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presence
08-11-2013, 07:42 PM
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-new-oversight-no-change-spying-power


Obama says phone spying not abused, will continue

By EILEEN SULLIVAN (http://bigstory.ap.org/content/eileen-sullivan) and PETE YOST (http://bigstory.ap.org/content/pete-yost)
— Aug. 9 5:03 PM EDT




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[A Globalist Marionette] speaks during a news conference in the East Room
(AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)







WASHINGTON (AP) —


President Barack Obama made it clear Friday
he has no intention of stopping
the daily collection of American phone records.



And while he offered "appropriate reforms," he blamed government leaks for creating distrust of his domestic spying program.


In an afternoon news conference, the president acknowledged the domestic spying has troubled Americans and hurt the country's image abroad. But he called it a critical counterterrorism tool.


"I am comfortable that the program currently is not being abused," Obama said. "I am comfortable that if the American people examined exactly what was taking place, how it was being used, what the safeguards were, that they would say,


'You know what? These folks are following the law.'"


Because the program remains classified, however, it's impossible for Americans to conduct that analysis beyond the assurances his administration has given.


"Understandably, people would be concerned," the president said. "I would be, too, if I weren't inside the government."


Obama's news conference came at the end of a summer that forced the administration into an unexpected debate over domestic surveillance, a debate that soon prompted the most significant reconsideration yet of the vast surveillance powers Congress granted the president after 9/11 attacks.


The debate began when former government contract systems analyst Edward Snowden leaked classified documents exposing National Security Agency programs that monitor Internet and phone data.


Every day, the NSA sweeps up the phone records of all Americans. The program was authorized

under the USA Patriot Act,

which Congress hurriedly passed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The NSA says phone records are the only information it collects in bulk under that law. But officials have left open the possibility that it could create similar databases of people's credit card transactions, hotel records and Internet searches.

Obama said he welcomed the debate, but his national security team also said it never intended to tell Americans about the highly classified phone program, which it falsely denied existed.


The speech followed a week of leaks in which government officials anonymously described a serious al-Qaida threat revealed in a phone conversation intercepted by U.S. surveillance. Obama reminded the public of that threat as he began his justification for the massive data collection programs.
As a senator, Obama criticized the Patriot Act provision that underpins the telephone surveillance. But he denied that his support for the program now represents a change in his views. When he took office, he said, he reviewed the surveillance tactics, made some changes, and believes they are useful and lawful.

To allay concerns, Obama endorsed modest oversight changes to a program he says already has plenty of it. None of them significantly changes the programs, and the





president acknowledged they were intended to


appease






Americans, not to curtail the surveillance.

qh4dotcom
08-11-2013, 07:49 PM
Can you all please do something about the people you know who voted for Obama?

Anti Federalist
08-11-2013, 08:22 PM
"You see, citizen it's like this: we will continue these programs because FUCK YOU!" - O-Bomb-Ya

Occam's Banana
08-11-2013, 10:24 PM
I am comfortable that the program currently is not being abused. I am comfortable [...]

I am ever so glad that Our Glorious Leader's comfort has been adequately seen to.


Understandably, people would be concerned. I would be, too, if I weren't inside the government.

You just can't make this shit up. What do you do with something like this? Laugh? Cry?
Stick your head in a wood-chipper to get the vapid, drooling horror of it out of your brain? What ... ???

MRK
08-11-2013, 10:30 PM
I originally glanced at this thread title and read "Obama says phone buying abuse will continue"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nZUIDQ6TYU

I tried to read the article and couldn't even make it past the second sentence without giving up.


And while he offered "appropriate reforms," he blamed government leaks for creating distrust of his domestic spying program.

Yes... the distrust is caused by the messenger. The one who made the message is the victim here. Shut up and have another free Obamaphone to sell for some dope and go back to sleep.

puppetmaster
08-11-2013, 10:33 PM
Obama is the biggest fucking liar I have ever known...even bigger than bush.

MRK
08-11-2013, 10:41 PM
. .

eduardo89
08-11-2013, 10:48 PM
And eduardo89 says "fuck you Obama" and will continue to think that.

TheTexan
08-11-2013, 11:25 PM
Because the program remains classified, however, it's impossible for Americans to conduct that analysis beyond the assurances his administration has given.
"Understandably, people would be concerned," the president said. "I would be, too, if I weren't inside the government."

I feel a lot better now. For a while there I thought this might be abused, but apparently I was wrong. If Obama says it's fine, it's probably fine.

Glad that was taken care of. Back to Honey Boo Boo~~ That show cracks me up lol

TheTexan
08-11-2013, 11:25 PM
And eduardo89 says "fuck you Obama" and will continue to think that.

Credible threat to rape the President. Reported.

Occam's Banana
08-12-2013, 12:04 AM
Obama is the biggest fucking liar I have ever known...even bigger than bush.

And eduardo89 says "fuck you Obama" and will continue to think that.

Clearly, "we're going to have some problems here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibc6QSV5ftw)."

DamianTV
08-12-2013, 01:14 AM
I'll quote this one again:

http://rense.com/general96/nsas.html

...

It does so lawlessly. Former Senator Frank Church's warning went unheeded.

He said NSA's "capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such (is) the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter."

"There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back, because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology."

"I don't want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision, so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return."

...

muh_roads
08-12-2013, 02:26 AM
Can you all please do something about the people you know who voted for Obama?

Believe me, I've tried. I can't get my mom to retire her Democrat knee-pads. Everything is Reagan's fault with her. Reagan sucked but that was almost 4 decades ago.

Warlord
08-12-2013, 04:44 AM
I'm shocked

AngryCanadian
08-12-2013, 05:01 AM
I'm shocked

I wonder if Obama is trying Truth or Dare with Glenn Greenwald since Obama claimed phone spying have not being abused is he trying to threaten Glenn Greenwald by releasing more files?

Weston White
08-12-2013, 05:11 AM
Gee whiz, I have lost track does this mean we again entering into the “reconciliation” or “calming” phase to our endless cycle of abuse?


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presence
08-12-2013, 07:01 AM
OP reformatted, thanks again for front page!