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fearthereaperx
08-10-2013, 02:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIox2YJ89iM

TruckinMike
08-10-2013, 08:37 AM
Maahh Daamon!!!

Slutter McGee
08-10-2013, 08:48 AM
Machete was incredible so I am just going to assume Alex Jones is full of shit on this one.

Slutter McGeee

FrankRep
08-10-2013, 08:58 AM
http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories2012/01aDecember/elysium_poster.001.jpg (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/movies/item/16259-elysium-a-skippable-dose-of-dystopian-nonsense)



Elysium is a campy, dystopian film by writer/director Neill Blomkamp (District 9), starring Academy Award winners Matt Damon and Jodie Foster.


Elysium: A Skippable Dose of Dystopian Nonsense (http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/movies/item/16259-elysium-a-skippable-dose-of-dystopian-nonsense)


Thomas R. Eddlem | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
10 August 2013


Elysium is a campy, dystopian film by writer/director Neill Blomkamp (District 9), starring Academy Award winners Matt Damon and Jodie Foster. The film is marketed as an action-genre blockbuster, but moderately impressive special effects don't save it. Neither do the obviously talented acting staff, who are not given a script which allows them to ply their trade convincingly.

The script is littered with wooden characters that are more comic book stereotypes than story-telling. Only Damon's character is developed enough to the point where his last name got mentioned, or at least that's how it seemed. I didn't stick around for the credits, but Damon's character seems to be the only one that merited a last name.

Part of the problem is the over-the-top leftist worldview the film presents. “Elysium doesn’t have a message,” Blomkamp claimed (http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/07/blomkamp-elysium/2/) in a Wired magazine interview. But how is the viewer to take such an opinion seriously?

The film is set in the year 2154. The rich have left Earth for Elysium, a moon-sized, wheel-shaped satellite orbiting the earth. On Elysium, there is perfect health and luxury, but the rich have kept the poor out. The viewer is not told why that is, beyond a captioned one-line explanation at the beginning of the movie. “In the late 21st century the Earth was diseased, polluted and overpopulated.” And thus, the rich fled the Earth. Nothing political about that, right?

All that the viewer needs to know is that the rich on Elysium are indifferent to the plight of earthlings at best, and deliberately malicious at worst. Why? Well, “why” doesn't matter to the story. Damon's mad Max is forced to choose between the only two career options left to rubble-dwelling Los Angelinos in his century: grand-theft auto or working in the city's one factory, which makes police robots called “droids.” These are the same bully-bots that break Damon's arm in an example of thuggery straight out of the worst excesses of the Jim Crow South. “The rich” on Elysium also somehow hold down the raggedy-clad and dirty-faced Angelinos to early 21st century medicine technology, or perhaps even lower than that, since nearly everyone who isn't a gun-toting criminal is a cripple or has contracted cancer.

The plot? Damon just has to get to Elysium in five days, or he will die of radiation poisoning after he is exposed in an industrial accident at the robot factory where he works. The bosses at the company have no concern for Damon, and apparently no safety standards for radiation exposure. Meanwhile, the rich — represented by Security Minister Jodie Foster — plot power grabs among the elite, promising 200-year government contracts to arms dealers in exchange for their support.

Lest that political message be too subtle for his audience, Blomkamp's poor people who fly up to Elysium are labeled “illegals,” hinting at the U.S. immigration debate today. Indeed, just about everyone in Neill Blomkamp's dystopian Los Angeles is English/Spanish bilingual. Elysium is also bilingual, though its residents instead seamlessly float between English and French quips to distinguish themselves from les miserables on Earth.

Wired explains (http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/07/blomkamp-elysium/2/) that when Blomkamp says Elysium is not a “message” movie, he still intends to get his message out without a sermon:



Blomkamp insists Elysium isn’t some sort of filmic Paul Krugman op-ed piece. It’s important for him that his movies grapple with things that matter, in this case economic disparity, immigration, health care, corporate greed. But he disdains prescription-happy “message” movies—that’s what documentaries are for, he says—and intends Elysium to be first and foremost a mass-appeal, summer popcorn flick. Allegory, satire, and dark humor interest him; providing pat answers to society’s woes does not.


