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enhanced_deficit
08-30-2013, 10:40 PM
to US public , considering that only 9% of US public supports US military intervention in Syria?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rx83YwkLAp0#t=39

“We know Assad has used these weapons, and there is good reason to suspect the al Qaida-affiliated rebels would use them as well if they could get their hands on them. This poses an intolerable threat not only to our friends in the region, but also to the United States. We need to be developing a clear, practical plan to go in, locate the weapons, secure or destroy them, and then get out. The United States should be firmly in the lead to make sure the job is done right.”- Rafael Cruz



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fr33
08-30-2013, 10:55 PM
The US is a bankrupt corporation and those guys aren't actually running the show. The real leaders are milking the world of the wealth that is left and spending the munitions is a part of that.

There is no legitimate reason for the US to attack Syria except that people have to die for other people to get paid.

enhanced_deficit
08-30-2013, 11:05 PM
Good point. On second thought, Q could be phrased as "Would pupms' puppets succeed in turning around US public opinion on Syria?".

eduardo89
08-30-2013, 11:25 PM
Ted Cruz does not want the US to intervene in the war. He does not want to take sides or arm/fund the rebels. Quite misconstruing what he called for.

enhanced_deficit
08-30-2013, 11:30 PM
Ted Cruz does not want the US to intervene in the war.

Did he not call for US military intervention in Syria or has a he flip flopped?

Here he is calling for it while cameras were rolling, sometime after meeting with Israeli groups:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rx83YwkLAp0#t=39



“We know Assad has used these weapons, and there is good reason to suspect the al Qaida-affiliated rebels would use them as well if they could get their hands on them. This poses an intolerable threat not only to our friends in the region, but also to the United States. We need to be developing a clear, practical plan to go in, locate the weapons, secure or destroy them, and then get out. The United States should be firmly in the lead to make sure the job is done right.”- Rafael Cruz



HOUSTON, TX — U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) released the following statement regarding Syria:

Today, the legislative bodies of two of our closest allies are engaged in emergency meetings on the prospect of military engagement in Syria. In Great Britain, Prime Minister David Cameron has called the House of Commons home from vacation to deliberate over the use of force in Syria. In Israel, the Knesset’s Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee is reviewing potential responses should Israel be attacked in the fallout over action in Syria.

In Washington, DC, crickets are chirping.
It may be that there is a compelling case to be made that intervention in Syria is necessary to defend U.S. interests.

http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-crickets-are-chirping-in-washington-while-israel-and-great-britain-are-debating-syria/

69360
08-31-2013, 08:21 AM
Cruz doesn't want to intervene in the war, he misguidedly think the US military can just take away the chemical weapons. In practice they are the same but in his mind they differ, he isn't a hawk like them.

I don't think the Obama administration will bomb Syria. The public is too against it and the consequences are too severe, both to them politically and uber alles Israel.

Peace Piper
08-31-2013, 09:02 AM
Cruz doesn't want to intervene in the war, he misguidedly think the US military can just take away the chemical weapons. In practice they are the same but in his mind they differ, he isn't a hawk like them.

What right does a morally bankrupt nation that defies the Geneva conventions have to even begin to think it can run around the world "taking" other nations property, especially with no proof and no UN approval? Absurd.

http://dc96.4shared.com/img/WMfZ-jZE/s3/11bfc07a058/abu_gharib__11_.jpg




I don't think the Obama administration will bomb Syria. The public is too against it and the consequences are too severe, both to them politically and uber alles Israel.

They aren't going to let a 9% approval rating stop them. They might re-group but they will not stop voluntarily. I'd bet on it. This whole cavalcade of horrors started before the first Project for a New American Century started the bombing of Yugoslavia. We'll see soon enough.


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/18/timestopics/abu-ghraib-190.jpg

osan
08-31-2013, 09:06 AM
I don't think they are "selling" anything - this use of the term itself suggests that "we" have some say in what is going to happen.

This is all about massaging perception in a very subtle way because these are the actions that will be recorded and to which people will refer in later years. It is all part of maintaining the infrastructure of smoke and mirrors so that people down the line in years and decades to come will not be able to get to the truth with any ease and most definitely without any possibility of certainty. These acts taint the future by tainting the present, by leaving false perceptual trails. This is all pure artifice and theater.

