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enhanced_deficit
08-14-2013, 10:06 PM
Number of protesters massacred today could reach over 1000 according to some unconfirmed reports after Military dictatorship funded with US tax payers money by Suspected War Criminal Obama opened fire today on Egyptian sit in protesters calling for restoration of democractically elected government.


Update 2 :
Egypt Death Toll Passes 600 as Brotherhood Vows New Protests



Wall Street Journal
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Senior European diplomats will meet Monday to begin considering what action to take in response to the bloody crackdown on protesters by Egypt's interim authorities and the imposition of a state of emergency.



Egypt: 278 People Killed - Sky News


1:23am UK, Thursday 15 August 2013


Cairo massacre: Scores killed and hundreds more injured (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/cairo-massacre-scores-killed-and-hundreds-more-injured-as-egyptian-government-declares-war-on--islamists-8760379.html)

Mohamed el-Baradei, the vice President and Nobel laureate, resigns in protest over the crackdown


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/23693045

Suspected CIA agent and Nobel prize winner Vice President puppet in Military Junta's regime, Mohamed
el-Baradei of Iraq WMD fame, has resigned.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW9IEUGVRB4

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2013/8/14/253592/default/v2/2013-08-14t112445z-1224709821-gm1e98e1hqw02-rtrmadp-3-egypt-protests-1-522x293.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8761860.ece/ALTERNATES/w620/egypt-27.jpg





Recent related news that shaped current US policy towards Military dictatprship that overthrew elected Egyptian government recenty.


http://chronicle.com/blognetwork/tenuredradical/files/2012/06/barack-obama-golfing1.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=obama+golfing&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=sB-pRMWLMj_v7M&tbnid=AV__922Rb9395M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fchronicle.com%2Fblognetwork%2Ften uredradical%2Fcategory%2Fbarack-obama%2F&ei=e1QMUoHaIIfuyQGT1YGAAw&bvm=bv.50723672,d.b2I&psig=AFQjCNGsb7zWMwlfWhtQ-wbBB73802D6tA&ust=1376625740006289)
Obama administation approves $1.3 billion in military aid for Egypt (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/03/1220994/-Obama-administation-approves-1-3-billion-in-military-aid-for-Egypt)
Jul 3, 2013 - I find it very disappointing that the Obama administration has supported the Egyptian military with billions of dollars in aid. Less than two months ...

Obama administration won't use 'coup' to describe Egypt, allowing ... (http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/216958151.html)
www.startribune.com/politics/national/216958151.html‎ (http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/216958151.html%E2%80%8E)
Jul 25, 2013 - Obama administration won't use 'coup' to describe Egypt, allowing US to maintain military aid. Article by: BRADLEY KLAPPER , Associated ...



On the other hand interventionist neocons plant is being pushed from all directions.


Analysts: US must try hard to dispel notion that it supported Egypt coup

Pro-Israel Advocates Push for Continued Aid to Egypt

On the one hand, some analysts are arguing that the U.S. must try hard to dispel the notion that it supported or now accepts the coup, lest it persuade Islamist parties, including Morsi’s Muslim Brotherhood, that its purported promotion of democracy worldwide does not apply to them.

On the other hand, other analysts – many of them neo-conservatives and others closely associated with the Israel lobby — have greeted the coup in Egypt more positively, urging the Obama administration to accept the coup, continue aid, and work closely with the generals, who are now seen as in control despite their nominal transfer of power to the chief justice of the Supreme Constitutional Court, to ensure a return to democratic rule.


http://www.lobelog.com/pro-israel-advocates-push-for-continued-aid-to-egypt/



Israel relying on Egyptian army to counter Islamists


Published July 05, 2013
JERUSALEM (AFP) – Israel is relying on the Egyptian army to suppress Islamist militants in the Sinai and to ensure the country's stability after the dismissal of Mohamed Morsi as president, Israeli media and politicians said.
The Egyptian military overthrew Morsi on Wednesday after millions of protesters rallied to demand the Islamist leader quit for failing the 2011 revolution and bolstering his Islamist base at the expense of the rest of the country.
Ministers in the Israeli cabinet have so far stuck to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's order for silence on the subject.
But MP Tzahi Hanegbi, who is close to Netanyahu, welcomed the ouster of Morsi, Egypt's first democratically-elected president who hails from the Muslim Brotherhood.


