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KEEF
08-05-2013, 10:07 AM
Greenwald: Is U.S. Exaggerating Threat to Embassies to Silence Critics of NSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKO4zT7NGzg&feature=youtu.be&t=16m50s

tod evans
08-05-2013, 10:17 AM
Can't do 20min. right now, care to give a synopsis?

Contumacious
08-05-2013, 10:23 AM
Greenwald: Is U.S. Exaggerating Threat to Embassies to Silence Critics of NSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKO4zT7NGzg&feature=youtu.be&t=16m50s

That is 1000% Correct.

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Antischism
08-05-2013, 10:26 AM
I love hearing this man speak.

tangent4ronpaul
08-05-2013, 10:45 AM
Can't do 20min. right now, care to give a synopsis?

Congress critters either displaying their ignorance or lying through their teeth, Greenwald calling them on where their districts are and where they get campaign contributions.

Saying that what they are doing is not optimized and pretty worthless for catching terrorists, etc.

bit about Snowden and Manning

etc.

-t

Cap
08-05-2013, 10:53 AM
OMG that is a powerful interview. GG as always is so articulate in getting his point across. This is well worth the 20 minutes to watch. He points out so much fail in the gov narrative.

HOLLYWOOD
08-05-2013, 10:57 AM
How many Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese embassies closed? How many India, Pakistani, Norwegian, Danish, Chilean, Venezuelan embassies closed?

How many 'Evil Empire' Russian embassies are closing? The Ruskies were in Afghanistan for a decade...

The embassies that are closing are the 2 main troublemakers around the world...to say the least, US & UK governments.

Care to explain why the threats are supposedly against only those 2 countries Congress? If Washington DC can't or better WON'T answer that question, I'm sure the CIA can explain BLOWBACK in detail.

Zippyjuan
08-05-2013, 12:55 PM
Back when GW Bush was running for re-election they trotted out some sort of "terrorism" alert about every month or two during the campaign. After the election, that dropped to zero. It's possible.

Contumacious
08-05-2013, 12:58 PM
The embassies that are closing are the 2 main troublemakers around the world...to say the least, US & UK governments.

Care to explain why the threats are supposedly against only those 2 countries Congress? If Washington DC can't or better WON'T answer that question, I'm sure the CIA can explain BLOWBACK in detail.

Exactly.

I will worry when the Swiss worry.

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jbauer
08-05-2013, 01:00 PM
Is the US exaggerating? Um....YES By the way Greenwald you better get some security because the helicopters will be coming for you soon. Frankly I'm kinda surprised you're still on this side of the green grass.

Cap
08-05-2013, 01:14 PM
Is the US exaggerating? Um....YES By the way Greenwald you better get some security because the helicopters will be coming for you soon. Frankly I'm kinda surprised you're still on this side of the green grass.Isn't he holed up in South America some place?

kcchiefs6465
08-05-2013, 01:26 PM
Isn't he holed up in South America some place?
He lives in Rio De Janeiro.

jbauer
08-05-2013, 01:31 PM
Isn't he holed up in South America some place?

I know he's not here in the USA, that just makes it even easier to drone his ass.

Contumacious
08-05-2013, 01:36 PM
I know he's not here in the USA, that just makes it even easier to drone his ass.

HUH?

And you want to drone his ass because ........?

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enhanced_deficit
08-05-2013, 01:52 PM
Greenwald: Is U.S. Exaggerating Threat to Embassies to Silence Critics of NSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKO4zT7NGzg&feature=youtu.be&t=16m50s


Obama team using same tricks used by Bush team? Seems so obvious.


Ridge says he was pressured to raise terror alert

In book, ex-Homeland Security chief hints Bush aides wanted to sway vote

Tom Ridge, the former Homeland Security secretary, faced criticism in 2004 from Democrats who alleged that raising the alert level was designed to boost support for the Bush administration in an election year.

WASHINGTON — Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge claims in a new book that he was pressured by other members of President George W. Bush's Cabinet to raise the nation's terror alert level just before the 2004 presidential election.
Ridge says he objected to raising the security level despite the urgings of former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, according to a publicity release from Ridge's publisher. He said the episode convinced him to follow through with his plans to leave the administration; he resigned on Nov. 30, 2004.

Two tapes were released by al-Qaida in the weeks leading up to the election — one by terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and the other by a man calling himself "Azzam the American." Terrorism experts suspected that "Azzam the American" was Adam Gadahn, a 26-year-old Californian whom the FBI had been urgently seeking.

Townsend said the videotapes contained "very graphic" and "threatening" messages.

'Security or politics'?

“There was absolutely no support for that position within our department. None,” he writes. “I wondered, ‘Is this about security or politics?’ Post-election analysis demonstrated a significant increase in the president’s approval rating in the days after the raising of the threat level.”

In 2005, months after he resigned, Ridge said his agency has been the most reluctant to raise the alert level. "There were times when some people were really aggressive about raising it, and we said, 'For that?'" he said during a panel discussion in May 2005. But his book appears to be the first time he publicly attributes some of the pressure to politics.

The Homeland Security Department, which Ridge was the first person to lead, faced criticism in 2004 from Democrats who alleged that raising the alert level was designed to boost support for the Bush administration during an election year.