Obama and his sock-masters already know what they will do and if they have determined to bomb Syria, it is going to happen regardless whether the entire population stands tall and shouts, "NO!" They are not interested in what you think or want, but they are interested in leaving a false audit trail so that those examining today's events in another generation (even less) will be confounded and lead to believe things about "government" that simply are not true.

Always bear in mind that global power is inter-generational and to that end Theye must always protect Theire future generations from prying eyes so that the mundane is never able to conclusively divine and prove the means and methods of the whipmasters. The mundane will likely never be quite stupid enough that they will pose zero threat to those presuming dominion over them. It therefore behooves Themme to paint the historical pictures THEY want passed forward to their children's children's children. It is cheap insurance that provides powerful defenses. Take heed of the quote that says those who fail to study the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it. This is so very true and Theye understand this far better than the average man. It therefore behooves Themme to best ensure that the historical links be falsified to their benefit and this is at least part of the reason Theye go through these otherwise and seemingly meaningless motions. This is truer now than ever before in human history due to the nature of our technologies which, while they empower Themme in great leaps and bounds, the rest are also empowered significantly and that is ALWAYS a threat to Theire positions.

To understand how Theye operate, one must think as Theye do. Once you begin doing this, much that prior made no sense takes on a new clarity and meaning. It is all tactics in clear and sensible pursuit of the strategy of tyrants.

enhanced_deficit
08-31-2013, 09:30 AM
Good points Peace Piper, Osan.


Cruz doesn't want to intervene in the war, he misguidedly think the US military can just take away the chemical weapons.

Is this a new word play.. statenent above is that Rafael Cruz wants US Military intervention in Syria.

Neither Bush,Cheney, Liberman, Pastor Hagee, Kerry,McCain wanted to intervene in "war in Iraq", they misguidedly thought the US military can just take away the chemical weapons and remove Saddam at a low cost of $50 Billion. $2 Trillion and countless other blowbacks later, we are still there and Iraq after a decade is more unstable than before these misguided dopes decided to intervene in Iraq.

Rafael Cruz is a bigger dope than this guy and McCain, he may have hurt his Senatae re-election chances:
http://portland.indymedia.org/media/images/2005/11/328958.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=collin+powell+iraq&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=1Z9srN7701O1mM&tbnid=1lMpM0dd8hZLKM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fportland.indymedia.org%2Fen%2Freg ion%2Fcascadia%2Fnewswire%2Farchive68.shtml&ei=9QciUr3nLYec9gTN2ICoDw&bvm=bv.51495398,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNF7GDLaqpvM7pgV-TDnv69TBlnkgQ&ust=1378048249512301)

69360
08-31-2013, 09:39 AM
What really pisses me off is that whole "we can't let this happen" deal from the Obama administration. Let me be blunt, I don't care if both sides in Syria kill each other. Neither is good. I don't want innocent people to die, but they have and will continue to weather it's by one of the sides in the civil war or US bombs. This team america world police stuff has gone way too far. I think this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back if Obama and co. do this. Americans have had enough, this is not our problem. 1000 dead Syrians is not worth putting a target on America for no reason.

enhanced_deficit
08-31-2013, 09:49 AM
Americans have had enough, this is not our problem. 1000 dead Syrians is not worth putting a target on America for no reason.

Do you REALLY believe that Obama or his neocon puppet masters care about 1000 arab race people being killed? If so, that is naive thinking.

More than 1000 innocent people of arab race were killed in Gaza when Israel bombed them using chemicals and none of these SWC puppets uttered even a peep against their killing.
Just few days ago over 1000 democratic protesters were killed by neocon funded Egyptian military dictatorship, there were no calls for sending US military to save the arab civilians in Egypt from any quarters or Rafael "Hagee is a great guy" Cruz.

In case you dont know why controversial senator is calling for US military intervention in Syria, he is doing for same reasons Obama is funding Egyptian military dictatorship that just gunned down 1000 plus democratic protesters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9u1sLQRZuQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9u1sLQRZuQ

69360
08-31-2013, 09:58 AM
Do you REALLY believe that Obama or his neocon puppet masters care about 1000 dead arab race people being killed? If so, that is naive thinking.