http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/05/israel-relying-on-egyptian-army-to-counter-islamists/






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXXT9cDDgLw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXXT9cDDgLw

enhanced_deficit
08-14-2013, 10:28 PM
It is not clear if Obama puppet masteers secretly ordered/gave green light to US funded military regime for today's massacre of democratic protesters but lip service is usually along the lines of "use restraint" while killing protesters etc.

Egypt Military Aid to Be Paid by U.S. for Strategic Goals - Bloomberg (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-23/egypt-military-aid-to-be-paid-by-u-s-for-strategic-goals.html)

www.bloomberg.com/.../egypt-military-aid-to-be-paid-by-u-s-for-strateg...‎ (http://www.bloomberg.com/.../egypt-military-aid-to-be-paid-by-u-s-for-strateg...‎)

Mar 23, 2012 - The Obama administration has decided to release military aid for Egypt that has been in question since the country acted to prosecute U.S. and ...


August 14, 2013



Massacre Of Islamists By Egyptian Military Likely Strategic (http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/haroonmoghul/7252/massacre_of_islamists_by_egyptian_military_likely_ strategic/)


It’s hard to get a handle on what’s happening in Egypt, but my sense is that all of this is deeply political in nature and intent. This is more than just a massacre, it’s a strategic massacre.
By cracking down so violently and indiscriminately on the Muslim Brotherhood and its supporters, the military well knows it will initiate a cycle of retaliatory violence on the part of supporters, sympathizers, and opportunistic elements in the Sinai and elsewhere, who get blamed for being the Brotherhood even though there’s absolutely no evidence that they are.



14 August 2013 Last updated at 23:22 ET

Egypt crisis: World leaders condemn crackdown on camps

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/69292000/jpg/_69292223_018966502.jpg Parts of Cairo descended into chaos as the protest camps were dispersed


There has been strong international condemnation of the deadly crackdown against protest camps in the Egyptian capital Cairo.
US Secretary of State John Kerry said the events were "deplorable" and "a real blow to reconciliation efforts".
EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon also deplored the use of force.
The interim government has declared a state of emergency and a curfew was in force across parts of Egypt overnight.
Protesters had been demanding the reinstatement of President Mohammed Morsi who was ousted by the military on 3 July.
The Muslim Brotherhood, which backed the protests, said more than 2,000 people died when security forces moved in to clear the two camps - in Nahda Square and near the Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque.
The interim government said 235 civilians had been killed nationwide, as well as 43 police officers. The figures cannot be independently verified.
US Secretary of State John Kerry: "The path towards violence leads only to greater instability"

Interim Prime Minister Hazem Beblawi defended the operation, saying the authorities had to restore security.
But Mr Kerry said it had dealt a "serious blow" to Egypt's political reconciliation efforts.
"This is a pivotal moment for all Egyptians," he said. "The path toward violence leads only to greater instability, economic disaster and suffering."
The office of UN chief Ban Ki-moon said he regretted that Egyptian authorities had chosen to use force to respond to the demonstrations.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23707439

enhanced_deficit
08-14-2013, 10:47 PM
Scores of journalists have also been killed in firing on protesters by tax payers funded military regime.

Husband of former Post reporter among journalists killed in Egypt ... (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/husband-of-former-post-reporter-is-killed-in-egypt/2013/08/14/98bc06b0-04f1-11e3-88d6-d5795fab4637_story.html)Washington Post-2 hours ago
Mick Deane went to work on Wednesday much as he had for the past 40 years, lugging a TV camera. As street violence tumbled about him in ...
Four journalists killed covering Egypt clashes (http://rt.com/news/journalists-dead-egypt-protests-498/)RT (blog)-5 hours ago

COpatriot
08-14-2013, 10:49 PM
The government should be the only people to have guns. That way everyone will be safe.

