Breaking: U.S. Poised To Strike Syria With Missiles

[RonPaulFanInGA]

https://twitter.com/CharlieKayeCBS

"BREAKING. @CBSDavidMartin: US naval commander orders warships to move closer to Syria to be ready for possible Cruise missile strike."

[jjdoyle]

https://twitter.com/CharlieKayeCBS

"BREAKING. @CBSDavidMartin: US naval commander orders warships to move closer to Syria to be ready for possible Cruise missile strike."

You think they're aiming for the terrorists, an aspirin factory, or those weapons they might have lost out of Libya with the current government's knowledge? Or, are we talking about them preparing for a possible strike against the government?

[DamianTV]

I think we've all been expecting this for a long time.

Pretty much every country that has shown any inclination towards purchasng OPEC Oil without Federal Reserve Notes has been put on the US Govts shit list and either direct military intervention or Proxy War has been declared on these countries. It also clearly explains what happened in Lybia and Egypt. One goal is war with Iran, and we are destabilizing every country that supports Iran in any way shape or form. Real Targets are Russia and China operating with the same strategy. Take out the supporting countries, then go after Russia. If our Govt wins a conflict with Russia (might not be military), they will be enslaved to the same Financial Banking Cartels that hold everyone in the USA hostage. So the country might appear to still be Russia, or Syria, or who ever our Govt goes after, but their Govts will all be controlled by the same people that own most Central Banks.

[Dr.3D]

So somebody just had to make it look like the line had been crossed so Obama can Obomb them. The real question here is, if chemical weapons were used, who did the using?

How does the U.S. government know what they are seeing isn't some kind of "Hollywood style" movie production?

[devil21]

You think they're aiming for the terrorists, an aspirin factory, or those weapons they might have lost out of Libya with the current government's knowledge? Or, are we talking about them preparing for a possible strike against the government?

Start of a no-fly zone sort of thing. They'll be locked on to Assad/Hezbollah's airfields, communications and planning sites, supply and arms depots, etc. Pretty much everything that will disable Assad's forces.

[chudrockz]

So somebody just had to make it looked like the line had been crossed so Obama can Obomb them. The real question here is, if chemical weapons were used, who did the using?

How does the U.S. government know what they are seeing isn't some kind of "Hollywood style" movie production?

Silly goose. I'm sure John McCain was on the ground DIRECTING the production and yelling "cut!"

[fr33]

No declaration of war. Impeach Obama. (yeah right)

[Peace Piper]

I think we've all been expecting this for a long time.

Pretty much every country that has shown any inclination towards purchasng OPEC Oil without Federal Reserve Notes has been put on the US Govts shit list and either direct military intervention or Proxy War has been declared on these countries. It also clearly explains what happened in Lybia and Egypt. One goal is war with Iran, and we are destabilizing every country that supports Iran in any way shape or form. Real Targets are Russia and China operating with the same strategy. Take out the supporting countries, then go after Russia. If our Govt wins a conflict with Russia (might not be military), they will be enslaved to the same Financial Banking Cartels that hold everyone in the USA hostage. So the country might appear to still be Russia, or Syria, or who ever our Govt goes after, but their Govts will all be controlled by the same people that own most Central Banks.

Syrian Girl explains it well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP3mXVRd89Y

It's "Backing up globalization with military might" <----that author Karen Talbot nailed it in 1999. It's like the Feds patenting Pot. It's all right out there but few people are paying attention.

New World Order Onslaught Covert Action Quarterly, Issue 68, Fall 1999


McDonald's Needs McDonnell Douglas to Flourish

An article by Thomas Friedman in the New York Times entitled "What the World Needs Now" tells it all. Illustrated by an American Flag on a fist it said, among other things: "For globalism to work, America can't be afraid to act like the almighty superpower that it is....The hidden hand of the market will never work without a hidden fist-McDonald's cannot flourish without McDonnell Douglas, the designer of the F-15. And the hidden fist that keeps the world safe for Silicon Valley's technologies is called the United States Army, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps." (23)

There could not be a better description of how the U.S. armed forces are seen as the military arm of the globalizing transnational corporations (TNCs).

President Clinton said in a speech delivered the day before his televised address to Americans about Kosovo: "If we're going to have a strong economic relationship that includes our ability to sell around the world, Europe has got to be a key....That's what this Kosovo thing is all about."
Much More:
http://www.globalissues.org/article/448/backing-up-globalization-with-military-might#McDonaldsNeedsMcDonnellDouglastoFlourish


Assad will end up dead or deposed, just like Gaddafi, and all major media will cheer it on. Those who dare question will be called racists, child killers and worse. This is what happens when people can't learn from history. It's disgusting.

But there's cinnabons in Libya!!

Cinnabon in Tripoli as Libya Opens Up to Foreign Business December 13, 2012


After 42 years, the country formerly known as the Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya is getting its first taste of consumer capitalism in an unlikely form: sweet, sticky cinnamon rolls. Cinnabon, the Atlanta-based bakery chain, is at the vanguard of a potential business boom in the North African country, which deposed dictator Muammar Qaddafi last year in a bloody civil war. In July the unit of Focus Brands became the first U.S. franchise to open since the revolution, with a two-level Tripoli outlet. It’s become a popular destination in a city with few diversions for residents.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-13/cinnabon-in-tripoli-as-libya-opens-up-to-foreign-business

Soon: Cinnabon in Damascus as Syria opens up to Foreign Business

Next Stop: Iran (for a 2nd time)
1953 Iranian coup d'état (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état)

Spreading Capitalism bomb by bomb. It's a crime happening right in front of everyone's eyes. Astounding.

[Philhelm]

Might as well bomb 'em all while we're at it. We should declare war on the entire world.

[pcosmar]

How does the U.S. government know what they are seeing isn't some kind of "Hollywood style" movie production?

They are involved in the production. They have the script and their role.

The show must go on.

[speciallyblend]

They are involved in the production. They have the script and their role.

The show must go on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQsZOQqO6I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQsZOQqO6I

[69360]

How do they decide which side to blow up? The AQ terrorists or the genocidal dictator? Fuck it flip a coin, somebody has to die to feed the MIC.

[jclay2]

On Huffingtonpost, they are blaming the neocons for this or supporting it as some type of white night policeman of the world mission.

[AngryCanadian]

Excuse me what? Cruise missiles moving war ships near the Syrian coast while the Russians have there own fleet in the area?

[RickyJ]

I don't think they are going to strike. Russia has its ships in the area and I do not think it will sit idly by and let their ally get attacked like this. They either stand up to the United States here or Putin will become a laughing stock in Russia. Putin has no choice but to draw the line with Syria, and with warships in the area, I think he already has decided to do exactly that.