More than 1000 innocent people of arab race were killed in Gaza when Israel bombed them using chemicals and none of these SWC puppets uttered even a peep against their killing.
Just few days ago over 1000 democratic protesters were killed by neocon funded Egyptiam military dictatorship, there were no calls sending US military to save the arab civilians in Egypt from any quarters or Rafael "Hagee is a great guy" Cruz.

Of course they don't care. I don't think they have anything to gain either, so I doubt the bombs fly

enhanced_deficit
08-31-2013, 10:09 AM
Of course they don't care. I don't think they have anything to gain either, so I doubt the bombs fly

That didn't stop 'shock n awe' bombs flights to Iraq.
In this case more likely reasons for neocons not overtly flyingbombs are fears of Red-Line blowbacks (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?425434-Red-Line-Syria-Iran-threaten-to-destroy-Israeli-nuclear-sites-if-attacked&) and stronger Russia/China opposition.

69360
08-31-2013, 10:38 AM
That didn't stop 'shock n awe' bombs flights to Iraq.
In this case more likely reasons for neocons not overtly flyingbombs are fears of Red-Line blowbacks (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?425434-Red-Line-Syria-Iran-threaten-to-destroy-Israeli-nuclear-sites-if-attacked&) and stronger Russia/China opposition.

There was something to gain in Iraq. They thought they would gain control of the oil. The economy wasn't in the crapper and the US wasn't just out of an unpopular 10 year war and still in another. Very different situation. If the Obama administration does this is it going to be devastating for them politically. I doubt they will.

RickyJ
08-31-2013, 10:53 AM
With the media helping them and more false flag events, it should be easy for them. Many sheep, even some here on these forums, still believe the lie that 19 Arabs did 9/11.

RickyJ
08-31-2013, 10:55 AM
There was something to gain in Iraq. They thought they would gain control of the oil. The economy wasn't in the crapper and the US wasn't just out of an unpopular 10 year war and still in another. Very different situation. If the Obama administration does this is it going to be devastating for them politically. I doubt they will.

Obama is never up for reelection, so why should he care about the political effects of doing this?

Grubb556
08-31-2013, 11:13 AM
Remember the Tonkin Bay incident ? Pretty sure the military will just do that to get an excuse for war.

69360
08-31-2013, 11:22 AM
Obama is never up for reelection, so why should he care about the political effects of doing this?

If he gets in a messy war, the D's have no chance in the next elections, both midterm congressional and the next presidential.

pcosmar
08-31-2013, 11:37 AM
If he gets in a messy war, the D's have no chance in the next elections, both midterm congressional and the next presidential.

What does that matter? The "R" just put up some other Warmonger to replace them.. The agenda continues.

AuH20
08-31-2013, 11:39 AM
With the media helping them and more false flag events, it should be easy for them. Many sheep, even some here on these forums, still believe the lie that 19 Arabs did 9/11.

Yes, the Saudis were involved, most likely aided by the Saudi government. Arabs.

69360
08-31-2013, 11:39 AM
What does that matter? The "R" just put up some other Warmonger to replace them.. The agenda continues.

Matters to them. Obama and his democratic buddies like to be in charge so they can further their domestic agenda.

pcosmar
08-31-2013, 11:43 AM
Matters to them. Obama and his democratic buddies like to be in charge so they can further their domestic agenda.

???,
It is no different.. Bush expanded Socialist health care,,and the Police State.. Romney authored Health Care.

they change the wording and which Corporations benefit most,, nothing else.

It is a damn game.. Go team.

Rocco
08-31-2013, 11:49 AM
Cruz does not want to get involved, he has said this repeatedly over the last several days, you're basically lying.

William R
08-31-2013, 11:52 AM
Ted Cruz has come out against bombing Syria.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ted-cruz-dont-intervene-in-Syria

Too many punk kids on this forum

enhanced_deficit
08-31-2013, 02:36 PM
Cruz does not want to get involved, he has said this repeatedly over the last several days, you're basically lying.

