Obama math: under new Common Core, 3 x 4 = 11 [VIDEO]

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-math-under-common-core-3-x-4-151805230.html

Quick: what’s 3 x 4?

If you said 11 — or, hell, if you said 7, pi, or infinity squared — that’s just fine under the Common Core, the new national curriculum that the Obama administration will impose on American public school students this fall.

In a pretty amazing YouTube video, Amanda August, a curriculum coordinator in a suburb of Chicago called Grayslake, explains that getting the right answer in math just doesn’t matter as long as kids can explain the necessarily faulty reasoning they used to get to that wrong answer.

“Even if they said, ’3 x 4 was 11,’ if they were able to explain their reasoning and explain how they came up with their answer really in, umm, words and oral explanation, and they showed it in the picture but they just got the final number wrong, we’re really more focused on the how,” August says in the video.

When someone in the audience (presumably a parent, but it’s not certain) asks if teachers will be, you know, correcting students who don’t know rudimentary arithmetic instantly, August makes another meandering, longwinded statement.

“We want our students to compute correctly but the emphasis is really moving more towards the explanation, and the how, and the why, and ‘can I really talk through the procedures that I went through to get this answer,’” August details. “And not just knowing that it’s 12, but why is it 12? How do I know that?”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW0VxxoCrNo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vetg7vWitTU

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[Ranger29860]

I think I know what she was getting at, not necessarily wrong just very poorly explained. If a student gets an answer wrong they want to have the student explain to the teachers their reasoning so that teachers can fully understand why a student is getting the wrong answer. This would allow a more tailored individual approach for corrections versus the response I mostly got in school which was go read the book again followed by the teacher going back to just ignoring everyone.

[willwash]

Sickening. We saw this same thing a few years ago when "word study" replaced spelling. Gone are the dreaded spelling tests we all remember (and studied for!). If yoo can look at a picter of a bisicl, and ididify it as such, then yoo get credt.

[FrankRep]

http://www.thenewamerican.com/media/k2/items/cache/468bbd4655747221b422536f70cd11bc_M.jpg (http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/16192-common-core-a-scheme-to-rewrite-education)


Common Core: A Scheme to Rewrite Education (http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/16192-common-core-a-scheme-to-rewrite-education)
08 August 2013


Common Core — new national education standards that the federal government is bribing and coercing states to adopt — will harm students, not benefit them.


Orwellian Nightmare: Data-mining Your Kids (http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/16193-orwellian-nightmare-data-mining-your-kids)
08 August 2013


Being implemented hand in hand with the new national curriculum standards being pushed on schools, called Common Core, is government surveillance of students.



Action - Stop Common Core in Your State!
https://www.votervoice.net/JBS/2/campaigns/32764/respond

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Ron Paul: 'Common Core' Nationalizes and Dumbs Down Public School Curriculum (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4so9LiFDzI)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4so9LiFDzI


Ben Swann Exposes Common Core Curriculum (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrpjiywhSQU)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrpjiywhSQU

[willwash]

Make no mistake. There is a progressive, systematic assault on education underway, the goal of which is twofold. First, declining performance justifies greater government interference to "fix" it, and secondly, the value of an ignorant, uneducated populace to a tyrannical government is self-evident.

[mad cow]

Because Eleven has Electrolytes.

[A Son of Liberty]

So this new way of teaching is the right way now, huh? I mean, finally they got it right. Teaching to the test (NCLB) didn't quite work out... open air classrooms didn't quite work out... But THIS!... This is going to work out! Trust us! No need to run it out against other methods of teaching in a free market of ideas! Our betters have finally figured out education.

I guess it's been too long since I thought this way, because for the life of me I can't figure out how people can think this way...

[nobody's_hero]

Sounds like they're training them to be politicians.

You don't have to have the right answer. You just have to be really good at bullshitting as to how you arrived at that answer.

[FrankRep]

1,500 rally against Common Core tests at Comsewogue High School (http://www.newsday.com/long-island/1-500-rally-against-common-core-tests-at-comsewogue-high-school-1.5910413)

News Day
August 17, 2013


http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.5910459.1376795676!/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/display_600/image.JPG (http://www.newsday.com/long-island/1-500-rally-against-common-core-tests-at-comsewogue-high-school-1.5910413)

[specsaregood]

This all sounds tailor made to piss off the smart kids that get the right answer; but don't show their work because, "what work? I did it in my head."

[FSP-Rebel]

This is great actually. By advocating for this they've activated so many new people to get involved in this fight and their smaller groups tend to gravitate and mesh with our established local C4Ls giving us added strength for our focused fights against spending, spying and medicaid expansion.

[MelissaWV]

Since this woman did such a shitty job of explaining, does she fail? She had an answer but she could not demonstrate the logic she used to arrive at it.

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I do agree that understanding the theories and practical origins of many things (especially math) is really important, but addition and multiplication? These are basic, intuitive things. You can slow down and make four groups of three shapes each, then show that if you count them up you have 12 shapes, but do you really need to do this every single time?

Proofs were done in MS and HS, and took forever, but they're probably the most important thing I learned in school. Part of the reason they made an impression was that you got to discover why and how formulae came to be, which made way more sense to me than just memorizing this plus that, squared, plus this over here, plus that, minus this, is this.

[FrankRep]

Since this woman did such a shitty job of explaining, does she fail? She had an answer but she could not demonstrate the logic she used to arrive at it.

If her actions advance the Agenda, she passes.

[nano1895]

I think I know what she was getting at, not necessarily wrong just very poorly explained. If a student gets an answer wrong they want to have the student explain to the teachers their reasoning so that teachers can fully understand why a student is getting the wrong answer. This would allow a more tailored individual approach for corrections versus the response I mostly got in school which was go read the book again followed by the teacher going back to just ignoring everyone.

That's what I got from this as well. Obviously it's important to get the right answer in the end, but in the case of helping students learn, HOW you get to the answer and understanding WHY that is the right answer will give students a foundation to solve further advanced and complex questions that can be applied in the real world.

[Paulbot99]

There is room for explanation, but not that much explanation. For this problem, I was taught to count the points on the 4 by 3's in this manner: 3, 6, 9, 12. When someone got the wrong answer, they were asked to do it again in a gentle manner.

More advanced arithmetic, however, I can see getting into more complex explanation.

[WM_in_MO]

In my college we had the option to get partial credit on wrong answers if we can explain why we are wrong.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

I understand the rationality behind looking at how a student arrived at their conclusion, even if the student's conclusion was incorrect. After all, what good is teaching multiplication if the student has only memorized their times tables without actually understanding why 2x2 = 4?

But that does not mean a student's incorrect response should be passed over just because they showed their work. Learn from the mistake and correct the mistake.

[malkusm]

This all sounds tailor made to piss off the smart kids that get the right answer; but don't show their work because, "what work? I did it in my head."

I actually had a teacher fail me on a second grade math test for exactly this reason. Didn't show my work, so I must have been cheating. Except, you know, she was right there in front of me as I took the test and I pretty much turned in every assignment 15 minutes ahead of the rest of the class.