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green73
08-22-2013, 08:35 AM
A group of veteran security experts and former White House officials has been selected to conduct a full review of U.S. surveillance programs and other secret government efforts disclosed over recent months, ABC News has learned.

The recent acting head of the CIA, Michael Morell, will be among what President Obama called a “high-level group of outside experts” scrutinizing the controversial programs.

Joining Morell on the panel will be former White House officials Richard Clarke, Cass Sunstein and Peter Swire. An announcement is expected Thursday, a source with knowledge of the matter told ABC News’ Jon Karl.

The group will “consider how we can maintain the trust of the people [and] how we can make sure that there absolutely is no abuse,” President Obama said two weeks ago when announcing the group’s formation, without identifying who would be on the panel.

The identities of the panelists have been a topic of speculation online, raising questions over whether the group would truly be independent in its review. The White House has insisted the group has full independence.

The president made clear that — in addition to looking at potential abuses by the program — the group will also assess whether the U.S. government “appropriately” accounts for “insider threats” and unauthorized disclosures.

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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/08/white-house-picks-panel-to-review-nsa-programs/

Greenwald in 2010:


Cass Sunstein has long been one of Barack Obama’s closest confidants. Often mentioned as a likely Obama nominee to the Supreme Court, Sunstein is currently Obama’s head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs where, among other things, he is responsible for “overseeing policies relating to privacy, information quality, and statistical programs.” In 2008, while at Harvard Law School, Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-”independent” advocates to “cognitively infiltrate” online groups and websites — as well as other activist groups — which advocate views that Sunstein deems “false conspiracy theories” about the Government. This would be designed to increase citizens’ faith in government officials and undermine the credibility of conspiracists. The paper’s abstract can be read, and the full paper downloaded, here.

Sunstein advocates that the Government’s stealth infiltration should be accomplished by sending covert agents into “chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups.” He also proposes that the Government make secret payments to so-called “independent” credible voices to bolster the Government’s messaging (on the ground that those who don’t believe government sources will be more inclined to listen to those who appear independent while secretly acting on behalf of the Government). This program would target those advocating false “conspiracy theories,” which they define to mean: “an attempt to explain an event or practice by reference to the machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal their role.” Sunstein’s 2008 paper was flagged by this blogger, and then amplified in an excellent report by Raw Story‘s Daniel Tencer.


cont
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

Can you identify the cognitive infiltrators here?

VBRonPaulFan
08-22-2013, 09:07 AM
cont
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/08/white-house-picks-panel-to-review-nsa-programs/

Greenwald in 2010:



cont
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

Can you identify the cognitive infiltrators here?

Welp, we just pegged Zippy and Jordan :D

j/k. or AM I?!

ClydeCoulter
08-22-2013, 09:09 AM
"We will appoint a committee of foxes to determine the best way to oversee the foxes that seem to have subverted the laws that protect the hen house"


edit:

Boobus: Huh? You lost me about half way through that.
Caesar: I know.

VoluntaryAmerican
08-22-2013, 09:13 AM
This appointment should only make honest hardworking Americans even more terrified, but they are too ignorant to know this man's agenda of Constitutional revisionism.

Thor
08-22-2013, 12:13 PM
"After a thorough investigation, we found that officers followed protocol and there was no wrong doing."

puppetmaster
08-22-2013, 12:33 PM
After careful consideration, we have determined that we will not make a determination to this matter as this non determination is vital to american interests and national security.

Obama says "hey by the time they finish reading this bull shit the football season will start and no one will give a fuck...right Cass?

twomp
08-22-2013, 12:34 PM
If Obama really wanted America's trust back, he would appoint Glenn Greenwald to the NSA review panel.

Austrian Econ Disciple
08-22-2013, 12:38 PM
This has two main objectives:

1) Whitewash and absolve
2) the group will also assess whether the U.S. government “appropriately” accounts for “insider threats” and unauthorized disclosures

^ Crackdown on whistleblowers, once again.

muh_roads
08-22-2013, 12:39 PM
If Obama really wanted America's trust back, he would appoint Glenn Greenwald to the NSA review panel.

lol, THIS!

thoughtomator
08-22-2013, 12:44 PM
It's like appointing Mengele to a medical ethics board.

jllundqu
08-22-2013, 01:40 PM
He can "Nudge" the NSA all he wants, now.

This sickens me.

buck000
08-22-2013, 03:59 PM
Isn't having Richard Clarke on the panel a Good Thing (as these things go)?

roho76
08-22-2013, 04:19 PM
Man, this guy is amazing individual. There's no position this guy can't be appointed to. Get an empty spot that needs filled? Throw this moron in there.

Lucille
08-26-2013, 10:09 AM
Who better than O Duce's favorite propagandist and paternalistic nudger (http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/white-house-behavioral-insights-team-will-perform-psyops-on-the-public/) (who's also married to one of the three Witches of MacBeth (http://www.johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/RadioDerb/2013-06-08.html).)

Guest Post: Obama Picks Cass Sunstein (America’s Goebbels?) To Serve On NSA Oversight Panel
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-25/obama-picks-cass-sunstein-america%E2%80%99s-joseph-goebbles-serve-nsa-oversight-panel


Only under the Obama Presidency, in which every appointment, minor or major, is handed only to the most corrupt, devious crony to be found, can a man like Cass Sunstein be appointed to serve on the NSA oversight panel. Cass is a noted propagandist, who has advocated that government agents should infiltrate groups and discussions that push “conspiracy theories” (read my article on how to know if you are a conspiracy theorist) in order to delegitimize them. But don’t take my word for it. The Washington Post wrote the following a couple of days ago:


The Obama administration is reportedly proposing Cass Sunstein as a member of a panel to review the surveillance practices of the National Security Agency (NSA), among other former White House and intelligence staffers. Sunstein was the head of the White House’s Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs until last year, when he returned to teaching at Harvard Law School.