He said this in English language few weeks ago after meeting some Israeli groups, do you have any proof that he has flip flopped?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rx83YwkLAp0#t=39

“We know Assad has used these weapons, and there is good reason to suspect the al Qaida-affiliated rebels would use them as well if they could get their hands on them. This poses an intolerable threat not only to our friends in the region, but also to the United States. We need to be developing a clear, practical plan to go in, locate the weapons, secure or destroy them, and then get out. The United States should be firmly in the lead to make sure the job is done right.”- Rafael Cruz

eduardo89
08-31-2013, 02:40 PM
enhanced_deficit, why do you keep using the name Rafael Cruz instead of Ted Cruz which he prefers to go by? It's as if you're trying to paint someone with a Hispanic name as less American and making it seem like Hispanic people aren't American enough to be respected.

enhanced_deficit
08-31-2013, 02:55 PM
Eduardo, I learnt about him through his wiki page first that listed his real name, just started adding his nick name after some people assumed mistakenly that his nick name was his real name.
I don't watch MSM, he does not like to be addressed by his name? Why?
I dont see anything wrong with his name and base my opinion of his charcater based on his views, his conduct, his parise for likes of hardcore neocon nuts likeHagee, David Horwowitz etc.

Now a question for you too, do you still suggest Rafael "Ted" Cruz did not call for US military intervention in Syria?

69360
08-31-2013, 03:33 PM
enhanced_deficit, why do you keep using the name Rafael Cruz instead of Ted Cruz which he prefers to go by? It's as if you're trying to paint someone with a Hispanic name as less American and making it seem like Hispanic people aren't American enough to be respected.

Same reason people say Barak HUSSEIN Obama. To distract small minded people from the real issue.

fr33
08-31-2013, 03:48 PM
Well it sounds like we'll have the oppurtunity to see how he votes on it.

enhanced_deficit
08-31-2013, 04:04 PM
On a side note, is Rafael Cruz a Zionist like almost all supporters of CUFI/Pastor Hagee are?



http://www.jta.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Sen-Cruz-Monday-Night.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=ted%20cruz%20cufi&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=20RMqimehq453M&tbnid=qzvL24RMR6eiCM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jta.org%2F2013%2F07%2F26%2Fne ws-opinion%2Fpolitics%2Fat-cufi-faith-hagee-substance-pols-and-plenty-of-show-glenn-beck&ei=gXMhUv7oK4208QTruIHYBw&bvm=bv.51495398,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNHp1xx-J8Ts4LSi0jUt8qHAThQjFA&ust=1378010365249946)



Well it sounds like we'll have the oppurtunity to see how he votes on it.

He will vote for US military intervention in Syria if it came to a vote.

mosquitobite
08-31-2013, 04:05 PM
If he gets in a messy war, the D's have no chance in the next elections, both midterm congressional and the next presidential.

I think whichever Congresscritters authorize action will have a HUGE target for defeat.

enhanced_deficit
08-31-2013, 04:09 PM
I think whichever Congresscritters authorize action will have a HUGE target for defeat.

Yes.
I will add, whichever Congrescritters Call for military intervention will be X-Large target for defeat.

69360
08-31-2013, 04:11 PM
On a side note, is Rafael Cruz a Zionist like almost all supporters of CUFI/Pastor Hagee are?



He will vote for US military intervention in Syria if it came to a vote.

If the intervention is cruise missile strikes, he will not. He has a misguided notion that the US military can waltz in get the chemical weapons and waltz out.


I think whichever Congresscritters authorize action will have a HUGE target for defeat.

Yes this will be a huge issue in the 2014 races.

anaconda
08-31-2013, 04:18 PM
I don't think they are "selling" anything - this use of the term itself suggests that "we" have some say in what is going to happen.

This is all about massaging perception in a very subtle way because these are the actions that will be recorded and to which people will refer in later years. It is all part of maintaining the infrastructure of smoke and mirrors so that people down the line in years and decades to come will not be able to get to the truth with any ease and most definitely without any possibility of certainty. These acts taint the future by tainting the present, by leaving false perceptual trails. This is all pure artifice and theater.

Obama and his sock-masters already know what they will do and if they have determined to bomb Syria, it is going to happen regardless whether the entire population stands tall and shouts, "NO!" They are not interested in what you think or want, but they are interested in leaving a false audit trail so that those examining today's events in another generation (even less) will be confounded and lead to believe things about "government" that simply are not true.

