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DrHendricks
08-29-2013, 01:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgibngxK5T8#t=400

I hardly ever listen to standard talk radio, but someone said "you have to listen to Savage last night". It's been a really good listen. Calls out Israel for being behind our aggression in Syria. Says that we can no longer be an "Israel First" nation.

AuH20
08-29-2013, 02:01 PM
I've alway liked the good Dr. Seems that doctors are the only ones left with any type of objectivity.

Brian4Liberty
08-29-2013, 02:31 PM
Let's break down the current position of Savage. He is still an Israel firster, but the current proposals are in no way a clear plus for Israel. It could be neutral, it could make things worse. It has no benefit for the US. Thus, he has no reason to support this action.

Now Savage is using the term "Israel" as if it is a singular entity. It is not. There are a variety of factions and interests to look at it. Savage does not like communists, leftists, or "red diaper doper babies". Savage does not like crony corporatists. These are the "Israel" and US factions that want to take this action against Syria.

So we have a situation where there is no obvious benefit, and the people that Savage doesn't like are pushing for it. It's an easy call. He will oppose it.

brushfire
08-29-2013, 02:45 PM
Not quite as bad as beck, but savage has disappointed me many, many times. The positive view on this is that our message is becoming more popular every day. Ignore-laugh-fight-win.

Savage must be respected though - very entertaining. Some of rude interactions with callers have had me floored. Plus I love his nickname for Sean Hannity... "Wallbanger"

jkr
08-29-2013, 02:46 PM
i$olationi$t...

mosquitobite
08-29-2013, 02:51 PM
http://minustwentytwo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jaw-drop-will-smith.gif

Snew
08-29-2013, 02:54 PM
lol we never should have been one in the first place. -__-

Brian4Liberty
08-29-2013, 03:09 PM
Another thing to take from this is that Savage is not a neo-conservative. (Neither is Mark Levin).

compromise
08-29-2013, 03:14 PM
Another thing to take from this is that Savage is not a neo-conservative. (Neither is Mark Levin).

I'm unsure about Levin. He was for Libya and Syria.

Brian4Liberty
08-29-2013, 03:39 PM
I'm unsure about Levin. He was for Libya and Syria.

He certainly agrees with them on FP most of the time. But by strictest definitions, he's not a neo-Trot.

All neo-conservatives are Israel-firsters. All Israel-firsters are not neo-conservatives.

RickyJ
08-29-2013, 03:41 PM
Quite ironic coming from Mr. Israeli firster Michael Savage! If you believe he is sincere about this, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I will sell you real cheap.

ravedown
08-29-2013, 03:50 PM
are you kidding? Levin is about as neo-con as you can get, almost but not quite Michael Medved level. he'd bomb Iran tomorrow if someone put the button in front of him.
savage is horribly inconsistent and borderline mentally unstable. I'm not sure I'd publicly want to endorse anything he says.

RickyJ
08-29-2013, 03:51 PM
I hope no one forgets Savage's rabid hate he has shown for Muslims. The guy should not be listened to by anyone, hate oozes out of his pores.

Brian4Liberty
08-29-2013, 03:55 PM
are you kidding? Levin is about as neo-con as you can get, almost but not quite Michael Medved level. he'd bomb Iran tomorrow if someone put the button in front of him.
savage is horribly inconsistent and borderline mentally unstable. I'm not sure I'd publicly want to endorse anything he says.

What is your definition of "neo-con"?

jkr
08-29-2013, 03:56 PM
http://minustwentytwo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jaw-drop-will-smith.gif

http://minustwentytwo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jaw-drop-will-smith.gif
THAT!

ravedown
08-29-2013, 04:05 PM
What is your definition of "neo-con"?

global empiricism
Israel first agenda
authoritarian government
anti-civil liberty
pro-central bank
corporatist etc.
you know, the usual.

jmdrake
08-29-2013, 04:10 PM
http://minustwentytwo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jaw-drop-will-smith.gif

You and me both. Savage has really been coming around these last few years.

AuH20
08-29-2013, 04:17 PM
global empiricism
Israel first agenda
authoritarian government
anti-civil liberty
pro-central bank
corporatist etc.
you know, the usual.

That's not Savage though. Neocons are also pro-illegal immigration and gun grabbers.

Brian4Liberty
08-29-2013, 04:30 PM
global empiricism
Israel first agenda
authoritarian government
anti-civil liberty
pro-central bank
corporatist etc.
you know, the usual.

All of that, plus the fact that they support big government socialism. They are also not terribly interested in the US Constitution or US sovereignty. Have to keep in mind that they used to be Trotskyite, globalist communists.

Brian4Liberty
08-29-2013, 04:32 PM
Neocons are also pro-illegal immigration and gun grabbers.

Yep. The Constitution is more of a changeable guideline rather than law. The Second Amendment is open to interpretation.