Fukushima alert upgraded; West Coast of North America to Be Hit Hard by Radiation

[enhanced_deficit]

This is big news in Japan and Pacific effects could be big news for US soon:



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(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23776345)
Japan nuclear agency upgrades Fukushima alert level (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23776345)

BBC News-Aug 22, 2013
Japan's nuclear agency has upgraded the severity level of a radioactive ... an hour of radiation, Kyodo news agency said earlier this week.
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(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/radiation-crisis-at-fukushima-nuclear-plant-in-japan-deepens-as-threat-level-raised-to-serious-8778137.html)
Radiation crisis at Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan deepens as ... (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/radiation-crisis-at-fukushima-nuclear-plant-in-japan-deepens-as-threat-level-raised-to-serious-8778137.html)

The Independent-Aug 21, 2013
Japan's nuclear watchdog has upgraded its alert level for radiation leaks at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, underlying the deepening ...








Sailor believes illness due to radiation from service in Japan (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=26440227)

ksl.com-Aug 16, 2013
This archived news story is available only for your personal, non-commercial use. Information in the story may be outdated or super-ceded by ...




Fukushima bay radiation levels highest since measurements began (http://japandailypress.com/fukushima-bay-radiation-levels-highest-since-measurements-began-2034175/)

The Japan Daily Press-Aug 19, 2013
Reports from Tokyo Electric Power Co. (TEPCO), operator of the disaster-stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, say that ...




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(http://news.msn.com/us/calls-for-seafood-tests-due-to-radiation-leak-in-japan)
Calls for seafood tests due to radiation leak in Japan (http://news.msn.com/us/calls-for-seafood-tests-due-to-radiation-leak-in-japan)

MSN News-Aug 12, 2013
Scientists previously reported higher-than-expected concentrations of radiation in fish off Japan. Now there are calls for testing of seafood sold ...
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(http://www.globalresearch.ca/west-coast-of-north-america-to-be-hit-hard-by-fukushima-radiation/5346470)
West Coast of North America to Be Hit Hard by Fukushima Radiation (http://www.globalresearch.ca/west-coast-of-north-america-to-be-hit-hard-by-fukushima-radiation/5346470)

Center for Research on Globalization-Aug 21, 2013
... the Fukushima radiation, a previously-secret 1955 U.S. government ... On March 30, 2011, the Japan Central News Agency reported the ...





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(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23764382)
Fukushima nuclear plant: Radioactive water leak found (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23764382)

BBC News-Aug 20, 2013
This is the first time that Japan has declared such an event since the 2011 ... 100 millisieverts an hour of radiation, Kyodo news agency said.

[enhanced_deficit]

These are dated previous threat models for more severe scenarious:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTBYKWjiO_osPdNkB-EsKRG_H7iJIisJViAmwoI1sTwAJa7WPMU6A (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=fukushima%20radiation&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=yWLGe9wj4PYyzM&tbnid=EM93jBARj3j5KM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wallstreetmanna.com%2F2011%2F 03%2Fwater-radiation-level-in-fukushima-10.html&ei=WuIYUt6jF6ea2AWvqIHwDQ&bvm=bv.51156542,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNGcdx2RcRO4PqrS9r4BX27r2wHoOg&ust=1377448897371333)



http://www.globalresearch.ca/articlePictures/fukushima_radiation_nuclear_fallout_map.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=JlABwcYMZJiEBM&tbnid=9MpoNc2sUesBuM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalresearch.ca%2Ffukushima-a-nuclear-war-without-a-war-the-unspoken-crisis-of-worldwide-nuclear-radiation%2F28870&ei=-eEYUo7WEpKl2AW5s4EY&bvm=bv.51156542,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNHwpBp_9CTqDLvzqxlvDXaZDmkUjA&ust=1377448770165254)

[AFPVet]

Why isn't this getting priority attention?

[enhanced_deficit]

Why isn't this getting priority attention?

Disgraced SWC Condi Rice examplifies what is wrong with our handling of early warning signs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIpEwGmSsmM

[ZENemy]

Fuck government.

[jj-]

Why isn't this getting priority attention?

The government doesn't want to scare the people.

[enhanced_deficit]

The government doesn't want to scare the people. with the wrong kind of Fear.



