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presence
08-30-2013, 07:36 PM
Robin (http://twitter.com/biz_emom) @biz_emomWARNING: Hackers May Be Using Child Porn 2 Frame Members of Liberty Movement. PDF attachments benswann.com/using-child-po… (http://t.co/2r3z3RUMW6) #TCOT (http://topsy.com/s?q=%23TCOT) @RedNationRising (http://twitter.com/RedNationRising)



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Using Child Porn To Take Down The Liberty Movement? (Video) 1 week ago | Politics (http://benswann.com/category/politics/), Swann TV (http://benswann.com/category/swann-tv/), US (http://benswann.com/category/politics/us/) | Posted by Ben Swann

August 22, 2013


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Dan Johnson of the group P.A.N.D.A (People Against the NDAA) talks with Ben Swann about the child pornography sent to him via a Tormail account. The email, which claimed to have come from Stewart Rhodes (founder and national director of Oathkeepers), actually contained 6 PDFs with graphic child pornography.
“Our IT tech estimates it took about 8 to 9 hours to put this [email] together…something this technologically sophisticated. It was specifically designed, number one, to be found; and number two, to implicate Stewart Rhodes in sending me the email and to implicate me in having the email on my computer,” says Johnson, who spoke to Swann via Skype.


Most interestingly, Johnson received this email only a few weeks after Luke Rudkowski (We Are Change) and Madison Rupert (End The Lie) also received emails from a purported “whistleblower.” Those emails also contained child pornography.


Explains Johnson, “If I didnʼt have any IT background, I would think that deleting the file actually deletes the file. It doesnʼt really delete the file; it just deletes the markers where the file is supposed to be. So the file would still be on my computer and I wouldnʼt know it. So if I were to be raided at any point because someone were to say ʻI think Dan has child ornography on his computerʼ then someone would come in, they would open the computer, they would look at it. I would obviously have no idea it was there. They would take the computer and what would happen from there, I am not really sure. It is about 5 years in prison for each image.”


Johnson goes on to point out that in both his case and in Rudkowskiʼs case, the images were not opened or downloaded (watch the interview to understand how that happened). Since receiving the email Johnson has contacted police and shared the email. Unfortunately, the email in both cases was sent from a Tormail account, which is designed to be untraceable.



So why these four men? Why would they be targeted? Johnson attempts to answer that question here:


http://benswann.com/using-child-porn-to-take-down-the-liberty-movement-video/

KEEF
08-30-2013, 07:47 PM
I don't think they're hackers, it is just the NSA doing what I figured they would start doing... start tarnishing reputations.

samforpaul
08-30-2013, 08:12 PM
I don't remember the name, details, and fact from fiction on a previous situation. But I do remember some guy who I think was an inspector for weapons of mass destruction circa 1991 whose report differed from others and as I recall porn was planted in his US Mail that got him charged with something.

Anybody remember this? I'm picturing a 40ish man with brown hair and glasses.

enoch150
08-30-2013, 11:02 PM
I don't remember the name, details, and fact from fiction on a previous situation. But I do remember some guy who I think was an inspector for weapons of mass destruction circa 1991 whose report differed from others and as I recall porn was planted in his US Mail that got him charged with something.

Anybody remember this? I'm picturing a 40ish man with brown hair and glasses.

Scott Ritter. Skimming quickly through wikipedia:

It looks like he said the Iraqis were uncooperative with inspections in 1998, and that he was pushing for more inspections. He resigned in 1998. In 1999 he claimed the CIA was trying to infiltrate UNSCOM to gain information to use for regime change (which is what the Iraqis were complaining about, and why they were uncooperative.) If that's true, then the 2nd Iraq War wasn't solely Bush's idea. In 2001 he was twice charged with soliciting minors for sex on the internet. Both charges eventually dismissed. In 2002 he said Iraq had no WMD's to speak of, and if they did we would know it. He was charged with the same in 2010, convicted, and sentenced to 1.5 - 5.5 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter

eleganz
08-30-2013, 11:03 PM
Wow what the hell .....

