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Peace Piper
08-25-2013, 05:24 AM
US 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria, blame it on Assad govt': Report
By ANI | ANI – Wed 30 Jan, 2013
http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-045648224.html


London, Jan 30 (ANI): The Obama administration gave green signal to a chemical weapons attack plan in Syria that could be blamed on President Bashar al Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country, leaked documents have shown.

A new report, that contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence, showed a scheme 'approved by Washington'.

As per the scheme 'Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons,' the Daily Mail reports.

Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people.

According to Infowars.com, the December 25 email was sent from Britam's Business Development Director David Goulding to company founder Philip Doughty.

The emails were released by a Malaysian hacker who also obtained senior executives resumes and copies of passports via an unprotected company server, according to Cyber War News.

According to the paper, the U.S. State Department has declined to comment on the matter. (ANI)



For how long will this link work?

http://www.thecommentator.com/system/articles/inner_pictures/000/003/892/thumb/Syrian_Jihad.jpg?1372745385

Here is a more complete report from Infowars, with links to the hacked email and further analysis


Hacked Emails Reveal ‘Washington-Approved’ Plan to Stage Chemical Weapons Attack in Syria
Paul Joseph Watson Infowars.com January 28, 2013
http://www.infowars.com/hack-reveals-washington-approved-plan-to-stage-chemical-weapons-attack-in-syria/


UPDATE: Britam has admitted that it was hacked but denied that the emails released by the hacker were genuine. Click here (http://ruvr.co.uk/2013_01_30/Britam-security-hack/) for a statement by a Britam spokesman.

Alleged hacked emails from defense contractor Britam reveal a plan “approved by Washington” and funded by Qatar to stage a chemical weapons attack in Syria and blame it on the Assad regime, fulfilling what the Obama administration has made clear is a “red line” that would mandate US military intervention.

The leaked emails, obtained by a hacker in Germany, feature an exchange (click here for screenshot (http://static.prisonplanet.com/p/images/january2013/280113email.png)) between Britam Defence’s Business Development Director David Goulding and the company’s founder Philip Doughty;



Phil

We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.

We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.

Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?

Kind regards
David


The fact that the plan involves delivering a CW (chemical weapon) that is “similar to those Assad should have,” clearly suggests that the idea is to stage a false flag chemical weapons attack that could be blamed on Assad by Gulf states like Qatar and NATO powers.

If the claim that such as plot was “approved by Washington” can be verified, then the Obama administration is complicit in a war crime.

According to Cyber War News, (http://www.cyberwarnews.info/reports/a-look-into-the-britam-defence-data-leak-files/) which details the process of how the emails were hacked and includes screenshots of the leaked documents, the hack also uncovered, “extremely personal information,” including copies of passports of Britam employees, some of whom appeared to be mercenaries.

A full list of all the hacked documents can be found here (Edit:broken link). One software systems administrator who analyzed the ‘header’ details from the email in question concluded, “I have to admit that the email does indeed look genuine (http://redhotrussia.com/britam-defense-hacked-russia-syria/)….all these facts check out. So with Mythbusters objectivity I have to call this one plausible.”

Online business profiles confirm that both David Goulding and Philip Doughty work for Britam Defence.

Last year, reports began to circulate that that US-backed rebel fighters in Syria had been given gas masks and were willing to stage a chemical weapons attack which would then be blamed on the Assad regime to grease the skids for NATO military intervention.

Soon after in August, President Barack Obama warned that the use or even transportation of chemical weapons by the Assad regime would represent a “red line” that would precipitate military intervention. French President Francois Hollande followed suit, stating that the use of such weapons “Would be a legitimate reason for direct intervention.”

At around the same time, a source told Syrian news channel Addounia that a Saudi company had fitted 1400 ambulance vehicles with anti-gas & anti-chemical filtering systems at a cost of $97,000 dollars each, in preparation for a chemical weapons attack carried out by FSA rebels using mortar rounds. A further 400 vehicles were prepared as troop carriers.

The attack would be blamed on the Syrian Army and exploited as an excuse for a military assault. A March 2012 Brookings Institution report entitled Saving Syria: Assessing Options For Regime Change outlined this very scenario – where a manufactured humanitarian crisis would be cited as justification for an attack.

Yesterday, Israel’s vice premier Silvan Shalom told reporters (http://whtc.com/news/articles/2013/jan/27/israel-vows-syria-strike-at-any-sign-of-chemical-arms-transfer/) that if Syrian rebels obtained chemical weapons from stockpiles belonging to the Assad regime, such a development would force Israel to resort to “preventive operations,” in other words – a military strike on Syria.

In December, a shocking video emerged of Syrian rebels testing what appeared to be a form of nerve gas on rabbits, bolstering claims that the rebels had already obtained chemical weapons.

As Tony Cartalucci also highlights, “Mention of acquiring chemical weapons from Libya is particularly troubling. Libya’s arsenal had fallen into the hands of sectarian extremists with NATO assistance in 2011 in the culmination of efforts to overthrow the North African nation . Since then, Libya’s militants led by commanders of Al Qaeda’s Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) have armed sectarian extremists across the Arab World, from as far West as Mali, to as far East as Syria.”

