out over his race and brutally assaulted, but lets not get snide.


It's no wonder Ron Paul and libertarianism in general get accused of racism so regularly.

They accuse us of racism because they are morons who look for "easy outs" when losing a debate.

A black guy shouts "Ill hit the next white who walks by", we discuss it, and you say that we're the racists? Jesus effing Christ.


Quite frankly, it's one of the things I really dislike about this board that tends to carry over from other "conservative/Republican" websites. There's never a middle ground or decency,

Theres nothing indecent in this thread. Asking that people not be beaten to death (yes, the victim has now died) is about as "middle ground" as you can get.


alone critical thinking. It's all emotion. You're either crying about "racism" in regards to everything or crying about "reverse racism." Yet, people say they don't care about race.

Don't give me that bullshit. I don't care what race a person is if they're just walking around minding their own business, but if you beat another person to death over his race, it matters and I wont ignore it.

If you want race ignored, ignore it yourself.

Origanalist
09-10-2013, 08:47 PM
Whoa, wait a second. You said "Also, lots of really stupid comments in this thread. Par for the course when it comes to race on RPF, though." and didn't bother to quote any of these "stupid comments". My "straw man" is dead-on, you expected to come into the thread and say "Stupid comments!" and walk out unchallenged.

If you want to say another persons comment is stupid, fine by me, but if you don't quote and explain why its stupid its just childish debate tactics.



Oh gosh, snide. A man was picked out over his race and brutally assaulted, but lets not get snide.



They accuse us of racism because they are morons who look for "easy outs" when losing a debate.

A black guy shouts "Ill hit the next white who walks by", we discuss it, and you say that we're the racists? Jesus effing Christ.



Theres nothing indecent in this thread. Asking that people not be beaten to death (yes, the victim has now died) is about as "middle ground" as you can get.



Don't give me that bullshit. I don't care what race a person is if they're just walking around minding their own business, but if you beat another person to death over his race, it matters and I wont ignore it.

If you want race ignored, ignore it yourself.

Good pummeling, and well deserved.

GunnyFreedom
09-10-2013, 09:39 PM
Ban assault fists.

Whatever you do, don't search up images for "assault fist" on BING. Having found no pithy funny picture of an 'assault fist' on Google, I tried Bing because I was told that Bing has better results for image and video searches. I guess the definition of 'better' is subjective, and depends on what one is looking for, exactly....

donnay
09-11-2013, 12:14 AM
Are people allow to use deadly force against Negroes?

http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/aa-george_zimmerman_injury.jpg
George Zimmerman

.


No one is saying use deadly force against anyone. The man had no weapon but his fists. This country has so many things wrong, one of which are men (NOT ALL) are so squeamish and docile anymore. It has to be in the water they drink!

We cannot conceivably take this country back with a good portion of the men, in this country, who are pansies. SMH

James Madison
09-11-2013, 12:27 AM
Whatever you do, don't search up images for "assault fist" on BING. Having found no pithy funny picture of an 'assault fist' on Google, I tried Bing because I was told that Bing has better results for image and video searches. I guess the definition of 'better' is subjective, and depends on what one is looking for, exactly....

lol

I was kinda going for the double entendre there. :p

Didn't think anyone would google it. :D

enhanced_deficit
09-11-2013, 10:20 AM
Victim of attack has died:

Man punched in the face in Union Square hate attack dies at Bellevue Hospital

Jeffrey Babbitt, 62, was hit by man yelling 'I'm going to punch the first white man I see'

By Rocco Parascandola (http://www.nydailynews.com/authors?author=Rocco%20Parascandola) AND Tina Moore (http://www.nydailynews.com/authors?author=Tina%20Moore) / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Monday, September 9, 2013, 4:50 PM


http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1451022.1378835047%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/court-leshawn-marten.jpg Jefferson Siegel/New York Daily News

Leshawn Marten appears in Manhattan Criminal Court on Tuesday. Marten was charged with assault after saying in Union Square that he would hit the next white person who walked by.




A white man who was punched in the face in Union Square by a black man who was spewing anti-white sentiment died early Monday at Bellevue Hospital, a police source said.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-punched-union-square-hate-attack-dead-article-1.1450233 (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-punched-union-square-hate-attack-dead-article-1.1450233#ixzz2ebMUZByh)






I'm getting a bit weary of the behavior of Obama's sons.

The suspect looks too old to be SWC's son.

LibertyEagle
09-11-2013, 10:24 AM
Because there are very few "men" in the world today.