While at Harvard in 2008, Sunstein co-authored a working paper that suggests government agents or their allies “cognitively infiltrate” conspiracy theorist groups by joining ”chat rooms, online social networks or even real-space groups” and influencing the conversation.

The paper also suggests that the government “formally hire credible private parties to engage in counterspeech.” That sounds an awful lot like the 50 Cent Party of online commentators who are paid per comment by the Chinese communist party to sway public opinion.

This is a great time to watch one of my favorite We are Change videos. The one where Luke Rudkowski corners Sunstein and he tried to squirm away. Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OIiOztc52g&feature=player_embedded

Yes, Black Is the New ‘Transparency’
… And Cass Sunstein is on the NSA "review board"
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/08/22/yes-black-is-the-new-transparency/


...At his press conference promising to "reform" the spying machinery, President Obama announced a "review board" to be appointed that would supposedly reassure his critics there really is no domestic spying program: the goal, as he put it, would be to strike a "balance" between civil liberties and the safety of all Americans. A week or so later he made some appointments to this panel: former Counter-Terrorism Czar Richard Clarke, former special assistant for economic policy Peter Swire, former CIA Deputy Director Mike Morrell – and Cass Sunstein, a very close friend and confidant of the President. Sunstein formerly headed up the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs: now a Harvard law professor, he has made something of a name for himself as an outspoken advocate of government spying. Being one of those really highbrow types, he calls it "cognitive infiltration." Sunstein wants paid government agents to penetrate ostensibly subversive “conspiracy minded” social networks: in other words, he wants to set up a police state system of government spies and provocateurs.

Sunstein is a singular figure: no one else in government (or academia, as far as I know) has pushed for measures so openly totalitarian in their implications. Here is part of the summary of an academic paper Sunstein published in 2008:

"Many millions of people hold conspiracy theories; they believe that powerful people have worked together in order to withhold the truth about some important practice or some terrible event."

What person in their right mind could possibly believe that powerful people are working together to withhold the truth about some important practice? Oh, wait! Isn’t that what the Snowden revelations have proved beyond what any "conspiracy theorist" I know of ever asserted? Thanks to the Snowden "leaks" we now know that is precisely what’s been happening.
[...]
"Among the things it can do, what should it do? We can readily imagine a series of possible responses. (1) Government might ban conspiracy theorizing. (2) Government might impose some kind of tax, financial or otherwise, on those who disseminate such theories. (3) Government might itself engage in counterspeech, marshaling arguments to discredit conspiracy theories. (4) Government might formally hire credible private parties to engage in counterspeech. (5) Government might engage in informal communication with such parties, encouraging them to help. Each instrument has a distinctive set of potential effects, or costs and benefits, and each will have a place under imaginable conditions. However, our main policy idea is that government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories, which involves a mix of (3), (4) and (5)."

In Sunstein’s world, censorship is just another option, but "cognitive infiltration" of targeted groups – and the public square at large – by paid "credible" government covert agents on the Internet is definitely on the table. This is the person the President is appointing to his NSA review board, a body set up to reassure us that there’s no reason to fear for our privacy and that Big Brother isn’t watching us...


Welp, we just pegged Zippy and Jordan :D

j/k. or AM I?!

Zippyjuan told me he doesn't even know who Sunstein is (which seems to be the one and only thing he doesn't know).

enhanced_deficit
08-26-2013, 11:25 AM
Since learning high pedigree of their son from his wife Smantha Power, I has elevated my opinion of him and see him fit for this job.

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/hd/sunstein-power-3-1008-lg.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=smantha%20power%20wedding%20cas&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=qJrLd6pbg6VLEM&tbnid=pihRjGD1M4Cl0M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.esquire.com%2Ffeatures%2Ffun-couple-21st-century-1008&ei=Yo4bUrmBBKGr2QX5sYGYDg&bvm=bv.51156542,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNGpCrsMczBiT55FDRGsffniNRxqwg&ust=1377624028666610)




Samantha Powers claims her son is descendant of 18th century holy tribes


She should be ok for UN post that Obama put her at.

http://forward.com/articles/178608/for-samantha-power-support-for-israel-is-deeply-pe/

seyferjm
08-26-2013, 11:32 AM
Cass Sunstein is a crackpot. Him and Samantha Power are a very fitting couple.

Lucille
08-26-2013, 04:58 PM
BanZai7's WoRLD oF CoNSPiRaCY 3.0
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-08-26/banzai7s-world-conspiracy-30



Following the announcement of Thoughtstapo Captain Major Cass Sunstein's appointment to Jim Crapper's Magical Mystery NSA Tour,

I thought it would be appropriate to release an annual update of Banzai7's WoRLD oF CoNSpIRACY...

Infiltrate these thoughts Sunstein!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3763/9597866606_1ecac90092_b.jpg

LOL

torchbearer
08-26-2013, 05:04 PM
BanZai7's WoRLD oF CoNSPiRaCY 3.0
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-08-26/banzai7s-world-conspiracy-30



LOL

I'm not seeing the reptilians anywhere. nice.
we are still hidden.