Edit: Of course the MB did bring much of this on themselves.

enhanced_deficit
08-14-2013, 10:58 PM
The government should be the only people to have guns. That way everyone will be safe.


Protesters retaliated in strange ways at some spots of clashes.

Egypt declares state of emergency as 278, including journalists, die in bloody clashes

Armoured car full of police thrown 50ft off bridge by Cairo mob

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01785/SNN1511G---_1785353a.jpg Freefall ... huge vehicle tumbles towards ground

Published: 14th August 2013

THIS is the horrifying moment an armoured car full of police officers was hurled off a 50ft-high bridge by protesters, landing on its roof, as " hundreds " of demonstrators were killed in Cairo.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/sky-news-cameraman-50-killed-cairo-egyptian-troops-attack-pro-mursi-protesters-article-1.1426381

juleswin
08-14-2013, 11:00 PM
I got this from a poster from a different website

"these are hardly just innocent protesters. MB were running detention and torture centers in their encampments, attacking police and suspected "informers," terrorizing religious minorities, and trying to set up an alternative government. No country would find such activities tolerable."

"They burned government buildings, police stations, and churches. And they took to arms. In one case, in a funeral procession, caskets were found to be filled with ammunition."

Quite frankly, I do not feel sorry for them at all, they are a greater evil that should be dealt with. This is the Egyptian version of Wahhabi radicals, they are very controlling, they do no associate well with anyone other than their kind and they are very violent. They have their Imams preaching for jihad in Syria and for that alone, I am willing to turn a blind eye on the killings.

enhanced_deficit
08-14-2013, 11:06 PM
I got this from a poster from a different website




Care to share source? Is it a neoconish or SWC Obama pupms leaning site or an objective news source?

Even if this internet posters claims are taken to be not bogus, massacre of sit in protesters by neocons funded military dictatorship can't be justified as I'm sure you'll agree.

juleswin
08-14-2013, 11:28 PM
Care to share source? Is it a neoconish or SWC Obama pupms leaning site or an objective news source?

Even if this internet posters claims are taken to be not bogus, massacre of sit in protesters by neocons funded military dictatorship can't be justified as I'm sure you'll agree.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014565623#post39

The poster is just the opposite of neocon, he is very very anti war, anti interventionist and his analysis has been spot on regarding events in the middle east. But nobody needs to tell you how extreme or violent the muslim brotherhood is and I wouldn't the surprised if they started shooting at the police first in order to be martyred. These are very dangerous types whose imams preach and practice hate of non sunni people.

AuH20
08-14-2013, 11:33 PM
I got this from a poster from a different website

"these are hardly just innocent protesters. MB were running detention and torture centers in their encampments, attacking police and suspected "informers," terrorizing religious minorities, and trying to set up an alternative government. No country would find such activities tolerable."

"They burned government buildings, police stations, and churches. And they took to arms. In one case, in a funeral procession, caskets were found to be filled with ammunition."

Quite frankly, I do not feel sorry for them at all, they are a greater evil that should be dealt with. This is the Egyptian version of Wahhabi radicals, they are very controlling, they do no associate well with anyone other than their kind and they are very violent. They have their Imams preaching for jihad in Syria and for that alone, I am willing to turn a blind eye on the killings.

Correct. The Muslim Brotherhood is originally a MI6/OSS creation. They are really rotten to the core.

JK/SEA
08-14-2013, 11:37 PM
who am i supposed to be rooting for?

AuH20
08-14-2013, 11:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM8bjgiWrQM

enhanced_deficit
08-15-2013, 02:34 AM
who am i supposed to be rooting for?

Not for, against US tax payers funded massacre of democratic protesters that could cause blowback for US tax payers.



Correct. The Muslim Brotherhood is originally a MI6/OSS creation. They are really rotten to the core.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014565623#post39

The poster is just the opposite of neocon, he is very very anti war, anti interventionist and his analysis has been spot on regarding events in the middle east. But nobody needs to tell you how extreme or violent the muslim brotherhood is and I wouldn't the surprised if they started shooting at the police first in order to be martyred. These are very dangerous types whose imams preach and practice hate of non sunni people.