[robert68]

Assad will end up dead or deposed, just like Gaddafi, and all major media will cheer it on. Those who dare question will be called racists, child killers and worse. This is what happens when people can't learn from history. It's disgusting.
...
Spreading Capitalism bomb by bomb. It's a crime happening right in front of everyone's eyes. Astounding.

The herd instinct.

[AngryCanadian]

I don't think they are going to strike. Russia has its ships in the area and I do not think it will sit idly by and let their ally get attacked like this. They either stand up to the United States here or Putin will become a laughing stock in Russia. Putin has no choice but to draw the line with Syria, and with warships in the area, I think he already has decided to do exactly that.

Indeed notice how all our beloved MSM stopped reporting on them?

[jclay2]

I don't think they are going to strike. Russia has its ships in the area and I do not think it will sit idly by and let their ally get attacked like this. They either stand up to the United States here or Putin will become a laughing stock in Russia. Putin has no choice but to draw the line with Syria, and with warships in the area, I think he already has decided to do exactly that.

I hope you are right, but don't hold your breath.

[robert68]

How do they decide which side to blow up? The AQ terrorists or the genocidal dictator? Fuck it flip a coin, somebody has to die to feed the MIC.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[HOLLYWOOD]

All according to plan... like General Wesley Clark states, "There's been a POLICY COUP in Washington(DC), no one told the American people"


The elitist pricks that control it all, are having their puppet federal government and Propagandist Of The United States move the next piece on the "RISK Board"

Wish some country had the balls to step in with nukes and DETENTE these WARING and PROFITEERING crazy motherfuckers. Because they won't stop... it will continue, it will continue onto the next; Sea Port, the next Oil Field, the next treasure of Natural Resources, the next sovereign country/location.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha1rEhovONU

[juleswin]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

hehe, I would like to know which genocide he is responsible for cos not even the fire breathing MSM is calling a genocidal dictator.

[jclay2]

Wish some country had the balls to step in with nukes and DETENTE these WARING and PROFITEERING crazy motherfuckers. Because they won't stop... it will continue, it will continue onto the next; Sea Port, the next Oil Field, the next treasure of Natural Resources, the next sovereign country/location

And if they don't back down and the nukes fall.....

[Christian Liberty]

I think we've all been expecting this for a long time.

Pretty much every country that has shown any inclination towards purchasng OPEC Oil without Federal Reserve Notes has been put on the US Govts shit list and either direct military intervention or Proxy War has been declared on these countries. It also clearly explains what happened in Lybia and Egypt. One goal is war with Iran, and we are destabilizing every country that supports Iran in any way shape or form. Real Targets are Russia and China operating with the same strategy. Take out the supporting countries, then go after Russia. If our Govt wins a conflict with Russia (might not be military), they will be enslaved to the same Financial Banking Cartels that hold everyone in the USA hostage. So the country might appear to still be Russia, or Syria, or who ever our Govt goes after, but their Govts will all be controlled by the same people that own most Central Banks.

I don't understand why they'd go to war for oil, doing that certainly doesn't drive the prices down.

I have a feeling that oil isn't really the motivation either.

[HOLLYWOOD]

And if they don't back down and the nukes fall.....Everyone always backs down on nukes... they have for 60+ years.

[alucard13mm]

Blood of millions of innocent african/middle eastern children are on our hands. You and I.

Most americans don't give a shit that it is their government killing all these kids, destabilizing areas, contaminiating area with DU, destroying infrastructure and prolonging wars. Most of us are guilty of being accessories to murder since we fund the war with our tax money and not do much to stop these murders.

[HOLLYWOOD]

And if they don't back down and the nukes fall.....Those that have the most to lose won't allow it to happen... that's why they want to push the NWO. That's why TPTB don't want any country to have a "Sampson Option" if an invader attempts to destroy or steal.


Either path is not looking good, but if the NWO succeeds, it's global slavery for eternity... you want that?


U.S. Military Option In Syria Being Weighed, Chuck Hagel Says
By ROBERT BURNS 08/23/13 09:40 PM ET EDT
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/23/us-military-option-in-syria_n_3807557.html
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ABOARD A MILITARY AIRCRAFT OVER THE PACIFIC — The Pentagon is moving naval forces closer to Syria in preparation for a possible decision by President Barack Obama to order military strikes, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel suggested on Friday.
Hagel declined to describe any specific movements of U.S. forces. He said Obama asked that the Pentagon to prepare military options for Syria and that some of those options "requires positioning our forces."
U.S. Navy ships are capable of a variety of military action, including launching Tomahawk cruise missiles, as they did against Libya in 2011 as part of an international action that led to the overthrow of the Libyan government.
"The Defense Department has a responsibility to provide the president with options for contingencies, and that requires positioning our forces, positioning our assets, to be able to carry out different options – whatever options the president might choose," Hagel said.
He said the U.S. is coordinating with the international community to determine "what exactly did happen" in the reported use by the Syrian government of chemical weapons against civilians earlier this week.
"We're still assessing that," he said.
Hagel said a determination on the chemical attack should be made swiftly because "there may be another attack coming," although he added that "we don't know" whether that will happen.
Hagel said that although he is scheduled to spend the next week traveling in Southeast Asia, he will remain in contact with the White House about developments in Syria and planning for potential U.S. action.

[RickyJ]

Everyone always backs down on nukes... they have for 60+ years.


That will not always be the case. The nukes will be used someday, it is just a matter of time. The USA did not back down on nuking Japan twice. They did so not knowing for sure if Russia or even Japan already had nukes since Nazi scientists were so close to building nukes that the only reason they failed to do so was because they had some leading scientists there that had a conscience.

[RCA]

I think she misused the phrase "dogs of war".

[Tywysog Cymru]

Assad's forces never really stood a chance, I had a bad feeling that the US would intervene before the Rebels were defeated (which they would be by next year if we don't intervene).

[WM_in_MO]

MEANWHILE, AT THE HALL OF NEOCON:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gSJW3sHXE

[HOLLYWOOD]

That will not always be the case. The nukes will be used someday, it is just a matter of time. The USA did not back down on nuking Japan twice. They did so not knowing for sure if Russia or even Japan already had nukes since Nazi scientists were so close to building nukes that the only reason they failed to do so was because they had some leading scientists there that had a conscience.Can't say the same for the US and Russian scientists, eh?

