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Contumacious
08-13-2013, 10:19 AM
Despite DOJ Announcement, The Federal Prison Population Will Grow (http://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2013/08/12/no-matter-the-dojs-announcement-the-federal-prison-population-will-grow/)

The Department of Justice’s position is that it is going to move away from counting the number of pounds of drugs found on a defendant who is not a member of a gang and not in possession of a weapon. That way of prosecution, by weight, is the same used in white-collar crime when the Feds go for dollars instead of pounds. The fact is, long prison terms and increasing rates of incarceration at the federal level will remain with us for some time to come no matter today’s announcement.

First, there is a lot of money in incarcerating people … and it is hard to take that money away.

Second, federal prosecutors make a name for themselves by bringing cases that make the biggest headlines … and headlines are made with long prison terms.

Third, even if an inmate’s prison term is reduced, there is not enough existing halfway house facilities to take the inmates.

Fourth, when lower prison terms are offered to first time non-violent offenders, there will be less incentive for one defendant to snitch on another."

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JK/SEA
08-13-2013, 10:28 AM
looks like somebody is spoiling for a fight......so be it.

tod evans
08-13-2013, 10:43 AM
Don't worry, surely there's a plan that will permit the "Just-Us" department to grow, assuring those involved in the conspiracy more ill-gotten gains all the while saddling the tax-payer with more laws and debt....

surf
08-13-2013, 11:00 AM
obviously you can't believe that douchebag Holder, but it was heartening to see the bar association members cheer when Holder claimed that they'd revise sentencing guidelines.

I mean, it's still just a bunch of lawyers, but at least they reacted correctly.

tod evans
08-13-2013, 11:02 AM
I mean, it's still just a bunch of lawyers, but at least they reacted correctly.

Would I be out of line suggesting boiling oil?

Contumacious
08-13-2013, 11:05 AM
Don't worry, surely there's a plan that will permit the "Just-Us" department to grow, assuring those involved in the conspiracy more ill-gotten gains all the while saddling the tax-payer with more laws and debt....

Americans have a right secured by the 9th Amendment to self-medicate.

So Holder's proposal would have provided some relief to those who exercise their right.

But it appears that folks with a conflict of interest will prevent that from happening.

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tod evans
08-13-2013, 11:19 AM
Americans have a right secured by the 9th Amendment to self-medicate.

So Holder's proposal was provided some relief to those who exercise their right.


Don't think for a moment that Holder gives a shit about anybodies rights.

This decision was strictly pandering with a heavy dose of political doublespeak...

There might be lesser sentences in some instances but rest assured there's a fucking written in....

ZENemy
08-13-2013, 11:22 AM
Fiddling while Rome burns

To occupy oneself with unimportant matters and neglect priorities during a crisis.

Contumacious
08-13-2013, 11:50 AM
Fiddling while Rome burns

To occupy oneself with unimportant matters and neglect priorities during a crisis.

Really?


The Prison Crisis (http://www.aclu.org/safe-communities-fair-sentences/prison-crisis)


With only 5% of the world’s population, the U.S. has 25% of the world’s prison population – that makes us the world’s largest jailer.
Since 1970, our prison population has risen 700%.
One in 99 adults are living behind bars in the U.S. This marks the highest rate of imprisonment in American history.
One in 31 adults are under some form of correctional control, counting prison, jail, parole and probation populations.".

Warlord
08-13-2013, 12:06 PM
The PIC sucks

kcchiefs6465
08-13-2013, 12:14 PM
Really?


The Prison Crisis (http://www.aclu.org/safe-communities-fair-sentences/prison-crisis)


With only 5% of the world’s population, the U.S. has 25% of the world’s prison population – that makes us the world’s largest jailer.
Since 1970, our prison population has risen 700%.
One in 99 adults are living behind bars in the U.S. This marks the highest rate of imprisonment in American history.
One in 31 adults are under some form of correctional control, counting prison, jail, parole and probation populations.".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MGQjiBqO8A

Contumacious
08-13-2013, 12:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MGQjiBqO8A

That song does not apply to the 2,400,000 individuals who have been incarcerated for exercising their NINTH Amendment right.

If the present trend continues it wont apply to the rest of us.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ZENemy
08-13-2013, 12:33 PM
Really?


The Prison Crisis (http://www.aclu.org/safe-communities-fair-sentences/prison-crisis)


With only 5% of the world’s population, the U.S. has 25% of the world’s prison population – that makes us the world’s largest jailer.
Since 1970, our prison population has risen 700%.
One in 99 adults are living behind bars in the U.S. This marks the highest rate of imprisonment in American history.
One in 31 adults are under some form of correctional control, counting prison, jail, parole and probation populations.".

Yes but this would all indicate that what holder did or what he will do will actually effect sentencing, it will not, they will find another way to reinstate it.


This is fiddling while Rome burns "You see, they are really getting it now" "don't you see guys, holder is a great man, he removed mandatory sentences" is all we will hear while they raid legal weed spots. Nothing but a carrot hanging in front of a donkey.

kcchiefs6465
08-13-2013, 12:37 PM
That song does not apply to the 2,400,000 individuals who have been incarcerated for exercising their NINTH Amendment right.

If the present trend continues it wont apply to the rest of us.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It doesn't apply to me either.

Lately.

Contumacious
08-13-2013, 12:56 PM
Yes but this would all indicate that what holder did or what he will do will actually effect sentencing, it will not, they will find another way to reinstate it.


This is fiddling while Rome burns "You see, they are really getting it now" "don't you see guys, holder is a great man, he removed mandatory sentences" is all we will hear while they raid legal weed spots. Nothing but a carrot hanging in front of a donkey.


I concur that it appears that he was just feigning to be concerned.

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