Are SWC's masters funding/arming worse hate preachers/Al Qaeda linked mlitants in Syria? Be great if can invite that poster here to defend suspected war criminal's aid to these military despots.
Or this is new Egypt civil war strategy between these agencies and Obama pupms by pitting these groups against military dictatorship by funding both sides?
I thought Egypt was not slated for civil war like Syria was on neocons mideast interventions roadmap.

GunnyFreedom
08-15-2013, 03:35 AM
who am i supposed to be rooting for?

...for the US to get the fk OUT of Egypt and let them settle their own problems. :)

GunnyFreedom
08-15-2013, 03:42 AM
Not for, against US tax payers funded massacre of democratic protesters that could cause blowback for US tax payers.






Are SWC's masters funding/arming worse hate preachers/Al Qaeda linked mlitants in Syria? Be great if can invite that poster here to defend suspected war criminal's aid to these military despots.
Or this is new Egypt civil war strategy between these agencies and Obama pupms by pitting these groups against military dictatorship by funding both sides?
I thought Egypt was not slated for civil war like Syria was on neocons mideast interventions roadmap.

I think you have the wrong idea of what exactly is going on there. The pro-MB people are violent thugs, and they were only in power because WE put them there. The whole thing has gone topsy-flipsy since then, but we didn't stop giving them military aid even when the governing authority took a couple 180's and perpendiculars.

The people being hurt in Egypt today are the same people we are arming in Syria.

It's all a big joke and we are arming both sides.

These 'democratic protestors' are anything BUT.

But that doesn't mean WE should be involved.

This whole damn thing is because we're already involved, and every time we move our doggone pinkie toe we make it worse.

Leave Egypt NOW. Stop funding Egypt NOW.

but if you are trying to develop sympathy for the poor protesters getting run over by tanks and crap, you'll have a hard time finding it amongst people who are aware of what's going on there.

HOLLYWOOD
08-15-2013, 07:42 AM
Hmm... let's see what Secretary John Kerry & the Clown Cart policies makers expedite for humanitarian immediate attention. So, where's the Washington DC/UN HYPOCRITES NOW?

Where's OPERATION Odyssey Dawn PART DEUX?

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973
aka (Bomb The Shit out of a Country & Assassinate Leaders... Install Puppets



UN Security Council
Resolution 1973


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Libya-War-Map.png/345px-Libya-War-Map.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Libya-War-Map.png)
States enforcing no-fly zone
Libya





Date
17 March 2011


Meeting no.
6,49


Code
S/RES/1973 (Document (http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2011/sc10200.doc.htm#Resolution))





Vote
For: 10 — Abs. 5 — Against: 0


Subject
Libyan civil war (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_civil_war)


Result
Adopted



Security Council (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council) composition









United Nations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) Security Council Resolution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution) 1973, on the situation in Libya (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_civil_war), is a measure that was adopted on 17 March 2011. The Security Council resolution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_resolution) was proposed by France (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France), Lebanon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon), and the United Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1973#ci te_note-UN_News_Centre-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1973#ci te_note-2)
Ten Security Council (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council) members voted in the affirmative (Bosnia and Herzegovina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina), Colombia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colombia), Gabon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabon), Lebanon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon), Nigeria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria), Portugal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal), South Africa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa), and permanent members France (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France), the United Kingdom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), and the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)). Five (Brazil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil), Germany (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany), and India (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India), and permanent members China (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China) and Russia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia)) abstained, with none opposed.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1973#ci te_note-3)

shane77m
08-15-2013, 08:11 AM
I thought the president they ousted was a puppet of the United States and member of the Muslim Brotherhood and the protesters are members of the Muslim Brotherhood. I also thought the people of Egypt didn't want a puppet or the Muslim Brotherhood running their country.

