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crhoades
11-28-2007, 07:49 AM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/scheuer6.html

Excellent article!


But that is why Dr. Paul’s voice is important and, increasingly, is being listened to by Americans. It also the reason that the slander machines of the Democrat and Republican parties, U.S. military-related industries and their financiers, and the foreign lobbies are working overtime to discredit and ridicule Dr. Paul. These self-appointed elites know that Dr. Paul’s voice is not only the authentic voice of Americans and their historical experience, but also potentially the voice of their doom, because impotence, shame, and drastically less war-profiteering will be theirs if the rule-of-law endorsed by Mr. Paul is reestablished in the United States.


If you listen to Mr. Paul you will hear a man devoted to his country’s welfare and his countrymen; knowledgeable about and respectful of its history; realistic about the increasingly barbaric world in which it exists; and, most of all, fully aware of the fragility of America’s republican experiment and its absolute dependence on the constant nurturing provided by the rule of law. If elected, Mr. Paul would reshape America in a direction that would be in America’s best interests.




In an America led by the non-interventionist Dr. Paul, the world would see a more confident and less aggressive nation; a nation more humble, prosperous, and equitable; and a nation willing to let all other nations and peoples work out their own destinies, peaceably or violently, as they wish. America would get back to its own business and interests, and the rest of the post-Cold War world’s nations would be left alone to try, at long last, to grow into responsible adults.

Mandrik
11-28-2007, 07:54 AM
...and the rest of the post-Cold War world’s nations would be left alone to try, at long last, to grow into responsible adults.

Amen

shadowhooch
11-28-2007, 08:03 AM
This is the same Michael Schuer that was head of the Bin Laden unit of the CIA, right?

hocaltar
11-28-2007, 08:12 AM
This is the same Michael Schuer that was head of the Bin Laden unit of the CIA, right?

Yes.

shadowhooch
11-28-2007, 08:18 AM
It would be great if there was a headline:

"Former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit endorses Ron Paul"

Why doesn't Scheuer do it already?

JordanL
11-28-2007, 08:24 AM
and the rest of the post-Cold War world’s nations would be left alone to try, at long last, to grow into responsible adults.

I don't understand this one with the neo-cons, (or rather the people who vote for neo-cons).

They want the US military to be everywhere and everything, because we're just that damn good.

They also resent that the rest of the world is all talk and no action; that they leech off of our efforts.

These are two opposing positions. Anytime you further one you hurt the other.

EDIT: I guess the fear is that if we let these other countries grow into adults, some of them will be irresponsible ones that we will have to deal with in a bar fight instead of a temper tantrum.

crhoades
11-28-2007, 08:29 AM
EDIT: I guess the fear is that if we let these other countries grow into adults, some of them will be irresponsible ones that we will have to deal with in a bar fight instead of a temper tantrum.

But knowing us...we'll be hitting on the girlfriend and break the bottle on their head first!

adpierce
11-28-2007, 08:33 AM
It would be great if there was a headline:

"Former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit endorses Ron Paul"

Why doesn't Scheuer do it already?

As far as I can tell he already has with quotes like that. You'll be hard pressed to find statements less pro-Ron Paul than that.

shadowhooch
11-28-2007, 08:40 AM
As far as I can tell he already has with quotes like that. You'll be hard pressed to find statements less pro-Ron Paul than that.

Wow, I guess I missed the headline of "Former Head of the CIA's Bin Laden Unit Endorses Ron Paul" on Fox, CNN, ABC, and MSNBC then. :rolleyes:

JordanL
11-28-2007, 08:43 AM
But knowing us...we'll be hitting on the girlfriend and break the bottle on their head first!

Yeah. I still think that having those two positions makes no sense at all.

TruckinMike
11-28-2007, 09:29 AM
There is not a whole lot more I can add... other than

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2223/2071672188_bc93451db0.jpg

TruckinMike

DealzOnWheelz
11-28-2007, 09:45 AM
Somebody get his email and try to get him to give an all out endorsement

jacmicwag
11-28-2007, 12:07 PM
Scheuer gets blasted on Townhall and other conservative sites for being a defeatist. They treat him like Paul but his credentials with the CIA still give him a lot of clout.

LinearChaos
11-28-2007, 12:19 PM
Scheuer has been on a tear recently. I read all of his articles, they are really good. He does all his research using open sources too, and he is proof of how worthless the cold war secrecy relic that we call the CIA is. Something like ~97% of all intelligence information can be obtained from open sources.

He was the one mentioned in the Bin Laden tape as well. Scheuer said that all the candidates, besides Dr. Paul, are marching to the drum of Al Qaeda and doing exactly what OBL wants. Scheuer's archives are also on antiwar.com:

http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/

He has written good books (http://books.google.com/books?as_auth=Michael+Scheuer&ots=RBKD_xK7Jm&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=author-navigational)

Here he is clearing up some things for Bill Maher, and making Maher look rather foolish:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ohz0omUjIE

He is also the guy that RP had the press conference with after the first Fox Debate, where they assigned Scoop and Dump his reading list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAt6Pf7jZjA

steph3n
11-28-2007, 12:23 PM
Wow, I guess I missed the headline of "Former Head of the CIA's Bin Laden Unit Endorses Ron Paul" on Fox, CNN, ABC, and MSNBC then. :rolleyes:

He was in a news conference with the campaign and Dr Paul after the May debate. That is pretty much a solid endorsement :D

Liberty
11-28-2007, 01:01 PM
Scheuer has been on a tear recently. I read all of his articles, they are really good. He does all his research using open sources too, and he is proof of how worthless the cold war secrecy relic that we call the CIA is. Something like ~97% of all intelligence information can be obtained from open sources.

He was the one mentioned in the Bin Laden tape as well. Scheuer said that all the candidates, besides Dr. Paul, are marching to the drum of Al Qaeda and doing exactly what OBL wants. Scheuer's archives are also on antiwar.com:

http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/

He has written good books (http://books.google.com/books?as_auth=Michael+Scheuer&ots=RBKD_xK7Jm&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=author-navigational)

Here he is clearing up some things for Bill Maher, and making Maher look rather foolish:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ohz0omUjIE

He is also the guy that RP had the press conference with after the first Fox Debate, where they assigned Scoop and Dump his reading list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAt6Pf7jZjA

Thanks for posting these links. What else does Scheuer know, that he can't talk about? He seems totally confident with his positions.

axiomata
11-28-2007, 02:14 PM
bump for excellence

Plus the John Q. Adams quote I hadn't read before, and it is awesome.


Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her [the United States’] heart, her benedictions, and her prayers be. But she does not go abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. … She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force. … She might become the dictatress of the world. She would no longer be the ruler of her own spirit.

adpierce
11-28-2007, 03:28 PM
Thanks for posting these links. What else does Scheuer know, that he can't talk about? He seems totally confident with his positions.

I don't know because he can't talk about them.