Tucker strikes again?

[Janet0116]

NPR article
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16685996

[steph3n]

wow, I don't want grandma gov there to catch me, anyway Tucker is doing his best to take an axe to him :(

[qwerty]

i hate him.

[shadowhooch]

i hate him.

Me too.

[peruvianRP]

I never like Tucker then I tough he was fine to Ron so I gave him a break but then I think I was right all along. Then again Tucker has good points Ron Paul suppoter are the most educated people.

The problem is that some liberals like Ron Paul for his stance on the war.. but if they know that Ron Paul is not for socialist programs then may be they won't like him.

[jake]

By extension, the writer continues, that means Paul thinks there should be no "government-sponsored safety net" — a concept almost unimaginable to most voters. "I think if some of them thought that through, they would no longer be on Ron Paul's side," Carlson says.


Of course, he neglects to cover the fact that those dependent already would not be left in the cold.

[jgmaynard]

Man! Tucker JUST doesn't get it! "Banishing abortions" sounds like Ron wants to ban them at the Federal level (not that such an action WOULD actually banish them), which is just not true.

Here:s my favorite part:
"being so deeply libertarian that he's uncomfortable telling his campaign staff what to do — even choices as small as whether to turn down the heat in the campaign van."

Why SHOULD he tell them what to do? That's why they're the campaign staff - to figure out this stuff and to ACT on it! I remember hearing that Jimmy Carter micro-managed everything in the White House - even the tennis court schedule), and that was one of the reasons he aged 85 years over 4. :)

JM

[lew]

Calm down people. Tucker likes Paul. He's not some neo-con plant or something retarded.

[Craig_R]

I cant believe this guy

[me3]

I thought it was a great interview. I don't want anyone to shill for Dr. Paul. Tucker is speaking his mind, and he's clear to point out what is his opinion, but also makes a lot of great points about Dr. Paul's philosophy and methods, in a way no other MSM reporter is.

[hard@work]

Hey, anyone think that Tucker should think for himself and not be submissive to our wishes and best intention?

:)

I do.

[kylejack]

Looks pretty good to me. Nice comments from Tucker.


Carlson calls Paul the most genuine, unpretentious candidate he has ever covered. Carlson says he's also the most radical candidate in a long time. "Ron Paul really doesn't think the government should be in charge of your life in any way," he says. "He thinks every person ought to be free from government surveillance."

[JAYCEE]

Tucker is desperate for ratings. He knows RPers will watch and respond.




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[Tina]

Calm down people. Tucker likes Paul. He's not some neo-con plant or something retarded.

Did you even read the article. I am stunned that a journalist who is supposed to be covering Paul's campaign is at the very same time trying to undermine him.

[AcidReign]

He called Paul supporters the most educated he has ever seen. It was a good interview.

[Craig_R]

but it leaves and overall negative impression to those who may have never heard of Ron Paul. The whole telling his campain what to do came off as he's idecisive. the whole he's wayyy extreme thing just comes off bad, nothing extreme about him in my opinion.

Tucker is making points only hardcore libertarians would applaud (because they would understand them) average americans on the other hand...

[voytechs]

He is the big mole, under the guise that he is pro Ron Paul, he wants to undermine the campaign from friendly turf.

[voytechs]

Calm down people. Tucker likes Paul. He's not some neo-con plant or something retarded.

I think he is. I base my opinion on the fact that he is doing a lot more harm than good. He is picking bizarre issues and people and associating them with Ron Paul. Next we will learn that Tucker's ex-roommate is a white-racists but gets invited to the Tucker show to explain why he likes Dr. Paul. Just wait and see.

[Question_Authority]

Tucker is a wolf in sheep's clothing and he is trying to infiltrate and undermine this campaign. Now he has been given an inside scoop and a seat next to Dr Paul on the campaign trail. Someone at the campaign needs to wise up and realize what's happening.

[Ron LOL]

Tucker strikes again indeed. I don't get that guy.

[Primbs]

With friends like that who needs enemies.

[James R]

NPR article
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16685996

I think that is a positive article, not a negative one.

[nayjevin]

I don't know exactly where tucker falls, but....

if he had any balls at all he would quit his job and begin cementing his place online - where all media of any consequence will occur in the future.

he's betting to be on the side of the 'old media' elite, and to me, that's a sellout.

[mconder]

Calm down people. Tucker likes Paul.

I don't see how you can say that with the last comment in the article:

Paul thinks there should be no "government-sponsored safety net" — a concept almost unimaginable to most voters. "I think if some of them thought that through, they would no longer be on Ron Paul's side," Carlson says.