Last month, 29 different US-backed Syrian opposition groups pledged their allegiance to Al Nusra, an Al-Qaeda-affiliated group which, as the New York Times reported, “killed numerous American troops in Iraq.

Numerous reports confirm that Al Nusra is the leading front line fighting force in Syria and is commanding other rebel groups. Given their prominent role, allied with the fact that the terror group has been responsible for numerous bloody attacks in Syria, the notion that the Obama administration would approve a plot that could see chemical weapons fall into the hands of Al-Qaeda terrorists could represent a foreign policy scandal even bigger than Benghazi-Gate.

In a related story, the Syrian Electronic Army, a separate hacktivist group, continues to release hacked files and emails from numerous sensitive foreign ministry and military websites belonging to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey, including emails sent between these countries.


Further analysis:

The Syria ‘Chemical Weapons’ Media Hype: Pushing for Military Intervention
By Patrick Henningsen Global Research, August 24, 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-syria-chemical-weapons-media-hype-pushing-for-military-intervention/5346834


Yesterday’s report of an alleged ‘chemical weapon’ attack near Damascus has prompted the US and UK media machines to spin into overdrive in the push for a military intervention and regime change in Syria.

http://21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1-Chemical-weapons-Syria-Mirror-headline.jpg

Washington’s official response is predictable by now: “The White House is ‘deeply concerned’ about reports that chemical weapons were used by Syria’s government against civilians”.

In the UK, the mainstream media has put on a full-court press, clearly delivering a guilty verdict even before any claims can be independently verified, a coordinated trial-by-media which looks to be designed to coax a majority public support for either a direct supply of arms to the confab of ‘rebel’ insurgencies in Syria....
MORE
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-syria-chemical-weapons-media-hype-pushing-for-military-intervention/5346834


REPORT: The CIA Has Been Secretly Training Syrian Rebels For Months
http://www.businessinsider.com/cia-secret-training-syrian-rebels-2013-6


The CIA and US special operations forces have been training Syrian rebels for months, since long before President Barack Obama announced plans to arm the opposition, the Los Angeles Times reported Friday...more

Anyone that thinks the present US government wouldn't gas children should search "drone killing children"
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=drone%20killing%20children&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

http://www.fourwinds10.net/resources/uploads/images/1717-colin-powell-un-vial-020503.jpg

eduardo89
08-25-2013, 05:32 AM
US wants Assad out so they can install some pro-Israel puppet.

IPSecure
08-25-2013, 05:51 AM
Am wondering if the Benghazi fiasco is related to the gas...

orenbus
08-25-2013, 06:47 AM
I liked this reply on the yahoo page:


You had me up until 'According to Infowars'. That's like citing The Onion as a source.

jclay2
08-25-2013, 08:47 AM
I liked this reply on the yahoo page:

That is pretty funny, because a majority of infowars "shock" material is sourced from mainstream news articles. Don't believe me, go and actually read their website. Open your mind and you will be surprised what "crazy" people can teach you.

jjdoyle
08-25-2013, 12:02 PM
That is pretty funny, because a majority of infowars "shock" material is sourced from mainstream news articles. Don't believe me, go and actually read their website. Open your mind and you will be surprised what "crazy" people can teach you.

Which is exactly the problem with the site. It's no different than Fox News, CNN, or anything else these days really. Half-reporting stories, and making mountains where there isn't even a molehill. Having a flamed out titles, just to get hits.

pcosmar
08-25-2013, 12:09 PM
US wants Assad out so they can install some pro-Israel puppet.

Question,, what happens to all the (well armed) Israel hating Mercs once that happens?

pcosmar
08-25-2013, 12:33 PM
I liked this reply on the yahoo page:

An obvious idiot.
Infowars is only repeating other sites on this one.

They did break the MIAC story though..

which was also called a hoax by the usual suspects here.

kcchiefs6465
08-25-2013, 12:34 PM
An obvious idiot.
Infowars is only repeating other sites on this one.

They did break the MIAC story though..

which was also called a hoax by the usual suspects here.
Not to mention the story of the DHS buying billions of rounds of ammunition.

Which the MSM conveniently gave small coverage to months down the road.

Lucille
08-25-2013, 12:34 PM
"Military Intervention In Syria", US Training "Rebels" Since 2011 And The Complete Grand Plan - The March 2012 Leak
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-25/military-intervention-syria-us-training-rebels-2011-and-complete-grand-plan-march-20


For all those still shocked by the "developing events" in Syria, here is the full rundown as it was orchestrated back in 2011, and as it was released in March 2012 by Wikileaks...

FSP-Rebel
08-25-2013, 12:51 PM
https://twitter.com/8Atlas2/status/371706181569347584

FSP-Rebel
08-25-2013, 12:55 PM
https://twitter.com/8Atlas2/status/371707203964522496

FSP-Rebel
08-25-2013, 12:57 PM
https://twitter.com/8Atlas2/status/371707823610011648

enhanced_deficit
08-25-2013, 12:58 PM
US 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria, blame it on Assad govt': Report
By ANI | ANI – Wed 30 Jan, 2013
http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-045648224.html



US wants Assad out so they can install some pro-Israel puppet.