Elysium isn't politically preachy only in the sense that there's no sermon, like Dennis Quaid in Day After Tomorrow or Bill Pullman in Independence Day. In every other aspect, it's a plot straight from the dimmest and most paranoid minds among applicants for producer jobs at MSNBC.

Some might argue that I'm being too harsh on Blomkamp for his propaganda. It's science fiction, one might argue, and moviegoers who take the sci-fi part of the plot too seriously are bound to be disappointed. Indeed, what's the point in Star Trek without the transporter (how does it work again?) or the light sabre in Star Wars (how can it absorb laser strikes?). In science fiction, it's best to just accept the science and move on to the characters. And as a lover of the sci-fi genre, I know there's something to that kind of thinking. But there are no characters to move on to.

And Blomkamp doesn't even make the storyline match up with itself — repeatedly. There are a number of holes in the plot, including multiple debilitating injuries Damon's character incurs — from which he mysteriously bounces back apparently unscathed. Then there are the superhuman robots called “droids” which appear early in the movie to bully Damon's character Max, and keep the huddled masses on Earth in order. But as soon as the action starts, Jodie Foster relies instead upon a scabby coterie of mercenaries led by a lunatic with a South African accent to track Damon down.

A moviegoer can suspend his disbelief only so many times before he loses interest. I have a high tolerance for those kinds of plot pitfalls, and nearly reached the point of losing interest — but not quite. This isn't a must-see movie, and it isn't even a DVD/Blu-Ray rental. But for sci-fi lovers, it might be okay when it reaches free television on a night with nothing else to do.

Antischism
08-10-2013, 09:13 AM
Oh hey, a fictional movie/plot doesn't conform to my worldview! RACIST! Is it like the people who were BAWW'ing over Django Unchained?

HOLLYWOOD
08-10-2013, 09:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnPWJOJYVKc&feature=youtube_gdata

AuH20
08-10-2013, 09:42 AM
The elites already have their own terrestrial version of Elysium. It's called gated communities and high rises. They create the strife and ethnic based conflict with their ridiculous policies yet they literally live above the fray.

http://www.opinion-maker.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Indian-rich-and-poor-just-accross-the-wall.jpg

Brian4Liberty
08-10-2013, 09:57 AM
The film is set in the year 2154. The rich have left Earth for Elysium, a moon-sized, wheel-shaped satellite orbiting the earth. On Elysium, there is perfect health and luxury, but the rich have kept the poor out. The viewer is not told why that is, beyond a captioned one-line explanation at the beginning of the movie. “In the late 21st century the Earth was diseased, polluted and overpopulated.” And thus, the rich fled the Earth. Nothing political about that, right?

An analogy for Galt's Gulch? Galt's Gulch in space?

willwash
08-10-2013, 10:02 AM
An analogy for Galt's Gulch? Galt's Gulch in space?

No, galts gulch was portrayed as a positive place where the prosperity was based on the hard work and merit of the inhabitants. Haven't seen Elysium but it seems as thought the prosperity there is portrayed as the product of the economic exploitation of the peons on earth.

willwash
08-10-2013, 10:03 AM
Auh2o where is that pic? I've seen it before but there was no caption

AuH20
08-10-2013, 10:05 AM
Auh2o where is that pic? I've seen it before but there was no caption

India. But it's slowly coming to America.

Anti Federalist
08-10-2013, 10:21 AM
India. But it's slowly coming to America.

Been here for a while actually.

Cross the bridge between Palm Beach and Riviera Beach in Florida, for example.

willwash
08-10-2013, 10:24 AM
India. But it's slowly coming to America.

Ahh yes. I think I saw it in one of the zeitgeist movies

AuH20
08-10-2013, 10:27 AM
Does anyone think someone like Chuck Schumer or Marco Rubio has to worry about their family being run over by a drunk driver of illegal origin with a rap sheet as long as my arm? Nope. They don't hang out in the mundane areas or Main Street USA. These people are so despicable because they advocate for very destructive policies that they themselves are insulated from. Just look what happened with the Obamacare congressional exemption. The oligarchy must go if this country is going to remain intact.

RonPaulMall
08-10-2013, 11:52 AM
Been here for a while actually.

Cross the bridge between Palm Beach and Riviera Beach in Florida, for example.

