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enhanced_deficit
08-19-2013, 11:29 AM
among militray families and communities.

High human cost on top of $Trillions debt for future generations from neocons blunders of using military force for spreading equality, freedom around the world using false WMD/freedom claims.

Divorce Rate Among Afghanistan, Iraq War Vets Increases by 42 Percent

January 2, 2012|4:29 pm
The divorce rate among military couples has increased 42 percent throughout the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, a recent study shows, adding to the woes of U.S. military veterans returning from the Middle East who already have to tackle war-related problems like post-traumatic stress disorder and high unemployment rates.

http://global.christianpost.com/news/divorce-rate-among-afghanistan-iraq-war-vets-hits-42-percent-66195/ (http://global.christianpost.com/news/divorce-rate-among-afghanistan-iraq-war-vets-hits-42-percent-66195/#aQMQHW48ebG65LZ5.99)


Military divorce rate increased as families struggle to heal - Kerr ... (http://www.khcgalvestonfamilylaw.com/blog/2013/07/military-divorce-rate-increased-as-families-struggle-to-heal.shtml)
Jul 9, 2013 -Approximately 38 percent of military marriages fail within six months of a veteran returning from a deployment.


The toll of war now includes more amputees - CNN.com (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2012%2F05%2F27%2Fus %2Famputee-veterans-come-home&ei=_04SUtvIGqX52AXquoCwDg&usg=AFQjCNH6mnT-b4TmCIdCRBJFyJFjMmfDbA&bvm=bv.50768961,d.eWU)

Oct 29, 2012 - More than 624,000 veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan have filed disability claims, Military Times reported in January.... met with Army Staff Sgt. Travis Mills, who lost his four limbs in a similar way.


Foreclosures in Military Towns Surge at Four Times U.S. Rate ... (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=awj2TMDLnwsU)

Foreclosure filings in 10 towns and cities within 10 miles of military facilities, including Norfolk, Virginia, home of the Navy's largest base, rose ...

Record Foreclosures Strike Military at Home - Total Bankruptcy (http://www.totalbankruptcy.com/news/articles/statistics/military-foreclosure-rates.aspx)
The foreclosure crisis hits military families hard at home while soldiers are ... But foreclosures in towns near military bases were up an average of 217 percent.

Suicide Rate Among Vets and Active Duty Military Jumps - Now 22 A Day (http://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2013/02/05/22-the-number-of-veterans-who-now-commit-suicide-every-day/)
www.forbes.com/.../22-the-number-of-veterans-who-now-com...‎ (http://www.forbes.com/.../22-the-number-of-veterans-who-now-com...%E2%80%8E)
Feb 5, 2013 - Veterans now commit suicide at the rate of 22 a day, or almost one an hour. Almost once an hour – every 65 minutes to be precise – a military veteran commits suicide, says a new investigation by the Department of Veterans Affairs.

aGameOfThrones
08-19-2013, 11:39 AM
Obama care will take care of them.

jkr
08-19-2013, 11:40 AM
SEE!
FREEDOM isn't FREE...HERE'S THE BILL!

NOW PAY UP!

AuH20
08-19-2013, 11:40 AM
Doesn't the military roughly 'cycle' through it's forces every 8 years? My marine friend told me this.

Anti Federalist
08-19-2013, 12:15 PM
Support the Troops.

jllundqu
08-19-2013, 12:17 PM
God damn depressing. That's alot of blood and tears spilt... on both sides.

heavenlyboy34
08-19-2013, 12:50 PM
:( I wonder what the figures are when British/etc troops are thrown in. /mass scale human tragedy

heavenlyboy34
08-19-2013, 12:51 PM
Support the Troops.
They're being blown up for your Freedomz.

enhanced_deficit
08-19-2013, 01:38 PM
Suicide Rate Among Vets and Active Duty Military Jumps - Now 22 A Day (http://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2013/02/05/22-the-number-of-veterans-who-now-commit-suicide-every-day/)
www.forbes.com/.../22-the-number-of-veterans-who-now-com...‎ (http://www.forbes.com/.../22-the-number-of-veterans-who-now-com...%E2%80%8E)
Feb 5, 2013 - Veterans now commit suicide at the rate of 22 a day, or almost one an hour. Almost once an hour – every 65 minutes to be precise – a military veteran commits suicide, says a new investigation by the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Danke
08-19-2013, 01:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg&list=RD0201-2pNCZiNk

enhanced_deficit
08-19-2013, 07:07 PM
:( I wonder what the figures are when British/etc troops are thrown in. /mass scale human tragedy

Impact probably along same lines.

enhanced_deficit
08-23-2013, 11:20 PM
Doesn't the military roughly 'cycle' through it's forces every 8 years? My marine friend told me this.

