dannno
08-30-2013, 11:46 AM
These graphs just made it difficult to argue with a progressive, despite how much I tell them I hate Bush.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5nQCvcQ_emM/UX09OXe4oZI/AAAAAAAAZ_A/KvsCuzewxGI/s320/PrivateBushObama.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Pi3q7K4IP9E/UX0t-p6dYYI/AAAAAAAAZ-w/MWTiv628FZk/s320/PulbicBushObama.jpg
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2013/04/public-and-private-sector-payroll-jobs.html#Ao7rKcHrdyW88E6j.99
The employment recovery during Mr. Bush's first term was very sluggish, and private employment was down 946,000 jobs at the end of his first term. At the end of Mr. Bush's second term, private employment was collapsing, and there were net 665,000 jobs lost during Mr. Bush's two terms.
The recovery has been sluggish under Mr. Obama's presidency too, and there were only 1,933,000 more private sector jobs at the end of Mr. Obama's first term. A couple of months into Mr. Obama's second term, there are now 2,282,000 more private sector jobs than when he took office.
A big difference between Mr. Bush's tenure in office and Mr. Obama's presidency has been public sector employment. The public sector grew during Mr. Bush's term (up 1,748,000 jobs), but the public sector has declined since Obama took office (down 718,000 jobs). These job losses have mostly been at the state and local level, but they are still a significant drag on overall employment.
Read more at http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/201...
Repeat:
PUBLIC SECTOR UNDER BUSH - plus 1,748,000
PUBLIC SECTOR UNDER OBAMA - minus 718,000
'Public Sector' includes state and local governments and apparently most of the losses have come from state and local government... yet the facts as claimed above still show Obama increasing private sector jobs and decreasing overall public sector jobs during his term, making it difficult to make the argument that most of the job creation has been in government.
I am making the argument in return that the losses to the private sector have been reducing revenue for governments forcing them to cut, but the Federal Govt. has still grown (Sources??) and even the private sector jobs we are creating are retail jobs that are selling mostly good made from China, to whom we are in debt. So those jobs are costing us money as well and destroying the private sector and are replacing jobs that used to be able to buy houses and raise families.
I'm just curious if anybody has seen any data recently I can use to add to any of this.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5nQCvcQ_emM/UX09OXe4oZI/AAAAAAAAZ_A/KvsCuzewxGI/s320/PrivateBushObama.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Pi3q7K4IP9E/UX0t-p6dYYI/AAAAAAAAZ-w/MWTiv628FZk/s320/PulbicBushObama.jpg
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2013/04/public-and-private-sector-payroll-jobs.html#Ao7rKcHrdyW88E6j.99
The employment recovery during Mr. Bush's first term was very sluggish, and private employment was down 946,000 jobs at the end of his first term. At the end of Mr. Bush's second term, private employment was collapsing, and there were net 665,000 jobs lost during Mr. Bush's two terms.
The recovery has been sluggish under Mr. Obama's presidency too, and there were only 1,933,000 more private sector jobs at the end of Mr. Obama's first term. A couple of months into Mr. Obama's second term, there are now 2,282,000 more private sector jobs than when he took office.
A big difference between Mr. Bush's tenure in office and Mr. Obama's presidency has been public sector employment. The public sector grew during Mr. Bush's term (up 1,748,000 jobs), but the public sector has declined since Obama took office (down 718,000 jobs). These job losses have mostly been at the state and local level, but they are still a significant drag on overall employment.
Read more at http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/201...
Repeat:
PUBLIC SECTOR UNDER BUSH - plus 1,748,000
PUBLIC SECTOR UNDER OBAMA - minus 718,000
'Public Sector' includes state and local governments and apparently most of the losses have come from state and local government... yet the facts as claimed above still show Obama increasing private sector jobs and decreasing overall public sector jobs during his term, making it difficult to make the argument that most of the job creation has been in government.
I am making the argument in return that the losses to the private sector have been reducing revenue for governments forcing them to cut, but the Federal Govt. has still grown (Sources??) and even the private sector jobs we are creating are retail jobs that are selling mostly good made from China, to whom we are in debt. So those jobs are costing us money as well and destroying the private sector and are replacing jobs that used to be able to buy houses and raise families.
I'm just curious if anybody has seen any data recently I can use to add to any of this.