It is also the situation in much of South Africa, which is a bit more to the point in terms of understanding the message of the film. The media in America didn't understand District 9, so it is possible they are misreading this film too. Blomkamp and his family were forced to flee South Africa when he was in his teens. Why? The white elites made a deal with the black majority that sold out the white middle class. The elites built up their own personal Elysium's all around the country while those with lesser means were relegated to the hell that is post Apartheid South Africa. Blomkamp's family had enough money that they could escape the crime and violence for Canada, but what if a stable middle class country overseas didn't exist? Then the only choice would by Elysium or Third World squalor, and as his family didn't have the money to join the SA elite, he'd be in the same position Matt Damon is in the film. Blomkamp's films are not a "celebration" of illegal immigration and diversity- they are a warning. The inhabitants of Elysium represent the transnational elites that are trying to turn the entire world (including America) in to Rio or Johannesburg.

BlackTerrel
08-10-2013, 01:34 PM
It will probably start a race war like that huge one we had after Machete came out.

BlackTerrel
08-10-2013, 01:35 PM
It is also the situation in much of South Africa, which is a bit more to the point in terms of understanding the message of the film. The media in America didn't understand District 9, so it is possible they are misreading this film too. Blomkamp and his family were forced to flee South Africa when he was in his teens. Why? The white elites made a deal with the black majority that sold out the white middle class. The elites built up their own personal Elysium's all around the country while those with lesser means were relegated to the hell that is post Apartheid South Africa. Blomkamp's family had enough money that they could escape the crime and violence for Canada, but what if a stable middle class country overseas didn't exist? Then the only choice would by Elysium or Third World squalor, and as his family didn't have the money to join the SA elite, he'd be in the same position Matt Damon is in the film. Blomkamp's films are not a "celebration" of illegal immigration and diversity- they are a warning. The inhabitants of Elysium represent the transnational elites that are trying to turn the entire world (including America) in to Rio or Johannesburg.

Yeah if you looked at it from that world view :rolleyes:

fearthereaperx
08-11-2013, 01:43 AM
Yeah if you looked at it from that world view :rolleyes:

I just saw this and it's definitely not one of the most racist films in history lol.

It's funny because this is a movie with the backdrop setting of elites--primarily white European Bilderberg types-- with life extension technologies kept all for themselves, trans-humanism technology, and DARPA robots doing their bidding and everyday enforcement while they live in corporate utopian plantations. It's the closest thing to any film out there that matches with what Alex Jones constantly rails and prophesizes about daily on his show. And you can tell he's fully aware of this when he critiques the movie.

As far as the film goes, the socio-political commentary was too preachy and too simplistic. Too many shallow plot devices to conveniently move the movie forward. Too short in duration for this type of movie, thus not enough time to explore both worlds and build proper character development.

Overall.. the visuals were stunning; the depiction of the future seemed very realistic; but it lacked heart, had a poor script, and was executed terribly.

eduardo89
08-11-2013, 02:44 AM
The elites already have their own terrestrial version of Elysium. It's called gated communities and high rises. They create the strife and ethnic based conflict with their ridiculous policies yet they literally live above the fray.

Yeah let's demonized all the rich, because none of them have worked hard...

The Free Hornet
08-11-2013, 03:04 AM
India. But it's slowly coming to America.

Interesting....


Continental drift is pushing Europe and North America apart, and Asia and the Indian subcontinent together.

http://education.nationalgeographic.com/education/encyclopedia/continental-drift/?ar_a=1

BlackTerrel
08-11-2013, 03:16 PM
I just saw this and it's definitely not one of the most racist films in history lol.

It's funny because this is a movie with the backdrop setting of elites--primarily white European Bilderberg types-- with life extension technologies kept all for themselves, trans-humanism technology, and DARPA robots doing their bidding and everyday enforcement while they live in corporate utopian plantations. It's the closest thing to any film out there that matches with what Alex Jones constantly rails and prophesizes about daily on his show. And you can tell he's fully aware of this when he critiques the movie.

As far as the film goes, the socio-political commentary was too preachy and too simplistic. Too many shallow plot devices to conveniently move the movie forward. Too short in duration for this type of movie, thus not enough time to explore both worlds and build proper character development.

Overall.. the visuals were stunning; the depiction of the future seemed very realistic; but it lacked heart, had a poor script, and was executed terribly.