Heard a Army supported ad on radio todaythat said;"7000 students drop out of high school every day..we are all concerned" and then "how can it be stopped" kind of message.

Was wondering why Army was sponsoring ad with shocking high school drop out stats in ad to educate people about this trend that "concerns us all". Have never heard an Army sposnored ad on radio/TV about high veteran suicide rate, military rapes and any of the other shocking stats as above that also "concern us all".

robert68
08-24-2013, 02:27 AM
Human cannon fodder.

FindLiberty
08-24-2013, 07:12 AM
http://display.didioffendyou.com/1/885503a8f7223507.jpg
God damn depressing. That's alot of blood and tears spilt... on both sides.

enhanced_deficit
08-24-2013, 11:04 AM
http://display.didioffendyou.com/1/885503a8f7223507.jpg

That sign would offend many people, not just pro war community. Can't believe this is being sold in America?

torchbearer
08-24-2013, 11:08 AM
That sign would offend many people, not just pro war community. Can't believe this is being sold in America?

it happens so often, another thing that is a casualty of war- these people's relationships and families suffer too. often with them losing them.
a guy i went to high school with was a front cover picture in some magazine regarding this topic.
here is an article on it: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2006/10/09/it-s-tearing-families-apart.html

enhanced_deficit
08-24-2013, 11:44 AM
it happens so often, another thing that is a casualty of war- these people's relationships and families suffer too. often with them losing them.
a guy i went to high school with was a front cover picture in some magazine regarding this topic.
here is an article on it: http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2006/10/09/it-s-tearing-families-apart.html

It is a sad situation.

Military divorce rate increased as families struggle to heal - Kerr ... (http://www.khcgalvestonfamilylaw.com/blog/2013/07/military-divorce-rate-increased-as-families-struggle-to-heal.shtml)

www.khcgalvestonfamilylaw.com/.../military-divorce-rate-increased-as-f...‎ (http://www.khcgalvestonfamilylaw.com/.../military-divorce-rate-increased-as-f...‎)

Jul 9, 2013 -Approximately 38 percent of military marriages fail within six months of a veteran returning from a deployment.




Something very odd showed when looking up current stats, increasing number of divorce attorneys seem to be "targetting" military families. Our "free market" has some strange facets:

http://www.reliabledivorce.com/images/military.gif (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=military+families+divorce+rate&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=W4IfYf0vIt2aEM&tbnid=9E_QEAv2aSVHjM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reliabledivorce.com%2Fmilitar y_divorce.htm&ei=U_AYUqjPNpLa9QTu14CgBw&bvm=bv.51156542,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNFKdff3HbSsqLb8YFWQM7NPymgpxg&ust=1377452167840646)

http://www.lawyers.com/%7E/media/Images/Item%20Images/Family%20Law/Divorce/military-divorce.ashx?w=250&h=167&as=1

http://www.jacksonvilledivorceattorneyblog.com/military%20family.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=military+families+divorce+rate&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=W4IfYf0vIt2aEM&tbnid=9E_QEAv2aSVHjM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jacksonvilledivorceattorneybl og.com%2F2012%2F04%2F&ei=H_AYUpHREo_m8QTumoGYCQ&bvm=bv.51156542,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNFKdff3HbSsqLb8YFWQM7NPymgpxg&ust=1377452167840646)