Corrected.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Fukushima alert upgraded; West Coast of North America to Be Hit Hard by Radiation

We may only have a few hours.

[enhanced_deficit]

We may only have a few hours.

before pupms start bombing Syria possibly.

Tons of radioactive water leaking has different timeline and effects if that remained the only malfunction.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/131944.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/North_Pacific_Subtropical_Convergence_Zone.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/North_Pacific_Subtropical_Convergence_Zone.jpg)

[HOLLYWOOD]

NHK TV out of Japan is the best source of info you'll get today

http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/6810.htm

[MRK]

We may only have a few hours.

I lol'd

[XNavyNuke]

What I want to know is why Alex Jones AND Greenpeace AND The Whitehouse were NOT clambering for an asteroid intercepting system after Aliens exploded a rock in our atmosphere above Chelyabinsk that contained 400 MILLION becquerels of radioactive isotopes.

The dust plume has already gone around the planet and we've all breathed the air. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396661/Meteor-slammed-Russia-February-left-cosmic-dust-showered-Earth-MONTHS.html All of the usual talking heads in the media have been silent. I wonder why? Hmmmm?

XNN

[enhanced_deficit]

What I want to know is why Alex Jones AND Greenpeace AND The Whitehouse were NOT clambering for an asteroid intercepting system after Aliens exploded a rock in our atmosphere above Chelyabinsk that contained 400 MILLION becquerels of radioactive isotopes.

The dust plume has already gone around the planet and we've all breathed the air. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396661/Meteor-slammed-Russia-February-left-cosmic-dust-showered-Earth-MONTHS.html All of the usual talking heads in the media have been silent. I wonder why? Hmmmm?

XNN

Hmmmm.

[Natural Citizen]

What I want to know is why Alex Jones AND Greenpeace AND The Whitehouse were NOT clambering for an asteroid intercepting

There have been a few good topics on this around here both prior to and during this particular event. Much of what you bring up was discussed. Or at least hinted upon in an effort to stimulate that kind of discussion.

The groups you reference regarding why they don't say anything are hardly relevant to the issue though. I know for a fact that I've shared numerous video discussions on the topic of tracking and managing these passers by so it's here some place.

And here's the thing. Is why it's important. Over the next few yers we're going to see activituy from incoming ...entities...like we've never before seen. Things that haven't happened in thousands and thousands of years. Neat stuff. Things we won't be around for to enjoy the fruits that will come from the studies that they will solicit but neat things nonetheless.

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

This comment will probably go totally unnoticed but sometimes when I am home alone I like to go out back into the garden, cover myself in dirt and pretend I am a carrot.

[Dr.3D]

This comment will probably go totally unnoticed but sometimes when I am home alone I like to go out back into the garden, cover myself in dirt and pretend I am a carrot.
Sounds like a semi-vegetative state to me.

[Carlybee]

This comment will probably go totally unnoticed but sometimes when I am home alone I like to go out back into the garden, cover myself in dirt and pretend I am a carrot.


Duly noted and reported :)

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

Sounds like a semi-vegetative state to me.

rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooads.

[osan]

This comment will probably go totally unnoticed but sometimes when I am home alone I like to go out back into the garden, cover myself in dirt and pretend I am a carrot.

Why does this not surprise me in the least?

Given what is happening, I may join you.

[puppetmaster]

This comment will probably go totally unnoticed but sometimes when I am home alone I like to go out back into the garden, cover myself in dirt and pretend I am a carrot.
Neener neener no guns for you

[Henry Rogue]

A radioactive plume of water in the Pacific Ocean from Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant, which was crippled in the 2011 earthquake and tsunami, will likely reach U.S. coastal waters starting in 2014, according to a new study. The long journey of the radioactive particles could help researchers better understand how the ocean’s currents circulate around the world.