[shadowhooch]

Yeah,
He's a friend like Eddie Haskel was to Beaver Cleaver. He's nice to your face but only means trouble. :rolleyes:

[jd603]

They are trying to hurt Ron by associating him with Tucker as much as possible... Tucker getting paid? Or is he just scared of losing his job at MSNBC?



NPR article
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16685996

[tmg19103]

I don't think Tucker is a neocon plant. He is part of big media. I think two things are in play - what his bosses want him to do and ratings, and the two go hand-in-hand.

RP actually mentioned on Morning Joe that they were going to have a meeting about Tucker following them around. Not sure if his was joking or not.

I would have welcomed this three months ago when any news was good news, but if Tucker has a whole show on this right before the primaries and it is too negative, it will really hurt. On the other hand, he could really help.

However, with the stunts he has been pulling, I think it is best for the campaign to dump him - if possible. Can't stop a reporter from following you around, though, so maybe they need to play up to him. Tough situation.

[penxv]

When it comes to tv personalities... I think any deep coverage is good coverage at this point. It isn't like he is just passing Dr. Paul off as some Kucinich-like wannabe.

Even if people have a negative opinion of him at first. People will watch the debates and RP's genuine personality will shine. Also... even when people are not on board at first, Ron Paul makes them think. And that's good.

Right now... reality tv, sports, and politics are the only real entertainment options on tv... with the writers strike going on and all. So I think that things are coming together very nicely.

[adwads]

By extension, the writer continues, that means Paul thinks there should be no "government-sponsored safety net" — a concept almost unimaginable to most voters. "I think if some of them thought that through, they would no longer be on Ron Paul's side," Carlson says.


Of course, he neglects to cover the fact that those dependent already would not be left in the cold.

The states and local governments could have safety nets if they want...it's just tha the federal government shouldn't be doing it. I wish this nuance in Paul's position would be explained better.

[kylejack]

I think that is a positive article, not a negative one.

Listen to the interview on that page, its fantastic!

[Seanmc30]

Im not sure I would call that a hit piece...I'm not the biggest fan of Tucker, but in his defense he is a political pundit....these guys are paid to create controversy.

[winston_blade]

That was great. You all need to calm down. Tucker likes RP.

[filmmaker58]

Great interview?!!! "What are they going to do with the money when he doesn't win"? Like it's just not possible, like any other of the republican choices have anything to offer. I can't wait till these aholes have to call him Mr. President!

[kylejack]

That was great. You all need to calm down. Tucker likes RP.

Yep. I'm glad he made it out to the rally, because I think he discovered that while the war is a big deal with supporters, they're also driven by monetary policy. I think he's starting to see that we really do know quite a bit about Ron Paul and still love him. He's obviously been concerned previously that we were oblivious to Ron's libertarian views.

[The Plan]

Hold on guys.....
With all honesty i don't think Tucker has it out for Ron Paul. I think you all are getting a little too jumpy from all these attacks Ron has been getting from these other guys. I think he's actually saying the truth of what is on his mind just like all of us are doing everyday on here. I think he definitly needs even more time with us supporters to actually understand that we do know exacly what doing away with a government safety net will do. i think he's slightly underestimated our intelligence a bit in that regard. It's going to take a while for him to realise this. I think we have legitimatly suprised him with how smart we actually are but he still doesn't grasp the exact depth of it. Call me crazy if you want to but i think he knows that his opinion isn't exactly going to sway allot of voters, his ratings should have made that pretty clear to him by now. I think if he was going to do something to attack us and get attention to drive up his ratings he would have made it much more blatant.
I think what he stated is a perfectly reasonable first impression. We should give him a chance so he can dig a little deeper. He knows Ron's positions on everything basicly and he readily admits that he vote for Ron in '88 right out there in the open. I think he is waiting to see if this support for Ron is really what he hopes it is and it's up to us to show him. His commentary should show us that even with as hard as we are trying we still didn't express the full depths of our devotion to Ron effectivly on all his views. This just means that we need to work that much harder to make it know that we know what we are doing by working so hard.

[kylejack]

Great interview?!!! "What are they going to do with the money when he doesn't win"? Like it's just not possible, like any other of the republican choices have anything to offer. I can't wait till these aholes have to call him Mr. President!
IF he doesn't get the nomination. She did not say "when".

[Mithridates]

Yeah, I just listened to the interview and it was very good. Besides the one comment about social safety nets he pretty much gushed about how principled Ron Paul is, how he carries out his laissez-faire attitude not just in his speeches but with his staff as well and is very averse to telling people what they should do.

