[Pic] Unidentified Navy Officer Sums It All Up #SYRIA ~ Zerohedge

[ctiger2]

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-31/unidentified-marine-sums-it-all

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2013/08-2/MARINE.jpg

LOL!

[Dr.3D]

Looks like a Chief Gunners Mate.

[kcchiefs6465]

What a shame.

Has to hide his face for fear of retribution.

[Cutlerzzz]

What a shame.

Has to hide his face for fear of retribution.

I hope that there is no way to identify him based on that photo.

[MelissaWV]

What a shame.

Has to hide his face for fear of retribution.

I think it is way more powerful as an anonymous photograph. Once they find out things about you, they use anything and everything to undermine you and make your message mean less. There is a reason superheroes wear masks.

[Pericles]

Looks like a Chief Gunners Mate.

Or maybe a master-at-arms, with a Purple Heart, I was thinking the sign might be hiding a SEAL badge.

[Dr.3D]

Or maybe a master-at-arms, with a Purple Heart, I was thinking the sign might be hiding a SEAL badge.
I thought perhaps that was a pair of dolphins.

[Pericles]

I thought perhaps that was a pair of dolphins.

Looked like rifles to me - but what do I know about Navy stuff. I think they have taken a few too many turns to portside.

[Cutlerzzz]

I think it is way more powerful as an anonymous photograph. Once they find out things about you, they use anything and everything to undermine you and make your message mean less. There is a reason superheroes wear masks.

A man is flash and blood. He can be ignored, he can be destroyed. But as a symbol, he can be incorruptible, he can be everlasting.

[Icymudpuppy]

That's quite the fruit salad he's wearing.

[ctiger2]

He's most likely bald and got black glasses on... so I think it's Moby in disguise.

[fearthereaperx]

Saw this on another site, looks like an RPF member made this go viral.

[shane77m]

Maybe more in the military will catch on and start to say NO.

[CaseyJones]

didn't I see a soldier in fatigues holding a similar sign over his face yesterday?

[kcchiefs6465]

didn't I see a soldier in fatigues holding a similar sign over his face yesterday?
Yes.

God bless.

[jjdoyle]

I wonder if O'Reilly and Hannity are going to say this active service military member has no heart and soul or call him a loon. Somebody should make that an ad, with this guy's photo just on the screen with them in the corners saying their complete idiocy.

[paulbot24]

I wonder if O'Reilly and Hannity are going to say this active service military member has no heart and soul or call him a loon. Somebody should make that an ad, with this guy's photo just on the screen with them in the corners saying their complete idiocy.

Yes. Guys like O'Reilly and Hannity know what our active duty personnel should be doing and thinking, even if they are too "dumb" to realize it at the time. Especially when they are deployed overseas and unable to find out the truth from our MSM, it's easy to see how they could be confused about what is really going on over there....since they are all the way over there and everything. Riiiiiiiight.

[goRPaul]

His rank is Chief Petty Officer, same grade as a Gunnery Sergeant in the Marine Corps. Even though 'officer' is in the name, it is still an enlisted rank, not an officer. Impressive stack though.

[fr33]

If you are willing to invade Syria, who has not threatened our security, you are willing to invade our own country. Following orders is not a valid excuse unless you support martial law and other forms of tyranny.

[puppetmaster]

But but the TV commercial say they are "A global force for good"........

[RonPaulFanInGA]

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[MelissaWV]

Yes. Guys like O'Reilly and Hannity know what our active duty personnel should be doing and thinking, even if they are too "dumb" to realize it at the time. Especially when they are deployed overseas and unable to find out the truth from our MSM, it's easy to see how they could be confused about what is really going on over there....since they are all the way over there and everything. Riiiiiiiight.

Simple. This person OBVIOUSLY bought those medals/ribbons from a thrift shop. They aren't really a soldier. It's some radical OWS fringe Paulian type impersonating a soldier.

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[tod evans]

Oathkeepers have anything to say?

[KEEF]

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[Cap]

E-7 Gunners mate.

[osan]

What a shame.

Has to hide his face for fear of retribution.

He hasn't hidden nearly enough. I've worked on image processing. If Theye want him, they will ID him from the image above. They know he is a chief gunner's mate and they have an ear and a hand from which to work. They know he wears glasses. That is a LOT of information. I hope Theye just don't give a shit who this guy is, for his sake.