As for controversial anti war bumper stickers, following would make a better AW graphic with the right SWC wording:
http://ioneblackamericaweb.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/barack-obama-golfing-vacation-ap-8-12.jpg?w=630 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=obama%20golfing&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=XbaJIHuWUAX-BM&tbnid=vB0EwPwllcjQMM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblackamericaweb.com%2F155653%2Fob ama-tees-off-vineyard-vacation-at-golf-course%2F&ei=RPEYUueZHozU9QSn0IDwAw&bvm=bv.51156542,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNG7hOhf7A1gyLoZa_rc0KbW_rI3sA&ust=1377452710870802)

torchbearer
08-24-2013, 11:47 AM
Something very odd showed when looking up current stats, increasing number of divorce attorneys seem to be "targetting" military families. Our "free market" has some strange facets:

http://www.reliabledivorce.com/images/military.gif (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=military+families+divorce+rate&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=W4IfYf0vIt2aEM&tbnid=9E_QEAv2aSVHjM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reliabledivorce.com%2Fmilitar y_divorce.htm&ei=U_AYUqjPNpLa9QTu14CgBw&bvm=bv.51156542,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNFKdff3HbSsqLb8YFWQM7NPymgpxg&ust=1377452167840646)

without the demand, they'd just be wasting money advertising.
that ad doesn't create a divorce, the trauma's of war and separation from family do.

enhanced_deficit
08-24-2013, 11:59 AM
without the demand, they'd just be wasting money advertising.
that ad doesn't create a divorce, the trauma's of war and separation from family do.

True. Still it seems blunt even if they are catering to the community that has been the hardest hit with divorces.

enhanced_deficit
08-24-2013, 04:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg&list=RD0201-2pNCZiNk

Interesting.

enhanced_deficit
08-26-2013, 04:18 PM
Kerry didn't do much today.


New poll: Syria intervention even less popular than Congress (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/26/new-poll-syria-intervention-even-less-popular-than-congress/)
Washington Post55 minutes ago
Only 9 percent of respondents said that the Obama administration should intervene militarily in Syria; a RealClearPolitics poll average finds ...


Obama pressured to intervene in Syria. Most Americans say 'no ... (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2013/0825/Obama-pressured-to-intervene-in-Syria.-Most-Americans-say-no-says-poll-video)
Christian Science Monitor-Aug 25, 2013

youngbuck
08-26-2013, 05:11 PM
You'd have to almost be crazy to serve the empire as a soldier at this point. I know that's a very broad brush to paint with, but seriously, the sacrifices one makes to fight oversees for a corrupt regime are breath-, and all too often life-, taking.

torchbearer
08-26-2013, 05:29 PM
You'd have to almost be crazy to serve the empire as a soldier at this point. I know that's a very broad brush to paint with, but seriously, the sacrifices one makes to fight oversees for a corrupt regime are breath-, and all too often life-, taking.

the people I know who have joined where at a dead end in life.
That is why they always send the poor.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzd9KyIDrM

enhanced_deficit
08-27-2013, 12:47 AM
The video didn't play when I clicked.

enhanced_deficit
08-31-2013, 05:23 PM
Would it be good idea to send these stats to Congress members ahead of the Syria attack vote SWC Obama announced today?

If so, anyone knows of if any tax payers funded Congressional office website lists email addresses of all Congress members in one place?

Lucille
09-01-2013, 09:16 AM
The Abusive Army
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-abusive-army/


An Army officer’s wife writes to James Fallows to share some of the pain and frustration that military families endure, and have been enduring, and why the idea of going to war in Syria is so appalling to many of them. You really should read the whole thing. Here’s an excerpt:


As Mr. Russo acknowledged *WE* (service members and their family) are the ones who have “known war” but he seems to gloss over that *WE* are the ones who are actually putting lives on the line and families on the backburner to carry out this adventure. Mr. Russo’s initial statement was abrasive in that it echoes the acts (though not the words) of the President and Congress in ignoring the fact that the military members are living, breathing people with mortgages and babies and retirement dreams who have actually faced and continue to face REAL physical, psychological, financial, social and spiritual consequences for decisions exactly like this one.

Those who don’t follow the Army Times or have active involvement with the military can’t fully appreciate the feelings of frustration, disillusionment and despair that service members feel about everything that is going on, taken as a whole. To sum up everything that I am about to type below: “After everything you are putting us through, why should we go risk our lives for you AGAIN?”

1) We have been constantly at war for more than a decade. My own husband has been deployed seven times and is currently getting ready for his fifth trip to Afghanistan (three of his previous deployments were to Iraq). He is not alone (and, frankly, he’s one of the lucky ones who tends to have a year or more in between deployments.)