If this is another false flag plot, who is the teacher and who is the student here? US or Israel.





Lavon Affair (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/url?q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair&sa=U&ei=IgATUrnRFqOc2AWLtYCYBA&ved=0CB8QFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHtyDxh7_UTNLirGbVUUYXspoHglw)

The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1]a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned civilian targets, cinema, library and American educational center. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone
Context of 'July 1954: Israel Commits Bombing Attacks in Egypt ... (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/url?q=http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp%3Fitem%3Dwestern_support_for_islamic_m ilitancy_2026&sa=U&ei=IgATUrnRFqOc2AWLtYCYBA&ved=0CCMQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNFnp6jp9E1dMp7x-ztE3U33U9b_vg)
www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support (http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support)...
Bombs explode in British and American cultural centers and libraries, and in post offices in Alexandria and Cairo. The campaign ends when a bomb explodes ...

FSP-Rebel
08-25-2013, 01:00 PM
https://twitter.com/8Atlas2/status/371708600692924416

FSP-Rebel
08-25-2013, 01:03 PM
https://twitter.com/8Atlas2/status/371709226998956032

MRK
08-25-2013, 01:13 PM
An obvious idiot.
Infowars is only repeating other sites on this one.

They did break the MIAC story though..

which was also called a hoax by the usual suspects here.

What's the MIAC story?

kcchiefs6465
08-25-2013, 01:32 PM
What's the MIAC story?
Ron Paul supporters being labeled terrorists by the Missouri State Police.

If you search for it here you should be able to find it. The site responded by creating a report that labeled the Missouri State Police terrorists that was pretty epic. Hopefully someone finds it and can bump the thread for you.

On my way to the library, will look for it when I get back if someone hasn't posted it.

MRK
08-25-2013, 01:47 PM
Ron Paul supporters being labeled terrorists by the Missouri State Police.

If you search for it here you should be able to find it. The site responded by creating a report that labeled the Missouri State Police terrorists that was pretty epic. Hopefully someone finds it and can bump the thread for you.

On my way to the library, will look for it when I get back if someone hasn't posted it.

Ah yes, I remember that story now.

Acronyms on the other hand are a little tougher for me :)

Thanks

pcosmar
08-25-2013, 01:55 PM
What's the MIAC story?

http://constitution.org/abus/le/miac-strategic-report.pdf

Infowars broke the story.
http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin500.htm

It was initially denied,, then it was verified.. and then it was condemned (publicly and quietly) However,, Fusion Centers continue in every state.
And more such shit was found from other states.

puppetmaster
08-25-2013, 03:06 PM
Am wondering if the Benghazi fiasco is related to the gas...


very well colud be

angelatc
08-25-2013, 03:44 PM
This "leak" was entirely fabricated, with the only source being Infowars. But it's on the front page of RPF. Dear God.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/article-2311199/Britam-Defence-David-Goulding-Philip-Doughty.html


An article on 29 January reported allegations on the internet that the US Government had backed a plot to launch a chemicals weapons attack in Syria and blame it on the Assad regime.

The reports made reference to an email said to have been from David Goulding, the Business Development Director of Britam Defence, to company founder, Philip Doughty. The email had been published on the internet after Britam’s computer system was illegally hacked in Singapore. It referred to a proposal that Britam would deliver chemical weapons to Syria for enormous financial reward and suggested that the directors were willing to consider the illegal proposal.

We now accept that email was fabricated and acknowledge there is no truth in any suggestion that Britam or its directors were willing to consider taking part in such a plot, which may have led to an atrocity.

We apologise to each of them and have agreed to pay substantial damages.

susano
08-25-2013, 04:16 PM
Am wondering if the Benghazi fiasco is related to the gas...

Around the time that the Britam email was released a Youtube was also posted that showed the terrorists with canisters of chemical weapons, with which they experimented and killed rabbit. Some of the canisters had Turkish writing on them.

ETA: Erdogan is Muslim Brotherhood.

susano
08-25-2013, 04:19 PM
This "leak" was entirely fabricated, with the only source being Infowars. But it's on the front page of RPF. Dear God.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/article-2311199/Britam-Defence-David-Goulding-Philip-Doughty.html

The Daily Fail is lying. Big surprise from a country pimping NWO/NATO intervention and a British paper covering for British mercenaries.

dillo
08-25-2013, 04:27 PM
US wants Assad out so they can install some pro-Israel puppet.

Assad is basically as pro israel that you could ever realistically get in Syria

angelatc
08-25-2013, 04:30 PM
The Daily Fail is lying. Big surprise from a country pimping NWO/NATO intervention and a British paper covering for British mercenaries.


Congratulations Bryan - the inmates are running your asylum.

libertyjam
08-25-2013, 04:36 PM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com//images/section/movies/amg/dvd/cov150/drt100/t105/t10520js51z.jpg

pcosmar
08-25-2013, 04:44 PM
This "leak" was entirely fabricated, with the only source being Infowars. But it's on the front page of RPF. Dear God.



