Liberty Forest Sentiment: Jesse Benton

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Jesse Benton is a political consultant and libertarian activist known for working with conservative and libertarian organizations like Americans for Tax Reform (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Tax_Reform), the Liberty Coalition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Coalition), and the American Conservative Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Conservative_Union). Benton is strongly associated with the Paul family, serving as a high-ranking staffer for both Ron Paul (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul) and Rand Paul (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul), and being married to Ron Paul's granddaughter. Benton currently serves as the campaign manager of Republican Senate Minority Leader (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Minority_Leader) Mitch McConnell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_McConnell), who is running for re-election in 2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Kentucky,_2014). Benton has come under criticism for his role in Ron Paul's 2012 presidential campaign (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_presidential_campaign,_2012).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Benton#cite_note-Sullivan-1)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Benton


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[CPUd]

first!

[presence]

I'm surprised by the early results, I thought the board was more 50/50 than this.

[KingRobbStark]

I wan't to take him seriously, but it's hard to imagine that anything useful has ever come out of that baby face of his.

[ClydeCoulter]

I found him to be "puff up, stick a pin in it". Very discouraging. But, perhaps he's not the one responsible for some of the emails that came out in 2011-12.
"Hording cash for CA and TX', I'll never forget, hopes up, stick a pin in it.

[thoughtomator]

He's the only regret I have about donating to the RP campaign.

[presence]

How do I get in touch w/ Jesse via email most directly?

[jbauer]

He's the only regret I have about donating to the RP campaign.

Me too, I WILL NOT donate to Rand in 16 if Benton is onboard. I will spend my money locally doing grassroots endeavors.

[jbauer]

How do I get in touch w/ Jesse via email most directly?

info@boxNSAinquires.com

[donnay]

He's the only regret I have about donating to the RP campaign.


That goes for me too. He was very condescending to many of us volunteers. It gave me a bad taste in my mouth from day one. I overlooked a lot of it then because my main goal was get Dr. Paul's message out.

[69360]

6, not perfect but not bad. He got Rand elected and Ron's '12 campaign went better than anyone expected. I don't really care about the petty infighting some of you get all worked up about.

[ctiger2]

6, not perfect but not bad. He got Rand elected and Ron's '12 campaign went better than anyone expected. I don't really care about the petty infighting some of you get all worked up about.

Rand got Rand elected, not Benton. Rand might have done even better with a more competent and less political hack campaign manager.

[69360]

Rand got Rand elected, not Benton. Rand might have done even better with a more competent and less political hack campaign manager.

Thanks for quickly affirming the petty infighting around here. It serves no one.

[donnay]

Thanks for quickly affirming the petty infighting around here. It serves no one.

How is that petty infighting when someone states an opinion?

I take umbrage are your inference of infighting by telling our experiences and opinions of Jesse Benton. Jesse drew first blood by keeping those enthusiastic supporters from being heard and ignored.

[pcosmar]

Thanks for quickly affirming the petty infighting around here. It serves no one.

Actually, he has become the face for all the incompetence in the campaign.
I'm not sure if it was all him (I'm sure there were others) But he has become the visible face.

And he earned that.

[liberalnurse]

Thanks for quickly affirming the petty infighting around here. It serves no one.

Ron Paul supporters don't play along to get along. "Petty infighting?" I prefer to think of it as a difference of opinions.

[JK/SEA]

Thanks for quickly affirming the petty infighting around here. It serves no one.

and yet here you are with your own brand of 'unifying'...

your 'opinion' has been noted, and filed away..over here....>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O <

[presence]

1 = Jesse Benton is very bad for the liberty movement.

21 38.18%
2 = I'm not optimistic about his future in liberty.

13 23.64%
3 = I guess you could say net loss.

4 7.27%
4 = I'm indifferent, time will tell.

12 21.82%
5 = I guess you could say net gain.

2 3.64%
6 = Generally good vibes charting forward.

2 3.64%
7 = Jesse Benton is very good for the liberty movement.

1 1.82%




first day results:



69.1% Net Loss for Liberty or worse

21.8% Indifferent

9.1% Net Gain for Liberty or better

[Lucille]

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[supermario21]

I wish I knew more about the whole thing. Benton seems suspicious but I can't trust the mudslingers like Wenzel either...

[69360]

Ron Paul supporters don't play along to get along. "Petty infighting?" I prefer to think of it as a difference of opinions.

And that's why we don't win. Did you see Obama or Romney voters constantly complaining about his campaign manager? No they worked as a team and won.

[angelatc]

And that's why we don't win. Did you see Obama or Romney voters constantly complaining about his campaign manager? No they worked as a team and won.

You think it's our fault Ron Paul didn't win? Wow.

Their campaign manager did a much better job at organizing volunteers and building morale with staff. You know, building a team.

[JK/SEA]

And that's why we don't win. Did you see Obama or Romney voters constantly complaining about his campaign manager? No they worked as a team and won.

geeezus...you really believe that?....HAHAHAHA.....

[69360]

You think it's our fault Ron Paul didn't win? Wow.

Their campaign manager did a much better job at organizing volunteers and building morale with staff. You know, building a team.


geeezus...you really believe that?....HAHAHAHA.....

I think we would do better without the constant infighting, blaming, shaming, egos and attaching pet issues to candidates that don't support them. In other words act like a powerful political machine, not a bunch of crazies. It's got so bad that the MSM comes here to get dirt on us. So yes I do.

[VBRonPaulFan]

And that's why we don't win. Did you see Obama or Romney voters constantly complaining about his campaign manager? No they worked as a team and won.

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[LibertyEagle]

You think it's our fault Ron Paul didn't win? Wow.