2) During the build up/surge, recruitment needs were such that standards dropped to serious lows. Waivers were granted willy-nilly. As a result, the service ended up with a lot of shiftless thugs who have now served long enough to be in leadership positions (or at least positions where they can be obstructionist and demoralizing).

3) The military does everything in its power to keep soldiers deployable, including ignoring injuries and mental health problems. Soldiers basically get two options: quit (and give up your years toward retirement so that you can go in an endless queue and hope that the VA processes your case and gives you treatment) or soldier on in pain.

Like I said, read the whole thing. The wife says that the Army is like an abusive parent: no matter how badly she treats her children, they still love her.

I would take that one step further. In a democracy, the Army is under control of the people. Ultimately it is we the people, through our elected representatives, who determine the fate of our soldiers. Maybe the Army is an abusive parent, but if you ask me, it’s the country — that is, it’s you and me and all of us who barely give a thought to what our service members and their families live with, and have been living with for a decade — who are the abusive parents.

True, nobody promised that signing up to be a soldier was going to be easy. But why do we have to make it so damn hard for our service members and their families? The idea that the Obama administration is planning merely to lob a few missiles at Assad, and not put boots on the ground, is a self-deception. As the anonymous Army officer’s wife writes:


Undeniably, any sort of military option in Syria exponentially increases the risk that we are going to have a prolonged or extended military action/presence there. The current administration (and Congress, to fairly share the blame) treats service members like disposable minions.

If that is true, then the blame devolves down to the American people. The president and the Congress wouldn’t do this if we refused to let them.

Yeah, the American people can stop them, just like we stopped the banksta bailout, the food "safety" bill, Barry's Big Fascist Medical System, etc.

enhanced_deficit
09-01-2013, 06:52 PM
How sad.

AngryCanadian
09-01-2013, 09:29 PM
Support the Troops.

Its SupportTheTroopsMonday Tweets :rolleyes:
Lets go to war to kill more civilians in the name of Peace and Freedom Scar/

enhanced_deficit
09-07-2013, 03:18 PM
That is why they always send the poor.


Palin sent her son in the war for iraqi WMDs search, she seems financially ok.
But many are from economicaly needy classes.

RJB
09-07-2013, 03:36 PM
Not only are women and children the only innocent victims of war. So are the 18 - twentysomething young men whose government takes advantage of the hormone surge in the name of patriotism. Great thread.

2young2vote
09-07-2013, 03:43 PM
You know whats interesting to me? I work with two young (less than 20) women who had boyfriends in the Military. Both of them wanted to get married before their BFs were deployed in Afghanistan. One of them actually did get married and the other decided to wait because her BF ended up not being deployed.

It sounds to me like those statistics are made from MANY young and naive people getting married for no other reason than they didn't want to wait.

To be honest though, the girl who did get married had dated her boyfriend for several years prior and I think they have a good chance of staying married. The other girl, though, I was about 100% sure would end up divorced and pregnant real quickly after she got married. I was actually relieved when she said she wasn't getting married because she's a really nice girl, just not that smart.

This entire situation makes me really upset at the Obamas and McCains of the world.

torchbearer
09-07-2013, 04:04 PM
Palin sent her son in the war for iraqi WMDs search, she seems financially ok.
But many are from economicaly needy classes.

yeah, and john kerry and mccain't.
but our military front line meat-grinder troops aren't senator's sons.

enhanced_deficit
09-11-2013, 03:28 PM
Good point, vast majority fall in that category.

enhanced_deficit
09-12-2013, 08:54 PM
This is odd, thought controversial SWC Allen West was on Fox news big pay roll:


EXCLUSIVE — HOA to Allen West: We’ll Take Your House, Unless You Pay up! (http://gossipextra.com/2013/09/06/allen-west-tea-party-lien-hoa-2940/)