There's a bunch of pseudo rambos who claim a weapon is necessary for them to protect themselves and their family, then there's the pacifists...

Sad/sorry state of affairs....

+++++++rep

GunnyFreedom
09-11-2013, 12:24 PM
Victim of attack has died:

Man punched in the face in Union Square hate attack dies at Bellevue Hospital

Jeffrey Babbitt, 62, was hit by man yelling 'I'm going to punch the first white man I see'

By Rocco Parascandola (http://www.nydailynews.com/authors?author=Rocco%20Parascandola) AND Tina Moore (http://www.nydailynews.com/authors?author=Tina%20Moore) / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Monday, September 9, 2013, 4:50 PM


http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1451022.1378835047%21/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/court-leshawn-marten.jpg Jefferson Siegel/New York Daily News

Leshawn Marten appears in Manhattan Criminal Court on Tuesday. Marten was charged with assault after saying in Union Square that he would hit the next white person who walked by.




A white man who was punched in the face in Union Square by a black man who was spewing anti-white sentiment died early Monday at Bellevue Hospital, a police source said.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-punched-union-square-hate-attack-dead-article-1.1450233 (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/man-punched-union-square-hate-attack-dead-article-1.1450233#ixzz2ebMUZByh)







The suspect looks too old to be SWC's son.

This dude is gonna have a bad time in prison, especially if he's in genpop. Some big white skinhead with too many tattoos, and facial tattoos, swastikas and SS symbols and other stupid crap is going to introduce him to new realities pretty quick. I'd be surprised if he survives a year in genpop. I'm not advocating for that, mind you, I think America's prison system is cruel and unusual, I'm just describing the reality as it is. Given the nature of his crime, he is going to have an enormous target on his back from day 1 so far as the white supremacist crowd is concerned. Offing this guy will be seen as a fast track to 'most favored skinhead' status amongst the racially-motivated cliques that tend to form in our prisons.

enhanced_deficit
09-11-2013, 03:54 PM
Gunny, think you are right and that is likely end for nut like this (assuming this reporting is accurate).
Although in US prisons, whites are a minority and different culture there than anywhere else.

enhanced_deficit
09-11-2013, 08:09 PM
Where is the white al sharpton?

Where is regular al sharpton?
Civil Rights violation should not be determined based on skin color of victim.


http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/obama-sharpton-dining-e1280559765325.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=obama+chicken&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=lprelRztnNfJNM&tbnid=TfCk3ap8z82NnM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ihatethemedia.com%2Fobama-supporters-pay-30000-for-obama-dinner-he-eats-n-another-room&ei=oMYjUrKHGpC49gSI1oGgCg&bvm=bv.51495398,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNF_2U8WWN5gomJa1aR1zUo0AGdKIA&ust=1378162349734391)

enhanced_deficit
09-13-2013, 04:15 PM
I'm getting a bit weary of the behavior of Obama's sons.

http://wkrn.images.worldnow.com/images/16918063_BG5.jpg



Why doesn't so called GOP leadership call the neocons plant SWC on his selective race baiting politics?

Why doesn't speaker Boehner asks First Puppet if this could haave been his child and goad him to speak out about rape crime epidemic in America if he claims to speak for the whole nation?


'Rape in America is an epidemic': Brave sex assault victim speaks up about her ordeal to help others after man attacked her outside her dorm 'because he was bored' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420279/Rape-America-epidemic-Brave-rape-victim-speaks-ordeal-help-attacked-man-outside-dorm-bored.html)

PUBLISHED: 13:25 EST, 13 September 2013
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/13/article-2420279-1BCDE2BD000005DC-600_308x439.jpg (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420279/Rape-America-epidemic-Brave-rape-victim-speaks-ordeal-help-attacked-man-outside-dorm-bored.html) Brave Taylor Walker (pictured), 22, was walking to her car at Vanderbilt University in February 2012 when 25-year-old Tyrone Batts pounced from the shadows. In the aftermath of the attack, she became unrecognisable to herself. But after a year of therapy she has gradually forged a 'new normal', even though she still doesn't 'remember who that girl before the rape was'. She adds: 'I'm past the point of feeling shameful about it,' she said. I want people to know, number one, that I have nothing to hide. And it's not my fault.'

BlackTerrel
09-13-2013, 06:33 PM
These kinds of things happen with stunning regularity. Literally every other day I stumble across some anti-white hate crime on one of the forums I visit.