The source was not Infowars.
The source was a German Hacker and was posted to the web.

http://www.cyberwarnews.info/reports/a-look-into-the-britam-defence-data-leak-files/

susano
08-25-2013, 04:52 PM
A few days ago we did a report that a British based defence company, Britam Defence had been leaked and confidential files had been published online.

Since then i have had time to start going over all the files and put together a basic draft of what is in there, who has been effected and any other important information.

So here it is:
Interesting Information

Skip this to the bottom if you wish to know about single file/folder contents but its good to read it all to properly understand everything.

After spending some time going over this stuff i have found the only folder really needed was arch33 which contains all leaked data and gives better insight in to the operations and company’s Britam is working with.

The emails in this leak and files and information mainly trace back to two Britam defence administration, one of which is the founder and dynamic director, Philip doughty and his Business Development Director David Goulding.

Extremely personal information such as a self complied C.V, copy’s of passports and more have been leaked from David and Philip as well as emails and other plans.

From a lot of the documents its very clear that britam is working closely and even offering types of training programs to the National Saudi Gaurd and some of its internal departments and specialist groups.

Company’s that have contracts with Britam range from a couple of thousand up to Millions of dollors and have been on going for some time now.

[Show as slideshow]

http://www.cyberwarnews.info/reports/a-look-into-the-britam-defence-data-leak-files/

susano
08-25-2013, 04:53 PM
The source was not Infowars.
The source was a German Hacker and was posted to the web.

http://www.cyberwarnews.info/reports/a-look-into-the-britam-defence-data-leak-files/

Oh, snap! Took me a few minutes to dig up that link.

angelatc
08-25-2013, 05:01 PM
So much for the geniuses at CyberWarNews, I guess.



For its part, Britam says it can prove that the e-mail about Syria is a fake, because, it says, two of the e-mails that are claimed to have been hacked from the server have the same unique message I.D. They say, that shows that copying and pasting of e-mail data has taken place. The company says it’s reported the hacking attack to U.K. police. Rick Ferguson is a Director of Security Research at Cyber Security Firm, Trend Micro. He says that in theory an e-mail server would issue different I.D. numbers to different e-mails.


It’s true that e-mail I.D.s are unique, they’re sequential and if they’re generated by the same server, then no two e-mails should have the same I.D. That’s absolutely true. And if they’re both generated by the same server and have the same e-mail I.D., it’d prove that one of them is not legit.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/

Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/

(http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/)


Even REDDIT pulled it after this statement. But they're lying too, I suppose.

Anyway, it's off the front page now, so I'm satisfied. ALthough it should be banished to Hot Topics with all the other unsubstantiated conspiracy noise, that's apparently too much to ask these days.

pcosmar
08-25-2013, 05:18 PM
So much for the geniuses at CyberWarNews, I guess.


Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/

(http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/)


Even REDDIT pulled it after this statement. But they're lying too, I suppose.

Anyway, it's off the front page now, so I'm satisfied. ALthough it should be banished to Hot Topics with all the other unsubstantiated conspiracy noise, that's apparently too much to ask these days.

I read that,,
I was pointing out that it was NOT sourced by Infowars. They just reported it at the time.
That time was last January.

Since then Turkey and Syria have busted "rebels"(Terrorists) with Chemical Weapons..

And the US and Israel have been hyping up the story of Assad using them.. (he has been wining with conventional war,, despite interference)

Place your bets as to who is really lying.

Peace Piper
08-25-2013, 05:26 PM
So much for the geniuses at CyberWarNews, I guess.

Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/

Even REDDIT pulled it after this statement. But they're lying too, I suppose.

Anyway, it's off the front page now, so I'm satisfied. ALthough it should be banished to Hot Topics with all the other unsubstantiated conspiracy noise, that's apparently too much to ask these days.

People might find the Reddit thread interesting. They haven't "pulled it", it's right here:


REMOVED: Bullshit Britam defence hacked, confidential documents leaked, site
offline- A quick look into the files shows shocking plans for chemical warfare attacks where they have planned to lure victims to kill zones.

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1794vf/britam_defence_hacked_confidential_documents/



That Reddit thread is fascinating, it's like a ping pong game. Real? Unreal? Fake? BS? Kind of like listening to the press releases from the present administration.

Then there's this:


Britam Defence, David Goulding and Philip Doughty
PUBLISHED: 12:59 EST, 18 April 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/article-2311199/Britam-Defence-David-Goulding-Philip-Doughty.html

An article on 29 January reported allegations on the internet that the US Government had backed a plot to launch a chemicals weapons attack in Syria and blame it on the Assad regime.
The reports made reference to an email said to have been from David Goulding, the Business Development Director of Britam Defence, to company founder, Philip Doughty. The email had been published on the internet after Britam’s computer system was illegally hacked in Singapore. It referred to a proposal that Britam would deliver chemical weapons to Syria for enormous financial reward and suggested that the directors were willing to consider the illegal proposal.
We now accept that email was fabricated and acknowledge there is no truth in any suggestion that Britam or its directors were willing to consider taking part in such a plot, which may have led to an atrocity.
We apologise to each of them and have agreed to pay substantial damages.



Do you have a problem with "Free Speech" or just some "Free Speech"?

