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Lucille
08-04-2013, 10:31 AM
I guess the NAU conspiracy "theory" wasn't so far-fetched after all.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/08/welcome-homeland-mexico-and-canada/67874/

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/static/img/upload/2013/08/01/rendered/c820d32b846a69878b4373214a8cd287_623x537.jpg


You may notice, as we did, the odd use of "homeland" in this context. It's a tired critique by now, noting how the adoption of this expression to refer to the United States echoes weird Communist rhetoric from the mid-20th century. Regardless: Isn't "homeland" a weird term?

But you may also be surprised to learn that our homeland now includes both Mexico and Canada, two areas that we understood to be autonomous nations that are not part of the United States. Normally, this would be written off as a design goof, as one of the NSA's (newly adept) graphics guys using a little more light blue than he ought.

This being the NSA, we're not inclined to offer that benefit of the doubt. Is this a way of blending in Canadian and Mexican terror activity disruptions (which, we'll remind you, is different from actual plots interrupted) to give a larger sense of the NSA's success at halting terrorism within our borders?

We don't and can't know, of course, since the information about almost all of these 54 events is classified. Just know that the homeland is safe — be it Tampa, Toronto, or Tijuana — and that it's all thanks to the NSA.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/canada-mexico-united-states-identified-homeland-during-senate-192128693.html


Or, perhaps the term was used in the spirit of greater cooperation as Canada and the U.S. work towards the Canada-U.S. perimeter security pact.

On Wednesday, for example, the Canadian Press reported that the United States wants its police officers to be exempt from Canadian law when taking part in cross-border policing initiatives.

Maybe the term isn't so far fetched?

FrankRep
08-04-2013, 10:43 AM
I guess the NAU conspiracy "theory" wasn't so far-fetched after all.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/08/welcome-homeland-mexico-and-canada/67874/

WikiLeaks actually confirmed that the "North American Union" is a actual plan being worked out between the three governments.



WikiLeaks Exposes North American Integration Plot (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/10646-wikileaks-exposes-north-american-integration-plot)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/) - 02 May 2011 | A U.S. Embassy cable from leaked by WikiLeaks shows that as early as January of 2005, high-ranking officials were discussing how best to sell integration for North America, while getting around national constitutions and even creating a monetary union that could replace national currency.


U.S. & Canada Agree to Common "Perimeter" (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/10626-us-canada-agree-to-common-perimeter)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/) - 11 February 2011 | The move toward a North American Union received another big boost last week as President Barack Obama and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper gathered in Washington D.C. to hammer out a deal on creating a common “perimeter” around the two countries while diminishing the role of the nations’ shared border and developing a biometric system to track North Americans.


North American Union Moves Closer After Trilateral Summit (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/10679-north-american-union-moves-closer-after-trilateral-summit)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/) - 04 April 2012 | President Obama hosted his Mexican and Canadian counterparts for the North American Leaders Summit, announcing more integration across a range of fields.

Lucille
08-04-2013, 10:51 AM
That's right! TY for the reminder.

AngryCanadian
08-04-2013, 11:52 AM
I am outraged at this, i want an explanation from the Senate. Still cant say that i am not surprised.

oyarde
08-04-2013, 01:23 PM
Looks like nobody is laying claim to South America . On the bright side , the new Homeland Southern border ( Guatemala) will be easy to secure :)

Cabal
08-04-2013, 01:25 PM
While I don't doubt there's NAU agendas that have been around for a while, I don't see anything other a color-coded representation of continents in that image. So to arrive at any allegations based on that image seems rather... lulsy. The North American continent has always included Mexico, Canada, and Greenland.

Carson
08-04-2013, 01:44 PM
Conspiracy FACT now.

Like so many.

Carson
08-04-2013, 01:52 PM
Looks like nobody is laying claim to South America . On the bright side , the new Homeland Southern border ( Guatemala) will be easy to secure :)

Maybe they mind their own business.

FrankRep
08-04-2013, 02:02 PM
Looks like nobody is laying claim to South America . On the bright side , the new Homeland Southern border ( Guatemala) will be easy to secure :)

Wikipedia: The Union of South American Nations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_South_American_Nations)


The UNASUR Constitutive Treaty was signed on 23 May 2008, at the Third Summit of Heads of State, held in Brasília, Brazil. According to the Constitutive Treaty, the Union's headquarters will be located in Quito, Ecuador. On 1 December 2010, Uruguay became the ninth state to ratify the UNASUR treaty, thus giving the union full legality. As the Constitutive Treaty entered into force on 11 March 2011, UNASUR became a legal entity during a meeting of Foreign Ministers in Mitad del Mundo, Ecuador, where they had laid the foundation stone for the Secretariat Headquarters. The South American Parliament will be located in Cochabamba, Bolivia, while the headquarters of its bank, the Bank of the South are located in Caracas, Venezuela.

On 4 May 2010, at an extraordinary heads of state summit held in Campana, 75 km (47 mi) north of Buenos Aires, former Argentine President Néstor Kirchner was unanimously elected the first Secretary General of UNASUR for a two-year term. This new office was conceived as a first step towards the establishment of a permanent bureaucratic body for the supranational union, eventually superseding Mercosur and CAN political bodies.


Related Articles:

South American Union Selects Socialist Leaders (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/south-america/item/10517-south-american-union-selects-socialist-leaders)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/) - 21 March 2011 | The nations of South America, with President Obama's firm backing, made their new regional government official as the Union Of South American Nations (UNASUR or UNASUL) treaty, based on the supranational model of the European Union, entered into force with two socialists selected to lead the union.


South American Union Seeks Regional Law Enforcement (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/south-america/item/11266-south-american-union-seeks-regional-law-enforcement)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/) - 07 May 2012 | During a ministerial UNASUR meeting held in Cartagena last week, senior officials representing the 12 member governments demanded the creation of a regional "Council for Public Safety, Justice and Cooperation," to deal with transnational crime.


Resurgent Communism in Latin America (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/south-america/item/10497-resurgent-communism-in-latin-america)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/) - 16 March 2010 | It was generally accepted that it would only be a matter of time before communism fell everywhere, including Latin America; but instead, something else happened south of the border — it morphed and continued its march through the region.

pcosmar
08-04-2013, 02:10 PM
South American Union Selects Socialist Leaders
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And that is different from the NAU how?

FrankRep
08-04-2013, 02:16 PM
And that is different from the NAU how?
They are two different unions: North American Union vs. South American Union. Was that a serious question?

pcosmar
08-04-2013, 02:33 PM
They are two different unions: North American Union vs. South American Union. Was that a serious question?

well,, yeah.

One is northern hemisphere,, the other southern.. I meant besides that..
The selecting socialist leaders part. (it would be a surprise if they didn't) (It would be quite a surprise if we didn't)

Lucille
08-04-2013, 03:47 PM
Related: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?423331-RPI-Why-Won-t-They-Tell-Us-the-Truth-About-NSA-Spying


The Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday heard dramatic testimony from NSA deputy director John C. Inglis. According to the Guardian:


“The NSA has previously claimed that 54 terrorist plots had been disrupted ‘over the lifetime’ of the bulk phone records collection and the separate program collecting the internet habits and communications of people believed to be non-Americans. On Wednesday, Inglis said that at most one plot might have been disrupted by the bulk phone records collection alone.”

From dozens to “at most one”?

Snew
08-04-2013, 07:21 PM
Oceania Homeland, Tis For Thee