When are you signing up for your race war?

heavenlyboy34
08-11-2013, 03:29 PM
Does anyone think someone like Chuck Schumer or Marco Rubio has to worry about their family being run over by a drunk driver of illegal origin with a rap sheet as long as my arm? Nope. They don't hang out in the mundane areas or Main Street USA. These people are so despicable because they advocate for very destructive policies that they themselves are insulated from. Just look what happened with the Obamacare congressional exemption. The oligarchy must go if this country is going to remain intact.
Welcome to Constitutionalism.

AuH20
08-11-2013, 03:29 PM
Yeah let's demonized all the rich, because none of them have worked hard...

I'm talking about the .01 percentage. The puppetmasters.

fearthereaperx
08-11-2013, 03:41 PM
When are you signing up for your race war?

What in the world are you talking about?

eduardo89
08-11-2013, 04:15 PM
I'm talking about the .01 percentage. The puppetmasters.

I'd probably fit into that 0.01% here in Mexico. I'm not a "puppet master" (yet).

MelissaWV
08-11-2013, 04:20 PM
Yeah let's demonize all the rich, because none of them have worked hard...

I don't think divisions like those in the photo have a lot to do with the rich working hard. It has much more to do with the politics of the area though, to be fair, India has caste issues that go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back. In the US, the areas I've been in where there's a marked difference between what's inside the gated community and what's outside have something in common. Insiders tend to have something to do with the high-up jobs at companies that oil up politicians to get tax breaks and the best deals. Outsiders are living in controlled poverty, often complacently getting benefits... just enough to keep them from revolting. There's very little middle class in those areas, because a middle class would imply people working very hard but also bearing the greatest weight of the taxation and regulation.

Just $.02.

ObiRandKenobi
08-11-2013, 04:56 PM
Machete was incredible

lol yeah

WM_in_MO
08-11-2013, 05:15 PM
When are you signing up for your race war?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHCQA1EJiC0

AuH20
08-12-2013, 10:37 AM
http://www.newswithviews.com/McGuire/paul181.htm


But science fiction socialism is not a pragmatic solution to the painful problem of poverty. Given the present socio-economic trends in America, what has happened in Detroit and other cities in America is going to happen to Los Angeles and spread across the nation, not a century and a half from now, but in a few short years! I remember as if was yesterday Newt Gingrich, the champion of “conservatives,” selling NAFTA, GATT and the WTO to America as our solution to the future. The same super-globalists who were behind Gingrich, NAFTA, and the illusory Third Wave socio-economic theory promoted by Alvin and Heidi Toffler are behind the fairy tale of Elysium. A couple of years ago, Newt Gingrich was speaking at mega-church pastor John Hagee’s church in San Antonio.

I guess John Hagee and his staff did not actually read what New Gingrich was promoting, or confused Plato’s Republic and Karl Marx’s mad theories for the Kingdom of God. The utopian society that non-thinking people everywhere are embracing is a Transhumanist, eugenic and master race society. As Aldous Huxley wrote in his novel Brave New World, it is a scientific dictatorship where people will be bred to be either an elite or Alpha class, or be genetically dumbed down to be part of the slave class. The true meaning of Transhumanism and the Nootropic Revolution all around us is that some people will get access to enhancement and others will deliberately be deprived of enhancement and will be scientifically degraded. We must remember that the scientific revolutions all around us are Darwinian and that mean the fittest survive.

mello
08-12-2013, 10:56 AM
After watching, I just couldn't buy the premise that every wealthy person was an amoral bastard. It literally took moments to heal someone in a healing pod. The idea that there was not one Bill Gates-like person who was using his fortune on healing millions of the poor seems like bullshit. One medical transport carried around 20 pods. Now these pods didn't look they were hooked up to some gigantic reactor for a power source. The pods didn't seem prohibitively expensive since they seemed to be in every Elysium citizen's home. Even if they cost 1 billion dollars each, I couldn't see why the U.S. alone would not have 100 or even 1,000 of them healing the very sick & wounded. It looked like it took approximately 15 seconds to heal someone, even with massive injuries. For example, let's say that you could process 2 people a minute in a healing pod.

1 pod could heal 1,051,200 people in 1 year.
20 pods (1 med ship) could heal 21,024,000 in a year.
I saw 5 med ships launch from Elysium. 100 pods could heal 105,120,000 per year.

100 pods @ 1 billion dollars each would be 100 billion dollars.
We spent 92 billion on the Department of Education last year.


