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tod evans
08-29-2013, 03:22 AM
Pentagon Classifies Evangelical Christians, Catholics as “Extremists”

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/pentagon-classifies-evangelical-christians-catholics-as-extremists.html

The Department of Defense classified Catholics and Evangelical Christians as religious extremists similar to Al-Qaeda, according to training materials obtained by the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty.

The Pentagon also considered the Southern Poverty law Center’s “hate group” list a “reliable source” for determining extremism and labeled “Islamophobia” as a form of religious extremism.
The revelations come just days after Judicial Watch discovered a separate Pentagon training document that depicted the Founding Fathers as extremists and conservative organizations as hate groups.extreme
The Chaplain Alliance uncovered in more than 1,500 pages of documents obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request after a U.S. Army training instructor told a Reserve unit based in Pennsylvania that Catholicism, Evangelical Christianity, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Sunni Muslims, and the Ku Klux Klan were examples of extremism.

“The materials we obtained establish that the U.S. military violated its appropriate apolitical stance and engaged in a dishonorable mischaracterization of multiple faith groups,” said Ron Crews, executive director of the Chaplain Alliance, an organization that represents thousands of military chaplains.
The documents show an unknown number of equal opportunity officers were trained at Fort Jackson, SC, using information obtained from the SPLC.
The training material was made public after a soldier who attended the briefing alerted Chaplain Alliance.
“He considers himself an Evangelical Christian and did not appreciate being classified with terrorists,” Crews said. “There was a pervasive attitude in the presentation that anything associated with religion is an extremist.”
The soldier “produced the slides based on EO Leader’s Course Program of Instruction obtained from the Soldier Support Institute at Fort Jackson, South Carolina,” the document reads.
In addition to the slide presentation, the Reserve unit was also shown a video provided by the SPLC and Teaching Tolerance. The trainer told her superior officers she showed the video because it was part of the “EO Advisor course curriculum.”
Crews is calling on the Pentagon to stop relying on the Southern Poverty Law Center or any other group that considers mainline religious organizations to be extremist or terrorist groups.
“Men and women of faith who have served the military faithfully for centuries shouldn’t be likened to those who have regularly threatened the peace and security of the United States,” Crews said. “The materials we have received verify that the military views the Southern Poverty Law Center as a reliable source for Equal Opportunity briefings.”
The Pentagon did not return calls seeking comment. Last April, spokesman George Wright told Fox News the training briefing in Pennsylvania was an “isolated incident not condoned by the Department of the Army.”
“This slide was not produced by the Army and certainly does not reflect our policy or doctrine,” he said. “It was produced by an individual without anyone in the chain of command’s knowledge or permission.”
The Army said the slide was removed, the presenter apologized and they considered the matter closed.
“Mr. Wright’s response is accurate but incomplete,” Crews told Fox News. “Yes, the one offensive slide was deleted, but how many other EO officers continue to use the SPLC as a source for training materials?”

Natural Citizen
08-29-2013, 04:25 AM
Well. I don't know. here's how we define "Extremism"...

Extremism (represented on both sides of the political spectrum) is any ideology (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/wiki/Ideology) (particularly in politics (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/wiki/Politics) or religion (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/wiki/Religion)), considered to be far outside the mainstream attitudes of a society or to violate common moral standards (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/wiki/Morality)

Recall that In this position paper, James Parco provides compelling evidence there has been a disturbing expansion and entrenchment of Christian fundamentalism in the U.S. military, a cultural force which remains at times both tacitly and overtly endorsed by senior military leaders. Parco supports his claim by presenting a number of case studies demonstrating a clear pattern of unconstitutional religiously sectarian behavior. He then analyzes the merits of the competing philosophical perspectives on the proper role of religious expression by men and women in uniform.

Parco concludes the report with recommendations that those in power should implement immediately in order to fully protect the U.S. military’s necessarily secular foundation and the religious freedom of all who volunteer to serve.