The OSS code back to America from surrendered Germany, "Baby never born" Germany was never close to developing atomic materials or weapons.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the first and last usage on people in wars... it revealed the holocaust of destruction, and even though there have been 10,000s of nuclear warheads and weapons since, their only usage on live targets in an act of war, they haven't been used in acts of war or invasions for over 60+ years

It's called DETENTE...
It's called MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction)...
It's called STAND DOWN...

It's called Americans... FINALLY wake up and realize the megalomaniacs politicians/Banksters/Elitists that control these countries, killing innocent people and finally get off their lazy TV asses to stop all the craziness.

Look at what the US and the 'Allies of evil' did with conventional weapons over the past 10 years... dropping millions of tons of conventional bombs, missiles, and depleted Uranium killing 100,000s, the followon malnoralities in births and health issues, or should a Neutron Nuke solve the issue? In all truthfulness, it's all about money, profit, and control... these long dragged-out wars serve the elite few. THey get more of what they want and less for everyone else.

[kcchiefs6465]

I don't understand why they'd go to war for oil, doing that certainly doesn't drive the prices down.

I have a feeling that oil isn't really the motivation either.
If oil wasn't priced in dollars we would lose our currency being the reserve standard of the world.

Anyone threatening that is certainly on a list.

Speaking of which, I'm not sure if you have seen this Ron Paul speech but I never miss a chance to post it. His best speech.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44wo8IhuHfQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUacN9pRWII


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl1EE2-z5C8

Here's the text.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2006/02/ron-paul/why-the-us-hates-iraq-iran-and-venezuela/

[MRK]

Every time this happens I get sick and am brought to the brink of vomiting.

Thank goodness this is the last year I'll be paying federal taxes and supporting this bloodshed madness.

[RickyJ]

Can't say the same for the US and Russian scientists, eh?

The OSS code back to America from surrendered Germany, "Baby never born" Germany was never close to developing atomic materials or weapons.



The British secretly taped the Nazi prisoners of war that were the leading scientists working on the nuclear bomb in Germany and it was evident they were not far away from building it but were hindered by some of them because they did not want Hitler to have that power. They were flabbergasted that the USA developed one and actually used it. It appears they did indeed have more of a conscience than American and Russian nuclear scientists despite what we have been led to believe in history books about all Nazis being evil.

[HOLLYWOOD]

The British secretly taped the Nazi prisoners of war that were the leading scientists working on the nuclear bomb in Germany and it was evident they were not far away from building it but were hindered by some of them because they did not want Hitler to have that power. They were flabbergasted that the USA developed one and actually used it. It appears they did indeed have more of a conscience than American and Russian nuclear scientists despite what we have been led to believe in history books about all Nazis being evil.The actual report from the OSS was in plain translated English... "They weren't even close"

All one has to look at today are: who's doing the overthrowing, who's doing all the bombing, who's initializing the killing, who's doing the invading, and who's stealing natural resources, and finally, who's creating the rigged phony monetary system around the globe. If I was the leader of a nation the first thing I would want, is a huge deterrent against these globalist invaders.

[kcchiefs6465]

The actual report from the OSS was in plain translated English... "They weren't even close"

All one has to look at today are: who's doing the overthrowing, who's doing all the bombing, who's initializing the killing, who's doing the invading, and who's stealing natural resources, and finally, who's creating the rigged phony monetary system around the globe. If I was the leader of a nation the first thing I would want, is a huge deterrent against these globalist invaders.
Can you post the Quadaffi speech where Assad is smirking?

Definitely relevant.

[Brian4Liberty]

Everyone always backs down on nukes... they have for 60+ years.

Marxist totalitarians are dangerous.

[ClydeCoulter]

I don't understand why they'd go to war for oil, doing that certainly doesn't drive the prices down.

I have a feeling that oil isn't really the motivation either.

Why would you or I have to profit from it for it to be of advantage to others? The U.S. military is the largest user of oil. They need oil, and other resources.

edit: And, there is a future need for oil. If it is a limited resource, who would want to have it? It's about everything they want, dollar supremacy, and all natural resources. And commodities (resources) are real money.

[fr33]

I don't understand why they'd go to war for oil, doing that certainly doesn't drive the prices down.

I have a feeling that oil isn't really the motivation either.

You assume that a war for oil is about driving prices down. It isn't. It's about securing contracts in foreign lands for oil companies that pay off our politicians. It has nothing to do with us and everything to do with THEM.

[AngryCanadian]

Can you post the Quadaffi speech where Assad is smirking?

Definitely relevant.


Maybe he was smirking because he knows Assad wont have the same fate as Gaddafi?

[kcchiefs6465]

Maybe he was smirking because he knows Assad wont have the same fate as Gaddafi?
Quadaffi was giving a speech talking about US imperialism and that other Arab nations would be next if they did not all stand together. Assad was smirking at the thought.

Apparently Quadaffi wasn't too far off.

[Pericles]

Might as well bomb 'em all while we're at it. We should declare war on the entire world.

It would save a great deal of time, and is potentially fewer Hellfire missiles that could be sent in my direction, should the time come.

[fr33]

It would save a great deal of time, and is potentially fewer Hellfire missiles that could be sent in my direction, should the time come.

But you (and I) have made more payments towards those hellfire missiles. I'm honestly tired of buying stuff to kill others that didn't pay for it. Let's see that shit for ourselves so we can get this farce over with.

We can call it a test of whether the constitution means anything to those who claim to serve it.

[Pericles]

But you (and I) have made more payments towards those hellfire missiles. I'm honestly tired of buying stuff to kill others that didn't pay for it. Let's see that shit for ourselves so we can get this farce over with.

We can call it a test of whether the constitution means anything to those who claim to serve it.

I consider myself well practiced at tax avoidance, and since 1997, all of my income taxes have gone to Switzerland.

[Lucille]

Yesterday: American, Israeli And Jordanian Troops And CIA Agents Have Entered Syria, Le Figaro Reports
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-22/american-israeli-and-jordanian-troops-and-cia-agents-have-entered-syria-le-figaro-re

Does CONgress get a say in this new war of Obama's, or are they happy to let the exec. branch usurp their power and take all the responsibility?

[kcchiefs6465]

They've been content for a while.

60 days until Congress can try and get out of wars. (I realize the absurdity)

Usurpers.

[Warlord]

Obombya!

[Philhelm]

Can't say the same for the US and Russian scientists, eh?