I also think there would be a bunch of droids whose sole purpose would be to clean up garbage & rubble.

Warlord
08-12-2013, 11:58 AM
bump

BlackTerrel
08-12-2013, 07:41 PM
What in the world are you talking about?

It was a joke.

The idea in the OP that this movie was going to cause us to start killing each other.

pathtofreedom
08-13-2013, 10:02 PM
Yeah let's demonized all the rich, because none of them have worked hard...
Calling Bullshit on that one. Maybe when we were more of a Laissez Faire economy people got money through hard work but today most don't. Maybe we have capitalism but it is hardly Laissez Faire at all. Most rich people are rich because regulations are written in their favor, government roads (this props up all sorts of business such as large food chains and big box stores), copyrights, suppression of technologies on the part of government (such as energy technologies), sweat heart government contracts (you'd be surprised how many of these there are for virtually everything the government does), CAFR Investment money, or direct government subsidies etc the list goes on.

LibertyEagle
08-13-2013, 11:15 PM
Calling Bullshit on that one. Maybe when we were more of a Laissez Faire economy people got money through hard work but today most don't. Maybe we have capitalism but it is hardly Laissez Faire at all. Most rich people are rich because regulations are written in their favor, government roads (this props up all sorts of business such as large food chains and big box stores), copyrights, suppression of technologies on the part of government (such as energy technologies), sweat heart government contracts (you'd be surprised how many of these there are for virtually everything the government does), CAFR Investment money, or direct government subsidies etc the list goes on.

You can call bullshit all you want, but he is right. Just because someone is rich does not mean they didn't earn the money honestly. To argue that someone is evil because they are wealthy is to promote class warfare.

CPUd
08-13-2013, 11:30 PM
Machete was incredible so I am just going to assume Alex Jones is full of shit on this one.

Slutter McGeee



http://i.imgur.com/YJfSdQf.jpg

BlackTerrel
08-16-2013, 07:34 PM
Calling Bullshit on that one. Maybe when we were more of a Laissez Faire economy people got money through hard work but today most don't. Maybe we have capitalism but it is hardly Laissez Faire at all. Most rich people are rich because regulations are written in their favor, government roads (this props up all sorts of business such as large food chains and big box stores), copyrights, suppression of technologies on the part of government (such as energy technologies), sweat heart government contracts (you'd be surprised how many of these there are for virtually everything the government does), CAFR Investment money, or direct government subsidies etc the list goes on.


This is what I thought when I was poor. I'm not rich now but I make more than average and do pretty well.

The people I know who are successful usually are a combination of smart and working their asses off - usually more the latter.

KingNothing
08-16-2013, 08:40 PM
If it's as good as District 9, it will be great.

Blomkamp is excellent at what he does.

KingNothing
08-16-2013, 08:42 PM
This is what I thought when I was poor. I'm not rich now but I make more than average and do pretty well.

The people I know who are successful usually are a combination of smart and working their asses off - usually more the latter.

Anyone who works his ass off, is kind to others, and is patient, will make enough money to live comfortably in America. Period. For all of its faults as a nation, America is still a place that rewards hardwork - especially when the industrious worker is the kind of person that others want to be around.

GunnyFreedom
08-16-2013, 09:04 PM
Anyone who works his ass off, is kind to others, and is patient, will make enough money to live comfortably in America. Period. For all of its faults as a nation, America is still a place that rewards hardwork - especially when the industrious worker is the kind of person that others want to be around.

I wish that were true.

fearthereaperx
08-17-2013, 03:12 AM
If it's as good as District 9, it will be great.

Blomkamp is excellent at what he does.

It's not as good as D9. It's a bit disappointing as well.

Lucille
09-04-2013, 10:58 PM
Came across some OT comments at reason (http://reason.com/blog/2013/09/04/send-a-swat-team-to-check-water-quality#comment_3982670) and someone linked to this:

Elysium: Neill Blomkamp Fools the Critics Again
http://takimag.com/article/elysium_neill_blomkamp_fools_the_critics_again_ste ve_sailer/print#axzz2dyrUQA76


The new movie Elysium, another science-fiction fable from young Boer refugee Neill Blomkamp about the horrors of mass immigration and nonwhite overpopulation, isn’t terribly amusing to watch. But at the meta level, the career of Blomkamp, whose mother dragged the family off from Johannesburg to Vancouver after a 17-year-old friend was shot dead by black carjackers, is one of the funnier pranks played on the American culturati’s hive mind in recent decades.