PS: and his riband stack is another screaming clue as to his ID

[HOLLYWOOD]

Yeah, I didn't want to say anything, but very easy to narrow down who it is, from all the symbols in the photo. His 'Fruit salad' is the dead giveaway.
He hasn't hidden nearly enough. I've worked on image processing. If Theye want him, they will ID him from the image above. They know he is a chief gunner's mate and they have an ear and a hand from which to work. They know he wears glasses. That is a LOT of information. I hope Theye just don't give a shit who this guy is, for his sake.

PS: and his riband stack is another screaming clue as to his ID

[Cap]

If they are successful in outing this guy, I hope that the blow-back from this is deafening from fellow service members.

[JoshLowry]

1990

h/t http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1lifcv/i_didnt_join_the_marine_corps_to_fight_for_al/

[green73]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/1235435_507673669310054_1442353078_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=507673669310054&set=a.125603400850418.27874.125598484184243&type=1&ref=nf

[MelissaWV]

Good. It's catching on.

[enhanced_deficit]

Good. It's catching on.

Blue dog democrats/neocons/Reagan Republicans will be disappointed. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?423269-Photo-Essay-Crash-course-on-origins-of-Al-Qaeda&p=5157355#post5157355)

[fr33]

Made a pic including all that were posted here:

http://i42.tinypic.com/2zdn9fp.jpg

[Pericles]

Good. It's catching on.

That ^

[69360]

I hope they are out of the service now or don't get caught for the ucmj violation.

[Cap]

Fire up your twitters guys and gals.

[Pericles]

I hope they are out of the service now or don't get caught for the ucmj violation.

A recent confidential survey taken in the Army has the vote of no confidence in Army leadership at between 50% and 60% depending on the wording of the questions.

[69360]

A recent confidential survey taken in the Army has the vote of no confidence in Army leadership at between 50% and 60% depending on the wording of the questions.

Probably true. But the rules are the rules. The military cant' be involved in politics for many good reasons.

[Lucille]

A recent confidential survey taken in the Army has the vote of no confidence in Army leadership at between 50% and 60% depending on the wording of the questions.

It probably has something to do w/ this (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-abusive-army/):


2) During the build up/surge, recruitment needs were such that standards dropped to serious lows. Waivers were granted willy-nilly. As a result, the service ended up with a lot of shiftless thugs who have now served long enough to be in leadership positions (or at least positions where they can be obstructionist and demoralizing).

Neo-Trots left and right have weakened our military with their insane endless wars.

[GunnyFreedom]

Need an Air Force NCO to round out the deployable branches...

[Pericles]

It probably has something to do w/ this (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-abusive-army/):



Neo-Trots left and right have weakened our military with their insane endless wars.

Were it so - the standards start to drop in 2005, and that means the less than desirable have 8 years in or less, making most of them recent E-6 or below. Every year, some 50,000 to 60,000 leave active duty, so there is plenty of existing opportunity to churn the lower ranks. The issue with cuts, such as the 2014 year, is that Army strength gets reduced by about 20% in one year. Going from 43 combat brigades to 35 combat brigades, means fewer colonels and so on down the line. It means tossing out career E-5s, E-6s, and some E-7s before they would qualify for a pension.

The survey info I have does not show a breakdown by rank, but I suspect the loss of confidence is spreading up the chain. Even the Marines, which have a tradition, of once you make E-6, will make sure you can stay to retirement, have put out the message, that they can no longer maintain this policy. When the chain of command breaks down, the results are not just a loss of unit effectiveness, but more abuse of subordinates, and civilians whenever the opportunity to do so presents itself.

[pcosmar]

Probably true. But the rules are the rules. The military cant' be involved in politics for many good reasons.

Perhaps not. but they are anyway.

And when I was in,, we were told to question orders.. and to refuse unlawful orders.

[kcchiefs6465]

Perhaps not. but they are anyway.

And when I was in,, we were told to question orders.. and to refuse unlawful orders.
This.

Following orders is not a defense for war crimes.

[Pericles]

This.

Following orders is not a defense for war crimes.

It is only a defense against murder charges in the US.