Their campaign manager did a much better job at organizing volunteers and building morale with staff. You know, building a team.

I agree with you to some extent, but you have to admit that there are a good portion of people, especially on this site, who would refuse to do anything the campaign asked them to do. I remember when Amash's campaign manager asked us to please comment on articles that were bashing him. Only a handful bothered. But, oh, people have plenty of time to bash anything and everything under the sun. Do anything constructive? Not so much.

[LibertyEagle]

I think we would do better without the constant infighting, blaming, shaming, egos and attaching pet issues to candidates that don't support them. In other words act like a powerful political machine, not a bunch of crazies. It's got so bad that the MSM comes here to get dirt on us. So yes I do.

There are not enough +reps to give you for this.

[jjdoyle]

6, not perfect but not bad. He got Rand elected and Ron's '12 campaign went better than anyone expected. I don't really care about the petty infighting some of you get all worked up about.


Rand got Rand elected, not Benton. Rand might have done even better with a more competent and less political hack campaign manager.

Actually, let's just state the obvious. Rand was elected because of his father, and the GRASSROOTS on the ground doing what they always do. Helping raise funds, phone calls, door-to-door.

As for this, I guess it really depends on what you define "liberty" as. I don't see lying to supporters, sitting behind the scenes cutting deals with Mitt Romney's campaign, etc., as being very liberty minded.


And that's why we don't win. Did you see Obama or Romney voters constantly complaining about his campaign manager? No they worked as a team and won.

Last I saw, Romney was busy busing his supporters around. It happened in 2007 at the debates. We (Ron Paul supporters) were there all day canvasing, passing out campaign info, and then about an hour (maybe 2) before the event, the Romney bus shows up and "supporters" pile off with signs to go stand in their places before the cameras.

As for "working as a team", Ron Paul 2012 didn't want to work as a team. They were the "experts", and knew exactly how to lose the nomination, while making it appear they were semi-serious about winning. It was the best of both worlds for them.

The difference between Mitt Romney and President Obama's campaigns compared to Ron Paul 2012, is that they were actually SERIOUS about winning. There's a BIG difference.

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I just realized there's actually 3 people in that picture. Ha!

[cajuncocoa]

And that's why we don't win. Did you see Obama or Romney voters constantly complaining about his campaign manager? No they worked as a team and won.

Am I the only one reading this post differently? Is the joke that Obama and Romney worked together and won? Some of us have been saying there's no difference between them, so I guess in a way Romney did win along with Obama.

[Christian Liberty]

Am I the only one reading this post differently? Is the joke that Obama and Romney worked together and won? Some of us have been saying there's no difference between them, so I guess in a way Romney did win along with Obama.

I just noticed this. LOL!

That said, the poster you quoted above is a snake. He believes respect for murderers is justified, and he responded in a venomous fashion, complete with neg reps, when I dared question his idolatry of murderers (soldiers.)

[Christian Liberty]

I think we would do better without the constant infighting, blaming, shaming, egos and attaching pet issues to candidates that don't support them. In other words act like a powerful political machine, not a bunch of crazies. It's got so bad that the MSM comes here to get dirt on us. So yes I do.

Of course, a statist who worships the military would defend a fellow snake:rolleyes:

[RickyJ]

I think he is more suited as a bouncer or bodyguard than as a political consultant. Tom Woods seems top notch to me, if I was Ron Paul I would have had him as my campaign manager.

[Occam's Banana]

I think he is more suited as a bouncer or bodyguard than as a political consultant. Tom Woods seems top notch to me, if I was Ron Paul I would have had him as my campaign manager.

I very much doubt that Woods would even want the job.
Nor do I think he would be particularly well-suited for it.
His (prodigious) strengths & talents lie in other areas.

IOW: The job would be wasted on him - and he on the job.

[LibertyEagle]

I think he is more suited as a bouncer or bodyguard than as a political consultant. Tom Woods seems top notch to me, if I was Ron Paul I would have had him as my campaign manager.

Tom Woods is wonderful at many things, but he knows zip about running political campaigns.

[LibertyEagle]

I just noticed this. LOL!

That said, the poster you quoted above is a snake. He believes respect for murderers is justified, and he responded in a venomous fashion, complete with neg reps, when I dared question his idolatry of murderers (soldiers.)

You do recall that Ron Paul had the greatest support amongst the soldiers of any candidate running, right? Perhaps you should consider not running off some of the people who support the message I at least thought we were trying to further.

[presence]

71.43% Negative Sentiment


20.24 Indifferent
8.33 Positive

[TomtheTinker]

Rand hiring him would be huge mistake.

[sylcfh]

And that's why we don't win. Did you see Obama or Romney voters constantly complaining about his campaign manager? No they worked as a team and won.




That's because Obama and Romney needed a campaign manager more than Ron Paul did. They stand for nothing. They're the same type of people who don't read bills before voting on them. They're the opposite of Ron. They're carefully crafted puppets, unable to speak unless someone is whispering in their ear telling them what to say.

[Weston White]

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[V3n]

Controversy switching to McConnell; then saying he doesn't like McConnell; then bribery story; and things he may or may not have said about prominent figures working in the grassroots.. plus he's family so it looks like nepotism.

I think he needs to go away for awhile, work with the grassroots or help state/local liberty politicians, re-invent himself, and come back after 2016.

[paulbot24]

I wan't to take him seriously, but it's hard to imagine that anything useful has ever come out of that baby face of his.

Agreed. That picture makes him look like a byproduct of Newt Gingrich. I was wondering what is was all this time that made him so fundamentally loathsome to me....

[New York For Paul]

Here is Jesse's wikipedia page. The good and the bad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Benton