James Parco, PhD., Lt. Col. USAF (Ret.) is an associate professor of economics and business at Colorado College. He graduated with a bachelors’ degree in economics from the U.S. Air Force Academy and was commissioned in 1991. He went on to earn an MBA from the College of William & Mary and a PhD. from the University of Arizona. After completing his doctorate, he returned to the faculty of the U.S. Air Force Academy. He has also served on the National Security Council at the White House during the Clinton Administration, as well as in a diplomatic capacity overseas with the American Embassy in Tel Aviv. Parco retired from active duty as a lieutenant colonel in 2011.

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Key Findings (http://www.centerforinquiry.net/uploads/attachments/ForGodAndCountryKeyFindings.pdf)(PDF)
Position Paper (http://www.centerforinquiry.net/uploads/attachments/For_God_and_Country_Parco.pdf) (PDF)

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tangent4ronpaul
08-29-2013, 04:43 AM
And the first group to vote in this country are mostly Evangelical Christians... actually many of the first states. This determines the direction of our elections - who has momentum, because voters are usually lemmings. So this is going to go over like a led balloon and could add a new policy plank and issue to the process.

If it gets any news coverage, that is...

-t

Scrapmo
08-29-2013, 04:47 AM
If it gets any news coverage, that is...-t


Not a chance.

Christian Liberty
08-29-2013, 09:22 AM
I think the SPLC are an extremist hate group...

oyarde
08-29-2013, 09:30 AM
Yes I am an extremist , I am extremely pissed off, I do not like being stolen from.Now those splc douchebags, they promote terror.

fisharmor
08-29-2013, 09:40 AM
The training material was made public after a soldier who attended the briefing alerted Chaplain Alliance.
“He considers himself an Evangelical Christian and did not appreciate being classified with terrorists,” Crews said. “There was a pervasive attitude in the presentation that anything associated with religion is an extremist.”

Time for you to learn, grunt: your true master is jealous of your other master.

Though I suppose it's a small consolation to know that when their god demands that they herd their neighbors into the boxcars, some of them might "not appreciate" it based on what some other god said.

Bern
08-29-2013, 10:01 AM
SPLC sucks

pcosmar
08-29-2013, 11:21 AM
This does not surprise me at all


And he opened his mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, that is, those who dwell in heaven. It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him.


If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. "If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you.…

donnay
08-29-2013, 11:24 AM
That's funny on my Christian rooster roster of extremist, I have SPLC at number 2.


ETA:

Ha! Ha! my rooster! I am having a bad day!

Christian Liberty
08-29-2013, 11:25 AM
Who's #1?

cajuncocoa
08-29-2013, 11:26 AM
That's funny on my Christian rooster of extremist, I have SPLC at number 2.

I must know who your number one is. :)

oyarde
08-29-2013, 11:39 AM
That's funny on my Christian rooster of extremist, I have SPLC at number 2.

I ave them near the top of my shit list as well , since they have me listed , more than once .....

oyarde
08-29-2013, 11:41 AM
I may even give them some sort of honorable mention in my manifesto......lol,fuck them.

donnay
08-29-2013, 12:20 PM
Who's #1?

Factions within our hijacked government--alphabet agencies!

bunklocoempire
08-29-2013, 01:39 PM
I'm but a stranger here, heaven is my home.

SPLC? Christians are trouble to the state? Where have I heard that before...

See ya at the coliseum fuck-o.:)

Tywysog Cymru
08-29-2013, 03:06 PM
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/splc/index.html


SPLC's lists individuals such as Fox News commentators Glenn Beck and Judge Andrew Napolitano; US Representatives Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann; journalists such as WorldNetDaily editor Joseph Farah and Accuracy in Media's Cliff Kincaid; activists such as Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, attorney Orly Taitz, and many others including MassResistance.

In particular, the Tea Party movement has earned SPLC's strong wrath, which they attempt to portray as a possible terrorist threat.

SPLC also targets conservative and religious groups across America, including pro-family groups, Christian groups, anti-illegal immigration groups, and pro-life groups. The most prominent anti-illegal immigration group, Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) is on the SPLC's "hate group" list.
Also included are Traditional Values Coalition, Illinois Family Institute, Abiding Truth Ministries, Americans for Truth, and many others. When questioned, the SPLC gives criteria that are so broad that just about any group could make the list...