The OSS code back to America from surrendered Germany, "Baby never born" Germany was never close to developing atomic materials or weapons.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the first and last usage on people in wars... it revealed the holocaust of destruction, and even though there have been 10,000s of nuclear warheads and weapons since, their only usage on live targets in an act of war, they haven't been used in acts of war or invasions for over 60+ years

It's called DETENTE...
It's called MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction)...
It's called STAND DOWN...

It's called Americans... FINALLY wake up and realize the megalomaniacs politicians/Banksters/Elitists that control these countries, killing innocent people and finally get off their lazy TV asses to stop all the craziness.

Look at what the US and the 'Allies of evil' did with conventional weapons over the past 10 years... dropping millions of tons of conventional bombs, missiles, and depleted Uranium killing 100,000s, the followon malnoralities in births and health issues, or should a Neutron Nuke solve the issue? In all truthfulness, it's all about money, profit, and control... these long dragged-out wars serve the elite few. THey get more of what they want and less for everyone else.

I believe that nuclear weapons are weapons to be used as such, but simply "bargaining chips," as nations with nuclear weapons can provide a deterrent against foreign aggression.

[HOLLYWOOD]

So much for those June 2013 "joint exercises and training Jordan wargames" ...Patriot batteries, F-16s and 4,500 US troops near Syrian border :rolleyes:
http://rt.com/news/jordan-multinational-military-exercises-459/

Know your Cultural Awareness Video - Jordan : http://www.ijetu.com/live/home/play.php?C=vijetinternational.tr-0020_jordan_video&NRP=vijetinternational.tr-0020_jordan_video&dA=vijetinternational.tr_0020_jordanDP

Does this name in BOLD sound familiar?
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Yesterday: American, Israeli And Jordanian Troops And CIA Agents Have Entered Syria, Le Figaro Reports
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-22/american-israeli-and-jordanian-troops-and-cia-agents-have-entered-syria-le-figaro-re

Does CONgress get a say in this new war of Obama's, or are they happy to let the exec. branch usurp their power and take all the responsibility?

[angelatc]

My son's friend is in the service, and she got orders that indicated that she will by in Syria by next March or so. She said they weren't secret.

[AngryCanadian]

My son's friend is in the service, and she got orders that indicated that she will by in Syria by next March or so. She said they weren't secret.

And your son's friend is in what service? air force? navy? so this true then? going to war with Syria without an Mandate? this is stupid. By next march there might not be an Economy by march.


So i see they are planning to take out Syria once Assad leaves next Year then? the intervention would start next year then?

[angelatc]

And your son's friend is in what service? air force? navy? so this true then? going to war with Syria without an Mandate? this is stupid. By next march there might not be an Economy by march.


So i see they are planning to take out Syria once Assad leaves next Year then? the intervention would start next year then?

She's in the Army. She's a medic.

[twomp]

And your son's friend is in what service? air force? navy? so this true then? going to war with Syria without an Mandate? this is stupid. By next march there might not be an Economy by march.


So i see they are planning to take out Syria once Assad leaves next Year then? the intervention would start next year then?

No I think the intervention will start soon. Then after a few months, the rebels will win. Then we will need to proceed to send our troops in to "secure the chemical weapons" from the very people we were helping. That should be around March.

[S.Shorland]

The Muslims believe they will make an alliance with 'Rum' (pronounced room) and that is likely Russia.I think events are going that way because the Russians must SURELY? know that America will not stop until they believe they rule the World.So it's fight while you're strong or wait until America has encircled you and starves you of resources.

[presence]

"If the U.S. goes in and attacks another country, without a U.N. mandate and without clear evidence that can be presented," the president told CNN, "then there are questions in terms of whether international law supports it -- 'do we have the coalition to make it work?' Those are considerations that we have to take into account."

Amid this discussion of UN mandates, international law and coalitions..... did he at all consider, mention, or pay tribute to any kind of declaration of war by congress?

[DamianTV]

Does anyone else smell bullshit in their chemical weapon attack? Like US involvement in it? We use chemical weapons, blame it on them, invade, move on to next target.

[Cap]

On another thread, there were many RPF people supporting or not having a problem with sanctions against Iran. Just part of the political game. So I ask those people what is the difference here? Don't you see just a whiff of hypocrisy? An act of war is an act of war. How do you rationalize the difference?

[tod evans]

Amid this discussion of UN mandates, international law and coalitions..... did he at all consider, mention, or pay tribute to any kind of declaration of war by congress?

^^^^^^^^^^ This! ^^^^^^^^^^^^

[politics]

Does anyone else smell bullshit in their chemical weapon attack? Like US involvement in it? We use chemical weapons, blame it on them, invade, move on to next target.

A reporter called William Engdah is asking to look carefully to the evidence and the source of the news

http://rt.com/op-edge/syria-gas-attack-chemical-propaganda-796/


Al Arabiya, the origin of the story, is not a neutral in the Syrian conflict. It was set up in 2002 by the Saudi Royal Family in Dubai. It is majority-owned by the Saudi broadcaster, Middle East Broadcasting Center (MBC). Saudi Arabia is a major financial backer of the attempt to topple Syria’s government. That is a matter of record. So on first glance Saudi-owned media reporting such an inflammatory anti-Assad allegation might be taken with a dose of salt.

When we examine the printed content of their story, it gets more suspicious still. First they cite “activists at the Syrian Revolutionary Command Council said regime fighter planes were flying over the area after the bombardment, accusing the forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad of using chemical agents.” This is doubtful on many levels. First we can imagine that anti-government (unnamed) “activists” fighting Assad’s forces would not be exactly neutral.

The story gets even murkier. Further in the text of the article we read that the “Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said dozens of people were killed, including children, in fierce bombardment.” Now the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) has been the source of every news report negative against the Syrian Assad government since the war began in 2011. More curious about the humanitarian-sounding SOHR is the fact, as uncovered by investigative journalists, that it consists of a sole Syrian refugee who has lived in London for the past 13 years named Rami Abdul Rahman, a Syrian Sunni muslim who owns a clothing shop and is running a Twitter page from his home. Partly owing to a very friendly profile story on the BBC, he gained mainstream media credibility. He is anything but unbiased.

The other aspect of the suspicious reports is the “convenient” fact they coincide with the arrival two days earlier of an official UN weapons inspection team, allowed by the government, to investigate allegations of chemical weapons use in the Syrian war. It begs the most obvious question: What conceivably would Bashar al Assad stand to gain from using banned chemical weapons just at the time he has agreed to let a UN chemical weapons team into Syria?

[pcosmar]

Does anyone else smell bullshit in their chemical weapon attack? Like US involvement in it? We use chemical weapons, blame it on them, invade, move on to next target.

For quite some time. It has been clear that it was going to be used as an excuse.