Ocean simulations showed that the plume of radioactive cesium-137 released by the Fukushima disaster in 2011 could begin flowing into U.S. coastal waters starting in early 2014 and peak in 2016.
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/fukushimas-radioactive-ocean-plume-due-reach-us-waters-2014-8C11050755

[XNavyNuke]

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/fukushimas-radioactive-ocean-plume-due-reach-us-waters-2014-8C11050755

Scary map, huh? All of those reds and yellows representing the plume. Lets take a look at the numbers in the journal article that the NBC story refers to. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096706371300112X

The researchers model predicts activity level of 10-30 Bq/m3. So one m3 of seawater has a mass of about 1000kg. One kg of Brazil nuts has an activity level of 400 Bq/kg. This means that the equivalent mass of Brazil nuts has an activity level of 400 k Bq. The surfer dude/ette with a kilo of Brazil nuts in a chafing dish on his/her coffee table should get out and catch those waves.

Detectable does not necessarily mean life threatening, and scary colors are sometimes only pretty.

XNN

[tod evans]

XNN,

Brazil nuts don't really give real life comparison for dummies like me..

How about using dental X-rays, or mammograms?

It's been decades since my NBC training in corps-school so help me get my head around how these isotopes can affect sea life and in turn be ingested to a humans detriment..

Please keep it simple!

[osan]

The long journey of the radioactive particles could help researchers better understand how the ocean’s currents circulate around the world.

Well SHIT, why didn't you say so before?

For a moment there I thought something bad was happening.

Oh damn - I am so relieved. OK folks, you can all put your smiley faces back on - we're clear.

PHEW

[osan]

Scary map, huh? All of those reds and yellows representing the plume. Lets take a look at the numbers in the journal article that the NBC story refers to. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096706371300112X

The researchers model predicts activity level of 10-30 Bq/m3. So one m3 of seawater has a mass of about 1000kg. One kg of Brazil nuts has an activity level of 400 Bq/kg. This means that the equivalent mass of Brazil nuts has an activity level of 400 k Bq. The surfer dude/ette with a kilo of Brazil nuts in a chafing dish on his/her coffee table should get out and catch those waves.

Detectable does not necessarily mean life threatening, and scary colors are sometimes only pretty.

XNN

I agree with what you say, but that is not, however, the whole picture. The radiation per se is not the threat - at least not in that form. The threat lay in the transformation of form as material is ingested, as well as the heavy-metal effects. Take plutonium, for instance - it has a fairly long half-life and is therefore not that big a threat in terms of radiation effect - particularly when compared with radio-iodine which is far hotter. But plutonium as a metal, even were it not radioactive, is enormously dangerous. Much like mercury, there is no minimal acceptable exposure (actually, I think the MSDS for Hg has been changed - fie on those who did so) - any exposure is considered potentially life-threatening. Lead is a reasonable analog there - it is not radioactive, but it is highly toxic and even light exposure in the right forms poses serious threats. Note "in the right form", a key factor as well, which is one reason that the ban on lead in many uses is irrational.

The problem, radiation-wise, lies in biologic concentration. That 10-30 Bq/m^3 is not threatening in that form, but it is not going to remain that way. In time the fauna swimming through those waters will ingest and CONCENTRATE the poisions. We catch some of those creatures, eat them, and the 90Sr goes into comparatively high concentrations in our bones, raising the radioactivity in those tissues, not to mention the heavy metal toxicity. At that point we are no longer talking about the relatively innocent looking radiation levels, but those notably higher plus the heavy metal effects.

It's not the water in itself that worries me so much as the foods we take from those now-tainted seas. And one of the greater threats as I see it lies in the 139I because it goes into a gaseous phase and gets blown all over kingdom come, is comparatively very hot, and accumulates in the thyroid, refusing to be displaced once there.

Only time will reveal the real magnitude of this cluster copulation, but if we think on it clearly, even if cancers do not rise exponentially, can it be then said that this was not that big a deal? I think it's a very big deal.

[Barrex]

XNN,

Brazil nuts don't really give real life comparison for dummies like me..

How about using dental X-rays, or mammograms?

It's been decades since my NBC training in corps-school so help me get my head around how these isotopes can affect sea life and in turn be ingested to a humans detriment..

Please keep it simple!

Watch movie: Pacific Rim.

[ZENemy]

this is karma, Hiroshima

[FindLiberty]

We're all gonna' die, eventually. If you manage to avoid radiation, poisoned food and tainted drinking water, even the best doctors cannot prevent death, they can only postpone it.