One of their particularly odious tactics is to publish lists of Nazi, Ku Klux Klan, and white supremacist groups (most of which may not actually exist) and insert among those the names of conservative and religious groups, for a psychological effect of "guilt by association." Then SPLC notifies news agencies of the "lists" of their area.
Thus, the SPLC itself has become a major purveyor of hate in America. It's clear that SPLC's true agenda is to stop political expression and debate that it doesn't like.



The Liberty movement also needs to make sure it doesn't alienate social Conservatives, as the neocons will sell them out (and already are beginning to), at the earliest opportunity.

DamianTV
08-29-2013, 03:26 PM
George W. Bush is now officially an Extremist?

jmdrake
08-29-2013, 03:29 PM
I wonder what will happen when Obama supporters, many of whom are Christian, finally wake up and realize how badly they've been had? Then again, many of the Bush supporters never woke up. :(

jmdrake
08-29-2013, 03:32 PM
George W. Bush is now officially an Extremist?

When did George W. Bush officially become a Christian?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jJO3Jas8Y4U/T2JDgGM96jI/AAAAAAAAEHc/IrpDphzSQTY/s1600/bushStepsOnFlag.jpg

http://www.cephasministry.com/nwo_bush_goes_to_shinto_worship.html

susano
08-29-2013, 04:18 PM
I'm certain that MIAC report was also based upon whatever the SPLC told them to print. The big issue is why is the SPLC in an advisory role to so many govt agencies? I believe this started with SPLC's role in the Oklahoma City bombing. They were running provocateurs:


"SPLC Morris Dees linked to the Oklahoma City Bombing"
Sun Jan 11 15:34:18 2004
64.140.158.65

----- Original Message -----
From: hengist - hengist@comcast.net
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 3:56 AM
Subject: "SPLC Morris Dees linked to the Oklahoma City Bombing"

The potentially explosive contents of the teletype, among
other things, exposes an informant operation being conducted
by nationally known civil rights lawyer Morris Dees through
his organization the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
Exposed for the first time, the FBI acknowledged the
SPLC was engaged in an undercover role where they
monitored subjects for the FBI believed to be linked to
executed bomber Timothy McVeigh, the white supremacist
compound at Elohim City and the mysterious German
national Andreas Carl Strassmeir. “If I told you what
we were doing there, I would have to kill you,” Dees
replied. - (J. Orlin Grabbe link)
http://mccurtain.com/deespart3.htm

The potentially explosive contents of the teletype, among other things, exposes an informant operation being conducted by nationally known civil rights lawyer Morris Dees through his organization the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).

Exposed for the first time, the FBI acknowledged the SPLC was engaged in an undercover role where they monitored subjects for the FBI believed to be linked to executed bomber Timothy McVeigh, the white supremacist compound at Elohim City and the mysterious German national Andreas Carl Strassmeir.


Also disclosed for the first time are references by the FBI director to an informant working for the Birmingham, Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), headed by civil right’s attorney Morris Dees and who was present at Elohim City in the critical hours leading up to the bombing in Oklahoma City.


Referring to a telephone call on April 17, 1995 (alleged to have been from McVeigh), the memo states: “(Name redacted) telephone call from (name redacted) on or about 4/17/95, two days prior to the OKBOMB attack, when (name redacted) of the SPLC, was in the white supremacist compound at (redacted), Oklahoma, notes the director. (Emphasis added)

References to an informant working for the SPLC at Elohim City on the eve of the Oklahoma City bombing raises serious questions as to what the SPLC might know about McVeigh’s activities during the final hours before the fuse was lit in Oklahoma City – but which the SPLC has failed to disclose publicly.

Questioned during a press conference at Southeastern Oklahoma State University in Durant recently, Dees confirmed someone from his organization was inside the white supremacist compound at Elohim City on April 17, 1995.

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-11-04/discussion.cgi.29.html


The SPLC is a communist (mainly Jewish) terrorist organization working to destroy the constitution and they need to exposed and taken down.

DamianTV
08-29-2013, 04:27 PM
Yes I am an extremist , I am extremely pissed off, I do not like being stolen from.Now those splc douchebags, they promote terror.

I never understood what is EXTREME about behaving MODERATELY?