I’ve read over a hundred reviews of Blomkamp’s two movies, and virtually no critic has noticed that he does not share their worldview.

Not at all.

Blomkamp’s 2009 Best Picture-nominated District 9, in which the black residents of his native Johannesburg demand that their black-run government clear out millions of feckless illegal space aliens, was universally praised by American critics as an apartheid allegory. Yet Blomkamp has relentlessly insisted in interviews that it’s really about “the collapse of Zimbabwe and the flood of illegal immigrants into South Africa, and then how you have impoverished black South Africans in conflict with the immigrants.”

Similarly, Elysium is another Malthusian tale about open borders, set in a dystopian 2154. By then, Los Angeles has been completely overrun by Mexicans, who have turned it into an endless, dusty slum that looks remarkably like urban Mexico today. (Blomkamp filmed for four months in Mexico City.)

The auteur explains that he is:

…painting this realistic image of a future Earth…which meant the borders being erased entirely and having this fluid population group that basically moves from Chile all the way up to Canada. It just flows, because it can.…The numbers of people that are Latin are going to overwhelm the numbers of people that aren’t.
[...]
Blomkamp, a gun-loving Afrikaner whose movies are based around his fear that the rapid breeding of Third Worlders threatens to bring down civilization, says Elysium originated in a disastrous visit to Mexico in 2005. While shooting a Nike commercial in lovely San Diego, the Boer crossed the border one evening to see Tijuana, where he was abducted by corrupt Mexican cops who shook him down for $900 in return for not killing him.

Despite the obviousness of Blomkamp’s parable about Mexican immigration’s catastrophic effects, Elysium has been universally interpreted as preaching the need for amnesty, open borders, and Obamacare.
[...]
But Blomkamp insists Elysium isn’t some sort of filmic Paul Krugman op-ed piece.

Right. It’s a lot more a filmic Pat Buchanan op-ed piece.

If Blomkamp’s message is “socialist,” as various conservative sites have complained, it’s in the Afrikaner sense that the old apartheid state offered “Fascism for the blacks, capitalism for the English and Jews, and socialism for the Boers.”
[...]
Blomkamp’s debt to George Miller’s Mad Max movies is even clearer than in District 9: Copley looks like a character from Road Warrior, and his accent is even less comprehensible. As Kruger (a reference to Oom Paul Kruger of Boer War fame), Copley turns in the movie’s best performance, although that may be because his working class Zef dialect is so incomprehensible that you can’t understand Blomkamp’s unwieldy dialogue. (In contrast, Foster, with her clear diction, is being widely criticized.)

Elysium is a pretty good movie, but the Boer’s understanding of Mexicans falls short of the Catholic Gibson’s in movies such as Apocalypto and Get the Gringo.

Blomkamp is the most glaring example since the primes of Gibson and John Milius of the overlooked fact that the creative guys who make big-budget movies aren’t necessarily on the same page politically as the nice liberal dweebs who write about them...

I cut a lot, so click on over.

GunnyFreedom
09-04-2013, 11:11 PM
Pretty sure the whole point of a dystopia is to show things broken. George Orwell wasn't advocating FOR Big Brother, he was advocating AGAINST it. I am a huge dystopia fan. I guess Hollyweird critics just aren't very cultured anymore.

ThePenguinLibertarian
09-08-2013, 04:29 PM
India. But it's slowly coming to America.
Crony Capitalism at its finest. Offer Just a LIIIITLE bit of market freedom.

ThePenguinLibertarian
09-08-2013, 04:31 PM
Calling Bullshit on that one. Maybe when we were more of a Laissez Faire economy people got money through hard work but today most don't. Maybe we have capitalism but it is hardly Laissez Faire at all. Most rich people are rich because regulations are written in their favor, government roads (this props up all sorts of business such as large food chains and big box stores), copyrights, suppression of technologies on the part of government (such as energy technologies), sweat heart government contracts (you'd be surprised how many of these there are for virtually everything the government does), CAFR Investment money, or direct government subsidies etc the list goes on.

Don't forget fake free trade, government monopoly on scientific research and subsidies.