There are hundreds of acts of violence every day in a country of 300 million. That's on the no shit meter.

Some forums like to highlight the ones where the perpetrator is black. Which forums do you go to?

BlackTerrel
09-13-2013, 06:37 PM
http://wkrn.images.worldnow.com/images/16918063_BG5.jpg



Why doesn't so called GOP leadership call the neocons plant SWC on his selective race baiting politics?

Why doesn't speaker Boehner asks First Puppet if this could haave been his child and goad him to speak out about rape crime epidemic in America if he claims to speak for the whole nation?


'Rape in America is an epidemic': Brave sex assault victim speaks up about her ordeal to help others after man attacked her outside her dorm 'because he was bored' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420279/Rape-America-epidemic-Brave-rape-victim-speaks-ordeal-help-attacked-man-outside-dorm-bored.html)

PUBLISHED: 13:25 EST, 13 September 2013
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/13/article-2420279-1BCDE2BD000005DC-600_308x439.jpg (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420279/Rape-America-epidemic-Brave-rape-victim-speaks-ordeal-help-attacked-man-outside-dorm-bored.html) Brave Taylor Walker (pictured), 22, was walking to her car at Vanderbilt University in February 2012 when 25-year-old Tyrone Batts pounced from the shadows. In the aftermath of the attack, she became unrecognisable to herself. But after a year of therapy she has gradually forged a 'new normal', even though she still doesn't 'remember who that girl before the rape was'. She adds: 'I'm past the point of feeling shameful about it,' she said. I want people to know, number one, that I have nothing to hide. And it's not my fault.'

Is Obama supposed to comment every time there is a rape in the country?

This entire thread is complaining about a non existent issue.

The people who did the crime are being charged with the crime. What more do you want?

Marenco
09-13-2013, 06:42 PM
What's up with all these crimes perpetrated on innocent people because of boredom? It's unreal.

heavenlyboy34
09-13-2013, 07:18 PM
What's up with all these crimes perpetrated on innocent people because of boredom? It's unreal. high unemployment/underemployment=more uncreative people with nothing but time on their hands=said people occupying their time with unwise and criminal activity. The correlation between unemployment and crime is quite strong and *most* researchers agree on it.

tod evans
09-13-2013, 07:32 PM
high unemployment/underemployment=more uncreative people with nothing but time on their hands=said people occupying their time with unwise and criminal activity. The correlation between unemployment and crime is quite strong and *most* researchers agree on it.

^^^^^^^^^Truth! ^^^^^^^^^^

tod evans
09-14-2013, 02:31 AM
Man accused of punching NYC man who later died in possible bias attack denies race was factor


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/13/man-accused-punching-nyc-man-who-later-died-in-possible-bias-attack-denies-race/?intcmp=latestnews

NEW YORK – A man police say punched a 62-year-old New York City man in a park after threatening to "punch the first white man" he saw denies race played a role in the assault.
Lashawn Marten told the Daily News in a jailhouse interview Thursday he's punched people of various races and doesn't target anyone.
Authorities say Jeffrey Babbitt died after he was struck, fell backward and hit his head last week in Union Square Park.
Babbitt is white. Marten is black.
The 31-year-old Marten declined to discuss details of the alleged attack but asked to see an autopsy report and a death certificate.
Marten is being held on an assault charge, but upgraded charges are possible.
A lawyer for Marten was not immediately available for comment.
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helmuth_hubener
09-14-2013, 06:11 AM
Help me grasp one pro? Greater division of labor. Higher income.

tod evans
09-14-2013, 06:18 AM
Greater division of labor. Higher income.

Are you addressing entire cities or just specific neighborhoods?

helmuth_hubener
09-14-2013, 06:44 AM
Are you addressing entire cities or just specific neighborhoods? Entire cities, all cities. A given person with a certain amount of abilities and productivity can make more in a city than in a small town. In fact, you will make more (statistically) in a big city than in a small one.

tod evans
09-14-2013, 06:51 AM
Entire cities, all cities. A given person with a certain amount of abilities and productivity can make more in a city than in a small town. In fact, you will make more (statistically) in a big city than in a small one.

Then please address the cost of living aspect in comparison to any increase of wages.