Let's not forget that most people vote on who they *like* and believe they can trust, not the person that they agree with 100%.

Here are some points from the radio interview:

-RP is the fashionable candidate (GQ)
-RP eats brownies supporters make for him, very laid back
-RP is the reluctant candidate, the most real and least phony candidate Tucker has ever covered, and completely without pretense
-He is completely against the idea of telling you what you want to do; you're an adult. But he has never even seen marijuana, has nothing to do with any of that
-He's not a demagogue
-RP didn't organize the 5th of November, it was completely grassroots (corrected the radio host here)
-Mentioned the fundraiser on the 16th and the date, mentioned again that it's a spontaneous fundraising activity by the grassroots

90% positive. It was a good interview.

[Revolution9]

I cant believe this guy

The simple explanation. There is a recent website called savetucker.com. It claimed the top brass were set to fire him and to send emails to keep him on the air. The paycheque writers/PTB/Oligarch money powers got his balls in a vice. He has to smear and contrive setups so that the compression is relieved.

However..as a man I find this reprehensible for him to kneel down and suck up. He will end up cursing his soul in the dark of night "darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there..what does he care".

Best Regards
Randy

[Revolution9]

I don't think Tucker is a neocon plant. He is part of big media.

This is similar to saying that isn't a golf ball it is a ball you play golf with.

HTH
Randy

[shadowhooch]

Listen to the interview on that page, its fantastic!

You are right. The audio interview is really good. The author of the written piece just picked out and focused on the negative things from it.

Okay, Tucker isn't all that bad. Man, I'm a flip flopper.:p

[takencxp]

I think all the MSM will do anything to discredit Paul ...

[takencxp]

Some coverage is good, but he is not getting enough... We have to do what we can to get his name out there..

[evadmurd]

That was an excellent audio. Cut Tucker some slack. He is on our side!

[familydog]

The obsession with Tucker on this forum is starting to get scary.

[MS0453]

Calm down people. Tucker likes Paul.

I don't see how you can say that with the last comment in the article:

Paul thinks there should be no "government-sponsored safety net" — a concept almost unimaginable to most voters. "I think if some of them thought that through, they would no longer be on Ron Paul's side," Carlson says.

Maybe you haven't noticed America lately, but it's a gigantic welfare state.

I share his (Tucker's) concern about how committed everyone (because obviously everyone on board with the campaign isn't a libertarian. And by everyone, I also mean the entire American populous as well.) is to actually getting getting rid of the fed. gov across the board. (Welfare + Warfare)

[transistor]

Hey Tucker, you aren't helping

[iddo]

Great interview in my humble opinion. If Tucker was just gushing over RP, the listeners would get bored thinking that it's a one-sided fairy tale. Instead, Tucker brings across RP's message in a very clear way, so anyone listening should understand what RP is about.

[kylejack]

Hey Tucker, you aren't helping

I have a real hard time believing anyone who listened to the interview came away from it with a negative experience.

[Ron Paul Fan]

Yeah, the interview is a lot better than the article. Tucker had a lot of kind words to say about Ron Paul.

[max]

Tucker is a double agent...no doubt about it now.

[angrydragon]

I hate how he said Ron Paul supporters are smart, then says if we figured out (implying that we're dumb) what Ron Paul really means about getting the government off our backs and having self-responsibility, that we'd not support him anymore. I think we all get what Ron Paul has been saying with freedom and personal responsibility.

[Pete Kay]

Tucker did a good job. I think the host was a condecending @*!%. I was annoyed by her smarmy dismissal of Dr. Paul as a candidate. I used to think NPR was a fair news network and listened to it daily, but I have waited and waited to hear Ron Paul discussed in their political roundup and he is only brought up to be dismissed. It shocks me that Rudy Giulliani gets so much better treatment and the guy has a mountain of baggage that is open and known, not t mention all the dirt that has yet to be dug up.

[tmg19103]

Quote:
Originally Posted by tmg19103
I don't think Tucker is a neocon plant. He is part of big media.

This is similar to saying that isn't a golf ball it is a ball you play golf with.

HTH
Randy

My point is that I don't think Tucker is a neocon, but he is under pressure from neocon media bosses. He is walking a tightrope - wanting to do what is right while also trying to keep his job. That is exactly why I left the corporate world to start my own business. Tucker has to live with himself.