[GunnyFreedom]

I have made a Fedbook album of these 4 photos, and tagged every account for my whole Congressional delegation. Here's hoping more emerge, and they land in this thread, because I will keep adding to the album, and NC's Congressional delegation WILL see them!

[GunnyFreedom]

Looking for more of these, if they exist, then my Googl-fu is weak today. :p

[MelissaWV]

http://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/SyriaIII.jpg

[tod evans]

Where is Oathkeepers in this?

[MelissaWV]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTCIEVHCEAEW98v.jpg

[tod evans]

Those who fail to learn from their mistakes are destined to repeat them...

http://cdn.calisphere.org/data/13030/12/kt1p302412/files/kt1p302412-d3e3257.jpg

[jct74]

GOP CONGRESSMAN: Military Members Keep Telling Me To Vote No On Syria

PAUL SZOLDRA
AUG. 31, 2013, 7:29 PM

After President Obama delivered a speech in the Rose Garden where he said the United States "should" strike Syria following a deadly chemical weapons attack, Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) took to Twitter to dispute that claim with comments from those who would likely carry out that order.

"I've been hearing a lot from members of our Armed Forces," Amash tweeted. "The message I consistently hear: Please vote no on military action against Syria."

Now that Obama has deferred to congressional debate, a vote on striking Syria would likely come up on the week of Sep. 9. The President probably has the support of the Senate, but the vote could have some trouble in the House, as Josh Barro points out.

Since Amash's initial tweet, he's been retweeting comments that have been sent in from military members and veterans. Many of my own military sources have expressed reservations with action in Syria, especially following service in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

...

http://www.businessinsider.com/justin-amash-military-no-syria-2013-8


check out the retweets on his twitter account:

https://twitter.com/repjustinamash

[Cleaner44]

This is the stuff that needs to be tweeted and retweeted often.

I am @cleaner4d4

[shane77m]

https://sphotos-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185266_225491330939003_236276677_n.jpg

[GunnyFreedom]

There is an AF guy I found, but it was part of an instagrammed collage. Can't find the source. Google Image Search did not help because the instagram filter killed it. Need the full-size good res version for my Fedbook album. :-/

1991

[GunnyFreedom]

This album, for Fedbookians:

https://www.facebook.com/glenbradley/media_set?set=a.10151898497863274.1073741828.65073 3273&type=3

[KEEF]

http://www.businessinsider.com/justin-amash-military-no-syria-2013-8


check out the retweets on his twitter account:

https://twitter.com/repjustinamash
From Amash after his briefing with O bomb ya about Syria

https://twitter.com/repjustinamash/status/374319778053509120

What I heard in Obama admn briefing actually makes me more skeptical of certain significant aspects of Pres's case for attacking #Syria (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Syria&src=hash).

[puppetmaster]

Hell he did not say anything against the military......

[KEEF]

This album, for Fedbookians:

https://www.facebook.com/glenbradley/media_set?set=a.10151898497863274.1073741828.65073 3273&type=3
Gunny, I do not have a facebook account, so I went and tweeted your link above. I apologize for any unnecessary facebook traffic, but it is for the better.

[CaseyJones]

Some US Troops Appear To Be Posting Photos In Protest Of Syrian Intervention

http://www.businessinsider.com/troops-protest-syria-military-strike-2013-9

[GunnyFreedom]

Gunny, I do not have a facebook account, so I went and tweeted your link above. I apologize for any unnecessary facebook traffic, but it is for the better.

No such animal as unnecessary Fb traffic. The only reason to have Fb is to maximize traffic. :p

The good news is I do (almost) everything totally public, so people will be able to see my album even if they are not connected to me.

Seven so far, thanks to the good folks in this thread

1992

[Mani]

I love this. Basically, put these pics up and then the tag line.....support the troops.

And you have just fucked with the war mongers who always say...support the troops. As their cop out expression of having any real discussion about our foreign policy.

[KEEF]

No such animal as unnecessary Fb traffic. The only reason to have Fb is to maximize traffic. :p

The good news is I do (almost) everything totally public, so people will be able to see my album even if they are not connected to me.