Clearly you don't want some things discussed. Why is that? No one forces you to click any link. Your desire to censor threads that dare to question things is disturbing.

The Government lies. That's a fact. So how do you know when to believe them and when not to believe?

Please share.

You won't shut me up. Ever. And I am not alone.

BlackTerrel
08-25-2013, 05:28 PM
So much for the geniuses at CyberWarNews, I guess.


Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/

(http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/)


Even REDDIT pulled it after this statement. But they're lying too, I suppose.

Anyway, it's off the front page now, so I'm satisfied. ALthough it should be banished to Hot Topics with all the other unsubstantiated conspiracy noise, that's apparently too much to ask these days.

Expect no respect for actually taking the time to do the research and come to your own conclusion.

BlackTerrel
08-25-2013, 05:30 PM
People might find the Reddit thread interesting. They haven't "pulled it", it's right here:


REMOVED: Bullshit Britam defence hacked, confidential documents leaked, site
offline- A quick look into the files shows shocking plans for chemical warfare attacks where they have planned to lure victims to kill zones.

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1794vf/britam_defence_hacked_confidential_documents/



That Reddit thread is fascinating, it's like a ping pong game. Real? Unreal? Fake? BS? Kind of like listening to the press releases from the present administration.

Then there's this:


Britam Defence, David Goulding and Philip Doughty
PUBLISHED: 12:59 EST, 18 April 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/article-2311199/Britam-Defence-David-Goulding-Philip-Doughty.html

An article on 29 January reported allegations on the internet that the US Government had backed a plot to launch a chemicals weapons attack in Syria and blame it on the Assad regime.
The reports made reference to an email said to have been from David Goulding, the Business Development Director of Britam Defence, to company founder, Philip Doughty. The email had been published on the internet after Britam’s computer system was illegally hacked in Singapore. It referred to a proposal that Britam would deliver chemical weapons to Syria for enormous financial reward and suggested that the directors were willing to consider the illegal proposal.
We now accept that email was fabricated and acknowledge there is no truth in any suggestion that Britam or its directors were willing to consider taking part in such a plot, which may have led to an atrocity.
We apologise to each of them and have agreed to pay substantial damages.



Do you have a problem with "Free Speech" or just some "Free Speech"?

Clearly you don't want some things discussed. Why is that? No one forces you to click any link. Your desire to censor threads that dare to question things is disturbing.

The Government lies. That's a fact. So how do you know when to believe them and when not to believe?

Please share.

You won't shut me up. Ever. And I am not alone.

Case in point to my post above.

I haven't seen any indication that Angel is opposed to free speech. She just has a different opinion than you and has come to that opinion through a combination of research and common sense.

On the other side I haven't seen much critical thinking other than "I really want to believe it... so I'm just going to believe it".

BlackTerrel
08-25-2013, 05:30 PM
People might find the Reddit thread interesting. They haven't "pulled it", it's right here:


REMOVED: Bullshit Britam defence hacked, confidential documents leaked, site
offline- A quick look into the files shows shocking plans for chemical warfare attacks where they have planned to lure victims to kill zones.

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1794vf/britam_defence_hacked_confidential_documents/



That Reddit thread is fascinating, it's like a ping pong game. Real? Unreal? Fake? BS? Kind of like listening to the press releases from the present administration.

Then there's this:


Britam Defence, David Goulding and Philip Doughty
PUBLISHED: 12:59 EST, 18 April 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/article-2311199/Britam-Defence-David-Goulding-Philip-Doughty.html

An article on 29 January reported allegations on the internet that the US Government had backed a plot to launch a chemicals weapons attack in Syria and blame it on the Assad regime.
The reports made reference to an email said to have been from David Goulding, the Business Development Director of Britam Defence, to company founder, Philip Doughty. The email had been published on the internet after Britam’s computer system was illegally hacked in Singapore. It referred to a proposal that Britam would deliver chemical weapons to Syria for enormous financial reward and suggested that the directors were willing to consider the illegal proposal.
We now accept that email was fabricated and acknowledge there is no truth in any suggestion that Britam or its directors were willing to consider taking part in such a plot, which may have led to an atrocity.
We apologise to each of them and have agreed to pay substantial damages.



Do you have a problem with "Free Speech" or just some "Free Speech"?

Clearly you don't want some things discussed. Why is that? No one forces you to click any link. Your desire to censor threads that dare to question things is disturbing.

The Government lies. That's a fact. So how do you know when to believe them and when not to believe?

Please share.

You won't shut me up. Ever. And I am not alone.

Case in point to my post above.

I haven't seen any indication that Angel is opposed to free speech. She just has a different opinion than you and has come to that opinion through a combination of research and common sense.

On the other side I haven't seen much critical thinking other than "I really want to believe it... so I'm just going to believe it".

susano
08-25-2013, 05:37 PM
'Poison Gas Bombs' In Syria Could Force US Intervention

Dec. 24, 2012, 5:21 AM

http://www.businessinsider.com/assad-reportedly-using-chemical-weapons-homs-syria-rebels-2012-12


^^Previous attempt to get the NATO show on the road.

susano
08-25-2013, 05:41 PM
People might find the Reddit thread interesting. They haven't "pulled it", it's right here:


REMOVED: Bullshit Britam defence hacked, confidential documents leaked, site
offline- A quick look into the files shows shocking plans for chemical warfare attacks where they have planned to lure victims to kill zones.