[Danke]

We're all gonna' die, eventually. If you manage to avoid radiation, poisoned food and tainted drinking water, even the best doctors cannot prevent death, they can only postpone it.

So you're a half-full tainted drinking water glass type of guy?

[HOLLYWOOD]

Sounds like a semi-vegetative state to me.The Irony of this situation and your statement... watch. There may be a positive out of this, lol

Gilligan's Island
Season 3 (http://www.sidereel.com/Gilligans_Island/season-3), Episode 3 (http://www.sidereel.com/Gilligans_Island/season-3/episode-3)
Aired: September 26, 1966

"Pass the Vegetables, Please (http://www.sidereel.com/Gilligans_Island/season-3/episode-3)"

http://s3.sidereel.com/episodes/64953/featured/1bc5.3.3.jpg
Gilligan finds a crate of radioactive vegetable seeds. The plants grow quickly and grossly misshapen, but the Castaways are so hungry for new items in their diet that they consume them quickly. The plants, when eaten, give the castaways super-human power!

[XNavyNuke]

How about using dental X-rays, or mammograms?

It's been decades since my NBC training in corps-school so help me get my head around how these isotopes can affect sea life and in turn be ingested to a humans detriment..

Please keep it simple!

That's okay. Its a bit messed up because activity, dose, and dose rate are often given interchangeably. The Becquerels in this article are a measure of activity. Activity delivers a dose rate that varies inversely as a function of distance. Dose rate multiplied by exposure time gives you dose. In the case of your dental x-ray, you get a dose of about 3 mrem that was delivered over two seconds. The electric tube used was capable of delivering a dose rate of about 2 rem/hr.

I apologize for using brazil nuts. I just assume that everybody has them in their nut bowl around the holidays. Brazil nuts and bananas are just a non-scary way of putting in perspective radiation for the layman. Here's an explanation of banana equivalent dose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose) from wikipedia.

Since you already have an understanding of mrem, lets convert the dose of that cubic meter of water. If all of the 30 Bq activity was removed and put in an unshielded container at arms length you would be getting a dose rate from that sample at 0.0000008 mrem/hr and would take 3.75 million hours to get you dental x-ray dose.

XNN

[PaulConventionWV]

We may only have a few hours.

lol

[XNavyNuke]

I agree with what you say, but that is not, however, the whole picture. The radiation per se is not the threat - at least not in that form. The threat lay in the transformation of form as material is ingested, as well as the heavy-metal effects. Take plutonium, for instance - it has a fairly long half-life and is therefore not that big a threat in terms of radiation effect - particularly when compared with radio-iodine which is far hotter. But plutonium as a metal, even were it not radioactive, is enormously dangerous. Much like mercury, there is no minimal acceptable exposure (actually, I think the MSDS for Hg has been changed - fie on those who did so) - any exposure is considered potentially life-threatening. Lead is a reasonable analog there - it is not radioactive, but it is highly toxic and even light exposure in the right forms poses serious threats. Note "in the right form", a key factor as well, which is one reason that the ban on lead in many uses is irrational.

The problem, radiation-wise, lies in biologic concentration. That 10-30 Bq/m^3 is not threatening in that form, but it is not going to remain that way. In time the fauna swimming through those waters will ingest and CONCENTRATE the poisions. We catch some of those creatures, eat them, and the 90Sr goes into comparatively high concentrations in our bones, raising the radioactivity in those tissues, not to mention the heavy metal toxicity. At that point we are no longer talking about the relatively innocent looking radiation levels, but those notably higher plus the heavy metal effects.

It's not the water in itself that worries me so much as the foods we take from those now-tainted seas. And one of the greater threats as I see it lies in the 139I because it goes into a gaseous phase and gets blown all over kingdom come, is comparatively very hot, and accumulates in the thyroid, refusing to be displaced once there.

Only time will reveal the real magnitude of this cluster copulation, but if we think on it clearly, even if cancers do not rise exponentially, can it be then said that this was not that big a deal? I think it's a very big deal.

Radioisotopes of Cesium and Strontium biologically act as calcium replacers. As a result, they will be concentrated in bones, shells, and sea worm casings. Most people do not eat these components and there are many more creatures dying than are being consumed by humans. As a result, most of this will end up quickly sinking to the bottom of the floor of the ocean. There is a wonder mud layer down there from previous global weapons testing to validate that hypothesis.