(Since we're addressing strictly financial pros/cons)

Also in order to be objective a person mustn't predicate his statement with "A given person with a certain amount of abilities and productivity" because in reality the demographics of city inhabitants are not all people with either drive or ability, let alone both..

helmuth_hubener
09-14-2013, 06:56 AM
The following is from Imagine: How Creativity Works. The "equation" idea is silly and overwrought, and West and Bettencourt seem like total central planner wannabes, the archetypes of what Hayek talked about of arrogant do-gooder planners with the "pretext of knowledge," but their statistics are just statistics, and seem valid. They can be explained by two factors cities offer more of:

1) More division of labor
2) More opportunity for interaction


According to the equations of West and Bettencourt, every socioeconomic variable that can be measured in cities — from the production of patents to per capita income — scales to an exponent of approximately 1.15. What’s interesting here is the size of the exponent, which is greater than 1. This means that a person living in a metropolis of one million should generate, on average, about 15 percent more patents and make 15 percent more money than a person living in a city of five hundred thousand. (The one living in the bigger city should also have 15 percent more restaurants in his neighborhood and create 15 percent more trademarks.) The correlations remain the same even when the numbers are adjusted for levels of education, work experience, and IQ scores. “This remarkable equation is why people move to the big city,” West says. “What the numbers clearly show, and what she was clever enough to anticipate, is that when people come together they become much more productive per capita. They exchange more ideas and generate more innovations. What’s truly amazing is how predictable this is. It happens automatically, in city after city.” According to the equations of West and Bettencourt, every socioeconomic variable that can be measured in cities — from the production of patents to per capita income — scales to an exponent of approximately 1.15. What’s interesting here is the size of the exponent, which is greater than 1. This means that a person living in a metropolis of one million should generate, on average, about 15 percent more patents and make 15 percent more money than a person living in a city of five hundred thousand. (The one living in the bigger city should also have 15 percent more restaurants in his neighborhood and create 15 percent more trademarks.) The correlations remain the same even when the numbers are adjusted for levels of education, work experience, and IQ scores. “This remarkable equation is why people move to the big city,” West says. “Because you can take the same person, and if you just move them from a city of fifty thousand to a city of six million, then all of a sudden they’re going to do three times more of everything we can measure. It doesn’t matter where the city is or which cities you’re talking about. The law remains the same.”

West and Bettencourt refer to this phenomenon as “superlinear scaling,” which is a fancy way of describing the increased output of people living in big cities. When a superlinear equation is graphed, it looks like a roller coaster climbing into the sky. The steep slope emerges from the positive-feedback loop of urban life — a growing city makes everyone in that city more productive, which encourages more people to move to the city, and so on. According to West, these superlinear patterns demonstrate why cities are the single most important invention in human history. They are the idea, he says, that enabled our economic potential and unleashed our ingenuity. Once people started living in dense clumps, they created a kind of settlement capable of reinventing itself, so a city founded on the fur trade could one day give birth to Wall Street, and an island in the Seine chosen for its military advantages might eventually become a place full of avant-garde artists. “Cities are this inexhaustible source of ideas,” West says. “And that’s entirely because of these equations. As cities get bigger, everything starts accelerating. Each individual unit becomes more productive and more innovative. There is no equivalent for this in nature. Cities are a total biological anomaly. But you can’t understand modern life without understanding cities. They are the force behind everything interesting. They are where everything new is coming from.”

helmuth_hubener
09-14-2013, 07:02 AM
Then please address the cost of living aspect in comparison to any increase of wages. Well, cost of living does go up. Food and housing are both more expensive in big cities (though housing more so). That is one of the downsides to cities. It is a definite "con."

However, income goes up more than living expenses. If you or I were to move to a big city (I don't live in a big city either -- I'm just realizing maybe I should!) then our cost of living would probably go up, but out potential income would probably go up even more.

tod evans
09-14-2013, 07:10 AM
Well, cost of living does go up. Food and housing are both more expensive in big cities (though housing more so). That is one of the downsides to cities. It is a definite "con."

However, income goes up more than living expenses. If you or I were to move to a big city (I don't live in a big city either -- I'm just realizing maybe I should!) then our cost of living would probably go up, but out potential income would probably go up even more.

I have lived in both a large city and the country and my perception of city life is skewed due to the fact that I both lived and worked in an upper-middle class environment with all of the appropriate social contacts..

In my case my lifestyle changed to reflect city life in turn offsetting any potential increase in income.

You may be different, some folks are.......

I now live in the country, I loathe cities and despise their inhabitants, from the junkie bum to the tycoon...

You're young, live and learn.......There's lots to learn in any city.

scottditzen
09-14-2013, 07:13 AM
Help me grasp one pro?

Access to pro sports, art, music, culture, culinary scene, walkability, amazing architecture.