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1794vf/britam_defence_hacked_confidential_documents/



That Reddit thread is fascinating, it's like a ping pong game. Real? Unreal? Fake? BS? Kind of like listening to the press releases from the present administration.

Then there's this:


Britam Defence, David Goulding and Philip Doughty
PUBLISHED: 12:59 EST, 18 April 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/article-2311199/Britam-Defence-David-Goulding-Philip-Doughty.html

An article on 29 January reported allegations on the internet that the US Government had backed a plot to launch a chemicals weapons attack in Syria and blame it on the Assad regime.
The reports made reference to an email said to have been from David Goulding, the Business Development Director of Britam Defence, to company founder, Philip Doughty. The email had been published on the internet after Britam’s computer system was illegally hacked in Singapore. It referred to a proposal that Britam would deliver chemical weapons to Syria for enormous financial reward and suggested that the directors were willing to consider the illegal proposal.
We now accept that email was fabricated and acknowledge there is no truth in any suggestion that Britam or its directors were willing to consider taking part in such a plot, which may have led to an atrocity.
We apologise to each of them and have agreed to pay substantial damages.



Do you have a problem with "Free Speech" or just some "Free Speech"?

Clearly you don't want some things discussed. Why is that? No one forces you to click any link. Your desire to censor threads that dare to question things is disturbing.

The Government lies. That's a fact. So how do you know when to believe them and when not to believe?

Please share.

You won't shut me up. Ever. And I am not alone.



Post of interest from the reddit thread:

Removed comments from Mods:

http://i.imgur.com/TPxM9mr.png

http://i.imgur.com/3ImtpAI.png

http://i.imgur.com/9Jg3nvz.png

Yes, there is something really fishy going on.

EDIT: More telling analysis, deleted without reason by "someone":

http://i.imgur.com/x6cwI1o.png

On the last image, here are the links:

http://www.infosniper.net/index.php?ip_address=81.156.163.12&map_source=1&overview_map=1&lang=1&map_type=1&zoom_level=7

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=15950299&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=uL8P&locale=en_US&srchid=2699ff42-9574-4c19-a5c2-cafd484f03d4-0&srchindex=3&srchtotal=22&goback=%2Efps_PBCK_*1_Dave_Goulding_*1_*1_*1_*1_*2 _*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_*1_*51_*1_*51_true_*1_gb% 3A0_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_* 2_*2_*2_*2&pvs=ps&trk=pp_profile_photo_link



reddit is infamous for censorship, deleting posts and HBGary type sock puppets

Carson
08-25-2013, 10:18 PM
It seems to me every amnesty smells the same. Every time they progress through the same line of lies.

These weapons of mass destruction stories always seem to smell the same.

I imagine there are many here are finding it pointless to point it out or bring it up and are remaining silent.

If we can't control our own government we are in a sorry state of affairs. Maybe serious state of affairs is a better choice of words.


Sometimes a story blows in and no matter how far out there, or how much the Naysayers say nay, it rings of the truth. Rings and rings loudly.

pcosmar
08-26-2013, 02:42 PM
Moar war bump

CPUd
08-26-2013, 03:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/6kSLT5v.gif

enhanced_deficit
08-26-2013, 03:21 PM
This can go here also. Lemon squeezy easy linky.


Kerry accuses Syria of using chemical agents and destroying evidence
NBCNews.com (blog)-2 hours ago
Secretary of State John Kerry says the use of chemical weapons in Syria is "undeniable" and that the U.S. is considering how to respond.


Did SWC Kerry bring any props with him to press conf today that was lazily aimed to set ground work for attacking Syria, like the ones used before revenge attack on Iraq's non-existent Chemical weapons sites by this notorious douchebag?


http://www.internetweekly.org/images/powell_bs.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=collin+powell+iiraq+un&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=w2flI5OlB2SzhM&tbnid=d9ZBrrCaoNgnOM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.internetweekly.org%2Fphoto_ca rtoons%2Fcartoon_bush_wmd.html&ei=PbYbUrv2LvTC2gX1uoHIDA&bvm=bv.51156542,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNHl36mrGvFFIvvK0bDlXd7C-LMHiQ&ust=1377633883201151)

http://www.infoimagination.org/politics/features/niger/powell_un_2.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=collin+powell+iiraq+un&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=mw3fwI-xOmTwGM&tbnid=9IDaNr-HWa_JnM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infoimagination.org%2Fpolitic s%2Ffeatures%2Faxis.php&ei=fbUbUs-ACtTI2wXq2ICgAw&bvm=bv.51156542,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNHl36mrGvFFIvvK0bDlXd7C-LMHiQ&ust=1377633883201151)

Linky (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?425437-John-Kerry-should-have-met-with-disgraced-former-SoS-Collin-Powell-before-Syria-call-today&p=5195915&viewfull=1#post5195915)

susano
08-26-2013, 04:17 PM
May/2013

The Washington Times

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.

Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.