GunnyFreedom
08-15-2013, 08:51 AM
I thought the president they ousted was a puppet of the United States and member of the Muslim Brotherhood and the protesters are members of the Muslim Brotherhood. I also thought the people of Egypt didn't want a puppet or the Muslim Brotherhood running their country.

Correct! And I'll go you one further, Juan McCain was just in Egypt setting up offices to free some of the worst of the lot of these 'protesters.' What we are seeing here is an intentional move engineered by John McFake and company to manufacture pity for the American puppet regime that Egypt has already rejected.

shane77m
08-15-2013, 09:05 AM
I suspect the US government will declare a humanitarian crisis or such and start sending aid to the protesters. Aid such as guns, bullets, rockets, explosives...
Gotta get the puppet back in power.

GunnyFreedom
08-15-2013, 09:14 AM
I suspect the US government will declare a humanitarian crisis or such and start sending aid to the protesters. Aid such as guns, bullets, rockets, explosives...
Gotta get the puppet back in power.

ding ding ding!

AuH20
08-15-2013, 09:36 AM
How does Europe procure some of it's oil imports? Now you understand why they have dictators installed in Egypt? Dictators backed by U.S. greenbacks & Hardware = STABILITY. I can guarantee you that if this coup gets really messy and interferes with the below, you'll have Euro and NATO hierarchy pressing for the U.S. military to get involved.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/14/us-egypt-suez-idUSBRE97D0UE20130814


SUMED Pipeline


SUMED Pipeline
The 200-mile long SUMED Pipeline, or Suez-Mediterranean Pipeline, provides an alternative to the Suez Canal for vessels and cargos too large to transit through the Canal (fully laden VLCCs and larger). The crude oil flows through two parallel pipelines that are 42-inches in diameter, with a total pipeline capacity of around 2.35 million bbl/d. Oil flows north through Egypt and is carried from the Ain Sukhna terminal along the Red Sea coast to its end point at the Sidi Kerir terminal on the Mediterranean. SUMED is owned by the Arab Petroleum Pipeline Co., a joint venture between the Egyptian General Petroleum Corporation (EGPC), Saudi Aramco, Abu Dhabi's National Oil Company (ADNOC), and Kuwaiti companies.

The SUMED Pipeline is the only alternative route nearby to transport crude oil from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean if ships were unable to navigate through the Suez Canal. Closure of the Suez Canal and the SUMED Pipeline would necessitate diverting oil tankers around the southern tip of Africa, the Cape of Good Hope, adding approximately 2,700 miles to transit from Saudi Arabia to the United States, increasing both costs and shipping time, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation. According to the International Energy Agency (IEA), shipping around Africa would add 15 days of transit to Europe and 8-10 days to the United States.

Fully laden VLCCs transiting toward the Suez Canal also use the SUMED Pipeline for lightering. Lightering occurs when a vessel needs to reduce its weight and draft by offloading cargo in order to enter a restrictive waterway, such as a canal. The Suez Canal is not deep enough for a fully laden VLCC and, therefore, a portion of the crude is offloaded at the SUMED Pipeline at the Ain Sukhna terminal. The now partially laden VLCC goes through the Suez Canal and picks up the portion of its crude at the other end of the pipeline at Sidi Kerir terminal.

http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=12371

69360
08-15-2013, 09:41 AM
Obama administration funded both sides.

juleswin
08-15-2013, 09:43 AM
I suspect the US government will declare a humanitarian crisis or such and start sending aid to the protesters. Aid such as guns, bullets, rockets, explosives...
Gotta get the puppet back in power.

Not really, see the Muslim brotherhood were given a chance to govern and they blew it. Now the US will be looking for a different puppet, maybe El Baradei? She has the support of Hillary Clinton which tells you that he is a puppet of the west. This could also be a way to tell the Egyptian people that they better stick with a Mubarak instead of trying to start a revolution that would bring crazy Muslim brotherhood in power.

pcosmar
08-15-2013, 09:44 AM
who am i supposed to be rooting for?

Don't.
The protests that started the first time were organic,, but were quickly co-opted.
They ended up allowing the very worst to remain in power, despite taking out the head puppet.