To each his own.

helmuth_hubener
09-14-2013, 07:19 AM
You're young, live and learn.......There's lots to learn in any city. Right! And learning is what's really important to me, right now. Anyway, thanks, tod!

tod evans
09-14-2013, 07:26 AM
Right! And learning is what's really important to me, right now. Anyway, thanks, tod!

Please take into account that myself and many others believe that social collapse will begin in the cities...

Good luck and have fun! (Cities are a blast, especially if you're young-n-wild..)

scottditzen
09-14-2013, 07:40 AM
Please take into account that myself and many others believe that social collapse will begin in the cities...

Good luck and have fun! (Cities are a blast, especially if you're young-n-wild..)

Social collapse? Well, I suppose there is a risk inherent in every decision we make. I'm not going to live in fear.

tod evans
09-14-2013, 07:58 AM
Access to pro sports, art, music, culture, culinary scene, walkability, amazing architecture.

To each his own.

I can agree with the architecture aspect but I'd have to add the caveat that I personally am not much impressed with any post-modern architecture...

scottditzen
09-14-2013, 10:27 AM
I can agree with the architecture aspect but I'd have to add the caveat that I personally am not much impressed with any post-modern architecture...

Ha ha. We agree on something :-)

torchbearer
09-14-2013, 10:30 AM
high unemployment/underemployment=more uncreative people with nothing but time on their hands=said people occupying their time with unwise and criminal activity. The correlation between unemployment and crime is quite strong and *most* researchers agree on it.

idles hands are the devil's workshop.

JustinTime
09-14-2013, 04:42 PM
There are hundreds of acts of violence every day in a country of 300 million. That's on the no shit meter.

Some forums like to highlight the ones where the perpetrator is black. Which forums do you go to?

Yep, some forums do... and the mainstream media likes to highlight the ones where the races are reversed. Hell, even if the perp isn't white (lets say, oh I dunno, a rotund Hispanic) they just claim he is white and roll on.

Their journalistic malpractice gives rise to the internet forums you speak of.


What's up with all these crimes perpetrated on innocent people because of boredom? It's unreal.

In this case, it was just racism.


high unemployment/underemployment=more uncreative people with nothing but time on their hands=said people occupying their time with unwise and criminal activity. The correlation between unemployment and crime is quite strong and *most* researchers agree on it.

The links undeniable, but which causes which?

enhanced_deficit
09-14-2013, 05:20 PM
Is Obama supposed to comment every time there is a rape in the country?

This entire thread is complaining about a non existent issue.

The people who did the crime are being charged with the crime. What more do you want?

Do you agree neocons' plant (h/t former Marine Reverend Wright PhD) played politics and engaged in political opportunism as usual when he invoked "son he could have had" in case of Treyvon during Zimmerman trial?
If so, GOP leaders can return the favor too and play politics with other inter-racial incidences since is suposed to look out for interests of all Americans.

Do you consider SWC puppet to be honest politician? If you do, why you think he doesn't recall a "son" he would have had after looking at photos of these innocent children of other races (caution somewhat graphic) killed in cold blood? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?419799-Shoes-hit-quot-war-criminal-quot-Obama-s-photo-during-his-South-Africa-visit&p=5101343&viewfull=1#post5101343)
Why you think "civil rights" champion Al Shaprton does not speak out about civil rights of these children while stnading with the First SWC, because of their different skin color?

If he had a a son, he would have looked far more like this American child still waiting justice than Treyvon who's family at aleast had their day in court:

http://upstatedroneaction.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Abdulrahman.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=Rv7uvWr5CSDKmM&tbnid=vAvfmwLwfycfRM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fupstatedroneaction.org%2Fwordpres s%2F2011%2F11%2F23%2Fa-family-mourns%2F&ei=uOs0UtuBOtej4APphYHYCg&bvm=bv.52164340,d.dmg&psig=AFQjCNFxfBW8WSfpbuGlYuNJoNb74Qbr-A&ust=1379286316111613)

http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Obama-Golf-Pose-wide-300x158.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=Jsl1gjMFnh7_UM&tbnid=oiRaZTUsG6HXzM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bizpacreview.com%2F2013%2F09% 2F02%2Fwhat-obama-biden-did-after-strike-syria-speech-even-disgusts-media-82608&ei=Ou80UtG3OomY9QTTt4CAAw&bvm=bv.52164340,d.eWU&psig=AFQjCNGtfc-C5JI0BiPQ7WzLA6bl8TDoqg&ust=1379287220826207)



If neocons plant perceived that Treyvon's issue was case of injustice and decided to insert himself in, then why should he not be expected to insert himself when Americans of other races are victims of injustice?