Ridge, a former Republican congressman and governor of Pennsylvania, was widely named as a potential running mate to John McCain in 2008 before the GOP candidate choice Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32501273/ns/us_news-security/t/ridge-says-he-was-pressured-raise-terror-alert/ (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32501273/ns/us_news-security/t/ridge-says-he-was-pressured-raise-terror-alert/#.Uf_-8HfyvkI)



There has been no proof reported in MSM that he was an insider asset but where is Adam Gadahn,, has Obama team droned him or they is still searching for him in haystack?

Henry Rogue
08-05-2013, 02:41 PM
HUH?

And you want to drone his ass because ........?

.He doesn't. He is saying, living outside of U.S., makes it more likely that he will be droned.

Henry Rogue
08-05-2013, 02:42 PM
Great video KEEF. Thanks for posting.

KEEF
08-05-2013, 02:49 PM
Great video KEEF. Thanks for posting.

No sweat, anytime.

Brian4Liberty
08-05-2013, 02:58 PM
Greenwald: Is U.S. Exaggerating Threat to Embassies to Silence Critics of NSA

Is Chris Matthews a big government tool?

Pericles
08-05-2013, 03:19 PM
The sky is falling!

Theocrat
08-05-2013, 03:38 PM
Glenn Greenwald is an excellent journalist when it comes to exposing government surveillance. Objective journalism never sounded so good...and yet, disturbing.

jkr
08-05-2013, 03:55 PM
Bump

Brian4Liberty
08-05-2013, 04:03 PM
Can't do 20min. right now, care to give a synopsis?

Lies, corruption, violations of the Constitution and rule of law. That kind of stuff.

Zippyjuan
08-05-2013, 04:39 PM
Latest is that they are saying it was some messages interepted between al-Qaida chief Ayman al-Zawahri and his deputy in Yemen.


Al-Qaida chief's message led to embassy closures

WASHINGTON (AP) — An intercepted secret message between al-Qaida chief Ayman al-Zawahri and his deputy in Yemen about plans for a major terror attack was the trigger that set off the current shutdown of many U.S. embassies, two officials told The Associated Press on Monday.

A U.S. intelligence official and a Mideast diplomat said al-Zawahri's message was picked up several weeks ago and appeared to initially target Yemeni interests. The threat was expanded to include American or other Western sites abroad, officials said, indicating the target could be a single embassy, a number of posts or some other site. Lawmakers have said it was a massive plot in the final stages, but they have offered no specifics.

The intelligence official said the message was sent to Nasser al-Wahishi, the head of the terror network's organization, based in Yemen, known as al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula.

Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the sensitive issue publicly.

American spies and intelligence analysts on Monday scoured email, phone calls and radio communications between al-Qaida operatives in Yemen and the organization's senior leaders to determine the timing and targets of the planned attack.

The call from al-Zawahri, who took over for Osama bin Laden after U.S. Navy SEALs killed the al-Qaida leader in May 2011, led the Obama administration to close diplomatic posts from Mauritania on Africa's west coast through the Middle East to Bangladesh, east of India, and as far south as Madagascar.

The U.S. did decide to reopen some posts on Monday, including well-defended embassies in Kabul, Afghanistan, and Baghdad.

Authorities in Yemen, meanwhile, released the names of 25 wanted al-Qaida suspects and said those people had been planning terrorist attacks targeting "foreign offices and organizations and Yemeni installations" in the capital Sanaa and other cities across the country.

The Yemeni government also went on high alert Monday, stepping up security at government facilities and checkpoints.

Officials in the U.S. wouldn't say who intercepted the initial suspect communications — the CIA, the National Security Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency or one of the other intelligence agencies — that kicked off the sweeping pre-emptive closure of U.S. facilities. But an intelligence official said the controversial NSA programs that gather data on American phone calls or track Internet communications with suspected terrorists played no part in detecting the initial tip. That official spoke on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the spying publicly.

Once the plot was detected, NSA analysts could use the programs that leaker Edward Snowden revealed to determine whom the plotters may have contacted around the world. Snowden revealed one program that collected telephone data such as the numbers called and the duration of calls on U.S. telephone networks. Another program searched global Internet usage. Therefore, if a new name was detected in the initial chatter, the name or phone number of that person could be run through the NSA databases to see whom he called or what websites or emails he visited.


More at link.

Might help if I included the link: http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20130805/47f2e6af-1a5d-4c26-ac5e-284577e84bd3

tod evans
08-05-2013, 05:16 PM
Good interview!

Thanks!

enhanced_deficit
08-05-2013, 09:08 PM
Great video.



Latest is that they are saying it was some messages interepted between al-Qaida chief Ayman al-Zawahri and his deputy in Yemen.

More at link.

Might help if I included the link: http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20130805/47f2e6af-1a5d-4c26-ac5e-284577e84bd3

Will the people who "leaked" this top secret information be prosecuted or not? Or leaking national security information collection methods is no longer a bad thing?

J_White
08-05-2013, 11:55 PM
How many Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese embassies closed? How many India, Pakistani, Norwegian, Danish, Chilean, Venezuelan embassies closed?

How many 'Evil Empire' Russian embassies are closing? The Ruskies were in Afghanistan for a decade...

The embassies that are closing are the 2 main troublemakers around the world...to say the least, US & UK governments.

Care to explain why the threats are supposedly against only those 2 countries Congress? If Washington DC can't or better WON'T answer that question, I'm sure the CIA can explain BLOWBACK in detail.

well said.

and i am in awe of Glenn ! how articulate and clear !