And I have been having a bad feeling about September for some time.
for no reason that I can put to words. :(

[vita3]

Is Rand going to try & stop this madness or what?

[Cap]

Is Rand going to try & stop this madness or what?Great question, and if he doesn't where art thou allegiance?

[69360]

On another thread, there were many RPF people supporting or not having a problem with sanctions against Iran. Just part of the political game. So I ask those people what is the difference here? Don't you see just a whiff of hypocrisy? An act of war is an act of war. How do you rationalize the difference?

Wrong, people don't have a problem with Rand not having a problem with sanctions. I don't like sanctions, but am ok with him voting for them, there are bigger fish to fry.

[pcosmar]

Wrong, people don't have a problem with Rand not having a problem with sanctions. I don't like sanctions, but am ok with him voting for them, there are bigger fish to fry.

Wrong.
You may not have a problem with it.
I do,, and many others did. It goes to principles.

Though it is likely irrelevant. The very few that would oppose it will be insignificant.

Just the fact that an announcement of ship movements is made,, is proof that (very stupid) decisions have already been made.

[AFPVet]

Amid this discussion of UN mandates, international law and coalitions..... did he at all consider, mention, or pay tribute to any kind of declaration of war by congress?

I know... I was pissed when he said "UN mandates"... does the UN tell you what to do? NO! The Constitution tells you what to do.

[Cap]

Wrong, people don't have a problem with Rand not having a problem with sanctions. I don't like sanctions, but am ok with him voting for them, there are bigger fish to fry.Cognitive dissonance much?

[Tywysog Cymru]

I'm almost always against sanctions, but there are some countries that we shouldn't trade with, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan maybe. Trade with Iran and Cuba I'm fine with.

But I oppose all offensive wars, there is a huge difference.

[Christian Liberty]

I'm almost always against sanctions, but there are some countries that we shouldn't trade with, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan maybe. Trade with Iran and Cuba I'm fine with.

But I oppose all offensive wars, there is a huge difference.

Putting sanctions on those countries only makes the people there suffer more. It doesn't hurt the leadership at all.

[kcchiefs6465]

I'm almost always against sanctions, but there are some countries that we shouldn't trade with, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan maybe. Trade with Iran and Cuba I'm fine with.

But I oppose all offensive wars, there is a huge difference.
It isn't that we refuse trade with other countries as much as it is that we freeze their assets and threaten other countries who wish to trade with them.

ETA: And people should be free to do business with whoever they want. Short of us being in a declared war with the country, that is.

[robert68]

I'm almost always against sanctions, but there are some countries that we shouldn't trade with, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Sudan maybe. Trade with Iran and Cuba I'm fine with.

But I oppose all offensive wars, there is a huge difference.
WRT the US, that's redundant.

[enhanced_deficit]

SWC Obama and Ted Cruz are on same side onthis issue?


In youtube search, came across nother vid where senator elect Cruz is getting briefed on Syrian chemeical weapons threat by Israeli PM:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9u1sLQRZuQ


On a different Syria threat note, this video where it seemed Obama was being threatened with assassination or it was being openly discussed by then Atlanta Jewish Times editor Andrew Adler for not doing enough on Syria/Iran threat to Israel:

Caution: shocking language
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXXT9cDDgLw&feature=player_detailpage#t=26s

He has resigned since but seems like he was pretty serious about Syria/Iran threats to Israel.

[bolil]

Might as well bomb 'em all while we're at it. We should declare war on the entire world.

FINALLY, a true american patriot! A fine thought comrade. We should pick one day every year where we bomb every country on earth, and then charge them the cost of the bombs.

Here is another way we could do it: We bomb one or two countries every year, and let the cast members of the Jersey Shore chuse that country by way of vote.

[jkob]

Is Rand going to try & stop this madness or what?

I'm going to be extremely disappointed if he doesn't

[Dr.3D]

FINALLY, a true american patriot! A fine thought comrade. We should pick one day every year where we bomb every country on earth, and then charge them the cost of the bombs.
First you give them money to buy weapons, then you bomb them and destroy those weapons, then finally, you give them aid to help them rebuild and then start the process all over again.

[Cap]

Supporting sanctions against Iran is and act of war. It is also the 900 lb. gorilla in the living room of the liberty movement's house. You can't have it both ways people. If you are against the endless un-declared wars, you lose credibility when on the other hand you turn a blind eye to politicians who support these sanctions on Iran. Just because there is less murder involved in one, there is still murder. And without a declaration of war, it is illegal. Sanctions are anti-liberty. Do you really want to lose your voice when it comes to liberty?

A very astute statement was made by cajuncocoa the other day in another thread. So much truth in that statement. Rand should take heed.


Eventually he will have to stand up to these idiots, or "we" will have won nothing.

[juleswin]

FINALLY, a true american patriot! A fine thought comrade. We should pick one day every year where we bomb every country on earth, and then charge them the cost of the bombs.

Here is another way we could do it: We bomb one or two countries every year, and let the cast members of the Jersey Shore chuse that country by way of vote.

Oh my, lets hope they're not one of those that think Africa is a country :)

[dillo]

This is not good, throwing US ships in the middle of a war and if they get hit the narrative will change to "THEY ATTACKED US"

[Tywysog Cymru]

Putting sanctions on those countries only makes the people there suffer more. It doesn't hurt the leadership at all.

Sanctions on South Africa caused the downfall of Apartheid without Americans firing a single shot at South Africans.


It isn't that we refuse trade with other countries as much as it is that we freeze their assets and threaten other countries who wish to trade with them.

ETA: And people should be free to do business with whoever they want. Short of us being in a declared war with the country, that is.

I don't think that we should threaten other nations, but I hardly see how it's an act of war. I don't support any sanctions against Iran, btw.

[kcchiefs6465]

I don't think that we should threaten other nations, but I hardly see how it's an act of war. I don't support any sanctions against Iran, btw.
We are impeding their ability to trade with nations who would otherwise trade with them.

Sure as shit, if any American was in Iran's shoes, they'd see it as an act of war. Us being the military giant that we are, they can't much do anything about it aside from grumbling under their breath. And even then we humiliate them every step of the way. It's kind of pathetic, really.

And that is even ignoring the idiocy of such a policy. Sanctions strengthen the government of the sanctioned. They rally around nationalistic rhetoric as we did after 9/11. It's foolish in that it doesn't weaken those we are aiming to weaken. It ensures their power. I have suspicions it is simply to keep the rhetoric flowing and the threat of war plausible. Otherwise how would they justify building planes and submarines the Air Force and Navy do not even want? The billions in waste goes somewhere. Lockheed Martin or otherwise, it needs to stop. Jobs creation my ass, they build destruction. They are such a drain on actual productivity I wouldn't know where to begin. Sanctions and the threat of war keeps their business booming, the leeches.