Seven so far, thanks to the good folks in this thread

1992
Nice, that screen shot can be tweeted.

R/T https://twitter.com/G_fasciatus/status/374347226408960000

[fr33]

Made another image:

http://dissidentx.com/images/dontattacksyria.jpg

[libertariantexas]

I'm an old guy (50+), but still an officer in the Army Reserves.

I agree with these guys.

I did NOT join the US Army to support Al Queda against a dictator.

The USA has no business getting involved in a Syrian Civil War!

[libertariantexas]

https://sphotos-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185266_225491330939003_236276677_n.jpg

I'm an old Army guy, but still on the Reserve Rolls as an 03. I haven't been on active duty for almost 20 years, but I'm still on the reserve rolls.

I oppose Obama's military misadventure in Iraq, and would gladly show my face as opposing the war.

What are they going to do, send me to Vietnam?

Fuck Obama and his fellow warmongers!

[Lucille]

Tea Party Troops Protest Syria Strike On Facebook, Raise Questions About Military Code Of Conduct
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/armed-forces-tea-party-syria_n_3865480.html


Dissent is brewing at the Armed Forces Tea Party Facebook page.

In series of anonymous posts, a number of uniformed service members have taken a stance against a potential engagement in Syria against President Bashar al-Assad, using political arguments that have sparked a debate about the behavior's legality.

This montage, shared more than 1,000 times, describes concerns about the role that al Qaeda and other extremists play in the rebel forces.
[...]
"I didn't sign up to kill the poor for the rich," reads another posting on the Armed Forces Tea Party page, which isn't officially affiliated with the military.

While those opposed to the intervention have claimed that displacing Assad could create a power vacuum to be filled by anti-American extremists, some have argued that active members of the military are violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice by publicly airing such grievances.

Politix points out that a "Failure to obey order or regulation" or "Contempt toward officials" are both punishable by court-martial.

One service member posted a photo suggesting he believes the dissenting displays are inappropriate:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1333673/original.jpg

In a column at the Daily Banter, journalist Chez Pazienza accused the Armed Forces Tea Party of mounting a partisan political campaign as much about opposing President Barack Obama as is about military engagement in Syria:


But the fact that you hate Barack Obama is meaningless; he’s your boss. When he tells you to jump, you say “how high?” Why? Because if you don’t the entire machine that is the all-volunteer United States military -- rightly and often referred to as the greatest fighting force that’s ever existed upon this earth -- breaks down, and that endangers all of us, regardless of whichever political belief we each happen to adhere to.

Pazienza goes on to write that he's never served in the military.

Further complicating matters, Politix reported Wednesday that the pro-Assad Syrian Electronic Army had posted a number of the service members' pictures during hack of the official U.S. Marine Corps website.

"Marines, please take a look at what your comrades think about Obama's alliance with Al Qaeda in Syria," the SEA's message on the Marine site read, before being taken down.

Politics, Facebook and the military have intersected controversially in the past. Marine Sgt. Gary Stein launched the Armed Forces Tea Party Patriots back in 2012, urging service members to exercise their free speech. Stein's group caught the attention of his superiors after he made a number of posts criticizing Obama, and he ultimately received an other-than-honorable discharge.

[shane77m]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1333673/original.jpg

He would probably be the one that would fire on Americans.

[Lucille]

He would probably be the one that would fire on Americans.

Oh wow. You're right. He probably would.

[kcchiefs6465]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1333673/original.jpg

He would probably be the one that would fire on Americans.
He'll probably be the one to put a bullet in his head.

He looks like one sorry, sad man. I wonder how much, if anything, he has seen.

The mantra he must tell himself, probably. To absolve himself of the sins he committed. "Just following orders"- as if that makes a bit of difference. In his mind, it probably does.

Could be wrong about him. His expression looks like that of hopelessness though.

[Root]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1333673/original.jpg

He would probably be the one that would fire on Americans.
He's right. Serve your Arab masters.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?426486-John-Kerry-quot-Let-s-Rent-Out-Our-Army-quot

[Pericles]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1333673/original.jpg

He would probably be the one that would fire on Americans.

OK Army guys, tell me what is wrong with this picture (hint: ribbons and their order) besides the obvious.

[purplechoe]

You don't join to say "I refuse"...

What about the Nuremberg trials and simply saying "I was just obeying orders" is not a justification for committing atrocities?