samforpaul
08-31-2013, 09:07 AM
Scott Ritter. Skimming quickly through wikipedia:

It looks like he said the Iraqis were uncooperative with inspections in 1998, and that he was pushing for more inspections. He resigned in 1998. In 1999 he claimed the CIA was trying to infiltrate UNSCOM to gain information to use for regime change (which is what the Iraqis were complaining about, and why they were uncooperative.) If that's true, then the 2nd Iraq War wasn't solely Bush's idea. In 2001 he was twice charged with soliciting minors for sex on the internet. Both charges eventually dismissed. In 2002 he said Iraq had no WMD's to speak of, and if they did we would know it. He was charged with the same in 2010, convicted, and sentenced to 1.5 - 5.5 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter



Thanks, enoch.

tangent4ronpaul
08-31-2013, 09:40 AM
There is something wrong with this.

The article is dated Aug 22.

Freedom Hosting went down at the end of July or early August. TORmail went down with it.

So when did this supposedly happen? You usually hear about them right away.

-t

idiom
08-31-2013, 05:42 PM
'Hackers'. Yeah.

Not knowing how to secure a computer to the point of knowing when a file is really deleted is up there with not knowing how to use your firearms.

angelatc
08-31-2013, 06:13 PM
Scott Ritter. Skimming quickly through wikipedia:

It looks like he said the Iraqis were uncooperative with inspections in 1998, and that he was pushing for more inspections. He resigned in 1998. In 1999 he claimed the CIA was trying to infiltrate UNSCOM to gain information to use for regime change (which is what the Iraqis were complaining about, and why they were uncooperative.) If that's true, then the 2nd Iraq War wasn't solely Bush's idea. In 2001 he was twice charged with soliciting minors for sex on the internet. Both charges eventually dismissed. In 2002 he said Iraq had no WMD's to speak of, and if they did we would know it. He was charged with the same in 2010, convicted, and sentenced to 1.5 - 5.5 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter

Scott Ritter never denied the charges.

pcosmar
08-31-2013, 06:35 PM
There is something wrong with this.

The article is dated Aug 22.

Freedom Hosting went down at the end of July or early August. TORmail went down with it.

So when did this supposedly happen? You usually hear about them right away.

-t
This happened a while back,, In July I believe.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYVvuDRstDw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zislzpkpvZc

asurfaholic
09-01-2013, 04:27 AM
'Hackers'. Yeah.

Not knowing how to secure a computer to the point of knowing when a file is really deleted is up there with not knowing how to use your firearms.

This isn't a fair assessment. I have no clue how to secure my computer, and it shows - I have some sort of a google redirect virus, If I was to use google to search, it would bring up a normal looking search result page, but click a link, and it takes you to a malicious site.

I don't have the first clue how to fix it, and my computer is probably wide open.

presence
09-01-2013, 06:55 AM
This isn't a fair assessment. I have no clue how to secure my computer, and it shows - I have some sort of a google redirect virus, If I was to use google to search, it would bring up a normal looking search result page, but click a link, and it takes you to a malicious site.

I don't have the first clue how to fix it, and my computer is probably wide open.



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Peace&Freedom
09-01-2013, 06:59 AM
Scott Ritter never denied the charges.

Then how did the the first two set of charges get dismissed? Perhaps they were so bogus he didn't dignify them with a public denial? Then his accusers got more sophisticated, and/or shopped for a more compliant judge, to convict him 2010?

jdcole
09-01-2013, 01:26 PM
If you guys are worried about securing your computer, here is a good primer from the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) about just that subject. https://ssd.eff.org/

ItsTime
09-01-2013, 06:34 PM
There is something wrong with this.

The article is dated Aug 22.

Freedom Hosting went down at the end of July or early August. TORmail went down with it.

So when did this supposedly happen? You usually hear about them right away.

-t


Ben was talking back and forth with Dan Johnson long before the article and interview came out.