[Tywysog Cymru]

We are impeding their ability to trade with nations who would otherwise trade with them.

Sure as shit, if any American was in Iran's shoes, they'd see it as an act of war. Us being the military giant that we are, they can't much do anything about it aside from grumbling under their breath. And even then we humiliate them every step of the way. It's kind of pathetic, really.

And that is even ignoring the idiocy of such a policy. Sanctions strengthen the government of the sanctioned. They rally around nationalistic rhetoric as we did after 9/11. It's foolish in that it doesn't weaken those we are aiming to weaken. It ensures their power. I have suspicions it is simply to keep the rhetoric flowing and the threat of war plausible. Otherwise how would they justify building planes and submarines the Air Force and Navy do not even want? The billions in waste goes somewhere. Lockheed Martin or otherwise, it needs to stop. Jobs creation my ass, they build destruction. They are such a drain on actual productivity I wouldn't know where to begin. Sanctions and the threat of war keeps their business booming, the leeches.

What about in South Africa where 80%+ would never support their government as it had stripped them of all rights? I agree that it usually isn't a good idea, but in some situations it has worked for the better.

[kcchiefs6465]

What about in South Africa where 80%+ would never support their government as it had stripped them of all rights? I agree that it usually isn't a good idea, but in some situations it has worked for the better.
I'm not specifically familiar with South Africa and our policy towards them.

If people were starving, and the government controlled the food, and they could point to specific meddling and say these outsiders are the reason your babies are starving, I think even the most oppressed would ignore the chains under their rulers and become nationalistic to work towards the common cause. Of course we do fund groups of dissidents to create chaos, distribute propaganda and rise up around the world. We fund evil men to convince their fellow countrymen to stand with them. The ruler overthrown and even worse of a tyrant put in power. Not that that is what happened in South Africa, but there are countless examples from around the world.

The CIA needs defunded and dissolved. They cycle propaganda stories to outside newspapers which then come back here. If you watched the video of the Egyptians faking photographs of them being massacred, I'm sure we had a hand in it. They admitted to spreading propaganda to MSM sources during the Church Committee.

My point in saying that is that you can never truly know what you are being sold. This is why non-intervention is the best position there is. Whether it is the incubator babies and trained actresses of the '90s or yellowcake uranium not long ago, very rich and powerful men have the means to create illusions of atrocities. Billions of dollars are at stake. I'm sure you know this but am just reaffirming to those who don't. We need not get entangled in country's affairs. We have no way to know if we are backing the right groups and it almost always backfires on us. Then the people of that country blame us and we are attacked because of it. It is a failed foreign policy. Sanctions are just one aspect of that and certainly don't limit the chances of it turning into a "hot" conflict. Not to mention I am opposed to innocent civilians being killed in any instance.

[Tywysog Cymru]

I'm not specifically familiar with South Africa and our policy towards them.

From 1948-1994. The White minority controlled everything in the nation, the military, the police, the economy, the government. It was like segregation in the US on steroids, blacks were deprived of citizenship IIRC. I know someone who had been to SA before 1990 and he said that he stayed with people who owned a banana plantation that employed many black laborers. There were limits on how much he was allowed to pay his workers (and he payed maximum). It was out of control. The US put sanctions on the nation in 1986 and in 1990 Nelson Mandela was freed from prison and President De Klerk negotiated the end of Apartheid.

A great movie about South Africa and race issues right after the end of Apartheid is Invictus, a true story about the South African Rugby team.


If people were starving, and the government controlled the food, and they could point to specific meddling and say these outsiders are the reason your babies are starving, I think even the most oppressed would ignore the chains under their rulers and become nationalistic to work towards the common cause. Of course we do fund groups of dissidents to create chaos, distribute propaganda and rise up around the world. We fund evil men to convince their fellow countrymen to stand with them. The ruler overthrown and even worse of a tyrant put in power. Not that that is what happened in South Africa, but there are countless examples from around the world.

The CIA needs defunded and dissolved. They cycle propaganda stories to outside newspapers which then come back here. If you watched the video of the Egyptians faking photographs of them being massacred, I'm sure we had a hand in it. They admitted to spreading propaganda to MSM sources during the Church Committee.

My point in saying that is that you can never truly know what you are being sold. This is why non-intervention is the best position there is. Whether it is the incubator babies and trained actresses of the '90s or yellowcake uranium not long ago, very rich and powerful men have the means to create illusions of atrocities. Billions of dollars are at stake. I'm sure you know this but am just reaffirming to those who don't. We need not get entangled in country's affairs. We have no way to know if we are backing the right groups and it almost always backfires on us. Then the people of that country blame us and we are attacked because of it. It is a failed foreign policy. Sanctions are just one aspect of that and certainly don't limit the chances of it turning into a "hot" conflict. Not to mention I am opposed to innocent civilians being killed in any instance.

I said that I almost always oppose sanctions, and I agree for the most part. I am uncompromising when it comes to wars other than in self-defense.

[vita3]

If Rand wants to become President in 2016 he needs to show people he is giving everything he has to STOP the out of control foreign war policy.

Drone talk/awareness was really nice, stopping this unnecessary war is bigger.

[RonPaulMall]

What about in South Africa where 80%+ would never support their government as it had stripped them of all rights? I agree that it usually isn't a good idea, but in some situations it has worked for the better.

If you don't want to do business with the government of a particular country, you are free to make that moral choice. But neither you nor anyone else has the right to tell me who I can or can not conduct a voluntary business transaction with. Sanctions are an act of war at the international level, and on a domestic level, an act of tyranny against the citizens of the very country that is imposing the sanctions. They are morally evil in all situations- no exceptions.

[Tywysog Cymru]

If you don't want to do business with the government of a particular country, you are free to make that moral choice. But neither you nor anyone else has the right to tell me who I can or can not conduct a voluntary business transaction with. Sanctions are an act of war at the international level, and on a domestic level, an act of tyranny against the citizens of the very country that is imposing the sanctions. They are morally evil in all situations- no exceptions.

I fail to see the act of war in it as sanctions don't kill people.

[kcchiefs6465]

I fail to see the act of war in it as sanctions don't kill people.
Tell that to the 500,000 or so dead Iraqis.

Directly, no, they don't.

Indirectly, yes, they do.