The people lose. TPTB are shuffling the deck again.

Holodomor
08-15-2013, 09:49 AM
...for the US to get the fk OUT of Egypt and let them settle their own problems. :)

Preach!

It'd be nice for there to be one more secular, and one less Islamic theocratic, state out there, but should we get involved to ensure that happens? No! Let them fight it out amongst themselves, and let the chips fall where they may.

enhanced_deficit
08-15-2013, 11:06 AM
I think you have the wrong idea of what exactly is going on there. The pro-MB people are violent thugs, and they were only in power because WE put them there. The whole thing has gone topsy-flipsy since then, but we didn't stop giving them military aid even when the governing authority took a couple 180's and perpendiculars.

The people being hurt in Egypt today are the same people we are arming in Syria.

It's all a big joke and we are arming both sides.

These 'democratic protestors' are anything BUT.

But that doesn't mean WE should be involved.

This whole damn thing is because we're already involved, and every time we move our doggone pinkie toe we make it worse.

Leave Egypt NOW. Stop funding Egypt NOW.

but if you are trying to develop sympathy for the poor protesters getting run over by tanks and crap, you'll have a hard time finding it amongst people who are aware of what's going on there.

I agree we need to end intervention in Egypt and stop funding torturing thugs there in military uniforms working for foreign masters and denying democratic aspiration of people of that country. After blowback attacks on WTC buildings, we had supposedly halted funding dictatorship puppets abroad. But apparently not.

In the opinion part of my post, I was speculating about role SWC's regime played but other than that I think I have pretty good idea about what has been taking place there for decades. Protesters calling for restoration of last democratically elected government have been brutally cleared out killing over 500 per reports so far.

If there are thungs in a group comitting a crime, they should be arrested/tried, opening fire on camp of protsters is not the just action. This is droning of people at mass scale, a practice our on suspected war criminal pupet has popularized. I hope you are not implying Military dictatorship's action here mowing down camped out protesters and killing over 500 people were ustified? If so, do you have ANY idea how many of the 5000 plus people killed/injured were "thugs" , how many students, anti dictatorship protesters, journalists, musims, christians, jews?

If there are free democrtic elections held there tomorrow, in your opinion which party will win?
Also, do you know reason SWC's puppet masters insist on giving billions in aid to anti-democracy military junta there?
These question sums up the whole dicusson and SWC's pup masters role.

JK/SEA
08-15-2013, 11:36 AM
I agree we need to end intervention in Egypt and stop funding torturing thugs there in military uniforms working for foreign masters and denying democratic aspiration of people of that country. After blowback attacks on WTC buildings, we had supposedly halted funding dictatorship puppets abroad. But apparently not.

In the opinion part of my post, I was speculating about role SWC's regime played but other than that I think I have pretty good idea about what has been taking place there for decades. Protesters calling for restoration of last democratically elected government have been brutally cleared out killing over 500 per reports so far.

If there are thungs in a group comitting a crime, they should be arrested/tried, opening fire on camp of protsters is not the just action. This is droning of people at mass scale, a practice our on suspected war criminal pupet has popularized. I hope you are not implying Military dictatorship's action here mowing down camped out protesters and killing over 500 people were ustified? If so, do you have ANY idea how many of the 5000 plus people killed/injured were "thugs" , how many students, anti dictatorship protesters, journalists, musims, christians, jews?

If there are free democrtic elections held there tomorrow, in your opinion which party will win?
Also, do you know reason SWC's puppet masters insist on giving billions in aid to anti-democracy military junta there?
These question sums up the whole dicusson and SWC's pup masters role.


here's the deal. MY tax money is going into this rat hole and i personnally don't give a shit if they all just kill each other off. I want my tax money back for this crap so i can give it to Adam Kokesh.

Lifes a bitch, and then ya die.

really really really getting tired of this game over there...fuck em all.

There...is that clear enough?

enhanced_deficit
08-15-2013, 12:19 PM
here's the deal. MY tax money is going into this rat hole and i personnally don't give a shit if they all just kill each other off. I want my tax money back for this crap so i can give it to Adam Kokesh.