[Janet0116]

I apologize, I did not listen to the audio clip (I didnt even notice it was there until you guys mentioned it), I just read the article, so the author was the one guilty of picking the worst of the sound bites from the audio to include in her article. Mea culpa

[Nash]

Some quotes from the clip by Tucker:

"best educated group of supporters I've ever seen ... average Ron Paul supporter has a real interest in civics."

"the most real, least phony candidate I've ever covered."

[1000-points-of-fright]

Amazing what happens when you actual listen to someone's words instead of reading them? Changes everything doesn't it.

Some of you guys need to relax. This is why RP supporters get such a bad rap.

[nunaem]

With friends like that who needs enemies.

No kidding. When is the campaign going to kick him from their events?

[Elwar]

That Alison chick was the one attacking Ron Paul, Tucker was actually supportive of Ron Paul even mentioning the Dec. 16th fundraiser.

"What's he going to do with all of that money that he's raising?"

[Elwar]

And that NPR piece was a hit piece as well...I would've never gotten that last line from Tucker after listening to the interview...

He was talking about how America is too reliant on the government, etc etc. after about a minute of talking about how most Americans rely too much on the government he mentions how some Ron Paul supporters might not support him if they realized that they would no longer have the government teet to suck on. Which is true...look at all the people who think that Kucinich is a good VP for Ron Paul...

[lew]

This thread is one big reason why a lot of people think Paul supporters are kooks.



Tucker is NOT a neo-con plant or anything else that retarded. Get a grip, people.

[Malakai0]

TUCKER IS ANOTHER MEDIA TOOL, JUST IGNORE HIM.


Man I could have a thousand posts in this forum posting basically the same thing. Keep doing what we're doing, and ignore the media attacks.


Man if (when) RP wins the primary, they are going to attack him sooo much worse than now. They will say he's a socialist, a communist, a nazi, ect. Ignore em, spread the truth, and have fun. These lead to victory. The voraciousness of the media attacks are a sign we are doing very well, they cannot ignore us anymore.


Off to the FL debate and rally, have fun guys!

[Craig_R]

I have a real hard time believing anyone who listened to the interview came away from it with a negative experience.

believe it, I have and I did. Not that I found tucker was being negative, just that the average NPR listener may get the wrong impressions from the things tucker was saying.

I've already posted the specifics of what was wrong with it here but I guess I'll have to do it again.


Tuckers story about Ron not wanting to tell his "people" to turn up the heat in the van or whatever comes off to joe sixpack as he's a pussy.

Going on about how "extreme" Rons views are makes grandma six pack very afraid

Saying if his supporters only knew how extreme his views are makes joe and grandma six pack think we're idiots, kooks, crazy, ect...

touting the fact that Ron wants , and he emphisized this, NO government intervention on peoples lives makes grandma six pack think chaos will ensue, there will be no police, fire protection ect...

Sure the interview sounds pretty good to someone already familiar with Ron Paul and his ideology, but to joe sixpack it comes off as quite negative and tuckers enthusiasm comes off as amusement.

we have been self censoring as of late to reach a broader section of "asleep" people. Tucker just lifted up our veil on NATIONAL RADIO

how many are going to hear that and come away thinking "hmm I'll have to check into this Ron Paul guy"? as opposed to those that come away from hearing that thinking "thats just crazy"?

[slantedview]

i hate him.

LOL. you guys are funny going back and forth with tucker.

Our motto should be: TRUST NO ONE.

[ColinCohen]

I thought Tucker was very positive. The female reporter, though, was terrible -- ignorant and completely lacking objectivity.

[fletcher]

That was a good interview. The worst part of it was in the being when the interviewer said he wanted to outlaw abortion. Other than that Tucker spoke very highly of Dr. Paul. He is starting to understand. I don't think he'll be making fun of Ron Paul supporters anymore.

[reduen]

That was a good interview. The worst part of it was in the being when the interviewer said he wanted to outlaw abortion. Other than that Tucker spoke very highly of Dr. Paul. He is starting to understand. I don't think he'll be making fun of Ron Paul supporters anymore.

Outlaw abortion = Outlawing murder = Protecting Life

Ron Paul wants to protect all life in America... :)

[fletcher]

Outlaw abortion = Outlawing murder = Protecting Life

Ron Paul wants to protect all life in America... :)

Yes, but there is nothing that can be done on the federal level without an amendment, which is why Paul wants it to go to the states. I just think it may turn the npr crowd off.

[dsentell]

With friends like that who needs enemies.

You read my mind . . . :mad:

[V-rod]

Tucker was being his honest, dumb self. I mean c'mon, he didn't even know how a lot of Ron Paul supporters supported sound money. What does that tell you?

[FreedomAndLaw]

aha