But she said her panel had not yet seen any evidence of Syrian government forces using chemical weapons, according to the BBC, but she added that more investigation was needed.

Damascus has recently facing growing Western accusations that its forces used such weapons, which President Obama has described as crossing a red line. But Ms. del Ponte’s remarks may serve to shift the focus of international concern.
Ms. del Ponte, who in 1999 was appointed to head the U.N. was crimes tribunals for Yugoslavia and Rwanda, has sometimes been a controversial figure. She was removed from her Rwanda post by the U.N. Security Council in 2003, but she continued as the chief prosecutor for the Yugoslav tribunal until 2008.

Ms. del Ponte, a former Swiss prosecutor and attorney general, told Swiss TV: “Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals. According to their report of last week, which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/

dannno
08-26-2013, 04:33 PM
Place your bets as to who is really lying.

I placed mine a long time ago, no need to move the chips around.

dannno
08-26-2013, 04:39 PM
Why would the Mods on Reddit delete this?

Maybe because the CIA has salaried employee(s) working at reddit?

http://i.imgur.com/x6cwI1o.png

presence
08-26-2013, 05:11 PM
U.S. 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad's regime (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?402881-U-S-backed-plan-to-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-on-Syria-and-blame-it-on-Assad-s-regime&highlight=britam) Started by sailingaway (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?25934-sailingaway), 01-30-2013 http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/subscribed.png







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General Politics (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?23-General-Politics)



Hacked emails show potential False Flag in Syria (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?402728-Hacked-emails-show-potential-False-Flag-in-Syria&highlight=britam) Started by itshappening (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?12181-itshappening), 01-28-2013







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General Politics (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?23-General-Politics)



Anonymous hacks US Sentencing Commission, distributes files (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?402496-Anonymous-hacks-US-Sentencing-Commission-distributes-files&highlight=britam)

susano
08-26-2013, 05:37 PM
July 7/2013


Syrian rebels' Damascus chemical cache found by Assad army - State TV

The Syrian army has discovered a storehouse belonging to rebels in the Damascus area of Jobar, where toxic chemical substances - including chlorine - have been produced and kept, State TV reported.

Military sources reported that the militants "were preparing to fire mortars in the suburbs of the capital and were going to pack missiles with chemical warheads."

A video shot by RT’s sister channel Russia Al Youm shows an old, partly ruined building which was set up as a laboratory. After entering the building, Syrian Army officers found scores of canisters and bags laid on the floor and tables. According to a warning sign on the bags, the “corrosive” substance was made in Saudi Arabia.

On July 7, the Syrian army confiscated “281 barrels filled with dangerous, hazardous chemical materials” that they found at a cache belonging to rebels in the city of Banias. The chemicals included monoethylene glycol and polyethylene glycol.

Syrian UN Ambassador Bashar Ja’afari said that the chemicals were “capable of destroying a whole city, if not the whole country."

Chief UN chemical weapons investigator Ake Sellstrom and UN disarmament chief Angela Kane are expected in Damascus for talks on Monday, following an invitation from the Syrian government.

It is now crucial to find out where the rebels are getting the chemicals from, defense consultant Moeen Raouff told RT.

“The Syrian military has been doing an extremely good job of protecting the nation,” he said. “And if they found this alleged factory than we need to know what the origins of the chemicals are, if they came through the Turkish, Jordanian, Iraqi or Lebanese borders.”

Raouff added that the discovery is unlikely to change the West’s attitude toward the Syrian rebels.

“The Western allies are intent on toppling Assad," he stressed. "Again, they’re going for a case like Iraq and Libya. They’re going after one man and destroying the whole nation. So, I doubt that there’ll be a major reaction. And the Security Council hasn’t reacted to this situation prior to this.”

http://rt.com/news/damascus-syria-chemical-weapons-082/

susano
08-26-2013, 05:40 PM
Why would the Mods on Reddit delete this?

Maybe because the CIA has salaried employee(s) working at reddit?

http://i.imgur.com/x6cwI1o.png

Or useful idiots who support the globalist interventionist shit stirring war making NWO. God knows, there's enough of them.

RickyJ
08-26-2013, 06:53 PM
So much for the geniuses at CyberWarNews, I guess.


Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/

(http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_01_31/Syrian-e-mails-hacked-on-Britam-Defense/)


Even REDDIT pulled it after this statement. But they're lying too, I suppose.

Anyway, it's off the front page now, so I'm satisfied. ALthough it should be banished to Hot Topics with all the other unsubstantiated conspiracy noise, that's apparently too much to ask these days.

Even if the emails are forged, that doesn't necessarily mean that the content of the emails is wrong. We are helping Qatar, they are aiding the Syrian rebels, and the rebels are the ones caught using chemical weapons and then blaming it on the Syrian army with officials in the USA saying this has crossed a "red line" and we need to attack now. This story is immensely believable considering it appears to have happened just as this email's content indicated it would happen.

susano
08-26-2013, 09:07 PM
Nearly 50 years before the war in Iraq, Britain and America sought a secretive "regime change" in another Arab country they accused of spreading terror and threatening the west's oil supplies, by planning the invasion of Syria and the assassination of leading figures.