Posted by Jose Lambiet , September 6, 2013

Former U.S. Rep. Allen West faced foreclosure in July when the HOA of his Weston development claimed he wasn’t paying maintenance fees (Special to Gossip Extra)

http://gossipextra.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/flag-exclusive1.pngAs a Tea Party (http://www.teapartypatriots.org/local/?gclid=COOT4-fOt7kCFfFj7AodQjYABw) favorite, former U. S. Rep. Allen West (http://gossipextra.com/2012/10/31/allen-west-wife-porn-letter-1971/)doesn’t care much for the government, and even less for taxes.
Apparently, Fox News Channel contributor West also has issues with the HOA of his development in Weston.
The Fountain Spring Homeowners Association filed liens against West and his wife, ex-Florida Atlantic University Trustee Angela West (http://gossipextra.com/2012/06/18/allen-west-house-palm-beach-gardens-1575/) four times — count’em, four! — in the past two years, records show.
Why?
The former U.S. Army lieutenant colonel’s not paying his maintenance fees for months at a time!
In July, the HOA filed a lawsuit to have the house sold on the courthouse steps but dismissed the foreclosure attempt after he paid up on Aug. 20.
West, who bought in the gate community in 2004 for $270,000, isn’t returning calls for comment.
Public records show his property is being assessed $390 in fees per quarter.
The HOA undertook foreclosure proceedings in July because West owed $964.50, including fees and penalties.
Because of re-districting, West, 52, moved to a rented house in Palm Beach Gardens (http://gossipextra.com/2012/06/18/allen-west-house-palm-beach-gardens-1575/) early last year so he could run for office in a mainly Republican area.
He campaigned for a territory that stretched from the north side of Palm Beach County to the Treasure Coast, and was beaten for the seat by Democrat Patrick Murphy.

http://gossipextra.com/2013/09/06/allen-west-tea-party-lien-hoa-2940/

enhanced_deficit
12-14-2013, 01:47 PM
SEE!
FREEDOM isn't FREE...HERE'S THE BILL!

NOW PAY UP!

Can't put price tag on freedom.

Brian4Liberty
12-14-2013, 02:40 PM
At least we now have freedom, peace, Democracy, tolerance and friends in Iraq and Afghanistan.

oyarde
12-14-2013, 06:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8C4AIFgUg&list=RD0201-2pNCZiNk

Yes , it is excellent . Really hits home with a cup of K Rat coffee , cigarette the smell of fresh Arty.

kcchiefs6465
08-09-2015, 03:07 AM
Bump.

enhanced_deficit
08-17-2015, 06:11 PM
At least we now have freedom, peace, Democracy, tolerance and friends in Iraq and Afghanistan.

That is why it is so important to "trust the President" when he wants to spread freedom abroad.

enhanced_deficit
04-19-2018, 05:09 PM
At least we now have freedom, peace, Democracy, tolerance and friends in Iraq and Afghanistan.


Iraqi Operational Freedom:

Over a million Americans gave lives/limbs/mental health for freedom of Iraq and today Iraq joined military campaign with America's foes Iran and Russia:

Iraq , Siding With U.S. Foes Russia and Iran, Bombs ISIS ‘Terrorist Death Machine’ in Syria,

By Tom O'Connor On 4/19/18

Iraq conducted rare airstrikes in neighboring Syria on Thursday, highlighting an alliance that may further threaten U.S. interests in the region.
On Thursday, the office of Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi announced in a statement that "our heroic armed forces carried out deadly airstrikes on Thursday against positions of ISIS terrorist gangs in Syria by the Iraqi border." Iraq has mostly defeated the jihadis at home with outside help from a U.S.-led coalition and Iran, and the strikes come after Abadi said last week he may intervene against ISIS in Syria, where the U.S. and Iran were at odds over a seven-year civil war.
Related: Iran warns of new ‘war’ as it boosts ties with Syria, Iraq (http://www.newsweek.com/iran-warns-new-war-it-boosts-ties-syria-iraq-and-lebanon-892127)and (http://www.newsweek.com/iran-warns-new-war-it-boosts-ties-syria-iraq-and-lebanon-892127) Lebanon (http://www.newsweek.com/iran-warns-new-war-it-boosts-ties-syria-iraq-and-lebanon-892127)
"The strikes against ISIS gangs were conducted due to the risk posed by these gangs against Iraqi territory, and demonstrates the increased capabilities of our valiant armed forces in the pursuit and elimination of terrorism," Abadi's office said in a statement sent to Newsweek.

http://www.newsweek.com/iraq-joins-us-russia-war-against-isis-syria-who-really-winning-893490





Afghan Enduring Freedom:

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