[HOLLYWOOD]

If anyone interested(RECOMMENDED the MOVIE) in a little musical connection between the US & the struggle of Apartheid South Africa: http://www.sugarman.org/

The movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2125608/

Searching for Sugar Man


BTW, on US sanctions listen to Madeline Zionist Albright's... "Collateral Damage"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ4o

[angelatc]

You think they're aiming for the terrorists, an aspirin factory, or those weapons they might have lost out of Libya with the current government's knowledge? Or, are we talking about them preparing for a possible strike against the government?

My guess is that they're aiming for Iran.

[alucard13mm]

If Rand made a move on this and publicly denounce his fellow senators and Obama... he will have so much support from people. A lot of people, even on liberal media sites are starting to change their view and do not want to get dragged into Syria.

[bolil]

I had some hipster try to tell me that drone strikes are not a form of military intervention. You can't argue with that brand, just can't do it. Lets not make every thread about Rand until he actually runs.

Can anyone here, preferably with strategic experience, tell me why the Syrian establishment would use chemical weapons that risk the outcome of a conflict they are currently winning?

Anyone tell me that?

The Syrian Strife is about to go international, I am afraid.

[kcchiefs6465]

Can anyone here, preferably with strategic experience, tell me why the Syrian establishment would use chemical weapons that risk the outcome of a conflict they are currently winning?
You do not need to be a military strategist to see how much sense it does not make.

[Peace Piper]

Reminder of what the last Secretary of State (the "Chief Diplomat" of the United States)
thinks of Murder on the side of the road:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU

Our Current Secretary of State (the "Chief Diplomat" of the United States)
wants to build a "New World Order".
That's what he said during his confirmation hearings.


Direct Quote: "Never before has a New World Order had to be assembled
from so many different perceptions or on so global a scale"--John F. Kerry at Confirmation

What the hell is he talking about? Why won't anyone ask? It might be important enough to tell the citizens? nah. They'll roll over just like before. No one paid any consequences for Libya, in fact US Corporations have already started to reap the rewards.


Kerry @ 1:03


www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBSJvtkPICM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBSJvtkPICM?t=1m3s


It's all detailed here, 14 years ago

Backing up Globalization with Military Might
http://www.globalissues.org/article/448/backing-up-globalization-with-military-might


Corporations will stop at nothing

To achieve maximum profits these transnationals will stop at nothing. After all, they are non-human institutions that must expand through ever-greater profits, or go out of business. In so doing they have shown willingness to violate human rights-particularly workers' rights—to throw millions out of work, eliminate unions, use sweat-shops and slave labor, destroy the environment, destabilize governments, install or bolster tyrants who oppress, repress, torture and kill with impunity...
MORE

http://cdn.ph.upi.com/sv/upi/UPI-48431297786982/2011/1/a57b0587a89789e3f80ad94919124d54/Source-admits-he-lied-about-Iraqi-WMD-info.jpg

It's not like the Citizens have been lied to before. They just can't get enough! Assad gassed "his own people"!!!

[politics]

I found in Dailypaul http://www.dailypaul.com/296839/obama-and-cameron-agree-on-syrian-military-strike

that according to The Mirror in the UK, there Is a Britain US agreement about Syria

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/syria-cameron-obama-agree-military-2218347?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


David Cameron and Barack Obama last night agreed to take military action against Syria, the Sunday People has reported.

The US president sealed the deal in a 40-minute phone call to the Prime Minister at his holiday retreat in Cornwall.

The two leaders agreed that Syrian tyrant Bashar al-Assad was responsible for using chemical weapons against children.

Mr Obama and Mr Cameron will discuss the military options in the next few days.

They include missile strikes, *disabling the Syrian air force or *enforcing a no-fly zone across the country. A No.10 source said: “The significant use of chemical weapons would merit a serious response.

“The PM and the President are now looking at all the options.”

But they ruled out sending in British and American ground troops.

The source said both leaders *believe President Assad is deliberately trying to cover up the atrocity in the eastern suburbs of the capital Damascus on Wednesday that left up to 1,000 dead.

[politics]

The AFP reports that Iranian President said yesterday that
"totally and vigorously condemned the use of chemical weapons" "The situation prevailing in Syria today and the death of a certan number of innocent people caused by chemical weapons is very distressing,"

http://www.afp.com/en/node/1051703

[klamath]

if Sanctions are an act of war then we are justified in attacking the middle east because they imposed an embargo on us. People throw this act of war shit around but if it really is an act or war then any military response is justified.

Yep I can just hear it now. "Yeaw man they put an embargo on us, we have the RIGHT to seize those oil fields!"

[Cap]

if Sanctions are an act of war then we are justified in attacking the middle east because they imposed an embargo on us. People throw this act of war shit around but if it really is an act or war then any military response is justified.

Yep I can just hear it now. "Yeaw man they put an embargo on us, we have the RIGHT to seize those oil fields!"Then you disagree with Ron I take it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=vIO-4v8qpYc

[Seraphim]

You serious?

When you block the flow of goods through a country - that is WAR.

You're telling me that if someone stationed themselves outside of your house and blocked you from getting the food you need - you would take that as anything short of them waging war on you?

Come on now.


if Sanctions are an act of war then we are justified in attacking the middle east because they imposed an embargo on us. People throw this act of war shit around but if it really is an act or war then any military response is justified.

Yep I can just hear it now. "Yeaw man they put an embargo on us, we have the RIGHT to seize those oil fields!"

[klamath]

Then you disagree with Ron I take it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vIO-4v8qpYc
I do. He is NOT a God.

[klamath]

You serious?

When you block the flow of goods through a country - that is WAR.

You're telling me that if someone stationed themselves outside of your house and blocked you from getting the food you need - you would take that as anything short of them waging war on you?

Come on now.
That is NOT sanctions that is a blockade. A blockade IS an act of war. Did we have the right to seize the oil fields?

[juleswin]

I do. He is NOT a God.

I think when Ron Paul is talking about Sanctions, he is talking about blockages instead of mere boycotts. Ships carrying good to these countries are actually seized by govt imposing sanctions, bank accounts and property are confiscated. Boycotts are not acts of war but blockades the kind we impose of these countries is an act of war

[klamath]

I think when Ron Paul is talking about Sanctions, he is talking about blockages instead of mere boycotts. Ships carrying good to these countries are actually seized by govt imposing sanctions, bank accounts and property are confiscated. Boycotts are not acts of war but blockades the kind we impose of these countries is an act of warIf you can show me where ships from a neutral country heading toward iran are being seized in international waters then yes that has crossed over into a blockade and is an act of war.