Iodine-139 half life is 2.9 seconds and since its been 2+ years since Fukushima there are likely to be no detectable levels anywhere from the initial release. The longest lived halflife of Iodine is that of I-125 which is about 60 days. That will stay around longer both because of its half life and its role in marine plant life. Fortunately I-131 is by far the most common isotope produced by fission and its half-life is only 8 days. After two years (90 half lives) there is effectively none of that left either.

Any uncontrolled release of radioactive material should be concerning (but not necessarily run-for-the-hills fear inspiring). I don't believe I ever said that it wasn't. This is a matter of perspective and media misinformation to push an agenda that is antithetical to liberty. They report numbers and refuse to put them in context of exposures that people get everyday from uncontrolled releases that are perfectly legal and acceptable. Whenever anyone is working that hard to spread fear for its own sake, you have to question their motives. I post at many places under many nyms and this is the only place where I take time to explain the reporting of these media hacks. I happen to believe that the regulars here are a bit more intelligent and questioning of what they are being spoon fed (on most things).

XNN

[osan]

Iodine-139 half life is 2.9 seconds and since its been 2+ years since Fukushima there are likely to be no detectable levels anywhere from the initial release. The longest lived halflife of Iodine is that of I-125 which is about 60 days. That will stay around longer both because of its half life and its role in marine plant life. Fortunately I-131 is by far the most common isotope produced by fission and its half-life is only 8 days. After two years (90 half lives) there is effectively none of that left either.

Probably had that half life confused with Cs or Sr - I was thinking around 8 years, which is still quite hot.


I don't believe I ever said that it wasn't [a big deal].

I didn't mean to say that YOU personally considered it a non-event. But still, Japan has put us over the wood, if by no other virtue than psychologically precisely because people do not understand the realities. That aside, the site is a friggin' major disaster and I stand by my belief that the board at TEPCO should be buried under the jail.


EDIT: my bad - I was thinking of 131-I not 139. 131 has a half-life of 8 days - plenty of time to cause trouble. Damned iodine has something like 30+ radioisotopes. 139 is extinct, apparently.


This is a matter of perspective and media misinformation to push an agenda that is antithetical to liberty.

That would not surprise me in the least - but OTOH there IS a legitimate concern here. What about all those poor stooges living within spitting distance of that haywire shit hole? What about when the next wave hits?


They report numbers and refuse to put them in context of exposures that people get everyday from uncontrolled releases that are perfectly legal and acceptable.

To whom? The question arises as to the standard of measure - who established it and how do we know it is reasonable?


Whenever anyone is working that hard to spread fear for its own sake, you have to question their motives.

I will not disagree - but when a disaster is in fact that serious, would those same people not be working as hard, all else equal? If so, how does one differentiate between honest dissemination of information and a malevolent covert agenda?


I post at many places under many nyms and this is the only place where I take time to explain the reporting of these media hacks. I happen to believe that the regulars here are a bit more intelligent and questioning of what they are being spoon fed (on most things).

XNN

Thanks for that - but once again I raise the point that because we are so thick with lies and bullshit everywhere we turn, it becomes nearly impossible to trust anything or anyone, which is one of the reasons I am so fond of Ron Paul - he has yet to be shown to have lied about ANYTHING. That makes him a "commodity" of extremely high value.

[Lucille]

5.8 Magnitude Quake Shakes Fukushima
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-19/earthquake-early-warning-issued-fukushima


Update and some comedic relief:


TEPCO SAYS NO ABNORMALITY AT FUKUSHIMA PLANT AFTER QUAKE: KYODO

Now why would TEPCO possibly lie about something like that?

EARTHQUAKE REPORTED TO HAVE HIT AT 02:25:09 JAPAN TIME: JMA
JAPAN EARTHQUAKE MAGNITUDE 5.8, AGENCY SAYS
JAPAN EARTHQUAKE LEVEL 5+ ON JAPANESE SCALE OF 7 IN FUKUSHIMA
NO TSUNAMI ALERT FROM JMA AFTER THE QUAKE




http://enenews.com/category/location/japan