Always bear in mind that global power is inter-generational and to that end Theye must always protect Theire future generations from prying eyes so that the mundane is never able to conclusively divine and prove the means and methods of the whipmasters. The mundane will likely never be quite stupid enough that they will pose zero threat to those presuming dominion over them. It therefore behooves Themme to paint the historical pictures THEY want passed forward to their children's children's children. It is cheap insurance that provides powerful defenses. Take heed of the quote that says those who fail to study the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it. This is so very true and Theye understand this far better than the average man. It therefore behooves Themme to best ensure that the historical links be falsified to their benefit and this is at least part of the reason Theye go through these otherwise and seemingly meaningless motions. This is truer now than ever before in human history due to the nature of our technologies which, while they empower Themme in great leaps and bounds, the rest are also empowered significantly and that is ALWAYS a threat to Theire positions.

To understand how Theye operate, one must think as Theye do. Once you begin doing this, much that prior made no sense takes on a new clarity and meaning. It is all tactics in clear and sensible pursuit of the strategy of tyrants.

Amazing piece of analysis. One of the most profound posts I have read.

fr33
09-01-2013, 12:09 AM
He will vote for US military intervention in Syria if it came to a vote.

I really can't call it how Cruz will/would vote on it. I'll have to wait and see. I feel pretty certain that Rand will vote no.

enhanced_deficit
09-01-2013, 01:05 AM
I really can't call it how Cruz will/would vote on it. I'll have to wait and see. I feel pretty certain that Rand will vote no.

Think you are right, Rand will vote no. Cruz will probably votes same way McCain votes, for the intervention unless they think Obama is not going far enough.

CPUd
09-01-2013, 01:10 AM
http://i.minus.com/iVZOkLcZu80cR.gif

puppetmaster
09-01-2013, 01:20 AM
I don't think they are "selling" anything - this use of the term itself suggests that "we" have some say in what is going to happen.

This is all about massaging perception in a very subtle way because these are the actions that will be recorded and to which people will refer in later years. It is all part of maintaining the infrastructure of smoke and mirrors so that people down the line in years and decades to come will not be able to get to the truth with any ease and most definitely without any possibility of certainty. These acts taint the future by tainting the present, by leaving false perceptual trails. This is all pure artifice and theater.

Obama and his sock-masters already know what they will do and if they have determined to bomb Syria, it is going to happen regardless whether the entire population stands tall and shouts, "NO!" They are not interested in what you think or want, but they are interested in leaving a false audit trail so that those examining today's events in another generation (even less) will be confounded and lead to believe things about "government" that simply are not true.

Always bear in mind that global power is inter-generational and to that end Theye must always protect Theire future generations from prying eyes so that the mundane is never able to conclusively divine and prove the means and methods of the whipmasters. The mundane will likely never be quite stupid enough that they will pose zero threat to those presuming dominion over them. It therefore behooves Themme to paint the historical pictures THEY want passed forward to their children's children's children. It is cheap insurance that provides powerful defenses. Take heed of the quote that says those who fail to study the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it. This is so very true and Theye understand this far better than the average man. It therefore behooves Themme to best ensure that the historical links be falsified to their benefit and this is at least part of the reason Theye go through these otherwise and seemingly meaningless motions. This is truer now than ever before in human history due to the nature of our technologies which, while they empower Themme in great leaps and bounds, the rest are also empowered significantly and that is ALWAYS a threat to Theire positions.

To understand how Theye operate, one must think as Theye do. Once you begin doing this, much that prior made no sense takes on a new clarity and meaning. It is all tactics in clear and sensible pursuit of the strategy of tyrants.

And this is exactly why we must never give in and continue to spread this message of freedom as Ron Paul has stated. This is a war that will be fought over generations.
We have, and will affect change in this world.

cindy25
09-01-2013, 01:37 AM
heard Cruz several times on fox being against the war

maybe the thread author meant Rubio?

enhanced_deficit
09-01-2013, 01:50 AM
heard Cruz several times on fox being against the war

maybe the thread author meant Rubio?

Some of us don't watch MSM TV infotainment, has Cruz flip flopped since he said this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rx83YwkLAp0#t=39

“We know Assad has used these weapons, and there is good reason to suspect the al Qaida-affiliated rebels would use them as well if they could get their hands on them. This poses an intolerable threat not only to our friends in the region, but also to the United States. We need to be developing a clear, practical plan to go in, locate the weapons, secure or destroy them, and then get out. The United States should be firmly in the lead to make sure the job is done right.”- Rafael Cruz

CNN.com - 'Old Europe' hits back at Rumsfeld - Jan. 24, 2003
Jan 24, 2003 - The U.S. defence minister calls France and Germany 'old', the rest of Europe 'young' and wants a quick war with Iraq. ...