Newly discovered documents show how in 1957 Harold Macmillan and President Dwight Eisenhower approved a CIA-MI6 plan to stage fake border incidents as an excuse for an invasion by Syria's pro-western neighbours, and then to "eliminate" the most influential triumvirate in Damascus.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/sep/27/uk.syria1


Same as it ever was. Same filthy actors.

susano
08-26-2013, 11:52 PM
http://syria360.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/urgent-facts-about-the-chemical-weapons-attack-in-damascus/


h ttp://syria360.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/urgent-facts-about-the-chemical-weapons-attack-in-damascus/

It is now clear that the children were killed before the massacre alleged chemical. Now the question: Where were those children killed and in what circumstances and by ciasyriaats.


upon our searching today the wind speed records in the Syrian meteorology, it turned out to be in the Damascus area ranged between 23 to 25 km / h. It is understood that this speed is never suitable for the use of a chemical weapon, technically, because its use in such weather would have caused the death of many people in the surrounding areas. Now we are sure that no one got hurt among those who live a few hundred meters far from the areas of the alleged chemical attack!

Mother Agnes-Mariam has contacted friends living in Kashkoul: one street away from Aïn Tarmah. Nobody had felt anything abnormal, nobody was disturbed by nausea, headache etc… No odors, no dismay…The mother of our Forman is living in Abassin Square, a few meters away from Jobar. Nobody felt or smelled anything there either.

Fourth it was noticeable that the paramedics and medical staff did not take any precautions, even though the chemical gases, especially “Sarin”, remain in the clothes of the victims for a few hours and can be fatal in a certain manner through at least the first hour.

Were the medical personnel so certain that the clothing of the victims were completely sanitized so its members acted with “goodwill” as if they were on a recreational trip and not in the ambulance of the victims of a lethal chemical attack!!?
--When the rebels attacked Barzeh neighborhood with chemical bomb we knew one martyr called Mouhammad Assi who was immediately killed and transported to the hospital (first week of may 2013). The doctor who was curing him was poisoned with the remains of Sarin Gas in the clothes of this man and he had to be accepted in the intensive care for days.

videos
http://syria360.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/urgent-facts-about-the-chemical-weapons-attack-in-damascus/


h ttp://syria360.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/urgent-facts-about-the-chemical-weapons-attack-in-damascus/




How could those children meet together to die together, although they were not together nor in school nor in a club nor anywhere requiring their presence with each other, especially that the areas referred to are areas of military operations, and witnessing since this morning fierce blasts from the Syrian army with various kinds of weapons on the militants agglomerations in these areas, while those children do not show any injury caused by conventional weapon despite the ferocity of the shelling on people’s homes, as the opposition Local Committees are claiming!? And how did those children died while their parents did not according to our knowledge and according to what the video tapes are showing? Is it possible that chemical weapons invade civilian homes and choose to kill children without their parents as if they were programmed to kill the children alone?

http://syria360.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/urgent-facts-about-the-chemical-weapons-attack-in-damascus/

our site ‘the Truth” seized from the Local Coordination Committees three media spot covering the alleged chemical massacre . Some of those spots were published before they happened the 19th of August, at least before an hour of the events, while others before at least three hours of the timing and occurrence of the alleged massacre: ie three in the morning local time . Even if we take into consideration the time difference between Syria and Europe it remains constant that the tapes were carried on the 20 of the month.

How can videos display a massacre BEFORE it happened ? You can see the tape below, but now that some videos were deleted after discovering their error !

To make it short: it is a chemo drama but it is unfortunately very black. On the page of the Local Coordination Committee in Erbeen the “chemical attack” is dated 21st of August, but the information was published the 20th of August !!!

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-Syrian-rebels-used-Sarin-nerve-gas-not-Assad%E2%80%99s-regime-U-N-official-May-6-2013?pid=6392945#pid6392945

eduardo89
08-26-2013, 11:55 PM
Maybe because the CIA has salaried employee(s) working at reddit?

lol, all that weed is making you paranoid.

Peace Piper
08-27-2013, 12:39 AM
Well worth the time:

Edit: Original video "removed by the user"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbfcceEkn_M

Here's another copy (edit: Deleted, replaced below with update-explanation in video)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R7knc-G360

By the way, have any of the "Rebels" or "Activists" been willing to share their names?

We're funding "anonymous" but I have to send my SS#, Drivers license and utility bill to continue using Paypal? Seriously?

This whole thing just proves how gullible the masses are. And this is After Milosovic, Hussein AND Gaddafi. No wonder the Feds lie with gusto. People keep believing them!

DamianTV
08-27-2013, 12:42 AM
Hmm, and who gave the Rebels the chemical weapons in the first place? Oh yeah, we did. Now, about that missing nuke...

susano
08-27-2013, 12:54 AM
Thanks for the rep, Peace Piper, but I'm just ripping from another forum and posting stuff from here over there! I can barely keep up reading all this stuff! Do check out the Lunatic Outpost link because there are lots of good posters and threads with posters from all over the world.

susano
08-27-2013, 01:07 AM
Great vid, PP. I watched another from them, a day or two ago. They convey a lot of info in short videos.