The Drone That Killed My Grandson - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/opinion/the-drone-that-killed-my-grandson.html)

www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/.../the-drone-that-killed-my-grandson.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/18/.../the-drone-that-killed-my-grandson.html)

Jul 17, 2013 - Why was a 16-year-old American citizen killed by a drone strike in ... Op-Ed on

BlackTerrel
09-15-2013, 04:01 PM
Yep, some forums do... and the mainstream media likes to highlight the ones where the races are reversed. Hell, even if the perp isn't white (lets say, oh I dunno, a rotund Hispanic) they just claim he is white and roll on.

Their journalistic malpractice gives rise to the internet forums you speak of.

Nope. Racist assholes will be racist assholes regardless of media. Luckily it's a small minority - that's why no one says it offline.

BlackTerrel
09-15-2013, 04:02 PM
Do you agree neocons' plant (h/t former Marine Reverend Wright PhD) played politics and engaged in political opportunism as usual when he invoked "son he could have had" in case of Treyvon during Zimmerman trial?
If so, GOP leaders can return the favor too and play politics with other inter-racial incidences since is suposed to look out for interests of all Americans.

Do you consider SWC puppet to be honest politician? If you do, why you think he doesn't recall a "son" he would have had after looking at photos of these innocent children of other races (caution somewhat graphic) killed in cold blood? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?419799-Shoes-hit-quot-war-criminal-quot-Obama-s-photo-during-his-South-Africa-visit&p=5101343&viewfull=1#post5101343)
Why you think "civil rights" champion Al Shaprton does not speak out about civil rights of these children while stnading with the First SWC, because of their different skin color?

If he had a a son, he would have looked far more like this American child still waiting justice than Treyvon who's family at aleast had their day in court:

I have no idea what your point is.

enhanced_deficit
09-15-2013, 04:45 PM
I have no idea what your point is.

There were simple yes/no Qs therein too.
Do you think the First Puppet is an honest politician?
Do you agree he played politics as usual when he inserted himself and invoked "a son he would have had" during Zimmerman racial scandal?

There were some implied Qs too, do you agree that he is a plant of racist warmongering lobbies and his puppet masters don't care much about innocent children of other races killed for their nefarious agendas?
HoTC.

All those who stand with a war criminal remaining quiet are tacit enablers of the crimes at a minimum.

JustinTime
09-15-2013, 05:18 PM
Nope. Racist assholes will be racist assholes regardless of media. Luckily it's a small minority - that's why no one says it offline.

Says what offline? Talks about the subject of this thread? About the black guy in NYC who killed a random passer-by for no reason other than his pale skin, and similar crimes? Talking about that makes a person a "racist asshole"?

Lets cut the bullshit, you just don't want people talking about black racists because "racist" is only supposed to apply to whites. Only whites can be racist, whites cause all minorities problems... and that attitude gives rise to guys like this murdering piece of shit in Union Station.

BlackTerrel
09-15-2013, 05:42 PM
There were simple yes/no Qs therein too.
Do you think the First Puppet is an honest politician?
Do you agree he played politics as usual when he inserted himself and invoked "a son he would have had" during Zimmerman racial scandal?

There were some implied Qs too, do you agree that he is a plant of racist warmongering lobbies and his puppet masters don't care much about innocent children of other races killed for their nefarious agendas?
HoTC.

All those who stand with a war criminal remaining quiet are tacit enablers of the crimes at a minimum.

What the fuck does any of this have to do with this case?

Crazy fucked up black guy attacks white guy and he should be and will be prosecuted. As should happen. Where's the beef exactly?

BlackTerrel
09-15-2013, 05:43 PM
Says what offline? Talks about the subject of this thread? About the black guy in NYC who killed a random passer-by for no reason other than his pale skin, and similar crimes? Talking about that makes a person a "racist asshole"?

There is no point to talking about this. The guy who committed the crime is being charged. What else is there to do or say?


Lets cut the bullshit, you just don't want people talking about black racists because "racist" is only supposed to apply to whites. Only whites can be racist, whites cause all minorities problems... and that attitude gives rise to guys like this murdering piece of shit in Union Station.

Nobody I know thinks that. You're projecting. The black dude in NYC is clearly mentally unstable. He represents no one but himself.