[Cap]

I do. He is NOT a God.Glad you cleared that up for us.

[juleswin]

If you can show me where ships from a neutral country heading toward iran are being seized in international waters then yes that has crossed over into a blockade and is an act of war.

Last month a North Korean ship was seized in international waters I think on its way to Cuba. But I can tell you that bank accounts have been seized, property confiscated etc etc and that to me is an act of war

[Cap]

I think when Ron Paul is talking about Sanctions, he is talking about blockages instead of mere boycotts. Ships carrying good to these countries are actually seized by govt imposing sanctions, bank accounts and property are confiscated. Boycotts are not acts of war but blockades the kind we impose of these countries is an act of warEither you are prevaricating or you simply didn't watch the video. Ron specifically refered to the sanctions vote on Iran.

[klamath]

Last month a North Korean ship was seized in international waters I think on its way to Cuba. But I can tell you that bank accounts have been seized, property confiscated etc etc and that to me is an act of war
It depends if you kept the money in your adversaries banks. That would be just stupid. We are in a state of war with north Korea and have been since the Korean war. A peace treaty was never signed.

[Cap]

In their early days, sanctions on other countries could be bypassed. They were weak. Nowadays, the U.S. has invented ways to strengthen them so that they kill indirectly. The sanctions on Iran are extensive (http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS20871.pdf) and they are biting. As the entire economy becomes affected, unless Iran finds ways to bypass the sanctions, wealth and wealth generation decline. Health then declines due to the sanctions. People die due to the sanctions. A report out of Iran suggests that hemophiliacs are now endangered (http://www.tehrantimes.com/politics/100481-us-eu-sanctions-have-endangered-lives-of-iranian-patients-iranian-hemophilia-society).

http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/u-s-sanctions-on-iran-are-killing/

[Lucille]

What's that old saying? If you want support for a war, start one.

60% Of Americans Oppose US Involvement In Syria, Only 9% Support Military Action
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-25/60-americans-oppose-us-involvement-syria-only-9-support-military-action


If Obama was betting on a "rally 'round the flag" effect ahead of the US attack of Syria as a result on an endless chain of false flag-based interventions in the middle east which started with Colin Powell's lies to the UN, and has never ended, he appears to have completed his latest epic foreign policy blunder and miscalculation. As Reuters reports, Americans strongly oppose U.S. intervention in Syria's civil war and believe Washington should stay out of the conflict even if reports that Syria's government used deadly chemicals to attack civilians are confirmed, a Reuters/Ipsos poll says. About 60 percent of Americans surveyed said the United States should not intervene in Syria's civil war, while just 9 percent thought President Barack Obama should act.

Of course, since the US intervention is fundamentally not about any pretense of humanitarian intervention, and not even about laundering money to the Military Industrial Complex, but all about boosting defense spending and allowing the Fed to monetize more securities when it comes time to untaper, the public opinion is the last thing on Obama's mind who will do whatever Bernanke's superiors (i.e., the banker oligarchy) tell him to do...

[Lucille]

Because the Empire can't have the truth coming out (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/uns-carla-del-ponte-says-there-is-evidence-rebels-may-have-used-sarin-in-syria-8604920.html).

Syria To Allow Inspection Of Alleged Chemical Weapons Attack; US Rebuffs, Says "Too Late'
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-25/syria-allow-inspection-alleged-chemical-weapons-attack-us-says-too-late

The neo-Trots can check another one off the list.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

[green73]

WH Official: 'Very Little Doubt' Assad Regime Behind Chemical Attack... (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/08/senior-administration-official-very-little-doubt-assad-regime-behind-alleged-chemical-attack/)
Sets Stage for Bigger Role... (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323407104579034633663263254.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories)
Sharp Shift in Tone... (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/26/world/middleeast/syria-says-un-will-get-access-to-site-of-possible-chemical-attack.html?hp)
Syria Agrees to UN Inspection... (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323407104579034633663263254.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories)
HAGEL: US PREPARED FOR 'ALL CONTINGENCIES'... (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/25/us-naval-forces-move-closer-to-syria-hagel-suggests/)
Iran warns 'harsh consequences'... (http://www.france24.com/en/20130825-iran-army-warns-us-harsh-consequences-over-syria)
Chemical attack evidence 'may have been destroyed'... (http://www.france24.com/en/20130825-syria-chemical-attack-evidence-may-have-been-destroyed-hague)
Russia Warns Not to Repeat Past Mistakes... (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/25/us-syria-crisis-us-russia-idUSBRE97O09W20130825)
Iraq-style 'adventure'... (http://www.france24.com/en/20130825-moscow-warns-against-iraq-style-adventure-syria)


https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwc5dJRM5MR_hN9DilwBRrATZbkUhCu j2Rdi0NEx_j_UOZFnP80Q
BOMBING 'IN DAYS' (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10265765/Navy-ready-to-launch-first-strike-on-Syria.html) http://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif (http://www.drudgereport.com/)

[robert68]

If you can show me where ships from a neutral country heading toward iran are being seized in international waters then yes that has crossed over into a blockade and is an act of war.

It does the same thing when the US bribes and arm twists (which it always does) members of the UN Security Council to pass sanctions resolutions against a country.

[politics]

So, if its too late, it is because the own UN team had some kind logistic issues to go there earlier



The team was set to embark Monday on the two-week trip to investigate alleged chemical strikes at three locations in the war-torn country.

The sources said the team, headed by Swedish professor Ake Sellstrom, was facing some "technical hitches and would rather postpone the visit to Damascus for a while."

Sellstrom, a former U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq, was supposed to lead a team of about 10 experts from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) and the World Health Organization.

"They will notify the Syrians when they are ready to head to the country," one source said on condition his name would not be used"

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57598025/u.n-chemical-weapons-experts-postpone-trip-to-syria/

[torchbearer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuUBCF3KKxc

[pcosmar]

It depends if you kept the money in your adversaries banks. That would be just stupid. We are in a state of war with north Korea and have been since the Korean war. A peace treaty was never signed.

Did Congress declare war?
I was under the impression that was a UN Police Action.

[presence]

Did Congress declare war?
I was under the impression that was a UN Police Action.

No... we just have anonymous senior official hearsay




Senior Administration Official: ‘Very Little Doubt’http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/08/senior-administration-official-very-little-doubt-assad-regime-behind-alleged-chemical-attack/

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No... we just have anonymous senior official hearsay

Was replying to a comment about the Korean Conflict.

But I do not expect a declaration of war in Syria either,,

They haven't declared war on anyone lately.