HOLLYWOOD
09-01-2013, 06:04 AM
2009 Photos John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See

http://media1.policymic.com/site/articles/61109/1_photo.jpg

http://media2.policymic.com/c3c7474c5f28473b45447608d605ae6b.jpg

enhanced_deficit
09-01-2013, 11:28 AM
2009 Photos John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See

http://media1.policymic.com/site/articles/61109/1_photo.jpg



Is that green tea in the mugs being served to Kerry?

devil21
09-02-2013, 02:12 AM
When will people realize and accept that anyone called Secretary of State is a liar and a schmuck not worth trusting as far as they can be thrown???

Kerry looks like he had a stroke recently btw.

TaftFan
09-02-2013, 08:33 AM
heard Cruz several times on fox being against the war

maybe the thread author meant Rubio?

enhanced_deficit is on a jihad against Cruz, among others on this forum.

He only supports intervention for the sake of national security, ex. if we know chemical weapons are going to be transferred to Al-Qaeda.

He has nothing in common with the neocons in both parties whatsoever and is strongly against the resolution which will be introduced on behalf of Obama and Kerry.

nbruno322
09-02-2013, 08:52 AM
enhanced_deficit is on a jihad against Cruz, among others on this forum.

He only supports intervention for the sake of national security, ex. if we know chemical weapons are going to be transferred to Al-Qaeda.

He has nothing in common with the neocons in both parties whatsoever and is strongly against the resolution which will be introduced on behalf of Obama and Kerry.

Cruz couldn't hold a candle to Rand or Ron Paul.

The moment it is politically advantageous he will morph into a neocon again. Kind of like a male version of Michelle Bachman. Cruz strike me as an unprincipled chameleon.

Peace Piper
09-02-2013, 08:56 AM
2009 Photos John Kerry Doesn't Want You to See

http://media1.policymic.com/site/articles/61109/1_photo.jpg

http://media2.policymic.com/c3c7474c5f28473b45447608d605ae6b.jpg

Kerry is a wonderful guy. I mean just another farking liar.


Kerry a Frequent Visitor with Syrian Dictator Bashar Al-Assad
Dec 21, 2012

"Well, I personally believe that -- I mean, this is my belief, okay? But President Assad has been very generous with me in terms of the discussions we have had. And when I last went to -- the last several trips to Syria -- I asked President Assad to do certain things to build the relationship with the United States and sort of show the good faith that would help us to move the process forward," said Kerry at a think tank.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/kerry-frequent-visitor-syrian-dictator-bashar-al-assad_690885.html


So after Milosovic/Kosovo (PNAC war started by lies (http://newamericancentury.org/balkans.htm)), and Iraq/ Hussein (war started by lies) and Libya/Gaddafi (war started by lies) how can anyone even begin to take these clowns seriously?


John Kerry quote from Sec of State Confirmation hearings:

"Never before has a new world order had to be assembled from so many different perceptions, or on so global a scale"
Kerry @ 1:04 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBSJvtkPICM

69360
09-02-2013, 09:14 AM
enhanced_deficit is on a jihad against Cruz, among others on this forum.

He only supports intervention for the sake of national security, ex. if we know chemical weapons are going to be transferred to Al-Qaeda.

He has nothing in common with the neocons in both parties whatsoever and is strongly against the resolution which will be introduced on behalf of Obama and Kerry.

It's getting ridiculous. Why are they focusing all their energy on Cruz who is probably 80% as good as the Pauls? It make you wonder what their real motives are.

ctiger2
09-02-2013, 09:14 AM
On a side note, is Rafael Cruz a Zionist like almost all supporters of CUFI/Pastor Hagee are?

He will vote for US military intervention in Syria if it came to a vote.

Pretty sure Cruz is a Zionist. IIRC both he and Mike Lee flew to Israel almost immediately after winning their elections.

enhanced_deficit
09-02-2013, 09:32 AM
Pretty sure Cruz is a Zionist. IIRC both he and Mike Lee flew to Israel almost immediately after winning their elections.

Emphasis mine.
Just when I started to like his Foreign Policy with high velocity interventions for national security of our closest allies and us, you had to burst the bubble. I was hoping he was just pandering heavily and did not realy believe in their ideology.