Lifes a bitch, and then ya die.

really really really getting tired of this game over there...fuck em all.

There...is that clear enough?

Highlighted is the key part, rest will ne none of our business as you noted.. although it seems old habits of colonial puppet mastery/inerventions around the world die hard. We are getting there but too slowly. In the meantime, as long yours and mine tax payers are being used to butcher / oppress people, we ARE responsible o a degree.

shane77m
08-15-2013, 12:52 PM
In the meantime, as long yours and mine tax payers are being used to butcher / oppress people, we ARE responsible o a degree.

Makes one think about stopping paying taxes.

puppetmaster
08-15-2013, 01:36 PM
Gotta send in our "global force for good". This will make sure the Israelis are happy and continue the cash flow to the war machine....hey anyone hear about any soldiers getting killed in Afghanistan, bombing Yemen, etc...nary a peep from the war criminals and the media puppets.

bunklocoempire
08-15-2013, 02:23 PM
who am i supposed to be rooting for?

The team we they spent the most money on?

*looks at program, shrugs*

I think I'll head out to the car and beat the traffic home.
There's no winner here and I'm sick of trying to keep track of the overpaid and overhyped "freedom roster". :mad:

enhanced_deficit
08-15-2013, 09:44 PM
So it appers Lebanon and Egypt were next on neocons gameplan to stir up civil wars across mideast countries by strategically supporting opposing sides.

J_White
08-15-2013, 10:30 PM
Lets all repeat - "This is not a coup".....

on the other hand, isnt it great ? kill some islamists, give them reasons to become more extreme - its good for their recruitment drives,
and then we can justify the dangers we are in !! great for the MIC !! yay !

enhanced_deficit
08-15-2013, 10:37 PM
Lets all repeat - "This is not a coup".....

on the other hand, isnt it great ? kill some islamists, give them reasons to become more extreme - its good for their recruitment drives,
and then we can justify the dangers we are in !! great for the MIC !! yay !

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Dr.3D
08-15-2013, 10:59 PM
All of that fighting over there would probably end if the United States would quit giving them money every time they do it.

BlackTerrel
08-16-2013, 07:23 PM
This is so fucked. US needs to stay out of it. All sides in this conflict suck. My Egyptian friends just want their families out of there before it's too late - especially for the Christians.

BlackTerrel
08-16-2013, 07:25 PM
I think you have the wrong idea of what exactly is going on there. The pro-MB people are violent thugs, and they were only in power because WE put them there. The whole thing has gone topsy-flipsy since then, but we didn't stop giving them military aid even when the governing authority took a couple 180's and perpendiculars.

The MB people are violent thugs but they also won with the majority of the vote. They were democratically elected. Ron Paul said the same thing.

More reason than anything for us to stay the fuck out of it.

BlackTerrel
08-16-2013, 07:27 PM
I thought the president they ousted was a puppet of the United States and member of the Muslim Brotherhood and the protesters are members of the Muslim Brotherhood. I also thought the people of Egypt didn't want a puppet or the Muslim Brotherhood running their country.

The people of Egypt voted to have the Muslim brotherhood run their country.

This is an article by Ron Paul after the coup:

http://www.infowars.com/us-egypt-policies-dont-pass-the-laugh-test/

A military coup in Egypt yesterday resulted in the removal and imprisonment of the elected president, Mohamed Morsi, a closure of media outlets sympathetic to him, the house arrest of his advisors, and the suspension of the constitution. The military that overthrew Morsi is the main recipient of the $1.3 billion yearly US aid package to Egypt. You could say that the US “owns” the Egyptian military that just overthrew its democratically-elected leader.

Well, Egypt had a democratically-elected government, but it was overthrown by the US-funded Egyptian military!

BlackTerrel
08-16-2013, 07:28 PM
All of that fighting over there would probably end if the United States would quit giving them money every time they do it.

Wishful thinking. Religious fanatics would still be religious fanatics